What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

GM's thread about nothing (34 Viewers)

Until a tiebreaker resolves the tie. Once Team A is deemed the winner of the tiebreaker, it is not longer tied with the other two teams. That\'s why it's called a tiebreaker. The "breaker" is really the important part of "tiebreaker".
Here is a link to the NFL's tie-breaking procedures. The NFL uses the following language in the situation where more than two teams are tied:
If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format
When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
Bentley's league has no such language. You're reading that language into his rules because that's what you are familiar with. There is no two-step process in bentley's league.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Another FF question. We had a three way tie in one division. Our tiebreaker rule is:

"The first tiebreaker for two teams tied for a playoff spot is head-to-head record. If the head-to-head record is tied, or if there are more than two teams in a tie, total points scored will be the next tiebreaker.
The way this is written, you stop here and resolve everything with total points. There really is a 3 way tie and it makes no sense, the way the rules are written, to resolve the 3 way tie one way and then resolve the remaining part of the tie in a different manner.A,B,C.

It sounds like you could have resolved this by considering the "head to head" record of the 3 teams as part of step 1, or part (b) of step 1. It sounds like TeamC had a 3-1 record. TeamA has a 1-1 record that we know of and TeamB is sitting on 2 losses. What was the result of the TeamA/TeamB head to head match-up(s)? Assuming A/B split, the rankings would be:

TeamC 3-1

TeamA 2-2

TeamB 1-3

HTH :thumbup:

 
Another FF question. We had a three way tie in one division. Our tiebreaker rule is:

"The first tiebreaker for two teams tied for a playoff spot is head-to-head record. If the head-to-head record is tied, or if there are more than two teams in a tie, total points scored will be the next tiebreaker.
The way this is written, you stop here and resolve everything with total points.
:hifive:
 
Another FF question. We had a three way tie in one division. Our tiebreaker rule is:

"The first tiebreaker for two teams tied for a playoff spot is head-to-head record. If the head-to-head record is tied, or if there are more than two teams in a tie, total points scored will be the next tiebreaker.
The way this is written, you stop here and resolve everything with total points. There really is a 3 way tie and it makes no sense, the way the rules are written, to resolve the 3 way tie one way and then resolve the remaining part of the tie in a different manner.A,B,C.

It sounds like you could have resolved this by considering the "head to head" record of the 3 teams as part of step 1, or part (b) of step 1. It sounds like TeamC had a 3-1 record. TeamA has a 1-1 record that we know of and TeamB is sitting on 2 losses. What was the result of the TeamA/TeamB head to head match-up(s)? Assuming A/B split, the rankings would be:

TeamC 3-1

TeamA 2-2

TeamB 1-3

HTH :hifive:
This is not a head to head evaluation. This is winning record among games where 3 or more teams have the same record. Totally different.Because the league rules do not have a 'shower, rinse and repeat', the tie is broken by total points because, by the simple language of the rule, "there are more than two teams in a tie"

Since total points is your tiebreaker, it goes to A and B.

 
Pretty sure HJS got a number of timeouts in a short period of time and became disenchanted with the site. Not sure he's coming back.
:lmao: Sure.
:lmao: See ya tomorrow, Homer.
Bob Sacamano quit.
Why?What about Tufnel? Haven't seen him or a while.
They are both out and Homer is on the equivalent of FFA methadone. Sadly, The Cleansing seems to be working.

 
Another FF question. We had a three way tie in one division. Our tiebreaker rule is:

"The first tiebreaker for two teams tied for a playoff spot is head-to-head record. If the head-to-head record is tied, or if there are more than two teams in a tie, total points scored will be the next tiebreaker.
The way this is written, you stop here and resolve everything with total points. There really is a 3 way tie and it makes no sense, the way the rules are written, to resolve the 3 way tie one way and then resolve the remaining part of the tie in a different manner.A,B,C.

It sounds like you could have resolved this by considering the "head to head" record of the 3 teams as part of step 1, or part (b) of step 1. It sounds like TeamC had a 3-1 record. TeamA has a 1-1 record that we know of and TeamB is sitting on 2 losses. What was the result of the TeamA/TeamB head to head match-up(s)? Assuming A/B split, the rankings would be:

TeamC 3-1

TeamA 2-2

TeamB 1-3

HTH :lmao:
This is not a head to head evaluation. This is winning record among games where 3 or more teams have the same record. Totally different.Because the league rules do not have a 'shower, rinse and repeat', the tie is broken by total points because, by the simple language of the rule, "there are more than two teams in a tie"

Since total points is your tiebreaker, it goes to A and B.
The second part of that was just mentioning how we did it. We considered the "head to head" record of the 3 teams involved if there was a 3 way tie. This is the way the NFL does it in the event of a 3 way tie within a division, which is the kind of tie breakers we were breaking in our league anyway. Also, if all 3 teams played each other twice, it would be applicable as well.http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

(I understand there's a 'shower,rinse,repeat' step in the link which doesn't apply to Bentley's situation at all)

 
Last edited by a moderator:
StLB> care package received :lmao:

BF thought it was something business-related and opened it. He has since asked that I get a PO Box for presents from my other boyfriends.
Oh come on. :bag:

On a side note, Mrs. SLB took possession of the family photo's after her Dad died. I was looking through them, since she left them all over my desk, and there is a pic of her in Florida laying out at the age of 21. Good Lord, I forgot just how ridiculous her body was. :lmao:

 
StLB> care package received :lmao:

BF thought it was something business-related and opened it. He has since asked that I get a PO Box for presents from my other boyfriends.
Oh come on. :bag:

On a side note, Mrs. SLB took possession of the family photo's after her Dad died. I was looking through them, since she left them all over my desk, and there is a pic of her in Florida laying out at the age of 21. Good Lord, I forgot just how ridiculous her body was. :lmao:
Scanner down?
 
shuke said:
urbanhack said:
Pretty sure HJS got a number of timeouts in a short period of time and became disenchanted with the site. Not sure he's coming back.
:goodposting:Sure.
:lmao: See ya tomorrow, Homer.
Bob Sacamano quit.
Why?What about Tufnel? Haven't seen him or a while.
some mod,who shall remain nameless, seems to have declared war on tufnel. It's freaking sad.
 
Seriously. I thought Tufnel was universally liked. Did he have sex with LeBron's mom or something? What's the backstory?
I don't believe the site owner looks favorably on PG-13 sex/genitalia jokes.
That may be the source of a single banning. This is a vendetta.
it is unexplainableNigel is the most likable person on the innerwebs
Being likable or unlikeable doesn't seem to factor into the frequency or length of timeouts. I think it used to make a difference during the Shick! days.
 
Seriously. I thought Tufnel was universally liked. Did he have sex with LeBron's mom or something? What's the backstory?
I don't believe the site owner looks favorably on PG-13 sex/genitalia jokes.
That may be the source of a single banning. This is a vendetta.
it is unexplainableNigel is the most likable person on the innerwebs
Being likable or unlikeable doesn't seem to factor into the frequency or length of timeouts. I think it used to make a difference during the Shick! days.
Ok, I'll say it...This place is worse without Shick! Dunno why some people had such a problem with him, he was always fair imho...and he actually had a sense of humor. Of course, I'm a shell of my former self here, but back in the day it used to be good entertainment...not so much (barring this thread) anymore. Rude, Clayton, wolfie, shick, colin...never had any issues with any of them. I had a few posts deleted and have gotten a timeout or two, but I knew going in the timeout was comming...or at least that I probably deserved one.For everyone that wanted Shick gone, is this better...the faceless mod with no reason or rhyme for timeouts? Hell, at least he'd tell you why.
 
Being likable or unlikeable doesn't seem to factor into the frequency or length of timeouts. I think it used to make a difference during the Shick! days.
Ok, I'll say it...This place is worse without Shick! Dunno why some people had such a problem with him, he was always fair imho...and he actually had a sense of humor. Of course, I'm a shell of my former self here, but back in the day it used to be good entertainment...not so much (barring this thread) anymore. Rude, Clayton, wolfie, shick, colin...never had any issues with any of them. I had a few posts deleted and have gotten a timeout or two, but I knew going in the timeout was comming...or at least that I probably deserved one.For everyone that wanted Shick gone, is this better...the faceless mod with no reason or rhyme for timeouts? Hell, at least he'd tell you why.
I thought Shick was a good guy but there were issues back then too. I always thought he was looking over his shoulder to seek Joe's approval and that sometimes resulted in him making bad decisions. In conclusion, I think that having an ombudsman here has really turned things around.
 
Being likable or unlikeable doesn't seem to factor into the frequency or length of timeouts. I think it used to make a difference during the Shick! days.
Ok, I'll say it...This place is worse without Shick! Dunno why some people had such a problem with him, he was always fair imho...and he actually had a sense of humor. Of course, I'm a shell of my former self here, but back in the day it used to be good entertainment...not so much (barring this thread) anymore. Rude, Clayton, wolfie, shick, colin...never had any issues with any of them. I had a few posts deleted and have gotten a timeout or two, but I knew going in the timeout was comming...or at least that I probably deserved one.For everyone that wanted Shick gone, is this better...the faceless mod with no reason or rhyme for timeouts? Hell, at least he'd tell you why.
I thought Shick was a good guy but there were issues back then too. I always thought he was looking over his shoulder to seek Joe's approval and that sometimes resulted in him making bad decisions. In conclusion, I think that having an ombudsman here has really turned things around.
Care to chime in, Pickles?
 
he actually had a sense of humor.
actually, one of his shticks was always that he didn't have a sense of humor.
Shticks aside, he did...and I have the PM's to prove it.
even so, he did not like Tufnel very much.
Ok...and you don't like me very much. No rhyme or reason for that either.I think Tufnel is funny as hell too, but shick didn't ban him in this case.
 
Being likable or unlikeable doesn't seem to factor into the frequency or length of timeouts. I think it used to make a difference during the Shick! days.
Ok, I'll say it...This place is worse without Shick! Dunno why some people had such a problem with him, he was always fair imho...and he actually had a sense of humor. Of course, I'm a shell of my former self here, but back in the day it used to be good entertainment...not so much (barring this thread) anymore. Rude, Clayton, wolfie, shick, colin...never had any issues with any of them. I had a few posts deleted and have gotten a timeout or two, but I knew going in the timeout was comming...or at least that I probably deserved one.For everyone that wanted Shick gone, is this better...the faceless mod with no reason or rhyme for timeouts? Hell, at least he'd tell you why.
I thought Shick was a good guy but there were issues back then too. I always thought he was looking over his shoulder to seek Joe's approval and that sometimes resulted in him making bad decisions. In conclusion, I think that having an ombudsman here has really turned things around.
A salary would help, though.
 
he actually had a sense of humor.
actually, one of his shticks was always that he didn't have a sense of humor.
Shticks aside, he did...and I have the PM's to prove it.
even so, he did not like Tufnel very much.
I just don't understand how anyone can feel this way.Tanner, sure. Truck, absolutely. But everyone loves Tufnel.
:lmao:
 
Question for the ombudsman, and I think this might have been covered before, so forgive me:

Should the owners of the site have someone in a Shick!-type role to police the boards for bad behavior/lack of excellence?

 
Question for the ombudsman, and I think this might have been covered before, so forgive me:Should the owners of the site have someone in a Shick!-type role to police the boards for bad behavior/lack of excellence?
Are you asking if they should or if they do? I believe that Joe himself does a fair amount of triage on this site, and it's always puzzled me how a guy with so much on his plate apparently has time to manicure the forums in this way.
 
a buttmonkey like LHUCKS posts some racist crap about how cool it is the pats are a whiteboy team and he is allowed to continue cluttering this forum with mounds and mounds of crap

nigel says he likes the parts of a girl where a boy puts his parts and gets suspended

justice is lost

 
Question for the ombudsman, and I think this might have been covered before, so forgive me:Should the owners of the site have someone in a Shick!-type role to police the boards for bad behavior/lack of excellence?
Are you asking if they should or if they do? I believe that Joe himself does a fair amount of triage on this site, and it's always puzzled me how a guy with so much on his plate apparently has time to manicure the forums in this way.
MOP and LHUCKS help him out
 
Question for the ombudsman, and I think this might have been covered before, so forgive me:Should the owners of the site have someone in a Shick!-type role to police the boards for bad behavior/lack of excellence?
Are you asking if they should or if they do? I believe that Joe himself does a fair amount of triage on this site, and it's always puzzled me how a guy with so much on his plate apparently has time to manicure the forums in this way.
"Should", it doesn't seem like anyone else has stepped into the "!" role from what I can tell.Agreed. I have one job and one kid and don't sleep much, Joe has two jobs (well, one job and writing Random Shots) and four kids. If it were up to me to moderate this board, it would look like Lord of the Flies in here.
 
Question for the ombudsman, and I think this might have been covered before, so forgive me:Should the owners of the site have someone in a Shick!-type role to police the boards for bad behavior/lack of excellence?
Are you asking if they should or if they do? I believe that Joe himself does a fair amount of triage on this site, and it's always puzzled me how a guy with so much on his plate apparently has time to manicure the forums in this way.
MOP and LHUCKS help him out
People who use the report function more than, say, once every two years should be permabanned.At least that's what I'd do if I ran this place [/bGP]
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top