Sabertooth
Footballguy
Pretty simple. It would have been blasphemy to state that Cobb was the best receiver in Green Bay just three months ago. Now what say you?
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Greg Jennings (if healthy) or Randall Cobb (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Jordy
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Greg Jennings owner who stashed him all year and rode Cobb all year. I'm almost starting to consider Jennings as my guy if he looks good and flexing Cobb. It's all really going to come down to opportunity and targets. Now, normally starting two WR's in the same offense is ludicrous. BUT, this is GB with not a strong run game to point to and Rodgers at the helm. Really going to have to read the tea leaves here and try to get a feel for the targets and how they will be spread amongst Jennings, Cobb, and Jordy. Talent wise we know all three can produce, it's really going to come down to who is given the looks to produce.
asuterlowe
Footballguy
I think Cobbs expanded role is a product of the failing running game, if the Packers can give Rodgers better protection than the Giants game I think a healthy Jennings is the obvious choice.
Grand Master B
Footballguy
Clearly Cobb(yes, I'm an owner). Not sure how anyone could trust Jennings this week or next over Cobb. #18 has proven he is a major part of one of the best offenses in the league.
It's going to be fun to see how the offense evolves if Jennings is healthy and the patchwork o-line can pull together.
It's going to be fun to see how the offense evolves if Jennings is healthy and the patchwork o-line can pull together.
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money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Rodgers has been sacked more than any QB in the league.. what makes you think all of the sudden the line is going to protect him better?
Cobb makes plays and is a dynamic player. He can be used in a lot of spots in multiple formations. He's also got a good rapport with Rodgers. Last 2 weeks with Nelson in the lineup, Cobb has gotten more targets (19-7)
The line is my major concern or at least more than Jennings coming back. Cobb had a sure TD Sunday night but the Giants pass rush threw Rodgers off and he couldnt make the throw. Several plays where Rodgers got frazzled and scrambled when he didnt have to missing open receivers.
I recently traded for Cobb based on some reports I read that the doctors wanted to hold Jennings out so he could fully heal. Not sure what to expect now so yes, Im a bit nervous but I still think all 3 WR's can be productive if the line starts to play better.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Cobb
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I own Jennings, wish I owned Cobb still. It will be interesting. People forget very quickly that Jennings is a Top 10 talent as an NFL wideout...in his prime and has amazing chemistry with Rodgers. He's also a team leader and very well thought of. I think he's a Packer again next season to be quite honest.
Jennings would start an virtually any team in the NFL. It's all good for Aaron Rodgers too. Nothing like replacing Driver or James Jones with Greg Jennings to help down the stretch.
Jennings would start an virtually any team in the NFL. It's all good for Aaron Rodgers too. Nothing like replacing Driver or James Jones with Greg Jennings to help down the stretch.
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Start for virtually any team? Yes. Top 10 NFL talent? No.Randall Cobb would start for virtually any team, too.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I disagree on that first point. Jennings is and has been a top receiver since he stepped onto the field. He's average size, but his balance and cutting is unreal.
Calvin, Larry, Andre, Green, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Reggie. I think 95% of people could agree pretty easily that those 8 guys are all better NFL receivers than Greg Jennings.Roddy, Julio, Dez, Cruz, Demaryius, Nicks, Smiff, Welker, Austin, Bowe, Wallace, Stevie, Colston, Nelson, Cobb. Assuming we take those first 8 names as givens, then in order for Greg Jennings to sneak into the top 10, you'd have to take him over 14 of the 15 names on that list. I can totally see taking him over 7 or 8 of those names... but 14 of them? No way in hell.Greg Jennings is a quality, above-average NFL WR1... which means he falls comfortably in the 12-16 range. I think anyone ranking him among the top 10 receivers in the NFL based solely on his NFL skills is off their rocker. There are way too many amazing receivers in the league right now. That's not a knock on Greg Jennings- as I said, he's a legitimate, quality go-to guy. He's just not a game breaker. He's not the kind of guy defensive coordinators design gameplans around. He's not the kind of guy who'll ever know what triple coverage feels like.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's every bit the receiver Reggie Wayne and Vincent Jackson are. He doesn't have the physical presence of Fitzgerald, AJ, Calvin, or Brandon Marshall.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Jennings is playing this week. Limited snap count though apparently. I have a feeling you might be playing Russian Roulette with the Packers receivers during the playoffs. I think Cobb's floor is the highest out of all of them for sure because you know he's going to touch the ball at least 5 times.
Jennings is playing for a new contract though, and maybe Aaron Rodgers treats him with the same care he did Matt Flynn last season. He made his friend a lot of money last year. He could do it again. Just saying.
Jennings is playing for a new contract though, and maybe Aaron Rodgers treats him with the same care he did Matt Flynn last season. He made his friend a lot of money last year. He could do it again. Just saying.
SWC
Bromigo
it is an intersting question but i do not think there is a quick answer because if jennings is back then he will get doubled and if he gets doubled or bracketed then guys like jordy and jones and randall the touchdown robber cobber will be single covered and holy smokes amigos they could put up some crazy numbers again remember jordy the destoryer of nations last year yeah i think you get my point but now think about this what if they do not double jennings and he is back at one hondo percento like the old gregorino him smelf well them bam can you imagine him against single coverage i know i sure can and when i do i imagine a lot of touchdowns and trick plays where he gets a direct snap and is gone for a 90 yard touchdown breaking the record for longest td by a wr from a direct snap to a guy lined up in the slot odds are that mike the wizard from down under mcarthy is not going to do that but hey the old swcer likes to dream if you know what imean brohans so anyhow i would ride cobb because real world even if greg the touchdown machine jennings comes back he will probably not be one hondo percento and rt2rc will still be and jennings back on the field takes pressure off of the robber cobber and we all saw what he can do even with pressure on him so with it easier for him i think he continues to do great and even does a little more but not a lot more due to discount double check winging it all over take that to the bank brohans
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Well stated SWC. My sentiments exactly........
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Cobb has been involved since week 1, even with Jennings in there, but now even more so.
Jennings coming in is a rising tide lifting all boats.
I think Cobb profits from Jennings' presence and if anyone takes a hit it's Jones.
So, a win-win. I did trade Jennings for the Pats DST a few weeks back and I've been very happy with that.
Jennings coming in is a rising tide lifting all boats.
I think Cobb profits from Jennings' presence and if anyone takes a hit it's Jones.
So, a win-win. I did trade Jennings for the Pats DST a few weeks back and I've been very happy with that.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
That's actually spot right up until the part where you start talking trick plays.
Cobb. Jennings and Jordy only draw coverage away from Cobb, giving him more one on ones. I think they'll still work to get him 7-10 touches a game, making him the more consistent option.
Chances Jennings is 100%, probably not great. He's gotta be close or I don't think they'd risk him, but 90% isn't 100%. Also, I'm guessing they ease him back in and he'll need a few weeks to get into football shape.
Chances Jennings is 100%, probably not great. He's gotta be close or I don't think they'd risk him, but 90% isn't 100%. Also, I'm guessing they ease him back in and he'll need a few weeks to get into football shape.
MCguidance
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Well last week was a bit of a "dipping a toe in the water" week for Jennings as McCarthy opted to use him somewhat sparingly before Jordy went down with injury. This week all systems are go for Jennings and there was talk from Rodgers that he would indeed replace Nelson in the lineup. So we can expect some solid numbers. As I explained in another thread, last season when the Packers were on there 15-1 tear, Jennings was scoring big points.
I tend to think Cobbs and Jennings will both be quite effective this weekend against the reeling Lions. I could see Cobb getting more catches if the Lions are able to get some serious heat on Rodgers. I could see Jennings benefitting from better protection and rushing. The playaction game is where he could really do some damage.
The week, I think we see:
Jennings 5-75-1
Cobb 7-70-0, 2 rushes for 15 yards. 0 touchdowns
I tend to think Cobbs and Jennings will both be quite effective this weekend against the reeling Lions. I could see Cobb getting more catches if the Lions are able to get some serious heat on Rodgers. I could see Jennings benefitting from better protection and rushing. The playaction game is where he could really do some damage.
The week, I think we see:
Jennings 5-75-1
Cobb 7-70-0, 2 rushes for 15 yards. 0 touchdowns
Sabertooth
Footballguy
What do you think now with Jordy out. I certainly wouldn't have a problem starting both.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
I posted this very question in the Audible thread last night. The hosts (Sig, Cecil, Waldman) addressed, and said something along the lines of if you acknowledge the risk factor and understand the "never start 2 WR's on the same team" mantra and the bounds of it, then you would pretty much know when you could possibly break it. If the situation suits your team, this could be one of those weeks where you could do that with Rodgers at the helm at home vs the Lions secondary. Sig (I think it was him)also mentioned the possibility of Cobb getting a few more carries on top of targets if the team really doesn't have faith in Green in the backfield. Great point which makes Cobb wedge his way into the lineup even moreso. Didn't even think of that, great food for thought. Why I subscribe!ETA: I'm listening to them and flexing Cobb with Jennings as my WR2. I agree fully, and really was thinking of doing this from the get go.
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wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
packseasontix
Footballguy
Cobb is still the 3rd best but with Jordy and Jennings missing extended time this season Cobb at this moment has been flow with Rodgers. If Jennings would have come back in week 8 I would go the otherway but Jennings is just going to start getting into the groove week 16/17 for the playoffs.Now if you are asking who is the #1 WR for the playoffs to have it would be Jennings as I think he surplants Cobb by the as the go to WR.
