Goodell Issues Ruling? (1 Viewer)

[Klecko HOF]

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/sports/14109617/detail.html

Source: NFL To Fine Belichick, Pats

Coach To Pay $500,000

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

I hope this is wrong. The only way to truly punish this team and the coach is to suspend him (no team contact at all) for a significant amount of games (no less than 4, IMO). That's the way to make them regret this whole thing. That would hurt BB more than anything else.

 

[Angrymutt]

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/sports/14109617/detail.html

Source: NFL To Fine Belichick, Pats

Coach To Pay $500,000

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

if true...very scrappy. Coach should be suspended bottom line.

 

[corpcow]

Forfeiting 2 high draft picks, possibly a 1st and 3rd, is significant.

 

[Ignoramus]

sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.

Yeah, ok. If this is indeed the penalty, it seems about right to me.

 

[Klecko HOF]

It is early, guys, so I wouldn't bank on this yet.

I just thought it newsworthy, so I printed it. This could be it or just a sum of the penalties.

 

[perry147]

Forfeiting 2 high draft picks, possibly a 1st and 3rd, is significant.

BB himself need to be punished also.

 

[Klecko HOF]

For those that do not have access to the link:

BOSTON -- The NFL is planning to punish the New England Patriots and the team's coach, Bill Belichick, after the team got caught taping signals during the Jets game, sources confirmed Thursday.

SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported that a decision will be announced Friday, but sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

A letter will be faxed to Belichick telling him of the NFL's decision, and he will not be required to appear in person at the NFL headquarters in New York City.

The controversy started when a Patriots cameraman was caught videotaping a New York Jets coach's signals during last weekend's season-opening game.

In a news conference Wednesday, Belichick issued a terse written statement before his regular weekly team news conference saying, "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players. Following the league's decision, I will have further comment."

Belichick indicated he may have misinterpreted the National Football League's rules regarding recording games.

"Earlier this week, I spoke with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules. At this point, we have not been notified of the league's ruling," Belichick said.

The Patriots were accused of spying during Sunday's game against the New York Jets by Jets coach Eric Mangini. NFL security officials confiscated a video camera from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the sideline Sunday.

Copyright 2007 by TheBostonChannel.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

 

[j3r3m3y]

For those that do not have access to the link:

BOSTON -- The NFL is planning to punish the New England Patriots and the team's coach, Bill Belichick, after the team got caught taping signals during the Jets game, sources confirmed Thursday.

SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported that a decision will be announced Friday, but sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

A letter will be faxed to Belichick telling him of the NFL's decision, and he will not be required to appear in person at the NFL headquarters in New York City.

The controversy started when a Patriots cameraman was caught videotaping a New York Jets coach's signals during last weekend's season-opening game.

In a news conference Wednesday, Belichick issued a terse written statement before his regular weekly team news conference saying, "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players. Following the league's decision, I will have further comment."

Belichick indicated he may have misinterpreted the National Football League's rules regarding recording games.

"Earlier this week, I spoke with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules. At this point, we have not been notified of the league's ruling," Belichick said.

The Patriots were accused of spying during Sunday's game against the New York Jets by Jets coach Eric Mangini. NFL security officials confiscated a video camera from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the sideline Sunday.

Copyright 2007 by TheBostonChannel.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Classic!

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Fining BB directly is an interesting twist which enables Goodell to maintain the "strong stance" appearance without creating the muss and fuss of suspending a head NFL coach.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

For those that do not have access to the link:BOSTON -- The NFL is planning to punish the New England Patriots and the team's coach, Bill Belichick, after the team got caught taping signals during the Jets game, sources confirmed Thursday.SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported that a decision will be announced Friday, but sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said. A letter will be faxed to Belichick telling him of the NFL's decision, and he will not be required to appear in person at the NFL headquarters in New York City.The controversy started when a Patriots cameraman was caught videotaping a New York Jets coach's signals during last weekend's season-opening game.In a news conference Wednesday, Belichick issued a terse written statement before his regular weekly team news conference saying, "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players. Following the league's decision, I will have further comment."Belichick indicated he may have misinterpreted the National Football League's rules regarding recording games."Earlier this week, I spoke with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules. At this point, we have not been notified of the league's ruling," Belichick said.The Patriots were accused of spying during Sunday's game against the New York Jets by Jets coach Eric Mangini. NFL security officials confiscated a video camera from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the sideline Sunday. Copyright 2007 by TheBostonChannel.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

SportCenter 5????Oh no, the parody from Underdogs, The Ocho is becoming a reality.in no relation to this.....David Boston gets caught cheating...Boston....Boston...hmmmm..any connection??

 

[Ignoramus]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

 

[j3r3m3y]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

 

[Chase Stuart]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

The Pats could do that, but all fines are paid out of post-tax dollars, not pre-tax dollars. So he'd need a raise of close to a million dollars to be whole.

 

[j3r3m3y]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

The Pats could do that, but all fines are paid out of post-tax dollars, not pre-tax dollars. So he'd need a raise of close to a million dollars to be whole.

I bet they at least help him out next year. Maybe not make him whole, but they will take care of him.

 

[Klecko HOF]

For those that do not have access to the link:BOSTON -- The NFL is planning to punish the New England Patriots and the team's coach, Bill Belichick, after the team got caught taping signals during the Jets game, sources confirmed Thursday.SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported that a decision will be announced Friday, but sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said. A letter will be faxed to Belichick telling him of the NFL's decision, and he will not be required to appear in person at the NFL headquarters in New York City.The controversy started when a Patriots cameraman was caught videotaping a New York Jets coach's signals during last weekend's season-opening game.In a news conference Wednesday, Belichick issued a terse written statement before his regular weekly team news conference saying, "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players. Following the league's decision, I will have further comment."Belichick indicated he may have misinterpreted the National Football League's rules regarding recording games."Earlier this week, I spoke with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules. At this point, we have not been notified of the league's ruling," Belichick said.The Patriots were accused of spying during Sunday's game against the New York Jets by Jets coach Eric Mangini. NFL security officials confiscated a video camera from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the sideline Sunday.

Classic!

 

[coolnerd]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

My understanding is that the league approves all contracts. Easy for the league not approve the contract. As I remember when the league issues a fine, the payment comes directly from the fined party out of a paycheck. People forget that the Patriots, while owned by a single person, is not a true independent business and must operated under the dictates of the league. Simply, the Patriots and no other team for that matter, can't wake-up and do it wants. There is a reason teams are referred to as franchises.

 

[PatsFanCT]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

The Pats could do that, but all fines are paid out of post-tax dollars, not pre-tax dollars. So he'd need a raise of close to a million dollars to be whole.

I bet they at least help him out next year. Maybe not make him whole, but they will take care of him.

Why would they help him out? He embarrassed his team, tarnished his image and put their titles in doubt.

 

[j3r3m3y]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

The Pats could do that, but all fines are paid out of post-tax dollars, not pre-tax dollars. So he'd need a raise of close to a million dollars to be whole.

I bet they at least help him out next year. Maybe not make him whole, but they will take care of him.

Why would they help him out? He embarrassed his team, tarnished his image and put their titles in doubt.

He makes them a lot of money, and that is all that matters.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

DeCecco vehemently disagreed, adding that such a ruling is typically made far earlier in the trial process or left to the jury, which was instructed that to find Pask guilty they had to determine that the shelter was a secluded place.

How could they possibly enforce that, couldn't the Pats just renegotiate his contract and by coincidence give him a raise?

Exactly. I don't see him being any better than a WR4 and he'd be lucky to crack the starting lineup barring injury or bye week.

Whoops Wrong paste I meant the part about him having to pay it himself and it couldn't be paid for him.

The Pats could do that, but all fines are paid out of post-tax dollars, not pre-tax dollars. So he'd need a raise of close to a million dollars to be whole.

I bet they at least help him out next year. Maybe not make him whole, but they will take care of him.

Why would they help him out? He embarrassed his team, tarnished his image and put their titles in doubt.

They could help him for a variety of reasons such as, hypothetically, if BB had RK's implicit approval, or depending on the personal relationships involved, or depending on RK's philosophical reaction to the punishment, or ...

 

[CrossEyed]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think that's a HUGE penalty.

Imagine losing 500,000 dollars out of your pocket. And as far as the team goes....losing a 1st and 3rd round pick. That is NOT going to make the owner happy. This to me is way more of a penalty than say a 4 game suspension.

1/2 way thru the year, it would be over and the pats would probably be 5-1 and Belichick would then be coming back, big deal. This has way more of an impact on the team and to him personally.

 

[maxwell1295]

I would fine them and make them FORFEIT the game. That would a real punishment. You get caught cheating like that, you should lose the game....period. I'm not saying that as a Jets fan either. They would have kicked the Jets butts without trying to steal plays. That's not even the point. The point is they got caught cheating during a game. Punish them by taking away that win, rewarding the team that was 'victimized', and sending a message to the entire league all at the same time. Get caught cheating and you lose the game. That'll get everybody's attention....

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that do, it'll be over in a month and it'll be business as usual.

 

[redman]

The only appropriate sanction here is to make Belichick wear big boy clothes the rest of the season.

 

[Sheriff66]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

 

[hellz_fireflies]

For those that do not have access to the link:

BOSTON -- The NFL is planning to punish the New England Patriots and the team's coach, Bill Belichick, after the team got caught taping signals during the Jets game, sources confirmed Thursday.

SportsCenter 5's Mike Lynch reported that a decision will be announced Friday, but sources have said the NFL is going to fine Belichick $500,000. The fine has to be paid by Belichick himself and cannot be paid by the team's owner, Robert Kraft.

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

A letter will be faxed to Belichick telling him of the NFL's decision, and he will not be required to appear in person at the NFL headquarters in New York City.

The controversy started when a Patriots cameraman was caught videotaping a New York Jets coach's signals during last weekend's season-opening game.

In a news conference Wednesday, Belichick issued a terse written statement before his regular weekly team news conference saying, "Although it remains a league matter, I want to apologize to everyone who has been affected, most of all ownership, staff and players. Following the league's decision, I will have further comment."

Belichick indicated he may have misinterpreted the National Football League's rules regarding recording games.

"Earlier this week, I spoke with Commissioner (Roger) Goodell about a videotaping procedure during last Sunday's game and my interpretation of the rules. At this point, we have not been notified of the league's ruling," Belichick said.

The Patriots were accused of spying during Sunday's game against the New York Jets by Jets coach Eric Mangini. NFL security officials confiscated a video camera from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the sideline Sunday.

Copyright 2007 by TheBostonChannel.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Just asking don't know..by posting here isn't that redistributed? Can FBG's get in trouble for this?

 

[CrossEyed]

The only appropriate sanction here is to make Belichick wear big boy clothes the rest of the season.

He should have to wear a suit like Nolan. The guy would be so distracted he wouldn't be able to coach.

 

[CrossEyed]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that do, it'll be over in a month and it'll be business as usual.

I'm saying a suspension on top of the fine and forfeited draft picks, not instead of them.

 

[maxwell1295]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that accomplish? If you suspend the coach for 4 weeks, it would only benefit the Patriots' next 4 opponents (SD, Buffalo, Cincy, and Cleveland).

 

[Sheriff66]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that do, it'll be over in a month and it'll be business as usual.

I'm saying a suspension on top of the fine and forfeited draft picks, not instead of them.

 

[parrot]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

Losing two high draft picks would send a very strong message.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

The $$$ always means something to someone. We just don't experience it because it's not happening to us but when we see the suspensions, we notice they're not on the field so we take more notice.Him paying the 500,000 is big to anyone. And "The Hammer" (Goodell) will certainly notice if there's any big pay increases to Belichick in the near future. Sure, they may not be against the rules but he's no dummy and this guy is young and will be around for awhile. You want to risk playing games with this guy and try to give him the money back in that manner, go ahead. But don't think he's not smart enough to notice and not forget in some type of decision then farther down the road, like I said this guy is going to be here for years to come.

 

[HellToupee]

Can a team lose a 1st round pick under the CBA? Aren't those contracts quarenteed

 

[PatsFanCT]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that accomplish? If you suspend the coach for 4 weeks, it would only benefit the Patriots' next 4 opponents (SD, Buffalo, Cincy, and Cleveland).

Aren't you the one who just said "FORFEIT"? Who does that benefit and who does it hurt?

 

[Sheriff66]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

The $$$ always means something to someone. We just don't experience it because it's not happening to us but when we see the suspensions, we notice they're not on the field so we take more notice.Him paying the 500,000 is big to anyone. And "The Hammer" (Goodell) will certainly notice if there's any big pay increases to Belichick in the near future. Sure, they may not be against the rules but he's no dummy and this guy is young and will be around for awhile. You want to risk playing games with this guy and try to give him the money back in that manner, go ahead. But don't think he's not smart enough to notice and not forget in some type of decision then farther down the road, like I said this guy is going to be here for years to come.

When you make the money he makes, and have the potential to make 3-4 times that after this year, it doesn't mean squat.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that do, it'll be over in a month and it'll be business as usual.

I'm saying a suspension on top of the fine and forfeited draft picks, not instead of them.

Well, as far as I know it's their first offense. I mean, what do you do if they do it again? Send him to the gallows?I think all of what you said is harsh for a first offense. I think the fine is significant, it's a 1/2 million dollars for a first offense. How much more can you really fine them?Losing a 1st round pick and a 3rd is a very big deal. To be honost, I think this penalty is harsher than what I thought it was gonna be. "The Hammer" does not play games.

 

[Sheriff66]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

Losing two high draft picks would send a very strong message.

I think the team and BB should receive serious punishment, all BB would be getting in this deal would be a hit to his wallet, not enough IMO.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If true, not enough. Nothing less than a suspension is appropriate.

What does that do, it'll be over in a month and it'll be business as usual.

I'm saying a suspension on top of the fine and forfeited draft picks, not instead of them.

Well, as far as I know it's their first offense. I mean, what do you do if they do it again? Send him to the gallows?I think all of what you said is harsh for a first offense. I think the fine is significant, it's a 1/2 million dollars for a first offense. How much more can you really fine them?Losing a 1st round pick and a 3rd is a very big deal. To be honost, I think this penalty is harsher than what I thought it was gonna be. "The Hammer" does not play games.

Polygraph.

 

[redman]

Belichick not only has to pay the $500k, he also will have to pay the income tax on that dinero. That's a fairly large hit if you consider it's after-tax income. And that doesn't even get to what the opportunity cost is, and you know that a guy in that tax bracket has a good financial planner getting him a high % return on his money.

This definitely stings, no two ways about it.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think that's a HUGE penalty.Imagine losing 500,000 dollars out of your pocket. And as far as the team goes....losing a 1st and 3rd round pick. That is NOT going to make the owner happy. This to me is way more of a penalty than say a 4 game suspension.1/2 way thru the year, it would be over and the pats would probably be 5-1 and Belichick would then be coming back, big deal. This has way more of an impact on the team and to him personally.

I agree. Having to give up a 1st and 3rd is a lot bigger penalty than a stupid 4 game suspension. Hell, he would probably just sit in his recliner at home on the phone with the coaches and still make all the decisions anyway.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

A straight $$$ punishment means nothing, he can make that up in the next contract, this would truely be a joke if it happens. 8-16 game suspension needs leveled here to send a strong message to the other 31 teams....

The $$$ always means something to someone. We just don't experience it because it's not happening to us but when we see the suspensions, we notice they're not on the field so we take more notice.Him paying the 500,000 is big to anyone. And "The Hammer" (Goodell) will certainly notice if there's any big pay increases to Belichick in the near future. Sure, they may not be against the rules but he's no dummy and this guy is young and will be around for awhile. You want to risk playing games with this guy and try to give him the money back in that manner, go ahead. But don't think he's not smart enough to notice and not forget in some type of decision then farther down the road, like I said this guy is going to be here for years to come.

When you make the money he makes, and have the potential to make 3-4 times that after this year, it doesn't mean squat.

How much does he make in a year? I honostly don't know......does he make 2 million? If he does, that's 1/4 of his yearly salary for doing that.That's like someone who makes 80,000 dollars and they're fined 20,000. I can tell you that would hurt. Yah, the guy isn't going to go without eating dinner at night but losing 1/2 million dollars when you weren't expecting it would hurt.

 

[JohnnyU]

The only appropriate sanction here is to make Belichick wear big boy clothes the rest of the season.

He should have to wear a suit like Nolan. The guy would be so distracted he wouldn't be able to coach.

The Patriots should be forced to have Millen as their GM + Lose Belichick for the entire year + lose 2 #1 draft picks. The hell with the fine.

 

[Phurfur]

Belichick not only has to pay the $500k, he also will have to pay the income tax on that dinero. That's a fairly large hit if you consider it's after-tax income. And that doesn't even get to what the opportunity cost is, and you know that a guy in that tax bracket has a good financial planner getting him a high % return on his money. This definitely stings, no two ways about it.

Don't be too sure that this is not tax deductable, a business expense, or something similar.

 

[j3r3m3y]

The only appropriate sanction here is to make Belichick wear big boy clothes the rest of the season.

He should have to wear a suit like Nolan. The guy would be so distracted he wouldn't be able to coach.

The Patriots should be forced to have Millen as their GM + Lose Belichick for the entire year + lose 2 #1 draft picks. The hell with the fine.

Give them Saban instead.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

The only appropriate sanction here is to make Belichick wear big boy clothes the rest of the season.

Yeah, how's that been working out for Jack Del Rio?

 

[HellToupee]

Can a team lose a 1st rounder??? Can the NFLPA contest the loss?

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Belichick not only has to pay the $500k, he also will have to pay the income tax on that dinero. That's a fairly large hit if you consider it's after-tax income. And that doesn't even get to what the opportunity cost is, and you know that a guy in that tax bracket has a good financial planner getting him a high % return on his money. This definitely stings, no two ways about it.

Don't be too sure that this is not tax deductable, a business expense, or something similar.

Don't think so..it's a penalty for cheating..just like a traffic ticket you broke the rules..and you can't deduct traffic tickets it's your own fault!

 

[Kiddnets]

SI reporting

suspension and picks

One of the disciplinary options that the NFL is considering against Patriots head coach Bill Belichick for New England's illegal videotaping of New York Jets defensive coaches on Sunday includes both the stripping of a first-day 2008 draft pick from the Patriots -- perhaps a first rounder -- and a suspension of either two or three games for Belichick, SI.com has learned.

NFL sources said league commissioner Roger Goodell has not yet decided Belichick's punishment, and that there are still several options, varying in severity, under consideration. Goodell is still expected to announce his decision on Friday, sources said.

One disciplinary option ruled out by Goodell is the forfeiture of the Patriots' 38-14 win over the Jets on Sunday at Giants Stadium, a source said. An NFL-assigned security official stopped Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella during the first half of the game and confiscated the camera he allegedly used to film the signals of the Jets defensive coaches.

According to a source, the league will definitely take a first-day draft pick away from the Patriots, perhaps a first-round selection, the most valuable annual commodity any team owns in terms of replenishing its roster.

In addition, Goodell is seriously considering a multiple-game suspension for Belichick, which would bar him from attending New England's games or practices, and force him to stay way from the Patriots' team complex in Foxboro, Mass., for the duration of the suspension. In addition, Belichick would forfeit any paychecks he was due while the suspension was in effect.

The NFL is said to be trying to balance out the punishment equitably between the Patriots as an organization and Belichick personally. The league's rationale behind not just stripping New England of multiple draft picks and foregoing a suspension is the recognition that Belichick could leave the organization at some point in the near future, and thus not suffer the full consequences of the penalty as much as the franchise and the next Patriots coach would.

By suspending Belichick, the NFL would ensure that he pays a heavy toll as well for the finding that he oversaw the illegal filming of opposing coaches' signals. Any suspension that Belichick would receive would likely not begin immediately, and thus wouldn't jeopardize his presence at the Patriots' game Sunday night against visiting San Diego -- a rematch of New England's AFC divisional round upset of the Chargers in January.

The Patriots next week will be preparing for a Week 3 visit from Buffalo. New England plays at Cincinnati in Week 4, and home against Cleveland in Week 5.

In his first year on the job as commissioner, Goodell has built a reputation for meting out stiff disciplinary measures, and for his oft-stated sensitivity toward anything that challenges the integrity of the game and the league.

The Patriots' history in matters dealing with video-taped subterfuge for purposes of gaining a competitive edge likely will increase the severity of any potential punishment handed down by Goodell. New England last year was reportedly the impetus of a sternly written memo from the league office to all teams, reminding them that it was illegal for any club official to bring a video recording device into the press box, video box, or onto the field for the purposes of taping an opponent's signals or play-calling gestures from the sideline.

In addition, Green Bay officials have said that before a Packers-Patriots game last November at Lambeau Field, they removed Estrella from the sideline after he was seen carrying a video camera and shooting footage of the Packers defensive coaches. The Packers, however, did not confiscate the camera.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

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Source: NFL To Fine Belichick, Pats

Coach To Pay $500,000

In addition to the fine, the Patriots must forfeit two high draft choices. They could be as high as a first- and a third-round draft choice, sources said.

if true...very scrappy. Coach should be suspended bottom line.

No kidding...