"Hasn't been a good start for Dez Bryant"? (1 Viewer)

[BeTheMatch]

From today's mailer:

Source: Calvin Watkins - ESPNDallas.com

Calvin Watkins, of ESPNDallas.com, reports Dallas Cowboys rookie WR Dez Bryant (ankle) suffered a twisted left ankle Sunday, May 2, during the team?s rookie minicamp practice. Bryant walked gingerly to the team's bus with his left shoe off. The injury does not appear serious, as head coach Wade Phillips said Bryant was fine.

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It hasn't been a good start for rookie WR Dez Bryant. His first practice included him dry heaving on the sidelines and constantly needing water. Now, it's an ankle injury that will keep him from practicing. It's a long way from the start of the season, so this rough start doesn't bother us.

That's weird, especially considering Wade Phillips called Bryant one of the most impressive rookie he's ever seen.

 

[fatness]

A hobbled receiver is not the image Phillips will carry from his first extended exposure to Bryant. This is:

"Dez Bryant is an absolute talent," Phillips said. "You don't get to be around many players that come in and look that good that early. It's been 33 years, and there aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position for a three-day period. We're pleased with him. And he was on time for everything, too."

The chronic tardiness that was listed in Bryant's debit column didn't materialize. He struggled with his conditioning in the first day of camp, but he fought through it and made difficult catches look routine in each of his five practice sessions.

Phillips said whatever the coaches corrected or asked Bryant to do – lower his hips, come out of his break a different way, etc. – the rookie did the first time he was told. Bryant joked with the coaches before Sunday's drills that, "those defensive backs better be ready," but he fit in easily with the rest of his teammates and shouted encouragement during drills.

"He's pretty natural and has great body control," Phillips said. "Great hands. Great quickness. Great power. Speed. He likes to compete. He's a nice kid. He's yes sir, no sir. He's not a diva yet, for sure."

Link

 

[Todem]

It's May.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

A hobbled receiver is not the image Phillips will carry from his first extended exposure to Bryant. This is:

"Dez Bryant is an absolute talent," Phillips said. "You don't get to be around many players that come in and look that good that early. It's been 33 years, and there aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position for a three-day period. We're pleased with him. And he was on time for everything, too."

The chronic tardiness that was listed in Bryant's debit column didn't materialize. He struggled with his conditioning in the first day of camp, but he fought through it and made difficult catches look routine in each of his five practice sessions.

Phillips said whatever the coaches corrected or asked Bryant to do – lower his hips, come out of his break a different way, etc. – the rookie did the first time he was told. Bryant joked with the coaches before Sunday's drills that, "those defensive backs better be ready," but he fit in easily with the rest of his teammates and shouted encouragement during drills.

"He's pretty natural and has great body control," Phillips said. "Great hands. Great quickness. Great power. Speed. He likes to compete. He's a nice kid. He's yes sir, no sir. He's not a diva yet, for sure."

Link

 

[comet909]

Uh Oh!! My league gives -2 points for each dry heave. I'm bumping him down.

 

[Mello]

Here's Irvin's take on Dez's first practices

"Michael Irvin attended rookie practice today and he took time out to lecture the media on the first day coverage of Cowboys No. 1 draft pick Dez Bryant.

In the first day of minicamp Friday, Bryant -- who is wearing the same No. 88 worn by Irvin -- was winded several times and also threw up. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and head coach Wade Phillips defended Bryant, saying that the rookies were pushed hard the first day and it wasn’t uncommon for players to be winded or get sick.

Irvin said that he detected negativism in the coverage and he disagreed with the emphasis.

“I was working and I got some texts [that said] he looks great in practice, he looks great in practice,” Irvin said. “And then I got a text ‘Dez threw up.’

“That’s great. I found it interesting the coverage of it because I saw it as something great. Whenever you get somebody that is willing to push himself past the place where his body is saying ‘no more, no more,’ then you’ve got something.

“I want a guy that’s throwing up and still catching the ball. I can get him in shape in two weeks. It’s much easier to get a guy in shape that’s hungry than have a guy that’s in shape and not hungry.

“I used to do it out here all the time too. I used to push myself until I threw up and kept going. I want you to understand what it takes in your mind to [continue playing while throwing up[. You’re body is saying ‘what are you doing, stop.’ And you ,keep going and you keep going and you make that play. That’s a beast right there buddy. . . . that’s how you win championships and that’s the best thing I heard yesterday. It’s not the way y’all reported it.”

Irvin spent considerable time after practice talking one-on-one to Bryant, who was impressive in making several tough catches in practice.

“He’s a natural receiver,” Irvin said.

-- Jan Hubbard

http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/cowboys/#ixzz0mhkFk6vN

And video: http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/mu...188BEC5A64EF2D0

 

[werdnoynek]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

 

[BeTheMatch]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

The head coach called him one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen. Are you saying that's a bad start? I don't get what you're trying to say here.

 

[Lehigh98]

Here's Irvin's take on Dez's first practices

“I want a guy that’s throwing up and still catching the ball. I can get him in shape in two weeks. It’s much easier to get a guy in shape that’s hungry than have a guy that’s in shape and not hungry.

Next story: "Michael Irvin publicly endorses Bulimia"

Here's Irvin's take on Dez's first practices

“I used to do it out here all the time too. I used to push myself until I threw up and kept going.”

Let's not be critical of Irvin's conditioning because of this comment, it may have been more a result of his coke binges.

 

[werdnoynek]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

The head coach called him one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen. Are you saying that's a bad start? I don't get what you're trying to say here.

i'm saying you're over-reacting. did you miss the part where fbg's said the rough start doesn't worry them??

 

[TheFanatic]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

The head coach called him one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen. Are you saying that's a bad start? I don't get what you're trying to say here.

Puking one day and rolling an ankle another is OK if the coach says he was impressed? Sure, I guess you can take solace in that, but it would've been a lot better without the heaving and the time in the training room, right?

 

[JohnnyU]

Has Roy Williams been put on waivers yet?

 

[werdnoynek]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

The head coach called him one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen. Are you saying that's a bad start? I don't get what you're trying to say here.

Puking one day and rolling an ankle another is OK if the coach says he was impressed? Sure, I guess you can take solace in that, but it would've been a lot better without the heaving and the time in the training room, right?

agreed. you can ignore the rough start part if you please... he obviously overcame the adversity and impressed. i think it's safe to say you can hold him, no need to drop him yet. i repeat - the sky is not falling.

 

[doowain]

Here's Irvin's take on Dez's first practices

"Michael Irvin attended rookie practice today and he took time out to lecture the media on the first day coverage of Cowboys No. 1 draft pick Dez Bryant.

In the first day of minicamp Friday, Bryant -- who is wearing the same No. 88 worn by Irvin -- was winded several times and also threw up. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and head coach Wade Phillips defended Bryant, saying that the rookies were pushed hard the first day and it wasn’t uncommon for players to be winded or get sick.

Irvin said that he detected negativism in the coverage and he disagreed with the emphasis.

“I was working and I got some texts [that said] he looks great in practice, he looks great in practice,” Irvin said. “And then I got a text ‘Dez threw up.’

“That’s great. I found it interesting the coverage of it because I saw it as something great. Whenever you get somebody that is willing to push himself past the place where his body is saying ‘no more, no more,’ then you’ve got something.

“I want a guy that’s throwing up and still catching the ball. I can get him in shape in two weeks. It’s much easier to get a guy in shape that’s hungry than have a guy that’s in shape and not hungry.

“I used to do it out here all the time too. I used to push myself until I threw up and kept going. I want you to understand what it takes in your mind to [continue playing while throwing up[. You’re body is saying ‘what are you doing, stop.’ And you ,keep going and you keep going and you make that play. That’s a beast right there buddy. . . . that’s how you win championships and that’s the best thing I heard yesterday. It’s not the way y’all reported it.”

Irvin spent considerable time after practice talking one-on-one to Bryant, who was impressive in making several tough catches in practice.

“He’s a natural receiver,” Irvin said.

-- Jan Hubbard

http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/cowboys/#ixzz0mhkFk6vN

And video: http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/mu...188BEC5A64EF2D0

Great take by Irvin.The guy hasn't been in a game in 7 months or so. Give him a break. For him to come out and obviously give more than he had in the tank SHOULD quell some of the "lazy" criticism. Instead, the haters find another angle. You'll all be quieted soon enough

 

[B-Deep]

man people are sensitive

 

[werdnoynek]

man people are sensitive

 

[BeTheMatch]

man people are sensitive

I'd say you're the one being sensitive. I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys. And you're rushing to their defense as if I've run over Joe Bryant's dog or something.

 

[B-Deep]

man people are sensitive

I'd say you're the one being sensitive. I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys. And you're rushing to their defense as if I've run over Joe Bryant's dog or something.

who cares?the stories and joe's tidbit were complete afterthoughts to me

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Has Roy Williams been put on waivers yet?

That would seal the deal on the Cowboys really liking Dez.

 

[werdnoynek]

man people are sensitive

I'd say you're the one being sensitive. I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys. And you're rushing to their defense as if I've run over Joe Bryant's dog or something.

i'm not defending anyone. i'm telling you that you're over reacting. you're overlooking the rough start and stating that the coaches were impressed. you can have a rough start and still impress... i think that's more than clear. you're acting like we're foolish for accepting the fact that dez had a rough start. rough start or not, i still think he's going to be a stud. can we agree on that?

 

[lord_helmet]

I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion

I agree that its no big deal, but I had the same reaction when I read that blurp about Bryant. It had that PFT feel to it.

 

[lord_helmet]

Has Roy Williams been put on waivers yet?

That would seal the deal on the Cowboys really liking Dez.

They don't save much money by releasing him as I understand it. I think he's going to be staying no matter what.

 

[Mustang Man]

I am sure this guy will be under the microscope from the media almost as much as Tebow. The guy tweaked an ankle and isn't in football shape in May. He will be so stop it. People want to see him fail. He is the best wr in the draft period. Now lets see if he can be as good as his talent in the pro's. If he keeps his act clean and works hard Tony to DEZ will give the NFC East nightmares for years to come

 

[Mustang Man]

Has Roy Williams been put on waivers yet?

That would seal the deal on the Cowboys really liking Dez.

Yeah Roy will be gone if Dez shows up big in camp. IMO Roy just does not work in the slot. If Dez steps up and gets the starting nod, Roy is done. Crayton is the slot guy #3 with Ogletree right on his heels as a slot #3 guy. That leaves Sam Hurd and Roy for the #5 slot. Hurd lead the team in special teams tackles last season Hurd gets the #5 spot. Bye Roy take the money and run. That's on you Jerry.

 

[Sabertooth]

soo dry heaving and twisting an ankle is a good start??? i don't get what you're trying to say here.

The head coach called him one of the most impressive rookies he's ever seen. Are you saying that's a bad start? I don't get what you're trying to say here.

No he's saying it isn't a good start. Quit with the straw man argument already. A good start would be all the stuff that happened minus hydration and ankle issues.

 

[lord_helmet]

Yeah Roy will be gone if Dez shows up big in camp. IMO Roy just does not work in the slot. If Dez steps up and gets the starting nod, Roy is done. Crayton is the slot guy #3 with Ogletree right on his heels as a slot #3 guy. That leaves Sam Hurd and Roy for the #5 slot. Hurd lead the team in special teams tackles last season Hurd gets the #5 spot. Bye Roy take the money and run. That's on you Jerry.

If almost all of his money is guaranteed, why not keep him regardless? Because of the roster spot he occupies?

 

[Mustang Man]

Has Roy Williams been put on waivers yet?

That would seal the deal on the Cowboys really liking Dez.

They don't save much money by releasing him as I understand it. I think he's going to be staying no matter what.

Not 100% sure but yeah his money is guaranteed this season but if they cut him they would save money in the future. Not sure how much, but if they can recoop any of that money, do it.

 

[bushdocda]

If he scores a preseason TD, Jerry is naming the stadium after him.

 

[Bayhawks]

I'd say you're the one being sensitive.

Then you'd be wrong.

I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys.

How is saying "It hasn't been a good start for rookie WR Dez Bryant," sensationalistic or uninformed? Do you consider a player having to stop multiple times during practice to throw up a good thing? Do you consider having a sprained ankle a good thing? If not, then this report is neither sensationalistic or uninformed. If you wanted to argue incomplete, you have a point, however, it would be next to impossible to report EVERYTHING that anyone ever said about every single player on an NFL team.You conveniently ignored the part of the FBG's report that says this "rough start doesn't bother us." FBG's isn't trashing Bryant, they merely reported that his start with the Cowboys didn't go as well as people might have hoped.

 

[TheFanatic]

Great take by Irvin.The guy hasn't been in a game in 7 months or so. Give him a break. For him to come out and obviously give more than he had in the tank SHOULD quell some of the "lazy" criticism. Instead, the haters find another angle. You'll all be quieted soon enough

I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't own Dez, don't think what he did should've gotten him suspended like that. And while he hasn't been in a game in 7 months, he has to have been able to get into a gym in the last 7 months. He had one job after he got suspended - get ready for the NFL. Coming in out of shape, whether he went beyond what he was capable of with the puking, is still coming in out of shape. Now that he has the spotlight on him at a level he has never seen and coaches in his face I have no doubt he will be in shape soon enough. Makes one wonder what will happen if he has a great first year and pulls a Britt in the next offseason based on this? Seems to be way too much man love for the guy here to be so sensitive to the comment and so vehemently defend the kid who hasn't done a thing in the NFL to warrant that defense, so fire down people. All I'm saying is he came in out of shape and will be fine now that he is in a disciplined environment...

 

[imagroid]

Great take by Irvin.The guy hasn't been in a game in 7 months or so. Give him a break. For him to come out and obviously give more than he had in the tank SHOULD quell some of the "lazy" criticism. Instead, the haters find another angle. You'll all be quieted soon enough

I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't own Dez, don't think what he did should've gotten him suspended like that. And while he hasn't been in a game in 7 months, he has to have been able to get into a gym in the last 7 months. He had one job after he got suspended - get ready for the NFL. Coming in out of shape, whether he went beyond what he was capable of with the puking, is still coming in out of shape. Now that he has the spotlight on him at a level he has never seen and coaches in his face I have no doubt he will be in shape soon enough. Makes one wonder what will happen if he has a great first year and pulls a Britt in the next offseason based on this? Seems to be way too much man love for the guy here to be so sensitive to the comment and so vehemently defend the kid who hasn't done a thing in the NFL to warrant that defense, so fire down people. All I'm saying is he came in out of shape and will be fine now that he is in a disciplined environment...

Out of shape? WTF. Did you see his workouts? The man is chiseled out of granite. Have you ever been to football camp? Rookies are SUPPOSED to puke their first day. If they don't, it's because the coaches took it easy on them.

 

[doowain]

I'd say you're the one being sensitive.

Then you'd be wrong.

I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys.

How is saying "It hasn't been a good start for rookie WR Dez Bryant," sensationalistic or uninformed? Do you consider a player having to stop multiple times during practice to throw up a good thing? Do you consider having a sprained ankle a good thing? If not, then this report is neither sensationalistic or uninformed. If you wanted to argue incomplete, you have a point, however, it would be next to impossible to report EVERYTHING that anyone ever said about every single player on an NFL team.You conveniently ignored the part of the FBG's report that says this "rough start doesn't bother us." FBG's isn't trashing Bryant, they merely reported that his start with the Cowboys didn't go as well as people might have hoped.

This back and forth is starting to remind me of the "Nothing Fight" bit that Dane Cook does.

 

[lord_helmet]

Rookies are SUPPOSED to puke their first day. If they don't, it's because the coaches took it easy on them.

Very

 

[daveR]

I am sure this guy will be under the microscope from the media almost as much as Tebow. The guy tweaked an ankle and isn't in football shape in May. He will be so stop it. People want to see him fail. He is the best wr in the draft period. Now lets see if he can be as good as his talent in the pro's. If he keeps his act clean and works hard Tony to DEZ will give the NFC East nightmares for years to come

No matter who you are, you have detractors. If you are famous, the number increases. That's just life.

 

[Mello]

I figured throwing Irvin's take out there would spark a debate. I think the truth is probably somewhere between the media's view and Irvin's homer comments. Dez has probably spent more time in the weight room than on cardio training and a tough first rookie camp exposed an area he needs to work on. Looking at him, I don't think anyone can claim he hasn't been working out though. Good thing is, he has 4 months and a whole training camp to get into playing shape. He also seems to be willing to put in the work. We'll see if that continues after he signs the big contract and those 1000 people that were in his house during the draft start calling him up.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I'd say you're the one being sensitive.

Then you'd be wrong.

I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys.

How is saying "It hasn't been a good start for rookie WR Dez Bryant," sensationalistic or uninformed? Do you consider a player having to stop multiple times during practice to throw up a good thing? Do you consider having a sprained ankle a good thing? If not, then this report is neither sensationalistic or uninformed. If you wanted to argue incomplete, you have a point, however, it would be next to impossible to report EVERYTHING that anyone ever said about every single player on an NFL team.You conveniently ignored the part of the FBG's report that says this "rough start doesn't bother us." FBG's isn't trashing Bryant, they merely reported that his start with the Cowboys didn't go as well as people might have hoped.

I consider the throwing up and a twisted ankle to be irrelevant to whether he has a good start or a bad start. But people who want to make something out of nothing (like ESPN) predictably seize on trivial things like this in an attempt to find their next T.O.-like punching bag. It's lazy and sensationalistic.

 

[werdnoynek]

I'd say you're the one being sensitive.

Then you'd be wrong.

I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys.

How is saying "It hasn't been a good start for rookie WR Dez Bryant," sensationalistic or uninformed? Do you consider a player having to stop multiple times during practice to throw up a good thing? Do you consider having a sprained ankle a good thing? If not, then this report is neither sensationalistic or uninformed. If you wanted to argue incomplete, you have a point, however, it would be next to impossible to report EVERYTHING that anyone ever said about every single player on an NFL team.

You conveniently ignored the part of the FBG's report that says this "rough start doesn't bother us."

FBG's isn't trashing Bryant, they merely reported that his start with the Cowboys didn't go as well as people might have hoped.

I consider the throwing up and a twisted ankle to be irrelevant to whether he has a good start or a bad start. But people who want to make something out of nothing (like ESPN) predictably seize on trivial things like this in an attempt to find their next T.O.-like punching bag. It's lazy and sensationalistic.

 

[Multiple Scores]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out.

Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:

Romo

Sanchez

Wells

Greene

Matthews

Benson

Wallace

Crabtree

Roddy

Bowe

Celek

I will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

 

[BeTheMatch]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out. Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:RomoSanchezWellsGreeneMatthewsBensonWallaceCrabtreeRoddyBoweCelekI will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

Actually, I don't own Dez in any of my leagues. This isn't about me or any bias I might have. I think it does a disservice to FBG's readers when they sum a marquee rookie's first minicamp as being off to a rough start. Especially when the comments from the head coach are so positive and so gushing and so opposite of that. Yet there's no mention of that.

 

[werdnoynek]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out. Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:RomoSanchezWellsGreeneMatthewsBensonWallaceCrabtreeRoddyBoweCelekI will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

 

[Tyrion]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out.

Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:

Romo

Sanchez

Wells

Greene

Matthews

Benson

Wallace

Crabtree

Roddy

Bowe

Celek

I will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

Actually, I don't own Dez in any of my leagues. This isn't about me or any bias I might have. I think it does a disservice to FBG's readers when they sum a marquee rookie's first minicamp as being off to a rough start. Especially when the comments from the head coach are so positive and so gushing and so opposite of that. Yet there's no mention of that.

I agree. If I were to just look at it and not have better information, I would assume from that post that Dez wasn't showing the skills and talent that made him a 1st round steal. It is almost as if they didn't do their research and simply read a headline and went with it. That is sloppy work.

He had an incredible work out. When a man can be dry heaving between sets and still put on a clinic in his very first camp well that is impressive. He also bounced back with equally impressive showings the next two days without any of the stops that he had the first day. BTW the turned ankle was minor and did not stop him from doing any of the route running and the only thing he missed were the sprints at the end.

Go here and judge for yourself.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/mu...B7CEDB5061489A5

 

[werdnoynek]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out.

Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:

Romo

Sanchez

Wells

Greene

Matthews

Benson

Wallace

Crabtree

Roddy

Bowe

Celek

I will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

Actually, I don't own Dez in any of my leagues. This isn't about me or any bias I might have. I think it does a disservice to FBG's readers when they sum a marquee rookie's first minicamp as being off to a rough start. Especially when the comments from the head coach are so positive and so gushing and so opposite of that. Yet there's no mention of that.

I agree. If I were to just look at it and not have better information, I would assume from that post that Dez wasn't showing the skills and talent that made him a 1st round steal. It is almost as if they didn't do their research and simply read a headline and went with it. That is sloppy work.

He had an incredible work out. When a man can be dry heaving between sets and still put on a clinic in his very first camp well that is impressive. He also bounced back with equally impressive showings the next two days without any of the stops that he had the first day. BTW the turned ankle was minor and did not stop him from doing any of the route running and the only thing he missed were the sprints at the end.

Go here and judge for yourself.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/mu...B7CEDB5061489A5

FBG's was just responding to the report of his ankle injury... one report. you guys are blowing this way out of proportion.

 

[Tyrion]

FBG, just a heads up. If I ever hear you being critical of the 49ers team, I will be posting my disapproval and will call you out.

Do not be critical of these players either cause they are on my team or I will get angry:

Romo

Sanchez

Wells

Greene

Matthews

Benson

Wallace

Crabtree

Roddy

Bowe

Celek

I will update you when I make trades of other players you need to keep your pieholes closed about, don't piss me off FBG.

Actually, I don't own Dez in any of my leagues. This isn't about me or any bias I might have. I think it does a disservice to FBG's readers when they sum a marquee rookie's first minicamp as being off to a rough start. Especially when the comments from the head coach are so positive and so gushing and so opposite of that. Yet there's no mention of that.

I agree. If I were to just look at it and not have better information, I would assume from that post that Dez wasn't showing the skills and talent that made him a 1st round steal. It is almost as if they didn't do their research and simply read a headline and went with it. That is sloppy work.

He had an incredible work out. When a man can be dry heaving between sets and still put on a clinic in his very first camp well that is impressive. He also bounced back with equally impressive showings the next two days without any of the stops that he had the first day. BTW the turned ankle was minor and did not stop him from doing any of the route running and the only thing he missed were the sprints at the end.

Go here and judge for yourself.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/mu...B7CEDB5061489A5

FBG's was just responding to the report of his ankle injury... one report. you guys are blowing this way out of proportion.

It's not blowing something out of proportion to point out a bad post. Just say, yup they screwed up. Thanks for enlightening us on the facts of the article and move on. Don't stop and try to polish it.

 

[thatguy]

Oof.

Can someone lock this pointless pissing match?

 

[B-Deep]

seriously

you guys are making us all look bad

for whatever its worth the reports are he was puking and twisted his ankle, which are not a good way to start

it does not mean anything, if he lit the world on fire it also would not mean anything, this is rookie camp

news is slow, take it for what it is, and don't be so damn sensitive

 

[werdnoynek]

seriouslyyou guys are making us all look badfor whatever its worth the reports are he was puking and twisted his ankle, which are not a good way to startit does not mean anything, if he lit the world on fire it also would not mean anything, this is rookie campnews is slow, take it for what it is, and don't be so damn sensitive

/thread

 

[BeTheMatch]

seriouslyyou guys are making us all look badfor whatever its worth the reports are he was puking and twisted his ankle, which are not a good way to startit does not mean anything, if he lit the world on fire it also would not mean anything, this is rookie campnews is slow, take it for what it is, and don't be so damn sensitive

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Thanks, mod

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't know whether Dez will be a star or a dud (or any point in betwwen), but with all the hype that Jerry Jones was spewing, what else could Phillips really say? He pretty much had to say the kid was special or he would be making the team owner look bad.

As for Phillips eye for talent, here were all the rookie WRs he's seen up close and personal in his 35 years in the NFL:

Houston (1976-1980)

Steve Largent (yes, that Steve Largent . . . who was going to be cut as a rookie and traded for an 8th round pick)

Dan O'Rourke

Allen Misher

Warren Anderson

Steve Davis

Eddie Foster

Mike Renfro

Willie Thicklen

Johnnie Dirden

Richard Ellender

Tim Smith

Eddie Preston

Wiley Pitts

New Orleans (1981 - 1985)

Kevin Williams

Lester Mickens

Lindsay Scott

Eugene Goodlow

Kenny Duckett

Eric Martin

Philadelphia (1986 - 1988)

Corn Redick

Todd White

Denver (1989 - 1994)

Anthony Stafford

John Javis

Derek Russell

Curtis Mayfield

Jon Bostick

Cedric Tillman

Melvin Bonner

Antonius Kimbrough

Brian Stablein

Buffalo (1995 - 2000)

Justin Armour

Eric Moulds

Fred Coleman

Kamil Loud

Peerless Price

Avion Black

Drew Haddad

Atlanta (2002 - 2003)

Kahlil Hill

Michael Coleman

Jon Olinger

LaTarence Dunbar

San Diego (2004 - 2006)

Ryan Krause

Vincent Jackson

Dallas (2007 - 2009)

Manuel Johnson

The irony here, of course, is the best guy that Phillips likely ever saw as a rookie was also the first rookie that he ever saw at WR (Largent). But he was a defensive assistant coach and Largent was only around a few weeks and traded. There were several other notable guys over the years (Martin, Moulds, and V-Jax and one or two others), but for the most part, the rookies that were drafted over the years were not much to write home about. Basically, there were 40 other guys that came and went without much fanfare at all. Given that Phillips was a defensive coach, I'm not sure how closely he paid attention to the rookie wideouts in the first place.

Long story short, Bryant could very well be the most talented rookie WR he has seen in his time in the NFL . . . but there weren't a whole lot of other options to give Bryant a run for his money. (This is not to diminish either Bryant or Phillips, just stating that Phillips hasn't exactly come from teams that have lit it up in the WR drafting category, even if his teams may have had some decent WRs.)

 

[netnalp]

The Olsen twins must be natural WRs

 

[lord_helmet]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw