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well that was horrible.  i met this girl last weekend at a bar around here (the pitt) and we got to talking and stuff.  we kissed in the parking lot and she went on her way.  31, has a daughter, said she was in a toxic relationship in the past.  anyway we texted and made plans to hang out at this other bar around here (alcove) that i like.  

she’s a bartender and had to work til 1030/11 or so.  anyway she asks me to check things out at alcove beforehand, because she didn’t want to deal with big crowds and noise since she works around it all the time.  so i get into alcove and message her around 10:30 saying ‘yeah it’s actually pretty thick in here’, just waiting and seeing what she wants to do.  i’m waiting in there for about 40 minutes until she messages back around 11:15 saying she’s at this other place (mac’s) with some work friends.  it’s like 15 minutes away and i had no idea what was going on.  i say ‘i thought we were meeting up’ and she’s like… “we can”… “i didn’t drive soooo”.  she has a car, she’s an adult and can presumably make decisions for herself, she just decided to step out with some coworkers and didn’t bother to inform me until about 40 mins after the fact.  i’m pretty ####### salty at this point, so naturally i head over to mac’s anyway. 

i get there, it’s this roughneck bar with a $6 cover charge for a bunch of boomers playing some godawful country music.  it is loud as #### in this thing and i literally can’t even hear myself think.  i find her in there eating pizza with this girl friend of hers.  i sit down and eventually mention that a headsup would have been nice.  i know she doesn’t owe me anything but it just seems like basic human decency.  she looks at her friend like i’m some sort of clown and they just laugh.  

i ask her if she wants to get out of there and head somewhere we can talk.  i guess the idea was to talk & get to know her.  in a place where i could hear the words coming out of her mouth.  and heck, i confess, maybe spend some quality time with her if we hit it off like that.  

she says she didn’t drive out there, so i offer to take her back to her car and she says she doesn’t know me like that and ‘doesn’t want to end up on the news’.  i asked her again and she says the same line.  she’s kind of laughing but i don’t think i’m really in on the joke.  

at this point i’m convinced she’s made up her mind that i’m going to be some sort of punchline the rest of the night.  i lay $5 down on the table, point at the pizza, nodded at her friend and say thanks.  then i walked out.  i drive to a bar close to home and drink a rolling rock by myself.  

i don’t know you all.  i don’t think i’m cut out for this ####.  i know not all girls are like this and to keep trying and whatnot, but why’s it so hard to find something good and reliable.  just something simple.  i got a decent job, i have some character, i try to do right by people.  i try and stay positive but it’s just stupid ####### hard sometimes.  dating this day and age is different.  i don’t envy most guys that have been married for a long time, but at least they don’t gotta put up with this bs.  sometimes i don’t want to live on this planet anymore.  i know i’ll slog through it like i always have.  it’s just so tiresome honestly.  

i’ve got some other things lined up and i’ll probably try & follow up with a girl i seen on wednesday.  but i was looking forward to this.  now i just wonder how i could have been so stupid.  
Don't sweat it. It'll probably happen again, too. It's part of the package if you're going to date.

If it's true that she's fresh out of a bad relationship, she's just trying to feel herself and is all over the place.

Two pieces of advice from someone who has made a ton of dating mistakes:

1. Stop looking so hard for The One - your post bleeds with it. Try to get yourself into a place where you can have fun without that added pressure on yourself. 

2. Unless you're in the bar business, don't date folks from it if you're looking for long-term. The lifestyle & mindset are different. Trust me on this. 

 
 i don’t think i’m cut out for this ####.  i know not all girls are like this and to keep trying and whatnot, but why’s it so hard to find something good and reliable.  just something simple.  i got a decent job, i have some character, i try to do right by people.  i try and stay positive but it’s just stupid ####### hard sometimes.  dating this day and age is different.
Hey ren, some advice from a guy that took himself out of the dating game a long time ago because he didn't want to put up with #### like this. Don't sweat it too much. It was a bad date. This type of thing happens when you just start dating again. She was very casual about it all, and you were into propriety. You'll likely find girls that are into that too, if you give it long enough. It just depends on how much you're willing to sort through. 

####, I had a woman over the other night and we smoked stuff on her dime and then she told me about how she'd been in a toxic relationship, her kids weren't hers anymore and then told me some weird story about running drugs and being held down in a bed and stabbed repeatedly. It was odd. She also believed Michelle Obama was transgender and had formerly been a man. So it could have been weirder for you. But that's for another day. We're doing you right now. 

Take it for what it was, bro: a bad date. 

 
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Hey ren, some advice from a guy that took himself out of the dating game a long time ago because he didn't want to put up with #### like this. Don't sweat it too much. It was a bad date. This type of thing happens when you just start dating again. She was very casual about it all, and you were into propriety. You'll likely find girls that are into that too, if you give it long enough. It just depends on how much you're willing to sort through. 

####, I had a woman over the other night and we smoked stuff on her dime and then she told me about how she'd been in a toxic relationship, her kids weren't hers anymore and then told me some weird story about running drugs and being held down in a bed and stabbed repeatedly. It was odd. She also believed Michelle Obama was transgender and had formerly been a man. So it could have been weirder for you. But that's for another day. We're doing you right now. 

Take it for what it was, bro: a bad date. 
Yikes, rock. I don't know how long your date lasted with her, but I'm sure it would have been shorter if I had been in your place.

 
hours ago, ren hoek said:
 i don’t think i’m cut out for this ####.  i know not all girls are like this and to keep trying and whatnot, but why’s it so hard to find something good and reliable.  just something simple.  i got a decent job, i have some character, i try to do right by people.  i try and stay positive but it’s just stupid ####### hard sometimes.  dating this day and age is different.
Hey man, sorry things didn't go as planned or hoped for.

Couple thoughts from a guy who hasn't dated for 25+ years, so salt boulders etc.

From reading that, having to wait 40 minutes for a reply when you had plans for a specific time sucks. Not cool on her part.

Otherwise, my take is that she wasn't sure about things for a first solo date, so needed backup (especially if coming from a toxic relationship). She should have led with that when you started making plans, if so.

Your reaction to everything...while I get your frustration, won't lend itself to getting to know somebody new. Sounds like you came in hot after the 40 mins, and got hotter from her reaction. She was already uncertain (by bringing a friend) and had that uncertainty confirmed by you coming in hot. To me this speaks to each of you having an unspoken expectation of how things were going to go, and the divergence from those expectations led you to get pissed and her to retreat more to her friend.

You don't know each other at all. imo and ime, putting expectations on strangers generally won't work unless you're completely capable of rolling with the reality being different. Getting frustrated or guessing intent is fruitless and will lead to the kind of night you just had. 

IMo, you either lay out the expectations earlier (expressing disappointment when the "date" turned into hanging out with her friends and saying you were looking forward to getting to know her better one in one) or you roll with where it went without negativity. And regarding the latter, I think it's still possible to say something like above and still remove any negativity and just roll with what happens. I mean hell- she may have been trying to set up a threesome for all you know.

 
Don't sweat it. It'll probably happen again, too. It's part of the package if you're going to date.

If it's true that she's fresh out of a bad relationship, she's just trying to feel herself and is all over the place.

Two pieces of advice from someone who has made a ton of dating mistakes:

1. Stop looking so hard for The One - your post bleeds with it. Try to get yourself into a place where you can have fun without that added pressure on yourself. 

2. Unless you're in the bar business, don't date folks from it if you're looking for long-term. The lifestyle & mindset are different. Trust me on this. 
i think the worst part is i was undefeated in that shirt.  thanks for yours and @rockaction’s sage advice 

 
didn't mean to leave you hanging king, that was really great advice.  i think you and rock are absolutely right about us having different ideas on what it was supposed to be.  really need to learn how to temper my expectations with this stuff 

thanks yall 

 
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just need a break.  probably from all social media.  I just don't get much from this site anymore.  
Fair enough. Just wanted to chime in and say you'll be missed. I don't begrudge it and can understand it, actually. If you do go, good luck and thanks for reaching out at times if I'm correct and I've got the right guy. It meant quite a bit, actually, and was class A in terms of being a person. 

 
just need a break.  probably from all social media.  I just don't get much from this site anymore.  
keep in touch- especially with rover-kid coming to the hood. please don't hesitate to let me know if there's anything we can do to help you guys out with the NYU transition.

 
just need a break.  probably from all social media.  I just don't get much from this site anymore.  
Understood. It’s never been the site - it’s the people. And they seem as good as ever.
 

But totally get the need to unplug at times. All the best to you. And yes, staying out of the endless loop of the Political Forum is never a bad idea. 

 
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Understood. It’s never been the site - it’s the people. And they seem as good as ever.
 

But totally get the need to unplug at times. All the best to you. And yes, staying out of the endless loop of the Political Forum is never a bad idea. 
it's not you, it's me. ;)

 
ok friends- I'm in a career quandry. advices & thoughts please.

tl;dr- I can accept an industry-standard, but still low offer from a good, low-risk established and respected firm with possibilities for growth (personal and professional) or stay consulting with an old colleague/friend who has promises/hopes of a lot of new work coming in who considers me as integral to that- high risk, but possibly more reward.

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I've had a rocky time with work for a long time- some of it because I've made the wrong choice (to leave a place and move elsewhere) and others because of circumstances outside of my control in a turbulent and unforgiving industry (projects die and as a guy who's moved around more than most, I'm usually the last and priciest hired/first laid-off). 

I've wanted to settle in somewhere and help them and me grow together- but the two places I found that seemed perfect in the last 10 years ended prematurely- one closed up shop after my being there 5 years, and the other laid off every recent hire when Covid hit (I had been there less than a year, but had just gotten a positive review). 

Outside of those, I've been doing consulting work to keep afloat. I have a regular client that gives me scraps, but not enough to live on. I bailed from a toxic full-time consulting gig last summer (first time I've ever walked into an office and said "I quit") and right after that, a guy I had worked with/under at both of the "happy" places above- great working relationship professionally and personally- hired me to PM a night club project (while he's still working at the Covid place). I'm a residential guy, so this has all been new, fun and exciting (and daunting).

The nightclub and working with this guy has been great- and he's intimated that there's a lot more coming for him, enough that he's considering bailing the full time gig to start up his own office fully and needs and sees me as an integral part of that. But no contracts have been signed outside of this night club. Work on the Club will keep me going until the end of the summer at least.

I get head-hunted pretty regularly, but have found that my age, sector-specific experience (residential interiors) and salary requirements have kept me from getting hired (based on talks with headhunters); basically, I've topped out as an employee in my earning capacity for the firms that do my kind of work... and that amount isn't enough to live on with a family of 4 in NYC. I make similar amounts consulting, but run everything through my corporation so my take-home ends up better.

Recent head-hunter activity has given me two offers- one, from a very well known and respected firm that mostly does hotel/restaurants but has a select residential client base of celebrities and other richies they'd need me for- perfect situation, really... but an embarrassingly low offer. The second is from another well known and respected spot that does a mix of hotels, multi-family buildings, restaurants and single family residential. 

That spot felt really good- I genuinely enjoyed all the principals I met with.. good vibe from them, and apparently vice-versa. They'd be having me work on single-family residential, but would want to use me across sectors- hotels and multi-family, in particular. That sounds like fun. As a bigger firm (40-50) than the boutique firms (8-15) I usually work with, they allow growth from within and would be hiring me as a senior guy with an eye towards growing into the leadership team.

The starting offer is that ceiling I mentioned, which makes my W2 take-home putting me in a deficit at a starting point (my rent is about 60% of it). Benefits are solid, but I'd still be paying 50% of health insurance (1.5-2k/month +/- for family of 4) which further adds to the deficit- we've been on ACA which hasn't been perfect, but is affordable for us. They apparently use bonuses as a means of supplementing the salary- small summer offer and primary one at the holidays (10-25% annual salary), but the bonus is not guaranteed. But with it, the overall package is roughly the amount that I could live on... but tough to do without it being paid regularly throughout the year.

The wife is adamant about me taking this from a variety of factors- the certainty (low risk), opportunity for growth, the benefits, but also partially needing us to show a certain salary because of the FA we get for school. And that all makes sense, even if the starting salary (negotiated through the headhunter) is low for us. It's basically the kind of place I've been looking for.

According to my consulting colleague- he needs me. Having me as his right hand has been an integral part of his own planning for trying to take on these possible new projects. In talking yesterday, he sees me as a partner in operations and wants to grow this long term, leaving his very cushy (highest pay/benefits in the industry) spot to do so once some of these projects come into contract. He's offered to bump my hourly rate for now, but also expressed that his future plans are currently contingent on my participation... if I leave, I'm screwing him- especially with the current project which is almost entirely in my court. This could be bluster. But he and I know each other and I know he trusts and respects what I do (he got me into the office he's currently in that Covid dumped me), so I accept that as mostly truth. I'd certainly be leaving a giant hole for the current project at the least.

I'm genuinely torn.

My gut is to keep working with my colleague. I like and am comfortable in our relationship- personal and professional- we work very well together and the possibility of being part of growing something new is exciting. But I'm also change-averse... which taints my views about moving (and most things). And the risk to me is substantial- even the current Club project could disappear (crazy, young wealthy tech client who I've seen drop several other consultants on a dime) and there's no guarantee of any of the other projects actually happening. I highly doubt he has anything banked to keep paying me if work disappears. There are no benefits and partnership would bring a list of liabilities along with the potential for growth. I'd also be burning this bridge with him if I left and his work takes off- not something I take lightly. (the wife says I could always drop the other office and go back to him if his work happens and it's not working out at the other office... not something I think is true).

I have to tell the other office ASAP about accepting the offer or not, and work out how/when to leave my colleague, screwing the project and him as minimally as possible (not likely). Or turn down an actual offer (not something I've been seeing a lot of lately) from a well respected firm that ticks almost all of my boxes outside of the starting pay.

 
she's not working. no cushion at all.


With that info I'd be inclined to take this:

The second is from another well known and respected spot that does a mix of hotels, multi-family buildings, restaurants and single family residential. 

That spot felt really good- I genuinely enjoyed all the principals I met with.. good vibe from them, and apparently vice-versa. They'd be having me work on single-family residential, but would want to use me across sectors- hotels and multi-family, in particular. That sounds like fun. As a bigger firm (40-50) than the boutique firms (8-15) I usually work with, they allow growth from within and would be hiring me as a senior guy with an eye towards growing into the leadership team.

The starting offer is that ceiling I mentioned, which makes my W2 take-home putting me in a deficit at a starting point (my rent is about 60% of it). Benefits are solid, but I'd still be paying 50% of health insurance (1.5-2k/month +/- for family of 4) which further adds to the deficit- we've been on ACA which hasn't been perfect, but is affordable for us. They apparently use bonuses as a means of supplementing the salary- small summer offer and primary one at the holidays (10-25% annual salary), but the bonus is not guaranteed. But with it, the overall package is roughly the amount that I could live on... but tough to do without it being paid regularly throughout the year.

The wife is adamant about me taking this from a variety of factors- the certainty (low risk), opportunity for growth, the benefits, but also partially needing us to show a certain salary because of the FA we get for school. And that all makes sense, even if the starting salary (negotiated through the headhunter) is low for us. It's basically the kind of place I've been looking for.


With the bolded the kicker for me. If it's what you've been looking for, stable with room for growth AND with a family to feed - this is probably where I go. 

 
With that info I'd be inclined to take this:

With the bolded the kicker for me. If it's what you've been looking for, stable with room for growth AND with a family to feed - this is probably where I go. 
thanks, gb.

I think part of my struggles with the decision:

- screwing my friend over.

- irrational consistent second-guessing coulda/woulda/shoulda future possibilities.... that it could lead to something better than the other spot.

- irrational fear of change

- kinda-irrational concern that with a firm so big established, I won't be able to bring enough of my voice in to personalize it.

- bottom line- really not making enough to start to feed my family.

 
I don’t envy your situation and know the GMTAM contains folks much wiser then myself to provide sage advice….

One thing I would offer….would it be possible to negotiate a performance review at 6 months with possibility of a salary increase?  That could alleviate some salary concerns. 

 
ok friends- I'm in a career quandry. advices & thoughts please.

tl;dr- I can accept an industry-standard, but still low offer from a good, low-risk established and respected firm with possibilities for growth (personal and professional) or stay consulting with an old colleague/friend who has promises/hopes of a lot of new work coming in who considers me as integral to that- high risk, but possibly more reward.

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I've had a rocky time with work for a long time- some of it because I've made the wrong choice (to leave a place and move elsewhere) and others because of circumstances outside of my control in a turbulent and unforgiving industry (projects die and as a guy who's moved around more than most, I'm usually the last and priciest hired/first laid-off). 

I've wanted to settle in somewhere and help them and me grow together- but the two places I found that seemed perfect in the last 10 years ended prematurely- one closed up shop after my being there 5 years, and the other laid off every recent hire when Covid hit (I had been there less than a year, but had just gotten a positive review). 

Outside of those, I've been doing consulting work to keep afloat. I have a regular client that gives me scraps, but not enough to live on. I bailed from a toxic full-time consulting gig last summer (first time I've ever walked into an office and said "I quit") and right after that, a guy I had worked with/under at both of the "happy" places above- great working relationship professionally and personally- hired me to PM a night club project (while he's still working at the Covid place). I'm a residential guy, so this has all been new, fun and exciting (and daunting).

The nightclub and working with this guy has been great- and he's intimated that there's a lot more coming for him, enough that he's considering bailing the full time gig to start up his own office fully and needs and sees me as an integral part of that. But no contracts have been signed outside of this night club. Work on the Club will keep me going until the end of the summer at least.

I get head-hunted pretty regularly, but have found that my age, sector-specific experience (residential interiors) and salary requirements have kept me from getting hired (based on talks with headhunters); basically, I've topped out as an employee in my earning capacity for the firms that do my kind of work... and that amount isn't enough to live on with a family of 4 in NYC. I make similar amounts consulting, but run everything through my corporation so my take-home ends up better.

Recent head-hunter activity has given me two offers- one, from a very well known and respected firm that mostly does hotel/restaurants but has a select residential client base of celebrities and other richies they'd need me for- perfect situation, really... but an embarrassingly low offer. The second is from another well known and respected spot that does a mix of hotels, multi-family buildings, restaurants and single family residential. 

That spot felt really good- I genuinely enjoyed all the principals I met with.. good vibe from them, and apparently vice-versa. They'd be having me work on single-family residential, but would want to use me across sectors- hotels and multi-family, in particular. That sounds like fun. As a bigger firm (40-50) than the boutique firms (8-15) I usually work with, they allow growth from within and would be hiring me as a senior guy with an eye towards growing into the leadership team.

The starting offer is that ceiling I mentioned, which makes my W2 take-home putting me in a deficit at a starting point (my rent is about 60% of it). Benefits are solid, but I'd still be paying 50% of health insurance (1.5-2k/month +/- for family of 4) which further adds to the deficit- we've been on ACA which hasn't been perfect, but is affordable for us. They apparently use bonuses as a means of supplementing the salary- small summer offer and primary one at the holidays (10-25% annual salary), but the bonus is not guaranteed. But with it, the overall package is roughly the amount that I could live on... but tough to do without it being paid regularly throughout the year.

The wife is adamant about me taking this from a variety of factors- the certainty (low risk), opportunity for growth, the benefits, but also partially needing us to show a certain salary because of the FA we get for school. And that all makes sense, even if the starting salary (negotiated through the headhunter) is low for us. It's basically the kind of place I've been looking for.

According to my consulting colleague- he needs me. Having me as his right hand has been an integral part of his own planning for trying to take on these possible new projects. In talking yesterday, he sees me as a partner in operations and wants to grow this long term, leaving his very cushy (highest pay/benefits in the industry) spot to do so once some of these projects come into contract. He's offered to bump my hourly rate for now, but also expressed that his future plans are currently contingent on my participation... if I leave, I'm screwing him- especially with the current project which is almost entirely in my court. This could be bluster. But he and I know each other and I know he trusts and respects what I do (he got me into the office he's currently in that Covid dumped me), so I accept that as mostly truth. I'd certainly be leaving a giant hole for the current project at the least.

I'm genuinely torn.

My gut is to keep working with my colleague. I like and am comfortable in our relationship- personal and professional- we work very well together and the possibility of being part of growing something new is exciting. But I'm also change-averse... which taints my views about moving (and most things). And the risk to me is substantial- even the current Club project could disappear (crazy, young wealthy tech client who I've seen drop several other consultants on a dime) and there's no guarantee of any of the other projects actually happening. I highly doubt he has anything banked to keep paying me if work disappears. There are no benefits and partnership would bring a list of liabilities along with the potential for growth. I'd also be burning this bridge with him if I left and his work takes off- not something I take lightly. (the wife says I could always drop the other office and go back to him if his work happens and it's not working out at the other office... not something I think is true).

I have to tell the other office ASAP about accepting the offer or not, and work out how/when to leave my colleague, screwing the project and him as minimally as possible (not likely). Or turn down an actual offer (not something I've been seeing a lot of lately) from a well respected firm that ticks almost all of my boxes outside of the starting pay.
Tough choice here GB. Seems like there's a ton of potential in both places, one is corp leadership, the other is business partner. I think your gut is right in that you're betting on yourself. I'd like to see concrete plans from your buddy on his exit plan, because he also needs to bet on himself and either go all in or not, because ultimately you'd be left hanging since he still has his other job. If he can make those commits that it's just not you on the line then it's both of you betting on yourselves and taking on the world.

 
I, of all people over the last 5-6 years, get it.  I'm actually sort of in the middle of doing this again myself (position I took at the end of last year didn't work out), so I feel you.

If memory serves you and I are pretty much contemporaries, as far as age and years of working experience goes. I am also running into similar issues during interview processes now  (e.g. everywhere wants the experience that I bring, but they don't want to pay fair market for it, or if they do it would be for a project that I have very little interest in or dont trust their longevity ).  From a personal perspective over the last two years it has become glaringly obvious that finding a position that would allow me to work on projects or products that I am engaged with or excited about is paramount.  Yes, it cannot be ignored that compensation is an enormous consideration, but if you were making 50% more than  three years ago, but working on stuff that you absolutely hate....how much do you think that would affect everything else (mentally, physically, socially etcetera)? 

With that said, That's probably what I would be focusing on to make a decision if it were me... and in a similar situation I'd probably be more inclined to bet on myself unless the "potential for advancement" at the established place was clearly outlined and codified somehow.   It's easy for a place to throw that out there as a carrot on a stick with little real intention to follow through to get a prospective hire in the door.

That said, I admit it's difficult for me to fully relate, especially to the "primary/only breadwinner with multiple kids in one of the most expensive places to live in the world"  angle, since we don't have kids, so I'll spare you the flippant response of "Dude...you just need to move." :)

Any chance at all of the more stable place raising the salary offer if you told them it was the primary thing causing you to balk?

 
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I, of all people over the last 5-6 years, get it.  I'm actually sort of in the middle of doing this again myself (position I took at the end of last year didn't work out), so I feel you.

If memory serves you and I are pretty much contemporaries, as far as age and years of working experience goes. I am also running into similar issues during interview processes now  (e.g. everywhere wants the experience that I bring, but they don't want to pay fair market for it, or if they do it would be for a project that I have very little interest in or dont trust their longevity ).  From a personal perspective over the last two years it has become glaringly obvious that finding a position that would allow me to work on projects or products that I am engaged with or excited about is paramount.  Yes, it cannot be ignored that compensation is an enormous consideration, but if you were making 50% more than  three years ago, but working on stuff that you absolutely hate....how much do you think that would affect everything else (mentally, physically, socially etcetera)? 

With that said, That's probably what I would be focusing on to make a decision if it were me... and in a similar situation I'd probably be more inclined to bet on myself unless the "potential for advancement" at the established place was clearly outlined and codified somehow.   It's easy for a place to throw that out there as a carrot on a stick with little real intention to follow through to get a prospective hire in the door.

That said, I admit it's difficult for me to fully relate, especially to the "primary/only breadwinner with multiple kids in one of the most expensive places to live in the world"  angle, since we don't have kids, so I'll spare you the flippant response of "Dude...you just need to move." :)

Any chance at all of the more stable place raising the salary offer if you told them it was the primary thing causing you to balk?
I met with a couple of people there who had moved up through the ranks, including a guy who came in a year or two ago and moved up in that time. Was explained it's not related to somebody else leaving and filling their spot.

 
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I was reminded of the thin line between bravery and foolishness when I trusted a fart during my colonoscopy prep.  
 

My friends call me Brave Sir Robin. 
Just before my gall bladder removal, my surgeon told me "from now on, never assume it's a fart". He was correct.

 
Haven't been to the bar in three months, so I thought one of America's premier amateur hours would be a good time to make a cameo. Then a stranger bought me shot of Milagro, and now my neo-Nazi city councilwoman is here talking about getting calls from the Secret Service. Gonna be here a while, now.

 
Unfortunately, there weren't a lot of good nuggets after the call from the feds thing. Her IG is full of her smiling face with various hard rockers whose whereabouts on 1/6 might be of interest. It also got louder. I was home by 10:00.

 
I need to get a colonoscopy.  It's scheduled for April 21st.  This is the first time for me.  I'm really not looking forward to the prep on the day before.  Do you guys recommend I take that day off from work?  I work from home so at least I don't need to be in an office.

 
I need to get a colonoscopy.  It's scheduled for April 21st.  This is the first time for me.  I'm really not looking forward to the prep on the day before.  Do you guys recommend I take that day off from work?  I work from home so at least I don't need to be in an office.
IIRC, the prep usually starts later in the day in terms of the fountains of versailles. I got most of a full day in last time I did this....need to schedule one soon.

 
IIRC, the prep usually starts later in the day in terms of the fountains of versailles. I got most of a full day in last time I did this....need to schedule one soon.
I'm also concerned about being able to concentrate on work while not being able to eat any solid foods the entire day.  It's basically going to be water and some chicken broth all day.  I'm really not looking forward to this.

 
I need to get a colonoscopy.  It's scheduled for April 21st.  This is the first time for me.  I'm really not looking forward to the prep on the day before.  Do you guys recommend I take that day off from work?  I work from home so at least I don't need to be in an office.
Nah, not the day before. The day OF, I wouldn't plan anything. 

I think I had my last one scheduled for 8 a.m. The um, "cleansing" didn't kick into high gear until about 7 or 8 hours before IIRC (maybe 5 or 6 hours after I started dosing). It's honestly not that bad. 

 
Nah, not the day before. The day OF, I wouldn't plan anything. 

I think I had my last one scheduled for 8 a.m. The um, "cleansing" didn't kick into high gear until about 7 or 8 hours before IIRC (maybe 5 or 6 hours after I started dosing). It's honestly not that bad. 
Glad to hear it's not as bad as I'm thinking it's going to be.  I'm definitely taking the day of off.  I already scheduled that.  I'd rather work the day before if I can because it will take my mind off of the cleansing process.

 
Nah, not the day before. The day OF, I wouldn't plan anything. 

I think I had my last one scheduled for 8 a.m. The um, "cleansing" didn't kick into high gear until about 7 or 8 hours before IIRC (maybe 5 or 6 hours after I started dosing). It's honestly not that bad. 
Glad to hear it's not as bad as I'm thinking it's going to be.  I'm definitely taking the day of off.  I already scheduled that.  I'd rather work the day before if I can because it will take my mind off of the cleansing process.
yeah... it's not bad at all. just about handling the fasting and then the purging.

 
I had mine last Friday at 1:30 and started the cleanse at 6:30 Thursday night. 
Outside of some Turkey broth and jello I went from Wednesday night to Friday afternoon without eating.  
As someone who likes to snack constantly I was surprised that I didn’t find it difficult to abstain.  Made me realize how much I eat based on want rather than need.  

 
I'm also concerned about being able to concentrate on work while not being able to eat any solid foods the entire day.  It's basically going to be water and some chicken broth all day.  I'm really not looking forward to this.
It’s not too bad. 

 

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