duaneok66
Footballguy
good call.
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Has the Waiver Wire Darling for 2012 Been Found Yet? (1 Viewer)
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southeastjerome
Footballguy
Danny Amendola in PPR.
the spanker
Footballguy
Ryan Williams will be the ONE.
donkshow
Footballguy
Yes, but they could line him up on the outside or run more plays with the slot WR in there. He's doing so much with so little to only play have the game IMO.he's a slot player - he's only on the field half the time.
sdp1226
Footballguy
Agreed he's a better back but the NYJ offense is so dismal, I don't see the numbers stacking up for Powell if named a starter.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
"WAIVER WIRE" darling.....not drafted darling.
strong
Footballguy
No. But in every league I'm in (redraft, keeper, and a dynasty), he wasn't drafted. In all but one league he was grabbed off the wire before the season started. In the one league he wasn't picked up before the season, all transactions are blocked after the draft and until the first week blind bids. I think he counts as a waiver wire gem.'duaneok66 said:
doeseatplace
Footballguy
I agree that Hankerson, Andre Brown and ARI D all have potential (to the extent defenses have enough marginal value to be worthy of thie designation)
I am interested in seeing if Armon Binns can keep it up. Defenses keying on AJ Green + a servicable TE and a good slot receiver; PIT and BAL pass Ds not as strong as they have been historically
I am interested in seeing if Armon Binns can keep it up. Defenses keying on AJ Green + a servicable TE and a good slot receiver; PIT and BAL pass Ds not as strong as they have been historically
Please stop with the Ryan Williams stuff. He was drafted in most leagues. We are looking for the WAIVER WIRE DARLING.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Andre Brown- huge upside on a team that loves to run and has a brittle starter, an underachieving rookie and a coach that doesnt like fumbling.
coachbobbyfinstock
Footballguy
Wrong. You havent even seen them play together once since Bradshaw came back. Clown.
Khy
Footballguy
Everyone say Morris was drafted then suggesting Ryan Williams is really confusing me. Ryan Williams was drafted in every single league I was in as a late round flier. Morris was on every single waiver wire in all of my leagues after the draft. Mainly because people like to stay away from most of the Shanahanigans, also after the preseason we were hearing that Royster was going to get the start as he was 1st on the depth chart. Morris 'should' have been no most waiver wires in 10-12 team leagues with average roster sizes. That said, sure some 14 team leagues or 10-12 team leagues with deep benches he may have been drafted. I'd say in your majority standard leagues he was available after the draft and so far? He's been far and away the best WW player out there.
Also LeShoure, stop. He was another one that was drafted in almost every league.
Also Andre Brown, how can you say he isn't a WW darling? You could have made the same argument for Cruz last season because Manningham started the year as the #2 behind Nicks, we saw how long that lasted. It's Bradshaw's job right now, but if he keeps getting hurt and keeps looking slow and Andre Brown keeps looking like lightning in a bottle? Who are any of you to say he doesn't take over the starting job?
My votes are still by seasons end for Andrew Hawkins and Alfred Morris. Hawkins situation and style reminds me so much of Cruz this time last year. If he keeps making these big plays they'll have no choice but to give him more snaps and more targets, which is exactly what happened with Cruz last year.
Also LeShoure, stop. He was another one that was drafted in almost every league.
Also Andre Brown, how can you say he isn't a WW darling? You could have made the same argument for Cruz last season because Manningham started the year as the #2 behind Nicks, we saw how long that lasted. It's Bradshaw's job right now, but if he keeps getting hurt and keeps looking slow and Andre Brown keeps looking like lightning in a bottle? Who are any of you to say he doesn't take over the starting job?
My votes are still by seasons end for Andrew Hawkins and Alfred Morris. Hawkins situation and style reminds me so much of Cruz this time last year. If he keeps making these big plays they'll have no choice but to give him more snaps and more targets, which is exactly what happened with Cruz last year.
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sorry my league drafted everybody you named so please stop you can't have any of those as WAIVER WIRE darlings my league drafted them nanny nanny boo boo
kegger
Footballguy
No doubt..
Can we stop with the bickering of a guy was or wasn't drafted in all YOUR leagues.
Not All Leagues play the same # of teams or have that same type Lineups or Scoring.
There's always going to be guys at the end of rosters that weren't on other leagues.
Just plug the guy you like that wasn't on YOUR leagues an leave the rest alone, it may
not always be helpful for YOU but it certainly could be for Someone Else's teams though.
Can we stop with the bickering of a guy was or wasn't drafted in all YOUR leagues.
Not All Leagues play the same # of teams or have that same type Lineups or Scoring.
There's always going to be guys at the end of rosters that weren't on other leagues.
Just plug the guy you like that wasn't on YOUR leagues an leave the rest alone, it may
not always be helpful for YOU but it certainly could be for Someone Else's teams though.
spodog
Footballguy
Nope. Story out of NY that Bradshaw has a bulging disc that is pressing on his spinal cord. This ain't no sit down for 1 week and feel better thing for Bradshaw. He's been in platoons with Jacobs before and A Brown showed enough that Bradshaw will be platooning with him the rest of the way even if he is fully healed. Don't be surprised to see Bradshaw shut down for the season at some point, though, as the bulging disc thing doesn't self resolve easily.
Could be right here. This kid has been wildly impressive.
TarheelBlue
Footballguy
In deeper leagues, don't think he's been found yet. I think T Y Hilton will start making a good case for it after the bye, however.
spodog
Footballguy
Except for the guy who picked up Spiller off of waivers in week 1 a few posts up. Is that a 4 team league or is this guy in a league with co-workers in India who don't watch the NFL?
ponchsox
Footballguy
I don't think he's been found yet. I'm sorry but LeShoure, Williams, and Morris don't qualify. These guys were all drafted in competitive leagues. They may have been cut by an owner at some point but we are talking about someone who nobody owned prior to the season, like Victor Cruz last season.
spodog
Footballguy
Or as a boxer. Doh!
spodog
Footballguy
Brandon Stokely posted a 1077 yards and 10 TDs playing in the slot as the WR3 with Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne as team mates.he's a slot player - he's only on the field half the time.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Could Ramses Barden enter the mix with Nicks coming back who knows when?
kegger
Footballguy
LeShoure, Williams, and Morris all should qualify, in someones FF leagues.In fact at least 1 of those guy's were available in all (7) of the leagues I am in. Most leagues I'm in don't have 5 "extra" bench spots, 2 are 2 QB leagues, and 1 league DEF scores a lot so many teams have extra D, there way to many factors inOTHER league types to suggest in "competent" leagues these guys weren't available..
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donkshow
Footballguy
I think so. I regret not picking him up this week.
Rushmore
Footballguy
Who gives a #### though...Except for the guy who picked up Spiller off of waivers in week 1 a few posts up. Is that a 4 team league or is this guy in a league with co-workers in India who don't watch the NFL?
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Martellus Bennett.
Don't see him slowing down. Double digit TD season. 800-900 receiving yards.
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Honorable mention: Barden.
This Nicks situation isn't going to turn out good. Barden should provide solid value. I just expect Nicks back at some point. (don't see him providing the season long value of Bennett)
Don't see him slowing down. Double digit TD season. 800-900 receiving yards.
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Honorable mention: Barden.
This Nicks situation isn't going to turn out good. Barden should provide solid value. I just expect Nicks back at some point. (don't see him providing the season long value of Bennett)
northwoods
Footballguy
Both of those Defenses have been surprisingly good and were probably undrafted (SEA was drafted in my 10 teamer) but can we consider a defense the waiver wire pickup of the year? I'm not convinced a DEF can be a difference maker over the course of the whole season...not every game is going to turn out like the Packers on Mon. night.
Its scary how a guy is so worried about losing his starting job in the NFL that he is willing to play football with a bulging disc pressing on his spinal cord.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
If Donnie Avery was undrafted, it could be him. Arians doesn't stop beaming about him. He gets targets long and short. Collie isn't coming back. The rookies may get some looks, but Avery and Wayne will be consistently targeted. Arians said Avery is playing the Mike Wallace role in the offense. I like him after the BYE a lot.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Ogletree.
Thanks Doctor. Errrr, can I take a peek at the MRI please. Pretty much every human being has a bulging disc and/or degenerative disc disease to some degree. If, Where, and How much that bulge is pushing on the nerve roots is what we need to know to determine if he may or may not miss any more time. Oh yeah, his pain tolerance could be an important factor as well, although some people with bulging discs don't feel any pain, but that goes back to the nerve root comment above.
Some people here just can't grasp a simple concept. Waiver Wire darling is someone who went virtually undrafted in ALL leagues no matter the size (unless you're talking about deep 20+ team leagues) and/or began the season on the Waiver Wire in all leagues (for all you people who are calling Alfred Morris a Waiver Wire darling because you held your draft in June).
It amazes me that people don't see the difference between Brandon Lloyd/Victor Cruz and Alfred Morris/Mikel Leshoure.
If you're in a small league with shallow benches, don't even come an write in this thread unless you get the point. Your thoughts are useless. I'm still waiting for someone in a 6-team league to come here and say Torrey Smith.
It amazes me that people don't see the difference between Brandon Lloyd/Victor Cruz and Alfred Morris/Mikel Leshoure.
If you're in a small league with shallow benches, don't even come an write in this thread unless you get the point. Your thoughts are useless. I'm still waiting for someone in a 6-team league to come here and say Torrey Smith.
ponchsox
Footballguy
The same people who think Morris and Leshoure qualify as WW darlings were saying Cam Newton last year.That team that loves to run finished 32nd in the league last year in rushing yards.
LOL. you don't get it either, apparently. Cam Newton absolutely was one last year. The biggest example of a WW darling qb since Kurt Warner.you sir, are an idiot.
ponchsox
Footballguy
LOL. you don't get it either, apparently. Cam Newton absolutely was one last year. The biggest example of a WW darling qb since Kurt Warner.you sir, are an idiot.
the spanker
Footballguy
My apologies. I said Ryan Williams because he was dropped by another owner and picked up off of waivers after Beanie went down. I forgot he was actually drafted in the later rounds of our 12-man draft.
I would agree with the posters who said Avery.
He fits the best description here.
I would agree with the posters who said Avery.
He fits the best description here.
Why don't you just say, "has to be less than 5% owned on Yahoo at the start of the season to qualify." Give an objective measure.
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
How valuable a great DST is depends a lot on your league scoring. There are major discrepancies in how DST's are scored, obviously. If your league awards a lot of points for low yardage allowed and low points allowed, than defenses can be huge difference makers.Although it often makes sense to "wait" on defenses during the draft because they change in value so much year-to-year, once it becomes clear which the dominant DST's are, they are very valuable in lots of leagues. I think the Cardinals DST will end up as one of, if not the, waiver wire pickup of the year. They haven't even reached their "ceiling" yet, either, since they have a great returner in Patrick Peterson but he has yet to score and their schedule gets easier from here on out. VBD assessments work a little differently for defenses, too, because lots of owners will keep starting underperforming "good" defenses that are actually performing below the baseline levels. This rarely happens at other positions.
mozzy84
Footballguy
plus he really hasnt done squat anywaysi think he was drafted in most leagues...at least in every league i'm in'Raiderfan32904 said:'the spanker said:
kegger
Footballguy
That might be YOUR definition.. (But not Everyone else)These threads are not just for a select few who "believe" they are in the BEST leagues possible, it is for the whole community, an many can benefit from them.WW wonder for me are the guys that were drafted on "Some" teams at the very end of there drafts or not drafted at all in quite a few leagues, it does not Have to be a guythat was "guaranteed" not to be drafted by Anyone in Any Leagues across the boards.(but players that were available in "quite a number" of leagues and not drafted there) ------------Jerome Simpson might be a candidate, probably not drafted in many leagues, an may break out with the way Ponder has been playing an the surrounding supporting offense.(for that matter Ponder himself if he continues to improve and adding Jerome Simpson).
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