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Abraham
Footballguy
Try CL in Austin. That is where people will be looking for tickets.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I don't really know, but what I do remember is that this dude's wife/gf/so/date was/is SUPER hot! 
It's all fuzzy. I'm not sure I can recall too much. I met so many people on Saturday and I can't remember too much other than I woke up with a bunch of business cards, new contacts in my phone, pictures of random women that I was trying to email to them. I also shared a cab with some dude that just got out of jail. That was fun.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I'm still drunk. From Saturday. Holy moses.
Notorious T.R.E.
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'-fish- said:
Bucky is looking for an assistant, fyi.
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Notorious T.R.E.
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My favorite type of Italian art.'heckmanm said:Never heard "ROQUE" - guess I haven't played enough WWF.
cosjobs
Footballguy
.my favorite type of fortMy favorite type of Italian art.'heckmanm said:Never heard "ROQUE" - guess I haven't played enough WWF.
Marvin
Footballguy
The thread isn't as nerdy as one would assume. Although there is a lot of conversation about how things went down in the books so there are plenty of spoilers.'Samuel L Bronkowitz said:We finished Game of Thrones. Great show. Did they nerd up that thread so much I shouldn't go in there?Now we started East Bound and Down. How have I not seen this?
Wow. I wasn't quite sure what your price range would be for ACL weekend but I assumed it was going to be way over my budget.. Your smaller rooms are priced cheaper than most of the remaining hotels in Austin which sure as hell don't include transportation/meals/getting inebriated with Cos/etc. I already made an agreement to rent out a small house downtown from a friend and would feel like a #### for canceling or I would be all over this.'cosjobs said:
I'll definitely forward this CL ad on to anyone I hear may be looking for a place to stay at the last minute.
Marvin
Footballguy
Well played..my favorite type of fortMy favorite type of Italian art.'heckmanm said:Never heard "ROQUE" - guess I haven't played enough WWF.
Marvin
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
heckmanm
Footballguy
'Limp Ditka said:So you think this guy can take a ####, but not a joke?'heckmanm said:Decided to start a WWF game with a friend who happens to be a gay gentleman. My opening board?
U E E R Q O A
Tried "QUORA" - not accepted. OK, I'm not passing up 30 points.
I'm pretty sure he'll be cool with it. Just thought it was funny that the first game I start with him and the word was practically spelled out.
Gadzooks
Footballguy
Top 2 qualities Homer looks for in a future wife
Gadzooks
Footballguy
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Yeah....lets see yesterday I had a couple of bites of Chicago deep dish pizza when Mrs. SLB told me the news. I then decided to top that off with three cigars, half a pack of Marloboro Lights and a gallon of whiskey. Water actually tasted bad this morning. :X
It's all fuzzy. I'm not sure I can recall too much. I met so many people on Saturday and I can't remember too much other than I woke up with a bunch of business cards, new contacts in my phone, pictures of random women that I was trying to email to them. I also shared a cab with some dude that just got out of jail. That was fun.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Hey alright, the shakes! Fantastic!
Marvin
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Parenting dilemma...this might be long.
On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too.
Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
So, obviously the big problem is that Zack told Kellen to lie to his parents about going to Plaid Pantry. After talking to my wife about it, we decided to punish Kellen for a week with no video games on the computer, which is what he loves to do for fun. However, after talking to my ex-wife about it today, she wants to basically keep our sons from ever playing with Zack again. She thinks it is a HUGE red flag that a kid in HS plays with kids who are in 3rd and 4th grade and she does not want them every playing with him again. My wife and I both think that is a little extreme and we are of the mind that boys will be boys and we can't keep them from making mistakes in life. What we can do is address mistakes when they happen and try to work through them. To that end, I have agreed to talk to Zack and his mother about what happened. I'm not so upset that they walk or ride up to Plaid Pantry. As long as I know about it, I'm actually okay with it. But asking a 4th grader to lie to his parents about it is wrong and it needs to be addressed. I just don't think prohibiting them from ever playing together again is wrong. But it is what their mother (my ex wife) wants and so now, we're kind of battling it out a little over email.
Any tips or advise?
On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too.
Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
So, obviously the big problem is that Zack told Kellen to lie to his parents about going to Plaid Pantry. After talking to my wife about it, we decided to punish Kellen for a week with no video games on the computer, which is what he loves to do for fun. However, after talking to my ex-wife about it today, she wants to basically keep our sons from ever playing with Zack again. She thinks it is a HUGE red flag that a kid in HS plays with kids who are in 3rd and 4th grade and she does not want them every playing with him again. My wife and I both think that is a little extreme and we are of the mind that boys will be boys and we can't keep them from making mistakes in life. What we can do is address mistakes when they happen and try to work through them. To that end, I have agreed to talk to Zack and his mother about what happened. I'm not so upset that they walk or ride up to Plaid Pantry. As long as I know about it, I'm actually okay with it. But asking a 4th grader to lie to his parents about it is wrong and it needs to be addressed. I just don't think prohibiting them from ever playing together again is wrong. But it is what their mother (my ex wife) wants and so now, we're kind of battling it out a little over email.
Any tips or advise?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Zack sounds a little creepy.
Marvin
Footballguy
I have to agree with your ex-wife on this...a bit. Zack sounds like a nice kid but there really is something weird about a 14 year old hanging out with 10 year olds. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong going on but it is strange. And if he's being a negative influence on your boy(s) that's another problem. Bottom line is that I'm thankful I don't have an ex-wife.Parenting dilemma...this might be long.On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too. Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
Bogart
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The difference between 9 years old and 14 years old is huge, too big in my opinion. I would be happy if the Plaid Pantry incident was the only thing that happened between the two kids. I would use it as an excuse to make a clean break.Parenting dilemma...this might be long.On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too. Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
Notorious T.R.E.
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#### YES.
pricklypete
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There is something very odd about a 9th grader hanging out and 'playing' with kids so young.I'm not saying he's some sort of pedo or anything, but it is just off.To be honest, I really wouldn't want my young children hanging out with him.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I just don't know how practical it is to keep them from ever playing with him. I mean...if they are outside riding Bikes and Zack shows up, do they have to come inside? There's a boy next door to us who is in 5th grade and they play together all the time. If they are over there and Zack comes over, do my boys need to leave and come home? I'm just not sure how that is supposed to work. But I do understand the concerns and my antennae is up for sure.I have to agree with your ex-wife on this...a bit. Zack sounds like a nice kid but there really is something weird about a 14 year old hanging out with 10 year olds. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong going on but it is strange. And if he's being a negative influence on your boy(s) that's another problem. Bottom line is that I'm thankful I don't have an ex-wife.Parenting dilemma...this might be long.On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too. Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
i dont see a problem. tell ex to eff off.
General Malaise
Footballguy
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
GM, I'm going to wait for Homer's opinion on this before commenting.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I call it "Monday".
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I used to hang our with two kids who were 3 and 4 years older than me. Both were neighbors and pretty good friends until they hit 9th grade or so. By then they couldn't disavow knowing me fast enough. The older one wasn't a huge loss. He was kind of a train wreck. The other kid though was a smart dude and into cool stuff. A really good influence. It kind of made me sad when they basically outgrew me, but it made perfect sense later.
I can't imagine why a kid in high school would bother to seek out time with kids more than five years his junior.
I can't imagine why a kid in high school would bother to seek out time with kids more than five years his junior.
Notorious T.R.E.
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I trust in my gb GM's judgement. You know the kid and his family better than we do.Parenting dilemma...this might be long.On Saturday, I received a text message from my wife saying we had a problem. Our youngest son Cooper got mad at his older brother Kellen and decided to retaliate against him by essentially ratting him out for something he did this summer. Kellen is 9. Across the street lives a boy named Zack, who is now a freshman in high school. I like Zack, but he's kind of an awkward kid. He's not every big for his size and if you didn't know better, you'd assume he was much younger than he truly is. I also like Zack's mom Angie, whom I have known since we moved into this house back in 2001. Zack comes to our house to play with the boys and he invites them to his house too. While I like him, my ex-wife does not and hates the idea of a freshman in high school playing with boys much younger. While it is a bit odd, I don't think it's nearly as strange as she does and I allow them to play. Again, I know his mom well and I've known Zack since he was 2 years old. They ride bikes, throw the football, smash rocks...they do what boys do and so I don't restrict their involvement. In fact, there are other boys in the neighborhood who play with Zack and my boys too. Now, here's what happened. This summer, Zach talked Kellen into riding his scooter with him up to a Plaid Pantry (like a 7-11). It's not THAT far away, but it is on a busy road and I would probably have told Kellen 'no' had he asked me if he could ride his scooter there. However, we didn't get that opportunity because Zach told Kellen NOT to tell his parents. And we probably would have never known about it except that Kellen pissed his brother off and his brother ratted him out. Cooper knew about it because Zach asked him to go to Plaid Pantry too and Cooper said 'no'. So I have one kid who caved to the peer pressure and one kid who did not. Batting .500 here, which given my pedigree with peer pressure is a huge win.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Hey, Michael Jackson liked playing with little kids and there was nothing wrong with him.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Kind of the same here. But it didn't really start until driver's licenses were involved.But our neighborhood was a kid's heaven. 12-15 of us, all got along great, and genuinely liked and looked out for each other.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
How's their butter selection?
General Malaise
Footballguy
He's developmentally a little slower than most kids his age. I think at some point, he'll blow them off too. But I also don't think he has many (or any) friends his age. I've never seen him have a friend over. He likes to throw the football with Cooper and play video games with Kellen. I like him, but there is part of me that thinks it's a little off. I will talk to his mom about it and get her opinion. She's a sharp lady and might have some insight. We've had Zach over several times since we moved in and I do like him. But I do get the concerns as well. He's not a bad kid, but this was a bad situation and he should know better.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Easy joke here but that's sad about not having friends. I'm sure you'll do the right things whatever you decide.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Pretty much the same deal. Tons of kids in our neighborhood. Early on, there is no huge distinction. Only once other friends start weighing in about hanging out with little kids does it become an issue within a group of kids. The other thing is that GM has known this kid Zack for a long time. His judgment is probably going to be all he needs here. As long as you're keeping tabs on your kids, I don't think there will be any problem. Still, it's difficult to imagine why a kid in high school would do any more than tolerate little kids.
Guster
Footballguy
GM > I'd tend to side with you on this one. The big issue here is really Zack telling your kid to lie. Why would he say that? Was Kellen hesitating because he knew he shouldn't and that was how Zack convinced him to join?
It's a tough one for sure. I think cutting off all contact is extreme, unreasonable, uninforcable and likely to cause future issues. We want that which we cannot have. I would just make sure he knows to always tell the truth. GL GB GM
It's a tough one for sure. I think cutting off all contact is extreme, unreasonable, uninforcable and likely to cause future issues. We want that which we cannot have. I would just make sure he knows to always tell the truth. GL GB GM
General Malaise
Footballguy
And as I told my wife on Saturday, when I was Kellen's age, we were riding bikes through alleys looking for Playboys and other 'treasures'. I was doing far more 'bad things' than Kellen. Kellen is a great kid who is rarely in trouble and when he does get in trouble, he takes it hard. I expect that he's going to make lots of mistakes as he gets older and will probably make some terrible decisions. I hate that he caved to the peer pressure, but it's going to happen. I just wasn't expecting this.
YSR
Footballguy
Same situation in my neighborhood growing up. At some point in my childhood, I am sure I played with both older and younger kids. GM's kids are probably pretty smart, and if this kid isn't quite as far along developmentally, they may all get along fine right now. I can see how Flags might have an issue with the age difference now, and how it probably will become kind of a weird situation as time goes on.In my opinion, the bigger issue is the whole 'telling him to lie' thing. Regardless of the age gap, I can imagine that I wouldn't want my kid to hang out with someone who influenced him to do something he (the older kid) probably knew was wrong, and then told him to lie about it afterwards.
Guster
Footballguy
Abraham?
General Malaise
Footballguy
I think that's exactly what transpired. Cooper knew better and he said 'no'. In fact, I remember Cooper coming into the house and asking me if he could go with Zack to Plaid Pantry and I told him no. So when Zack asked, Cooper told him he couldn't do it. Kellen knew better, but caved to the peer pressure. And like I said, giving it some more thought, I'd probably tell them to go ahead and go. When I was Zack's age, I was babysitting kids all the time for extra money. I took kids younger than Kellen on walks to the park, etc. So on that level, I'm okay with them going as long as I know about. But asking a 4th grader to lie to his parents is a huge problem and I know his mother Angie will be furious with him. But I think she needs to know, right? She's a good mom and she knows her son doesn't have many friends, so has been very thankful that my boys play with hers. I don't want to take that away for one mistake, albeit a pretty bad mistake. I think they all deserve a second chance here, but I'm having trouble convincing my ex-wife of this. I even invited her to come along and talk to Angie with me, but she declined.
St. Louis Bob
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