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Holmes Practices..... (1 Viewer)

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Just caught a snippet on the radio with John Clayton, he said...."Holmes can't be ruled out for Sunday yet, he was able to go a bit at practice today."He said the same thing about Edge in Indy......

 
:) If he indeed did practice a little today then I believe DV was telling the truth and theres nothing more to this story than a mild sprain. Also is he's moving on it now from what I understand about sprains he should be good to go Sunday.It seems that when DV said "we are planning this game as if Priest will be there" he meant it.
 
Thank you! Finally an update.Now what worries me is that he is going to become the dreaded game time decision and I'll start the wrong person with him and Blaylock. :wall:

 
I go against Holmes this week and was hoping he'd miss the game. I guess the best I can hope for is Houston getting up big early and Holmes seeing limited action.

 
Nothing would make me happier than if Priest was able to go - I only have him in one league, and it is a survivor league, but I used mylast roster spot in a couple leagues on Blaylock - I'd love to release him after this week and pick up someone with more potential.

 
I'm actually thinking of starting Holmes and Blaylock....I've got CMart on a bye. Blaylock generally gets his share of carries anyway and even if Priest goes he might get spelled more often and if they are up big, Blaylock could produce some good numbers during mop up time. My other option is Gordon, but right now I'm leaning toward starting both Holmes and Blaylock...this is similar to the thread about starting 2 WR's from the same team.Anyone else considering this.

 
Chiefs | Holmes Unlikely to Play - from www.KFFL.comWed, 22 Sep 2004 16:07:17 -0700Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs RB Priest Holmes (ankle) did not practice Wednesday, Sept. 22, and is unlikely to play in Week 3 against the Houston Texans.

 
Charch from fanball was just on the radio here and said Holmes has the dreaded high ankle sprain and to double however long they say Holmes will be out. He also thought Johnson was the better handcuff, not blaylock. This is the first I've heard of a high ankle sprain for priest. I also don't know how much charch is regarded for providing information.

 
The KC Star needs to get its reporters together and arrive at consensus. This is from the KC Star today by Ivan Carter:

CHIEFS NOTES: Holmes update

The Kansas City Star

Running back Priest Holmes will be listed as questionable on the Chiefs' mid-week injury report after suffering an ankle sprain and slight knee strain on the same fourth-quarter play against Carolina on Sunday.

Holmes received treatment on Tuesday, the players' day off, and will continue to be evaluated throughout the week.

“What it amounts to is how long it takes for the ankle to feel comfortable to go back to work on,” Chiefs coach **** Vermeil said. “It's not a severe ankle sprain. I haven't talked to Priest this morning but he's in there getting treatment. I think we have to list him at questionable. If he wasn't able to go Derrick Blaylock would start and Larry Johnson would be ready to go. … But right now, we're preparing as though Priest Holmes is going to be ready to play.”
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Gosh, this started as such a positive thread (for a Priest owner) but now I'm just as in the dark as I was before.

 
I don't know if I would pick up LJ instead of Blaylock.See this link ****'s Diapers Comment
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More discussion of that comment today, including this from Vermeil:
Q: If Priest can’t play will Derrick (Blaylock) start?VERMEIL: “Derrick will start and Larry will play. We’re preparing Larry to play and I told Larry on the field today, ‘get your butt ready to play.’ It’s not fair in some way if Larry has to go because it’s a different kind of scheme. It’s a ‘30’ defensive scheme with four linebackers and three down linemen. It’s tough running an inexperienced player to get ready to play. Not run, but for pass protection purposes and the schemes we use in pass protection. I just asked him to put some pressure on himself.”
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SPORTSLINE QUOTEAccording to the Kansas City Star, Chiefs running back Priest Holmes (ankle) was unable to practice on Wednesday and is unlikely to play in Week 3 against the Houston Texans. (Updated 09/22/2004).

 
SPORTSLINE QUOTEAccording to the Kansas City Star, Chiefs running back Priest Holmes (ankle) was unable to practice on Wednesday and is unlikely to play in Week 3 against the Houston Texans. (Updated 09/22/2004).
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Yes, yes, now everyone is quoting that Teicher clown which formulated HIS OWN OPINION ( a stupid one at that simply based on Holmes not practicing for ONE DAY!).
 
BUMP!!What did they show?
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They made no mention of if he practiced or not today. Just mentioned that he was Questionable. Then they went into a 3 minute back and forth between DV and LJ over the stupid "take off your diaper" comment.At this point, if you combine all of the info we have gotten today, I don't think we are any closer to knowing if Priest will play or not than we were yesterday. Nothing but a bunch of unreliable, opinionated and conflicting reports.
 
Edited to add: Never mind. Looks like someone already posted this.Here is Sportsline's take (not that they have ever proved to be much of a reliable source in the past) although it appears to be based solely on the Star's report....

Priest Holmes, RB KCNews: According to the Kansas City Star, Chiefs running back Priest Holmes (ankle) was unable to practice on Wednesday and is unlikely to play in Week 3 against the Houston Texans. Analysis: Not good news. Looks like Derrick Blaylock will start in his place unless the outlook gets better for Priest's ankle.
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I don't know if I would pick up LJ instead of Blaylock.See this link ****'s Diapers Comment
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I had a roster spot and actually picked LJ up (the Priest owner already has Blaylock) BECAUSE of that comment :eek: Just intuition... we'll see what happens.btw, I had Priest for 3 straight years on our redraft (took the title last year), and I can relate to what it feels like wondering if he will play. I love the guy, and I hope he does play (at least I am not playing his owner this week).
 
Some more confusing comments on kcchiefs.com from today's Q&A with DV:

Q: Larry Johnson heard your comment yesterday. Have you talked to him about that?

VERMEIL: “No. I said it in jest but if a head coach makes a sarcastic response then he probably get some sort of sarcastic response back. Doesn’t bother me. I don’t put any restrictions on what these kids can say. Maybe he will continue to grow because he’s got some pressure on him now because if Priest doesn’t play he’s going to be carrying a load. It’s a lot of responsibility. So far, he has a way to go to prove that he can handle it and I’m looking forward to giving him the opportunity if Priest can’t play.”

Q: If Priest can’t play will Derrick (Blaylock) start?

VERMEIL: “Derrick will start and Larry will play. We’re preparing Larry to play and I told Larry on the field today, ‘get your butt ready to play.’ It’s not fair in some way if Larry has to go because it’s a different kind of scheme. It’s a ‘30’ defensive scheme with four linebackers and three down linemen. It’s tough running an inexperienced player to get ready to play. Not run, but for pass protection purposes and the schemes we use in pass protection. I just asked him to put some pressure on himself.”

Q: Do you think that the knowledge that you may have wanted a defensive player in the draft – no disrespect to Larry – may have contributed to his attitude?

VERMEIL: “No, I think the only thing that contributed to Larry’s attitude is not being able to play. The kid wants to play football badly. He loves to play. But in this league they just don’t automatically retire Priest Holmes. Like I said to Larry one day, you got here and you made Derrick Blaylock a better football player. Now, Derrick Blaylock has got to make you a better football player. I’m sure it will. It’s a matter of time. But this is not Ohio State. It’s not Penn State. It’s the National Football League and he has all the talent in the world. Sooner or later he’ll have his opportunity to take advantage of it. Hopefully, we never lose Priest Holmes.”
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Just to re-iterate.....at 4:10 CDT I heard Clayton say Holmes did "a bit" at practice today......what "a bit" means, I dont know, but I doubt Clayton is blowing smoke up everyones arsses.....

 
:thumbup: looks more and more like LJ will get his chance. I just scooped him up and may start him over reshard lee. Its funny how houston now has more FF weapons.
 
Then they went into a 3 minute back and forth between DV and LJ over the stupid "take off your diaper" comment.
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Just an aside, I thought the diaper comment was funny - and LJ's reaction aint gonna get him on the field any faster:Wet Diaper
 
:thumbup: looks more and more like LJ will get his chance. I just scooped him up and may start him over reshard lee. Its funny how houston now has more FF weapons.
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exactly what in this tread makes it look like LJ will get his chance? If anything, the situation is murky as ever.
 
exactly what in this tread makes it look like LJ will get his chance? If anything, the situation is murky as ever.
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Exactly, it looks to me as though if Priest can't go then they'll start Blaylock who is smart, experienced and very speedy, and throw a couple of carries to LJ just to stop him getting too distraught.
 
Blaylock will be the smart pick up this week. LJ has never performed up to his draft slot, and will be at best a 3rd down pick. :cry:

 
I am also contemplating starting Priest and Blaylock. My other choices, Wheatley, Larry Johnson, and Mike Bennett are not so appealing.

 
Just to re-iterate.....at 4:10 CDT I heard Clayton say Holmes did "a bit" at practice today......what "a bit" means, I dont know, but I doubt Clayton is blowing smoke up everyones arsses.....
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How about a sanity check?! Its not whether Clayton, Vermeil or Teicher are "blowing smoke up anyone's arses". Have you ever been sick or hurt? Did you know exactly how you would feel 4 days out? I didn't expect to know anything about Priest definitively on Thursday morning. Lets start to really worry on Saturday evening if this thing isn't more clear.In the meantime...

People You Cannot Trust on Holmes' Status:

1. Priest Holmes

2. **** Vermeil

3. Adam Teicher (or the whole KC Star Staff)

4. John Clayton

5. The Shark Pool

6. Your mom

7. Your dog

Why? Cause no body really knows yet. AND, none of the above care a whit about FF implications. Yeah, its true, Vermeil isn't worried about your lineup decisions. Its possible that either they really don't know (esp. Clayton and Teicher) or they don't want to say (esp. Vermeil, Priest).

 
Lets be honest, the only way people are going to fill comfortable is if Priest, Vermeil and the Chiefs came out and said, 'syc, Priest is 100% and we were just pulling your leg.' Or maybe this would even open the door to more questions like, "Are they lying?"Needless to say, if you have any interest in Priest this weekend, any information on Sunday morning is going to be 10x more valuable than any information today.* Going back to Onterrio\Bennett threads to stir that pot.

 
exactly what in this tread makes it look like LJ will get his chance? If anything, the situation is murky as ever.
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This is what makes it look like LJ will not only get carries, but he'll get a lot of them (From NJ's Post):
Q: Larry Johnson heard your comment yesterday. Have you talked to him about that?

VERMEIL: “No. I said it in jest but if a head coach makes a sarcastic response then he probably get some sort of sarcastic response back. Doesn’t bother me. I don’t put any restrictions on what these kids can say. Maybe he will continue to grow because he’s got some pressure on him now because if Priest doesn’t play he’s going to be carrying a load. It’s a lot of responsibility. So far, he has a way to go to prove that he can handle it and I’m looking forward to giving him the opportunity if Priest can’t play.”
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I'll go one step further than CowboyJay here.

Teicher is a "Priest Basher" and nothing he says has any merit, period.

If Clayton has stated that Priest was on the field under any capacity, then he was. Clayton has nothing to gain by lying about it. Whether this translates to Priest playing on Sunday is not really relevant yet with nearly 4 days until game time. Whether he plays or not is dependent upon how or if he continues to heal up.

Neither Holmes or Vermeil has anything to gain by playing their cards until they have to with regards to the injury. As long as they report things under the NFL guidelines they should not provide anymore information. Unfortunately for our FF activities this is un-nerving, but it is a strategic necessity for both of them.

There has been absolutely no press or quotations presented on our threads this week from Priest himself ... a bit curious to me Alice ...

Conflicting reports have stated that the Chiefs are preparing for his absence and for his presence. This is certainly confusing ...

In closing, I would say that Holmes is a WARRIOR. If he can walk, then he will play and he will play well. If this is a "mild" sprain as the Chief's medical status portrays and as Vermeil has stated "is not serious", then I will go out on a limb and say that Holmes will play and he will play well. If the report is false and the injury is more serious, then there are more serious problems in KC!

 
In the meantime...

People You Cannot Trust on Holmes' Status:

1. Priest Holmes

2. **** Vermeil

3. Adam Teicher (or the whole KC Star Staff)

4. John Clayton

5. The Shark Pool

6. Your mom

7. Your dog
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Hey now. My dog has never told me a lie. My mom did once. She said I was the most handsome boy in class when I really wasn't.You leave my dog alone!

 
One other thought. It's not unprecedented for a coach to throw off the other team's preparation by throwing up smoke screens. As a Priest owner, I'm hoping he'll still be able to go, but I'm not holding my breath. :no:

 
What a mess. I HAVE to start Holmes in 1 league because Martin & Henry are on bye. I could start LJ or Dayne in another :wall:

 
If Clayton has stated that Priest was on the field under any capacity, then he was.
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This is the sticky point. This could mean Priest suited up and took most of the reps with the first team or it could mean he suited up and stood next to Vermeil all day with a boot on his ankle.
 
I agree with you BlueOnion that it is a "sticky point", but I see no benefit to Holmes or to his team in having him standing on an injury wasting his time.If he is seriously injured, then elevation to reduce swelling, ice, electro-shock to stimulate nerve activity, etc. all of these make more sense as a treatment plan than Holmes standing around giving hugs to Vermeil.It may have just been jogging, it may have been just stretching, riding a stationary bike, it may have been some drills ... We do know from another report that he DID NOT participate in the 11 X 11 drills and that is about all ...I still go out on a limb and say that if his injury is indeed "mild", then he plays and plays well.

 
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