"Hasn't been a good start for Dez Bryant"? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

I don't know whether Dez will be a star or a dud (or any point in betwwen), but with all the hype that Jerry Jones was spewing, what else could Phillips really say? He pretty much had to say the kid was special or he would be making the team owner look bad.As for Phillips eye for talent, here were all the rookie WRs he's seen up close and personal in his 35 years in the NFL:Houston (1976-1980)Steve Largent (yes, that Steve Largent . . . who was going to be cut as a rookie and traded for an 8th round pick)Dan O'RourkeAllen MisherWarren AndersonSteve DavisEddie FosterMike RenfroWillie ThicklenJohnnie DirdenRichard EllenderTim SmithEddie PrestonWiley PittsNew Orleans (1981 - 1985)Kevin WilliamsLester MickensLindsay ScottEugene GoodlowKenny DuckettEric MartinPhiladelphia (1986 - 1988)Corn RedickTodd WhiteDenver (1989 - 1994)Anthony StaffordJohn JavisDerek RussellCurtis MayfieldJon BostickCedric TillmanMelvin BonnerAntonius KimbroughBrian StableinBuffalo (1995 - 2000)Justin ArmourEric MouldsFred ColemanKamil LoudPeerless PriceAvion BlackDrew HaddadAtlanta (2002 - 2003)Kahlil HillMichael ColemanJon OlingerLaTarence DunbarSan Diego (2004 - 2006)Ryan KrauseVincent JacksonDallas (2007 - 2009)Manuel JohnsonThe irony here, of course, is the best guy that Phillips likely ever saw as a rookie was also the first rookie that he ever saw at WR (Largent). But he was a defensive assistant coach and Largent was only around a few weeks and traded. There were several other notable guys over the years (Martin, Moulds, and V-Jax and one or two others), but for the most part, the rookies that were drafted over the years were not much to write home about. Basically, there were 40 other guys that came and went without much fanfare at all. Given that Phillips was a defensive coach, I'm not sure how closely he paid attention to the rookie wideouts in the first place.Long story short, Bryant could very well be the most talented rookie WR he has seen in his time in the NFL . . . but there weren't a whole lot of other options to give Bryant a run for his money. (This is not to diminish either Bryant or Phillips, just stating that Phillips hasn't exactly come from teams that have lit it up in the WR drafting category, even if his teams may have had some decent WRs.)

What's scary is that you thought enough of this to look that info up. It's amazing what's getting talked about right now.

 

[TheFanatic]

It's not blowing something out of proportion to point out a bad post. Just say, yup they screwed up. Thanks for enlightening us on the facts of the article and move on. Don't stop and try to polish it.

Going on and on like this is definitely blowing something out of proportion. So far the guy has had a single mini camp and you are losing your mind of some very minor, yet accurate comment on the guy in the beginning of May. Just wait till he drops a pass in a preseason game, you know, when it counts, and he gets some criticism. Your head will explode...

 

[werdnoynek]

It's not blowing something out of proportion to point out a bad post. Just say, yup they screwed up. Thanks for enlightening us on the facts of the article and move on. Don't stop and try to polish it.

Going on and on like this is definitely blowing something out of proportion. So far the guy has had a single mini camp and you are losing your mind of some very minor, yet accurate comment on the guy in the beginning of May. Just wait till he drops a pass in a preseason game, you know, when it counts, and he gets some criticism. Your head will explode...

 

[David Yudkin]

What's scary is that you thought enough of this to look that info up. It's amazing what's getting talked about right now.

I looked it up because I was curious if Phillips had seen many elite talents at receiver in their early years. I haven't been a huge fan of Phillips as a head coach, so I figured it was worth a few minutes to look up some names.I still am mostly prepared to pass this off as typical coach speak and preseason hype, just like the soon to be forthcoming statements from guys saying that they will catch 100 passes, hit 2,000 yards, will get 350 carries this year, etc.I don't think there is a lot to uncover in a 3 day rookie minicamp, but I guess that's better than if Bryant hung out at strip clubs and got involved in a beat down somewhere.

 

[lord_helmet]

/thread

Thanks, mod

 

[Mustang Man]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

 

[David Yudkin]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

 

[TheFanatic]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

David, you keep getting hooked here. It's time to close this hissy fit of a thread and move on...

 

[David Yudkin]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

David, you keep getting hooked here. It's time to close this hissy fit of a thread and move on...

Not much going on at the moment. Maybe people will get their whining out early on this year. As you saidm nothing really to see hear, time to move on . . .

 

[lord_helmet]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."

I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

Their position, not that position. But whatever

 

[lord_helmet]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

David, you keep getting hooked here. It's time to close this hissy fit of a thread and move on...

Not sure what your agenda is here, but if I were you I'd ditch the "he showed up out of shape" angle.

 

[Mello]

I would take anything Wade Phillips says in public about players with a big grain of salt. I can't remember him ever saying much negative about a player. I also wouldn't take Phillips' opinion of an offensive player as the final word, even if he was truthful. When Parcells was here, I could usually read between the lines to get an idea of what he thought.

 

[werdnoynek]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

David, you keep getting hooked here. It's time to close this hissy fit of a thread and move on...

Not sure what your agenda is here, but if I were you I'd ditch the "he showed up out of shape" angle.

it may also be advisable to stop trying to spin every bit of negative news on the kid into something positive. he was drafted less than two weeks ago... might get a bit tiring.

 

[David Yudkin]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."

I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

Their position, not that position. But whatever

We are likely saying the same thing. WR vs all WRs. DE vs all DEs. PK vs all PKs. Bryant looked like one of the best of all the rookie WRs Phillips has seen.For example, a guy could have been the best rookie PK and he was leaps and bounds above the other kickers. That doesn't mean he was the best player ever in camp . . . only that he was the best at his position. But would a PK really be in the same conversation with greatest player at all positions? Probably not.

Or put another way. Over the years, Phillips could have seen 5 future HOF or All Pro linebackers. They were all in the mix as "best ever LB." Bryant looked better than all the other WRs . . . making him look the best advantage wise compared to the LBers because there wasn't only one that stood out. Bryant stood out the most AT HIS POSITION.

 

[Reacher]

It's not blowing something out of proportion to point out a bad post. Just say, yup they screwed up. Thanks for enlightening us on the facts of the article and move on. Don't stop and try to polish it.

Going on and on like this is definitely blowing something out of proportion. So far the guy has had a single mini camp and you are losing your mind of some very minor, yet accurate comment on the guy in the beginning of May. Just wait till he drops a pass in a preseason game, you know, when it counts, and he gets some criticism. Your head will explode...

Losing his mind? The guy made a good point that the information that they posted was misleading and posted the real picture of the minicamp and people jumped him. Take the time to post good information. If it is pointless information then don't report on it.

 

[lord_helmet]

[stop trying to spin

In fact thats all we ask, thanks.

 

[lord_helmet]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."

I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

Their position, not that position. But whatever

We are likely saying the same thing. WR vs all WRs. DE vs all DEs. PK vs all PKs. Bryant looked like one of the best of all the rookie WRs Phillips has seen.For example, a guy could have been the best rookie PK and he was leaps and bounds above the other kickers. That doesn't mean he was the best player ever in camp . . . only that he was the best at his position. But would a PK really be in the same conversation with greatest player at all positions? Probably not.

Or put another way. Over the years, Phillips could have seen 5 future HOF or All Pro linebackers. They were all in the mix as "best ever LB." Bryant looked better than all the other WRs . . . making him look the best advantage wise compared to the LBers because there wasn't only one that stood out. Bryant stood out the most AT HIS POSITION.

You could certainly be right, but thats not how I read it. I got the impression that Phillips was saying that based on the 3 day camp, Bryant is one the most impressive players he's seen in 33 years of coaching.Could I be wrong? Most certainly, but thats what I got from it.

 

[TheFanatic]

In the Phillips quote it didnt say receivers, it said players. fwiw

Nice call, that makes a big difference. Cause I am sure Wade has seen some pretty accomplished rookie defenders coming into a rookie mini camp and looking real good.

I still say this one is open to debate and interpretation. He said Bryant was one of the best at his position. His position is WR."There aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position."I take that to be different than if he said, "There aren't very many that I can say ever looked better than Bryant did . . . at ANY position."

David, you keep getting hooked here. It's time to close this hissy fit of a thread and move on...

Not sure what your agenda is here, but if I were you I'd ditch the "he showed up out of shape" angle.

I'm going to ditch the entire thread. I know I'm getting hooked right now, but I gotta say it. All kinds of mini camps this weekend and I don't remember any other report of any rookies puking on the sideline. Or any of the other Dallas rookies puking. Must've only been the Dallas WR coach of all the other coaches in the league that pushed the rookies beyond the breaking point. Or it could be that he spent too much time pushing weight and didn't work on his cardio? Could be he didn't work enough on his flexibility over the last 7 months which led to the ankle betting tweaked? Was it Irvin or Deion that specifically said to cut the kid a break because he hadn't played a game in 7 months? Did he say that because in the last 7 months he kept himself in game shape? Why else would he make that statement? Would he make that statement if Dez was in game shape? Troll some more. I'm done here...

 

[David Yudkin]

You could certainly be right, but thats not how I read it. I got the impression that Phillips was saying that based on the 3 day camp, Bryant is one the most impressive players he's seen in 33 years of coaching.Could I be wrong? Most certainly, but thats what I got from it.

As I said, open to interpretation and the way it was said could be interpreted different ways. I agree the end result is he liked him and that he was a bright spot from 30 some odd years of coaching. Coach speak, but slightly more believable than the guys who come out and say this is the year PLAYER X will aproach 2,000 yards rushing and then don't even have a starting tailback job by October. I wouldn't slot Bryant for the HOF just yet, though, based on 3 days of rookie camp.

 

[werdnoynek]

[stop trying to spin

In fact thats all we ask, thanks.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I'm going to ditch the entire thread. I know I'm getting hooked right now, but I gotta say it. All kinds of mini camps this weekend and I don't remember any other report of any rookies puking on the sideline. Or any of the other Dallas rookies puking. Must've only been the Dallas WR coach of all the other coaches in the league that pushed the rookies beyond the breaking point. Or it could be that he spent too much time pushing weight and didn't work on his cardio? Could be he didn't work enough on his flexibility over the last 7 months which led to the ankle betting tweaked? Was it Irvin or Deion that specifically said to cut the kid a break because he hadn't played a game in 7 months? Did he say that because in the last 7 months he kept himself in game shape? Why else would he make that statement? Would he make that statement if Dez was in game shape? Troll some more. I'm done here...

Actually, Joe McKnight did. But that's not even the point of this thread.

 

[Buffaloes]

Two pages, eh?

Welp, see ya later!

 

[Mustang Man]

OK here is the quote that makes it easy to see he was not comparing Dez to just wr's he was comparing his talents at his position to all other players he has seen in any position. Not sure why it is so hard to understand.

"Dez Bryant is an absolute talent," Phillips said. "You don't get to be around many players that come in and look that good that early. It's been 33 years, and there aren't very many that I can say look that talented at their position for a three-day period. We're pleased with him. And he was on time for everything, too."

he said there aren't very many I can say looked that talented at THEIR POSITION for a 3 day period. Not sure it's so hard to see he was not comparing this dude to just other wr's he was comparing his talent at his position to all other players coming into rookie camp at any position.

Anyway nothing to see here. Barring injury DEZ will be a stud.

 

[fatness]

You could certainly be right, but thats not how I read it. I got the impression that Phillips was saying that based on the 3 day camp, Bryant is one the most impressive players he's seen in 33 years of coaching.

That's the way I take what Bryant said as well.FBG could have included what the player's coach said in their blurb but they didn't.

 

[Desert_Power]

I feel dumber for reading this thread. Pointless.

 

[jurb26]

2 pages and going? Seriously guys.... wow. I know May is down time but come on.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

man people are sensitive

I'd say you're the one being sensitive. I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys. And you're rushing to their defense as if I've run over Joe Bryant's dog or something.

It is a rough start. That doesn't mean he's not going to be great or anything like that. He puked one day and the next day he rolled his ankle, that's a rough start. It's not a rough start because he doesn't have the talent or can't take it at the pro level, it's just the way it is. He rolled an ankle and puked it up. That may have happened to a few guys, the last several days and it's not a story but when you're the Cowboy's No. 1 draft pick, it comes with the territory.

 

[Reacher]

man people are sensitive

I'd say you're the one being sensitive. I simply pointed out what I think is a sensationalistic and/or incomplete, perhaps uninformed opinion being thrown out by Footballguys. And you're rushing to their defense as if I've run over Joe Bryant's dog or something.

It is a rough start. That doesn't mean he's not going to be great or anything like that. He puked one day and the next day he rolled his ankle, that's a rough start. It's not a rough start because he doesn't have the talent or can't take it at the pro level, it's just the way it is. He rolled an ankle and puked it up. That may have happened to a few guys, the last several days and it's not a story but when you're the Cowboy's No. 1 draft pick, it comes with the territory.

If Dez Bryant had a rough start in his first 3 day camp then I wish every player we pick up has the same kind of rough start."All eyes were on Dez Bryant during the Dallas Cowboys' rookie practice Friday. With a considerable amount of media in attendance, Bryant passed his first test with flying colors." Gil Brandt. Just saying. I have been a Footballguys subscriber for a long time and am obviously a fan bit it never hurts to keep the staff on their toes and let them know that lazy effort won't fly, even in the offseason.

 

[Bankerguy]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

 

[Sabertooth]

So for the record. Puking and injury ARE a good start.

 

[B-Deep]

What's scary is that you thought enough of this to look that info up. It's amazing what's getting talked about right now.

I looked it up because I was curious if Phillips had seen many elite talents at receiver in their early years. I haven't been a huge fan of Phillips as a head coach, so I figured it was worth a few minutes to look up some names.I still am mostly prepared to pass this off as typical coach speak and preseason hype, just like the soon to be forthcoming statements from guys saying that they will catch 100 passes, hit 2,000 yards, will get 350 carries this year, etc.

I don't think there is a lot to uncover in a 3 day rookie minicamp, but I guess that's better than if Bryant hung out at strip clubs and got involved in a beat down somewhere.

come on now, lets not go suggesting things to anyone ok?

(not that i think Bryant has any predisposition towards these activities)

 

[B-Deep]

really embarrassed at the thin skinned nature of 'boys fans in here

So FBG says in their comments that puking and twisting his ankle (oh yeah, lets combine that with the hooker comments and new espn news about more recent legal troubles for his mom) this has not been a good start for Dez.

That's all. They did not call him a goon, did not say he sucked, did not say his football talent was lacking, did not say he would bust, did not call his mom a hooker.

If you can honestly say that you would have scripted the first day of practice exactly like this then you are insane.

 

[WVU Alum]

What's scary is that you thought enough of this to look that info up. It's amazing what's getting talked about right now.

I looked it up because I was curious if Phillips had seen many elite talents at receiver in their early years. I haven't been a huge fan of Phillips as a head coach, so I figured it was worth a few minutes to look up some names.I still am mostly prepared to pass this off as typical coach speak and preseason hype, just like the soon to be forthcoming statements from guys saying that they will catch 100 passes, hit 2,000 yards, will get 350 carries this year, etc.I don't think there is a lot to uncover in a 3 day rookie minicamp, but I guess that's better than if Bryant hung out at strip clubs and got involved in a beat down somewhere.

What I got out of all your hard work is that there is a guy named Corn... seriously? WTF were his parents thinking?

 

[werdnoynek]

Isn't this whole "hasn't been a good start" thing really just an attempt by the white man to keep the black man down?

you might have something here... ETA: i just drafted dez despite his rough start... and i'm very excited of what's to come (despite his rough start)

 

[fatness]

What I got out of all your hard work is that there is a guy named Corn... seriously? WTF were his parents thinking?

 

[lord_helmet]

That's all. They did not call him a goon, did not say he sucked, did not say his football talent was lacking, did not say he would bust, did not call his mom a hooker.

It seemed like cherry picking, thats all. They focused on the puking and the non-story ankle and conviently left out the statement from the coach that he came away about as impressed, as he has been in 33 years of coaching based on the 3 day period. Not saying that fbg's are deliberately sensationalist, just that this particular comment was a little too PFT like (which they're normally not).Not sure what you have to be embarrassed about, I like you better when you are funny

 

[lord_helmet]

Isn't this whole "hasn't been a good start" thing really just an attempt by the white man to keep the black man down?

you might have something here... ETA: i just drafted dez despite his rough start... and i'm very excited of what's to come (despite his rough start)

So you wrote it so maybe he'd fall to you in your draft? (I think I'm on to something here)

 

[werdnoynek]

Isn't this whole "hasn't been a good start" thing really just an attempt by the white man to keep the black man down?

you might have something here... ETA: i just drafted dez despite his rough start... and i'm very excited of what's to come (despite his rough start)

So you wrote it so maybe he'd fall to you in your draft? (I think I'm on to something here)

... this thread couldn't have come at a better time regardless if it was a rough start or not, this kid is going to be a stud imo. it wouldn't suprise me if he's already written into the #2 spot, soon to supplant mr. austin at #1. how soon is the question.

 

[Tyrion]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

I agree. But their job is to communicate it to their subscribers so that they know what is going on. I read those comments when I don't have time to do my own research and I expect and want an accurate picture of the situation. If I didn't know the situation I would have been given a false impression of the camp.They did a poor job and a post was made to make the correction by one of their readers. No big deal until everyone jumps him for it, trying to defend Footballguys. I think Footballguys can take the contructive criticism without their sensative defenders getting all upset.

 

[werdnoynek]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

I agree. But their job is to communicate it to their subscribers so that they know what is going on. I read those comments when I don't have time to do my own research and I expect and want an accurate picture of the situation. If I didn't know the situation I would have been given a false impression of the camp.They did a poor job and a post was made to make the correction by one of their readers. No big deal until everyone jumps him for it, trying to defend Footballguys. I think Footballguys can take the contructive criticism without their sensative defenders getting all upset.

here we go again.

 

[Desert_Power]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

I agree. But their job is to communicate it to their subscribers so that they know what is going on. I read those comments when I don't have time to do my own research and I expect and want an accurate picture of the situation. If I didn't know the situation I would have been given a false impression of the camp.They did a poor job and a post was made to make the correction by one of their readers. No big deal until everyone jumps him for it, trying to defend Footballguys. I think Footballguys can take the contructive criticism without their sensative defenders getting all upset.

 

[B-Deep]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

I agree. But their job is to communicate it to their subscribers so that they know what is going on. I read those comments when I don't have time to do my own research and I expect and want an accurate picture of the situation. If I didn't know the situation I would have been given a false impression of the camp.They did a poor job and a post was made to make the correction by one of their readers. No big deal until everyone jumps him for it, trying to defend Footballguys. I think Footballguys can take the contructive criticism without their sensative defenders getting all upset.

 

[TheFanatic]

It was a poor choice of wording for the blurb...but I believe the staff here at FBG's know what's going on.

I agree. But their job is to communicate it to their subscribers so that they know what is going on. I read those comments when I don't have time to do my own research and I expect and want an accurate picture of the situation. If I didn't know the situation I would have been given a false impression of the camp.They did a poor job and a post was made to make the correction by one of their readers. No big deal until everyone jumps him for it, trying to defend Footballguys. I think Footballguys can take the contructive criticism without their sensative defenders getting all upset.

really embarrassed at the thin skinned nature of 'boys fans in here

Other cowboy fans are pointing at you and laughing. When you are an embarrassment to other Cowboy fans you are really doing a great job making a fool of yourself.

 

[Don Quixote]

What's scary is that you thought enough of this to look that info up. It's amazing what's getting talked about right now.

I looked it up because I was curious if Phillips had seen many elite talents at receiver in their early years. I haven't been a huge fan of Phillips as a head coach, so I figured it was worth a few minutes to look up some names.I still am mostly prepared to pass this off as typical coach speak and preseason hype, just like the soon to be forthcoming statements from guys saying that they will catch 100 passes, hit 2,000 yards, will get 350 carries this year, etc.I don't think there is a lot to uncover in a 3 day rookie minicamp, but I guess that's better than if Bryant hung out at strip clubs and got involved in a beat down somewhere.

Missing from your list, but I think Rod Smith's rookie year was with Wade Phillips -- but he was just a practice squad guy.

 

[David Yudkin]

Missing from your list, but I think Rod Smith's rookie year was with Wade Phillips -- but he was just a practice squad guy.

Smith was a rookie in 1995, the first year Phillips was in Buffalo.

 

[Don Quixote]

Missing from your list, but I think Rod Smith's rookie year was with Wade Phillips -- but he was just a practice squad guy.

Smith was a rookie in 1995, the first year Phillips was in Buffalo.

He was a 1994 UFA. He did not accumulate stats until 1995 because he was on practice squad.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Smith_(American_football)

 

[David Yudkin]

Missing from your list, but I think Rod Smith's rookie year was with Wade Phillips -- but he was just a practice squad guy.

Smith was a rookie in 1995, the first year Phillips was in Buffalo.

He was a 1994 UFA. He did not accumulate stats until 1995 because he was on practice squad.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Smith_(American_football)

Goes to show you what I know . . .

 

[Joe Bryant]

seriouslyyou guys are making us all look badfor whatever its worth the reports are he was puking and twisted his ankle, which are not a good way to startit does not mean anything, if he lit the world on fire it also would not mean anything, this is rookie campnews is slow, take it for what it is, and don't be so damn sensitive

/thread

Agreed, B and werd. Throwing up and twisting an ankle is a rough start. It's also one that doesn't bother me. That's kind of why we said, "It's a long way from the start of the season, so this rough start doesn't bother us."Bryant will be fine and I expect him to maybe even be very good.But what we won't have is the back and forth catfight stuff this thread is full of. Discuss Dez Bryant in a cool way if you want to. But do not use the Shark Pool to go back and forth with little jabs to each other about Footballguys. This forum is for NFL talk. TIA.J