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Green Bay Packers @ Chicago Bears...it's that week again. (1 Viewer)

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sho nuff said:
Dr. Awesome said:
Bears win in an upset.
Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.
2 weeks in a row Monday Night home team underdog has covered (KC & S.D. then S.F. & N.O) with K.C. winning the game outright. Some may argue the Niners should've beaten the SaintsIf Packers play their game, Bears will need to play perfect again to win. Just don't see the Bears continuing to play perfect football.Close game. Packers 27 Bears 24.
 
packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.
:pickle:
Which part do you find funny?
Both. With Bulaga in at LT, our OL is as solid as it's been in years. As far as the 2nd part, Rodgers has way more weapons to work with than Cutler does. With the Bears OL, Cutler will be the one running for his life imo..
Well that's certainly a more helpful response than :lmao:
 
Looking like a revenge game for the Bears. Battle of the QBs and defenses. I am eating some early crow here as I have ripped the team in August for the OL talent but the coaching staff is making the adjustments. These are the games that are decided by the main play makers in the defensive and offensive units.

 
Looking like a revenge game for the Bears. Battle of the QBs and defenses. I am eating some early crow here as I have ripped the team in August for the OL talent but the coaching staff is making the adjustments. These are the games that are decided by the main play makers in the defensive and offensive units.
Revenge for what?
 
packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.
:thumbup:
Which part do you find funny?
Both. With Bulaga in at LT, our OL is as solid as it's been in years. As far as the 2nd part, Rodgers has way more weapons to work with than Cutler does. With the Bears OL, Cutler will be the one running for his life imo..
ok, just a couple points..1) best - 14 for 202) jones - 7 for 73) barber - 11 for 31rodgers - 4 td, 2 int, 94 ratingcutler - 5 td, 1 int, 121 rating
 
This is the game Cutler can prove to me that last year is a world away. I don't believe it is yet. I am just glad I have a reason to believe this game will mean something in the end aside from the rivalry.

 
I think we're in for another classic from the NFL's oldest and best rivalry.
minnesota and packers definitely better/more intense rivalry than packers bears.with the bears playing stud run D and packers getting NOTHING on the ground even against buffalo, i can see the bears rushing 4 a lot and playing max coverage. doesnt bode well for rodgers and the pass game considering he has played below his standards to start the season. will be a very close one and i think this game hinges on turnovers. whoever takes care of the ball and wins the field position battle will most likely take this one. toss up but i think CHI might take this one at home. hope im wrong here :blackdot:bears homers: how has the front 4 in CHI been at generating pass rush so far?
 
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packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.
:thumbup:
Which part do you find funny?
Both. With Bulaga in at LT, our OL is as solid as it's been in years. As far as the 2nd part, Rodgers has way more weapons to work with than Cutler does. With the Bears OL, Cutler will be the one running for his life imo..
Well that's certainly a more helpful response than :unsure:
Maybe, but I much prefer just saying :lmao: to things like that..
 
Limp Ditka said:
scott72 said:
You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.
I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.
JUST TELL HIM WHAT HE MISSED FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! :thumbup: :unsure:
 
packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.
:thumbup:
Which part do you find funny?
Both. With Bulaga in at LT, our OL is as solid as it's been in years. As far as the 2nd part, Rodgers has way more weapons to work with than Cutler does. With the Bears OL, Cutler will be the one running for his life imo..
ok, just a couple points..1) best - 14 for 202) jones - 7 for 73) barber - 11 for 31rodgers - 4 td, 2 int, 94 ratingcutler - 5 td, 1 int, 121 rating
I hear ya on the stats, but it's such a small sample size. If we were 6 games in then yea, but 2?
 
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.
Most of what you said is true. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bears win by 3 sure, but I in no way think the Bears can score 34 on the Packers.I see this game being 16-14 or something like that, wouldn't surprise me if the Bears won.In this series, throw out the records, history has shown that.
 
scott72 said:
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.
One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.
I agree with this too.
 
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.
Most of what you said is true. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bears win by 3 sure, but I in no way think the Bears can score 34 on the Packers.I see this game being 16-14 or something like that, wouldn't surprise me if the Bears won.In this series, throw out the records, history has shown that.
I do agree Green bay wins if this is a shootout.
 
Psychopav said:
scott72 said:
Limp Ditka said:
scott72 said:
You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.
I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.
Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..
Limp Ditka's right, you know.You seem to have a mental block since repeatedly ignoring the word "home" in his original post.

Wait - you're a Packer backer, right? I think they only learn to read every 3rd word up there anyway. Never mind.
And leave it to a Bear fan to start with the personal attacks.Good job.

:thumbup:

 
scott72 said:
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.
One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.
Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.
You're right, but the game is not decided on stats, just scores.Barely got by, and lucky to have won, is spot on.

 
scott72 said:
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.
One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.
Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.
Stats don't mean anything. Wins do. Bottom line is their 0-2 and playing awful right now with a questionable coaching staff. As far as the Lions, again, could care less the Bears had 3 times the yards, they beat them by 5. Not what I call domination.
Contradict much?
 
I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.
Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.
Also been nickel d most of the year.
Is this by choice or b/c the DL is banged up?

 
I think we're in for another classic from the NFL's oldest and best rivalry.
minnesota and packers definitely better/more intense rivalry than packers bears.with the bears playing stud run D and packers getting NOTHING on the ground even against buffalo, i can see the bears rushing 4 a lot and playing max coverage. doesnt bode well for rodgers and the pass game considering he has played below his standards to start the season. will be a very close one and i think this game hinges on turnovers. whoever takes care of the ball and wins the field position battle will most likely take this one.

toss up but i think CHI might take this one at home. hope im wrong here :goodposting:

bears homers: how has the front 4 in CHI been at generating pass rush so far?
Outside of Peppers....nothing. Tommie Harris is a disappointment yet again. Mark Anderson has shown nothing as well. Izzy has shown some pressure, but nothing to worry about. The Bears may need to blitz if nobody steps up their game.
 
scott72 said:
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.
One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.
Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.
You're right, but the game is not decided on stats, just scores.Barely got by, and lucky to have won, is spot on.
Then the score indicated they won by 5. Not 3 or 1....5.All of this barely, lucky talk is due to many not liking an NFL rule. Truth is the Bears dominated the entire game outside of turnovers(Forte fumbling on the 30 and Olsen in the redzone hurt the most) and one GL series.

 
scott72 said:
Insein said:
Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.
One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.
Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.
You're right, but the game is not decided on stats, just scores.Barely got by, and lucky to have won, is spot on.
Then the score indicated they won by 5. Not 3 or 1....5.All of this barely, lucky talk is due to many not liking an NFL rule. Truth is the Bears dominated the entire game outside of turnovers(Forte fumbling on the 30 and Olsen in the redzone hurt the most) and one GL series.
Truth is, is that they made the wrong call, and the Bears were lucky.But whatever, A win is a win. If you don't know they were lucky to win that game, that's your problem. When you dominate a team stat wise and barely eke out a win, that's lucky.

Keep telling yourself it's not though, whatever helps you rationalize that win.

I'm done with that game and discussing it. :rolleyes:

 
I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.
Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.
Also been nickel d most of the year.
Is this by choice or b/c the DL is banged up?
Bit both. It's been 2 dl and 4 lb style nickel too
 
I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.
Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.
Also been nickel d most of the year.
Is this by choice or b/c the DL is banged up?
Bit both. It's been 2 dl and 4 lb style nickel too
They just rotate the 2 DL(Raji, Pickett, Jenkins)? What does the front look like? standup backers as DE's???

 
They just rotate the 2 DL(Raji, Pickett, Jenkins)? What does the front look like? standup backers as DE's???
Mostly against Philly it was that rotation when Harrel was out and Jenkins was in and out with thehand issue.And Matthews as one end...mostly stand up ends yesNot sure about during the buff game
 
This is the game Cutler can prove to me that last year is a world away. I don't believe it is yet. I am just glad I have a reason to believe this game will mean something in the end aside from the rivalry.
:goodposting: Agree 100%. The Pack are a very good team, could have been great with Grant and I think they are much weaker without him, but still one of the top in the NFC. Cutler can prove a lot to me in this game.
 
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If Green Bay starts slow like they have, could be very very bad.

Hopefully they have things together this week and come out like they did in the 2nd half against Buffalo with Rodgers clicking.

While the defense has not been great against the run, week 1 it was mostly nickel and how much of the successful running was Vick and not a RB?

Did not see the Buffalo game so I won't comment there.

Forte's speed out of the backfield does worry me though. Wondering who they have "spying" him on these plays.

If he ends up split wide, I am wondering if Woodson would even be on him.

 
This should be a great game and I definitely expect it to be more defensive than offensive, since both have done well defensively. Both OL's have terrible matchups and I would not be shocked for both QB's to be on their back a lot in this game, even if not with sacks but with hurries. I doubt either team does well running the ball though both may do well catching passes out of the backfield due to pressure defense.

I have to say though...as a Bears fan there is little that ticks me off more than the fact that we finally get Favre out of the Green and Gold (something like 66% win percentage against the Bears) and now you have Rodgers who looks like he could be every bit as good. I love having Cutler even with the INT's last year because he looks like a franchise QB, but I think I would probably love it even more if you guys could just endure for a few years the pathetic QB play that we have had. And now by the looks of it you have something like 10-15 more years of great QB play. How is this at all fair?

Should be a fun game. Looking forward to watching Peppers in the backfield all night. ;-)

20-17

 
In the second quarter of the Dallas game Cutler finally realized that he can step up into the pocket to avoid the rush, rather than trying to curl out the back right into the onrushing arms of a D.E. As soon as he did the plays started coming. If he can remember to step up the Bears could win. If he reverts to turning tail to run and then throwing on the run with a D.E. or a L.B. hangin off of him the Bears will not even compete. I wonder if he learned his lesson. He kept it up for three quarters.

The interesting thing is the Vikings are going to be looking at a Division mate with a 3 and 0 record and another with a 2 and 1 record while they are at best 1 and 2.

 
not a fan of either team, so no bias.

da Bears are playing some good ball right now so they have a fighters' chance. their D has some momentum after the Cowboys game. Cutler is throwing the ball well.

that said, i like the Packers in this one by a TD.

 
Does anyone have Jay Cutler Day game/Night game career splits?
This is a valid question. Seem to remember that Cutler sucks in prime time. Anyone?
He was not good in all of their prime games last year (at GB, at ATL and at SF), except the week 16 game against the Vikings. But he is playing much better this year than he was for most of last year, so I am not sure if that means anything.
 
I'm definitely getting my :shock: ready. This should be an interesting game.

My gut tells me it's the packers that win in an ugly defense dominated game 17-10.

However the big stat that will determine the outcome is how many picks Cutler has.

If the bears don't cough up the ball, like they did in the Dallas game they have a chance to win this one at home.

Either way I love the two game we play against the pack each year.

Throw out the records and let's get ready to RUMBLE!!! :boxing:

:clap: :banned: :hifive: :bag: :thumbup:

 
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Bears have to be kind of worried about 1/11 on 3rd downs last week.

edit: also 4/14 vs. Detroit... ay caramba!

 
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love Bear week - still easily the best rivalry the Packers have. I've just been presented with a difficult problem as a buddy has an extra ticket but I've got a couple difficult things at work on Monday and Tuesday and have already committed to an overnighter in Green Bay next month for the Vikings game. I love games at Soldier Field, but MNF is a great experience watching from the couch as well.

As for the game, I jumped on Packers -3 online, but am far from confident. I don't think the Bears will be in the mix by the end of the season (@Lambeau on Jan 2), but they are clearly a formidable team right now. This is Peppers' chance to prove his value - if he's for real, he'll have a fun time with either a gimpy Clifton or the rookie Bulaga.

 
I think the Packers win but I wouldn't put any money on it. I think the first few games of the season are a little misleading. The Packers have the 3rd ranked pass defense in the league but Vick was running the second half of the Philly game and Buffalo is just not good. The Bears should have lost to the Lions and didn't look particularly good in that game. They did look great against Dallas but Dallas has looked bad through 2 games. This comes down to schemes for me. I think overall the Packers have more talent and their strengths matchup to a certain extent with the Bears weakness. The Bears o-line is still weak but Martz has done a good job masking it. They also have a suspect seondary and the Packers will be throwing alot in this game. It's funny to think everyone agrees that the Packers offense isn't clicking yet they have scored 27 and 34 points the first two weeks. Green Bay 31 Chicago 27

 
Does anyone have Jay Cutler Day game/Night game career splits?
This is a valid question. Seem to remember that Cutler sucks in prime time. Anyone?
I didn't see anything on profootballreference.com that would account for Sunday night games, but here's his splits for Thursday/Monday games. Seems pretty pedestrian :bag:ETA, sorry for the formatting
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Value	  G	  W	  L	  T	  Cmp	  Att  Cmp%	  Yds	  TD	  Int	  Rate	  Y/A	  AY/A	  A/G	  Y/G	  Att	  Yds	  Y/A	  TD	  A/G	  Y/G	  TD	  2PM	  PtsMonday 	6 	3 	 3 	 0 	 104 	 172 	 60.5%	1360 	10 	5 	92.7 	7.91 	7.76 	28.7 	226.7 	21 	93 	4.43 	0 	3.5 	15.5 	0 		0Thursday   3 	1 	 2 	 0 	 80 	  133 	  60.2%	1008 	4 	6 	75.0 	7.58 	6.15 	44.3 	336.0 	10 	42 	4.20 	0 	3.3 	14.0 	0 		0
 
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Does anyone have Jay Cutler Day game/Night game career splits?
This is a valid question. Seem to remember that Cutler sucks in prime time. Anyone?
I didn't see anything on profootballreference.com that would account for Sunday night games, but here's his splits for Thursday/Monday games. Seems pretty pedestrian :shrug:ETA, sorry for the formatting
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Value	  G	  W	  L	  T	  Cmp	  Att  Cmp%	  Yds	  TD	  Int	  Rate	  Y/A	  AY/A	  A/G	  Y/G	  Att	  Yds	  Y/A	  TD	  A/G	  Y/G	  TD	  2PM	  PtsMonday 	6 	3 	 3 	 0 	 104 	 172 	 60.5%	1360 	10 	5 	92.7 	7.91 	7.76 	28.7 	226.7 	21 	93 	4.43 	0 	3.5 	15.5 	0 		0Thursday   3 	1 	 2 	 0 	 80 	  133 	  60.2%	1008 	4 	6 	75.0 	7.58 	6.15 	44.3 	336.0 	10 	42 	4.20 	0 	3.3 	14.0 	0 		0
Nice info but is blowing up the thread plz condense or remove.
 
It's funny to think everyone agrees that the Packers offense isn't clicking yet they have scored 27 and 34 points the first two weeks. Green Bay 31 Chicago 27
Thats the scary good thing right now as a Packer fan.Offense has looked out of sync and put up 27 and 34. Maybe it was the teams they played...but if/when they do get going, it will be fun to watch.
 

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