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'Good said:
'General Malaise said:
I too lost on S. Florida.I'm watching Whitney. Giving it an honest go here.
I already hate this show. Seriously.
I watched one episode and thought it was ok. I also think she is super hot for some reason, though.So what are you guys watching? I feel like there's nothing good on. Falling Skies, Justified, Damages, The Killing all on a break. Waiting for American Horror Story, Walking Dead, and Hell on Wheels to start up.That leaves this crap:The Office - shell of its former selfUp All Night - I thought it was pretty meh. I don't find Maya Rudolph funny at all in this role.Fringe - Still watch to make my wife happy but I find it pretty hokey.Terra Nova - we watched the first hour of the pilot. I don't know if I can take any more than that.And yes, I missed the boat on Breaking Bad.
 
'Homer J Simpson said:
'Guster said:
'Guster said:
Gonna be in the Baltimore area tomorrow with a buddy. He's looking for reco's for strip clubs and weed. Lol. Any one??
Anyone??? Need some help here!!
I don't think we have any Bmore guys here. But if the wire taught me anything, you can get drugs everywhere.
Thx Homer... Funny how things can seem super important when you're smashed out of your mind. Still on the lookout, but my buddy might have a connection there. Lol. In other news, while I can't keep up with this guy $$-wise, I'll gladly drink his booze. Tossed back a $180 bottle of scotch last night and a $300 bottle of wine. At home, so retail price, not restaurant. This is going to be an awesome weekend as long as he keeps buying things.
 
'Guster said:
Gonna be in the Baltimore area tomorrow with a buddy. He's looking for reco's for strip clubs and weed. Lol. Any one??
Riiiiight
:lmao: My gf's friend is getting married and a group of us are road tripping from Akron to Baltimore. The only other guy on the trip is a urologist and makes silly money (at least compared to me). He mentioned that he's never smoked weed and he'd like to change that. As far as the titty bar goes, I've only ever been to one and he was appalled by that, so that part is his mission for the weekend.
 
When my husband Rudnickis a hat, he is about a 93% match of Tony Romo. I'm not really sure how to feel about it.
You aren't complaining, are you? Hell, I'd do Tony Romo and he's my 3rd favorite Dallas QB of all time. Not many of our wives would look like Alex Morgan with a pink hair band, so I should say consider yourself lucky. :thumbup:
Not complaining. Best I can do with a camera phone and on the sly/without him thinking I'm weird for taking his picture to share with FBG. Not the best representation, but perhaps you can get a feel.
Are you giving permission?
 
'Guster said:
Gonna be in the Baltimore area tomorrow with a buddy. He's looking for reco's for strip clubs and weed. Lol. Any one??
Riiiiight
:lmao: My gf's friend is getting married and a group of us are road tripping from Akron to Baltimore. The only other guy on the trip is a urologist and makes silly money (at least compared to me). He mentioned that he's never smoked weed and he'd like to change that. As far as the titty bar goes, I've only ever been to one and he was appalled by that, so that part is his mission for the weekend.
Stop by Youngstown on your way. I can show you the sight.
 
'Guster said:
Gonna be in the Baltimore area tomorrow with a buddy. He's looking for reco's for strip clubs and weed. Lol. Any one??
Riiiiight
:lmao: My gf's friend is getting married and a group of us are road tripping from Akron to Baltimore. The only other guy on the trip is a urologist and makes silly money (at least compared to me). He mentioned that he's never smoked weed and he'd like to change that. As far as the titty bar goes, I've only ever been to one and he was appalled by that, so that part is his mission for the weekend.
Stop by Youngstown on your way. I can show you the sight.
The Ed DeBartolo Sr. Memorial shopping mall?? So lucky, Guster... :kicksrock:
 
'Guster said:
Gonna be in the Baltimore area tomorrow with a buddy. He's looking for reco's for strip clubs and weed. Lol. Any one??
Riiiiight
:lmao: My gf's friend is getting married and a group of us are road tripping from Akron to Baltimore. The only other guy on the trip is a urologist and makes silly money (at least compared to me). He mentioned that he's never smoked weed and he'd like to change that. As far as the titty bar goes, I've only ever been to one and he was appalled by that, so that part is his mission for the weekend.
Stop by Youngstown on your way. I can show you the sight.
The Ed DeBartolo Sr. Memorial shopping mall?? So lucky, Guster... :kicksrock:
There's a BW3 at the mall. Could be worse. :shrug:
 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.

 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.
:goodposting:I'm about 5 episodes into season 3. Started witch season 1 about 2 or 3 weeks ago.I started tivo'ing season 4, but missed the first 6 or so episodes. I hope they do replays or a "marathon" at some point soon. I don't want to have to wait for it to come out on DVD.
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'General Malaise said:
My wife is turning it off. She and I gave it 3 minutes. Horrendous. Laugh track was beyond bad. Show goes another month tops.
the laughing is really distracting but it's from a live audience and not a recording.
Did you watch the show? I call supreme BS on that.
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'General Malaise said:
My wife is turning it off. She and I gave it 3 minutes. Horrendous. Laugh track was beyond bad. Show goes another month tops.
the laughing is really distracting but it's from a live audience and not a recording.
Did you watch the show? I call supreme BS on that.
yes.they announce it in the beginning of the show each week. why do you think they would make it up? would a live audience really sound that different than a recording of an audience laughing?

critical reviews have been awful but the ratings were good so it might last a little while.

found this statement from her regarding the show:

Words from Whitney:

"Shalom. So, folks. Hi. I'm very happy to announce that I'll have a sitcom on NBC this fall based on my stand up. It's a sitcom based on me and what goes on in my head so it's basically about balls and sex and that sort of dumbness. It will be on on Thursdays after the Office. It's very cool and I'm super proud of it."

Whitney will be multi-camera format show shot infront of a live studio audience like the classics Cheers, Roseanne, and Seinfeld.
EDIT: after a little more research, I found this:http://tvgeekarmy.com/post/viewPost/whitney_pilot_new_show_old_feeling/bfcfdb92932db0e9577840bf7b73592e

Whitney is a traditional multi-camera sitcom, which is a departure from the current trend of single-camera comedies. Multi-camera shows, like I Love Lucy, The Cosby Show, Seinfeld, and Friends, are shot in front of an audience and often feature a much higher "joke per minute" ratio than their single-cam brethren. For decades, the multi-cam set-up was the preferred filming method for sitcoms. Really, it's the only way an ensemble cast can perform in front an audience, while also being captured on tape from multiple angles. In the 2000s, multi-cam shows began to fade away (with some notable exceptions, of course) and were replaced by single-cam sitcoms. These new wave sitcoms -- The Office, Arrested Development, Curb Your Enthusiasm, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, 30 Rock, Modern Family, and Community for example -- did not use studio audiences or laugh tracks. The result is a more naturalistic look and the ability to escape from the "set-up, punchline, set-up, punchline" pattern that so many sitcoms in the past have relied upon.

Whitney Cummings basically acknowledges that her decision to use a laugh track and to shoot the show in front of an audience is a controversial one. After the opening credits run, Whitney's voice pops in and says, "Whitney is taped in front of a live studio audience... You heard me!" It's an interesting decision for a first time show creator to break with convention and look to the past for inspiration. And if the show didn't suck so badly, it would be commendable. As it stands, however, the awkwardly laughing studio audience simply serves as a reminder that audience at home is supposed to be laughing, but isn't.
So now I don't know. I had the same exact thought as you that the laughter seemed fake and very distracting. Seems weird to use the live audience AND a laugh track if that's what's happening.
 
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I don't even miss Steve Carrell in the Office. Cast is handling their own very well IMOThat Up All Night show with Will Arnett and Christina Applegate is the best new show of the season
Is it? I hated that clip they hit us over the head with on the weekend. I might be better served just ignoring the ads and jumping right in.The joke where a hot chick puts something black on her tooth and talks is so over done...
 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.
:goodposting:I'm about 5 episodes into season 3. Started witch season 1 about 2 or 3 weeks ago.I started tivo'ing season 4, but missed the first 6 or so episodes. I hope they do replays or a "marathon" at some point soon. I don't want to have to wait for it to come out on DVD.
Torrents down?
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'General Malaise said:
My wife is turning it off. She and I gave it 3 minutes. Horrendous. Laugh track was beyond bad. Show goes another month tops.
the laughing is really distracting but it's from a live audience and not a recording.
Did you watch the show? I call supreme BS on that.
yes.they announce it in the beginning of the show each week. why do you think they would make it up? would a live audience really sound that different than a recording of an audience laughing?

critical reviews have been awful but the ratings were good so it might last a little while.

found this statement from her regarding the show:

Words from Whitney:

"Shalom. So, folks. Hi. I'm very happy to announce that I'll have a sitcom on NBC this fall based on my stand up. It's a sitcom based on me and what goes on in my head so it's basically about balls and sex and that sort of dumbness. It will be on on Thursdays after the Office. It's very cool and I'm super proud of it."

Whitney will be multi-camera format show shot infront of a live studio audience like the classics Cheers, Roseanne, and Seinfeld.
EDIT: after a little more research, I found this:http://tvgeekarmy.com/post/viewPost/whitney_pilot_new_show_old_feeling/bfcfdb92932db0e9577840bf7b73592e

Whitney is a traditional multi-camera sitcom, which is a departure from the current trend of single-camera comedies. Multi-camera shows, like I Love Lucy, The Cosby Show, Seinfeld, and Friends, are shot in front of an audience and often feature a much higher "joke per minute" ratio than their single-cam brethren. For decades, the multi-cam set-up was the preferred filming method for sitcoms. Really, it's the only way an ensemble cast can perform in front an audience, while also being captured on tape from multiple angles. In the 2000s, multi-cam shows began to fade away (with some notable exceptions, of course) and were replaced by single-cam sitcoms. These new wave sitcoms -- The Office, Arrested Development, Curb Your Enthusiasm, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, 30 Rock, Modern Family, and Community for example -- did not use studio audiences or laugh tracks. The result is a more naturalistic look and the ability to escape from the "set-up, punchline, set-up, punchline" pattern that so many sitcoms in the past have relied upon.

Whitney Cummings basically acknowledges that her decision to use a laugh track and to shoot the show in front of an audience is a controversial one. After the opening credits run, Whitney's voice pops in and says, "Whitney is taped in front of a live studio audience... You heard me!" It's an interesting decision for a first time show creator to break with convention and look to the past for inspiration. And if the show didn't suck so badly, it would be commendable. As it stands, however, the awkwardly laughing studio audience simply serves as a reminder that audience at home is supposed to be laughing, but isn't.
So now I don't know. I had the same exact thought as you that the laughter seemed fake and very distracting. Seems weird to use the live audience AND a laugh track if that's what's happening.
I can't believe there wasn't some editing of the laughter post show. They were QUICK with the laughs after every line (seriously, is EVERY line supposed to kill? Not 5% of them were remotely funny) and then VERY quick to go back to silent. I find that incredibly challenging for a live studio audience to achieve. Somebody else want to chime in? I am utterly convinced that was manipulated laughter.

 
'Good said:
'General Malaise said:
I too lost on S. Florida.I'm watching Whitney. Giving it an honest go here.
I already hate this show. Seriously.
I watched one episode and thought it was ok. I also think she is super hot for some reason, though.So what are you guys watching? I feel like there's nothing good on. Falling Skies, Justified, Damages, The Killing all on a break. Waiting for American Horror Story, Walking Dead, and Hell on Wheels to start up.That leaves this crap:The Office - shell of its former selfUp All Night - I thought it was pretty meh. I don't find Maya Rudolph funny at all in this role.Fringe - Still watch to make my wife happy but I find it pretty hokey.Terra Nova - we watched the first hour of the pilot. I don't know if I can take any more than that.And yes, I missed the boat on Breaking Bad.
The only shows I watch consistently are:CurbThe OfficeThe LeagueLife on TopLouie
 
I caught a couple minutes of Whitney and despite having a crush on her I couldn't handle that trainwreck. It's awful. And there's no way in hell anyone can convince me there is no laugh track involved. I'm with GM - the laughter never seemed to start or end naturally.

 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.
:goodposting:I'm about 5 episodes into season 3. Started witch season 1 about 2 or 3 weeks ago.I started tivo'ing season 4, but missed the first 6 or so episodes. I hope they do replays or a "marathon" at some point soon. I don't want to have to wait for it to come out on DVD.
Torrents down?
I guess so. They may be up if there's no replay of the ones I have recorded.
 
'Samuel L Bronkowitz said:
'Keys Myaths said:
My friends are now asking me who safariplanet is. Thanks, Tanner. :thumbup:
My wife asked "Why did that guy call you general malaise?"I totally tanner'd her and said "He played Dan Fielding on Night Court. I guess he thinks I look like him" :confused: :mellow: :whoosh:
:lmao: I have trouble keeping track of who is who so I'm just going to start calling everybody by a randomly chosen FBG username.
 
I don't even miss Steve Carrell in the Office. Cast is handling their own very well IMOThat Up All Night show with Will Arnett and Christina Applegate is the best new show of the season
Is it? I hated that clip they hit us over the head with on the weekend. I might be better served just ignoring the ads and jumping right in.The joke where a hot chick puts something black on her tooth and talks is so over done...
Well, there really aren't that many good new shows this season. I've watched the first 2 and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe it's b/c I've got the newborns so I can relate so much :shrug:
 
Modern Family and The Office are about the only comedies I watch every week.

The Middle is actually not a bad show. My wife loves it.

 
I don't even miss Steve Carrell in the Office. Cast is handling their own very well IMOThat Up All Night show with Will Arnett and Christina Applegate is the best new show of the season
Is it? I hated that clip they hit us over the head with on the weekend. I might be better served just ignoring the ads and jumping right in.The joke where a hot chick puts something black on her tooth and talks is so over done...
Well, there really aren't that many good new shows this season. I've watched the first 2 and I thought they were pretty good. Maybe it's b/c I've got the newborns so I can relate so much :shrug:
I :wub: Christina Applegate so I DVR the show. Will Arnett is not Gob funny in this show but he has had a scene or two in each episode that I found funny.
 
Catching up on a rainy day in Panama.

Sorry for your loss, Mr.Pack.

Congrats to Cal Catfish!

Mr. krista is very excited about the move of GMTANhole to Vegas. Do we have many poker players in this group?

Panama is cool and is making me question my decision to buy property in Nicaragua. Maybe we'll buy a place in all Central American countries and the northern countries of South America, just to be safe.

The Panama Canal is much more worth seeing than I ever would have imagined. It's mesmerizing to me.

Is it just Mr. krista or does every guy spend time on this website?

 
I can't believe there wasn't some editing of the laughter post show. They were QUICK with the laughs after every line (seriously, is EVERY line supposed to kill? Not 5% of them were remotely funny) and then VERY quick to go back to silent. I find that incredibly challenging for a live studio audience to achieve.

Somebody else want to chime in? I am utterly convinced that was manipulated laughter.
I don't work on Whitney, but I've worked on lots of live-action "in front of a live audience" sitcoms, and there's a few things going on. First, at least 80% of the show is probably indeed shot in front of a live audience. Anything with a weird set or one-off location would be taped ahead of time for logistical reasons, but then edited overnight and shown to the live audience while their laughter is recorded.

However, the main problem is that the live audience are just average jerks off the street, most of whom have grown up watching bad laugh track TV, and when they get to Hollywood and sit in one of these audiences, they instantly forget their own natural laugh and laugh like they think they're supposed to. So they end up sounding fake anyway. You have no idea how weird it is, there's usually a stand up comic to "warm up" the crowd and get them in the mood, and they all sound normal, then the action starts and suddenly they're all braying like donkeys.

(Most shows don't go to the expense of hiring "professional laughers" (this job really exists) to seed the audience, and they should. Pros can give a natural laugh on cue, and can also do some funny giggles and laughs that are so unique that people who hear it laugh at them. It does help sometimes to get a pro but they're not cheap.)

Anyway, once the live audience's laughs, which now sound fake because they're imitating the "laugh track" sound they think we want, is recorded, it goes into the post process. At this point different takes have to be edited together, and some fake laughs are used to bridge cuts between the takes. Otherwise we'd only be able to use one take of each entire scene. Then when the editing is done, we do the sound mix, and a "laugh man" comes in to "sweeten" the sound. He's got special "laugh box" with faders on it, so he can push one for the number of people laughing and another for the intensity of the laughter... so he can do one guy laughing a little (both faders down) or a crowd laughing a lot (both faders all the way up). He's there to "punch up" and smooth the natural laughs with a little enhancement so the joke gets exactly the amount and duration of laughter the executive producer (would not be Whitney herself) wants. These "laugh men" will prepare for the sound mix by laying down a laugh after every possible thing in the show that could maybe be considered funny, and will usually leave it up to the producer to ask for a laugh to be taken out. I've occasionally heard a producer ask 'is that the laugh box or the recording?', but since these guys are usually the joke writers, it's rare they take out laughs.

So what you end up with is a live audience acting like a fake audience, supplemented by fake laughter in post.

 
'Samuel L Bronkowitz said:
'Keys Myaths said:
My friends are now asking me who safariplanet is. Thanks, Tanner. :thumbup:
My wife asked "Why did that guy call you general malaise?"I totally tanner'd her and said "He played Dan Fielding on Night Court. I guess he thinks I look like him" :confused: :mellow: :whoosh:
:lmao: I have trouble keeping track of who is who so I'm just going to start calling everybody by a randomly chosen FBG username.
I've been doing that a while, Hoss
 
Modern Family and The Office are about the only comedies I watch every week.The Middle is actually not a bad show. My wife loves it.
Tried it twice because P Heaton makes me hard, but never made it past five minutes. Which I secretly rejoiced because my attraction to Heaton is not unlike Palin's.
 
'-fish- said:
went out of town last weekend and left some bananas out. my house is full of fruit flies now. I'm thinking of moving out.
Congrats
Get a mayonnaise jar and add half a cup of heated apple vinegar. Put a funnel over the opening. Flies fly in for the smell and are too stupid find their way out, then drown in the vinegar.Do this before important out of town guests arrive.

 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.
I don't have one of those Netflix thingies.
is watching on a computer an option? I'd subscribe to netflix streaming for a month or two just for that. especially if you have the time from not watching much else these days.
 
Shuke> Watch Breaking Bad from the beginning. It's available on Netflix Instant. It's totally worth it. Right up there with best shows ever and seems to keep getting better.
I don't have one of those Netflix thingies.
is watching on a computer an option? I'd subscribe to netflix streaming for a month or two just for that. especially if you have the time from not watching much else these days.
InstantStreamingSkeptic
 
I can't believe there wasn't some editing of the laughter post show. They were QUICK with the laughs after every line (seriously, is EVERY line supposed to kill? Not 5% of them were remotely funny) and then VERY quick to go back to silent. I find that incredibly challenging for a live studio audience to achieve.

Somebody else want to chime in? I am utterly convinced that was manipulated laughter.
I don't work on Whitney, but I've worked on lots of live-action "in front of a live audience" sitcoms, and there's a few things going on. First, at least 80% of the show is probably indeed shot in front of a live audience. Anything with a weird set or one-off location would be taped ahead of time for logistical reasons, but then edited overnight and shown to the live audience while their laughter is recorded.

However, the main problem is that the live audience are just average jerks off the street, most of whom have grown up watching bad laugh track TV, and when they get to Hollywood and sit in one of these audiences, they instantly forget their own natural laugh and laugh like they think they're supposed to. So they end up sounding fake anyway. You have no idea how weird it is, there's usually a stand up comic to "warm up" the crowd and get them in the mood, and they all sound normal, then the action starts and suddenly they're all braying like donkeys.

(Most shows don't go to the expense of hiring "professional laughers" (this job really exists) to seed the audience, and they should. Pros can give a natural laugh on cue, and can also do some funny giggles and laughs that are so unique that people who hear it laugh at them. It does help sometimes to get a pro but they're not cheap.)

Anyway, once the live audience's laughs, which now sound fake because they're imitating the "laugh track" sound they think we want, is recorded, it goes into the post process. At this point different takes have to be edited together, and some fake laughs are used to bridge cuts between the takes. Otherwise we'd only be able to use one take of each entire scene. Then when the editing is done, we do the sound mix, and a "laugh man" comes in to "sweeten" the sound. He's got special "laugh box" with faders on it, so he can push one for the number of people laughing and another for the intensity of the laughter... so he can do one guy laughing a little (both faders down) or a crowd laughing a lot (both faders all the way up). He's there to "punch up" and smooth the natural laughs with a little enhancement so the joke gets exactly the amount and duration of laughter the executive producer (would not be Whitney herself) wants. These "laugh men" will prepare for the sound mix by laying down a laugh after every possible thing in the show that could maybe be considered funny, and will usually leave it up to the producer to ask for a laugh to be taken out. I've occasionally heard a producer ask 'is that the laugh box or the recording?', but since these guys are usually the joke writers, it's rare they take out laughs.

So what you end up with is a live audience acting like a fake audience, supplemented by fake laughter in post.
Good stuff here.

 
cooking flies in your oven sounds pretty awful b/c then you have dead bugs in there.

easiest way to kill fruit flies is put some juice or apple cider vinegar in a bowl and put a couple drops of dish soap in it. the smell attracts them but the dish soap makes them stick so they drown themselves basically. can usually catch them all in a day or so.

 

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