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[Jene Bramel]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

 

[ClownDogs]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

I thought maybe you were leaving the offers out there cause u are still thinking about them?

 

[fruity pebbles]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

I thought maybe you were leaving the offers out there cause u are still thinking about them?

You go ahead and think that shortbus

 

[comfortably numb]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

I thought maybe you were leaving the offers out there cause u are still thinking about them?

You go ahead and think that shortbus

I have a great offer out to Mr. Bramel now...

 

[Ned]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

I thought maybe you were leaving the offers out there cause u are still thinking about them?

You go ahead and think that shortbus

 

[Jene Bramel]

Feel a little left out in all these deals, though I'm not sure I trust my tiers enough in a deep, strong league drafting this early to be making some of these moves. If the opportunity arises, I'm much more likely to be active during the draft.

I thought maybe you were leaving the offers out there cause u are still thinking about them?

I have a great offer out to Mr. Bramel now...

ETA: Stupid spam folder. Weird that I've gotten emails on the trades that went through (I guess not all of them), but none of the proposals. I'll look at those on the table tonight.

 

[Sinrman]

Man, this type of league is right up my alley.... wish there was a spot :whoosh:

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

 

[comfortably numb]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

You are very right, but when we did our Red Dog start up, just to give you an idea.I had no 1st RD pickand my 1st pick in the 2nd RD was Cadillac WilliamsI went undefeated that year.I got very lucky as a few of my later RD value guys hit, and i made some very lucky and great timing trades.I guess I am thinking I can come close to duplicating that, or at least I sure as hell hope I can.

 

[ClownDogs]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

You are very right, but when we did our Red Dog start up, just to give you an idea.I had no 1st RD pickand my 1st pick in the 2nd RD was Cadillac WilliamsI went undefeated that year.I got very lucky as a few of my later RD value guys hit, and i made some very lucky and great timing trades.I guess I am thinking I can come close to duplicating that, or at least I sure as hell hope I can.

Ohhhh, LOOK AT ME.....UNDEFEATED......No 1st is tough, but doesn't really kill u if you think u can outdraft 15 other great owners....

 

[fruity pebbles]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

Will be interesting to see how the teams of Rodney and Carlos shape up in particular. They used opposite approaches going into the draft. Rodney has two top 1sts and a late 2nd. Then he doesnt have another pick until the 6th. Carlos doesn;t have a pick until the end of the 2nd round but he has a couple 2nds and a couple 3rds.

 

[comfortably numb]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

Will be interesting to see how the teams of Rodney and Carlos shape up in particular. They used opposite approaches going into the draft. Rodney has two top 1sts and a late 2nd. Then he doesnt have another pick until the 6th. Carlos doesn;t have a pick until the end of the 2nd round but he has a couple 2nds and a couple 3rds.

Either way...1.1 is mine!

 

[ClownDogs]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

Will be interesting to see how the teams of Rodney and Carlos shape up in particular. They used opposite approaches going into the draft. Rodney has two top 1sts and a late 2nd. Then he doesnt have another pick until the 6th. Carlos doesn;t have a pick until the end of the 2nd round but he has a couple 2nds and a couple 3rds.

Either way...1.1 is mine!

yea, but some of us dont' worry about 2011 picks.......I just dealt 1.06/11.13 for 1.04/21.04. Gets me to the 1.04 spot on which there are many differnt ways to go with that pick.. I am guaranteed a STUD rb at least, and can take QB1 or WR1 if i choose. Good spot.

 

[jhexel]

I hate losing 1.5, and not picking until 2.10, but

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

Will be interesting to see how the teams of Rodney and Carlos shape up in particular. They used opposite approaches going into the draft. Rodney has two top 1sts and a late 2nd. Then he doesnt have another pick until the 6th. Carlos doesn;t have a pick until the end of the 2nd round but he has a couple 2nds and a couple 3rds.

Either way...1.1 is mine!

yea, but some of us dont' worry about 2011 picks.......I just dealt 1.06/11.13 for 1.04/21.04. Gets me to the 1.04 spot on which there are many differnt ways to go with that pick.. I am guaranteed a STUD rb at least, and can take QB1 or WR1 if i choose. Good spot.

If you're OK with getting either a stud WR or stud QB - why not sit back at 1.06 and take what's left for you rather than pay a rather hefty price (IMO) to move up 2 spots if you're still not sure what you want to do with 1.04?

 

[ClownDogs]

yea, but some of us dont' worry about 2011 picks.......

I just dealt 1.06/11.13 for 1.04/21.04. Gets me to the 1.04 spot on which there are many differnt ways to go with that pick.. I am guaranteed a STUD rb at least, and can take QB1 or WR1 if i choose. Good spot.

If you're OK with getting either a stud WR or stud QB - why not sit back at 1.06 and take what's left for you rather than pay a rather hefty price (IMO) to move up 2 spots if you're still not sure what you want to do with 1.04?

Oh i know what i want to do with it, but as a "salesman", isn' it better to pitch to others that they have the power to choose what THEY want?

i know who i wanted at 1.06 and they weren't gonna be there, i know what i can get at 1.04 and what i will take IF i keep this pick, but 1.04 has a decetn amount more value, imho, than 1.06 since u can decide on what you wnat to do, not sit and wait for others.

 

[jhexel]

I just dealt 1.06/11.13 for 1.04/21.04. Gets me to the 1.04 spot on which there are many differnt ways to go with that pick.. I am guaranteed a STUD rb at least, and can take QB1 or WR1 if i choose. Good spot.

If you're OK with getting either a stud WR or stud QB - why not sit back at 1.06 and take what's left for you rather than pay a rather hefty price (IMO) to move up 2 spots if you're still not sure what you want to do with 1.04?

Oh i know what i want to do with it, but as a "salesman", isn' it better to pitch to others that they have the power to choose what THEY want?

i know who i wanted at 1.06 and they weren't gonna be there, i know what i can get at 1.04 and what i will take IF i keep this pick, but 1.04 has a decetn amount more value, imho, than 1.06 since u can decide on what you wnat to do, not sit and wait for others.

Good point...seems to be plenty of guys in this league who like to be "sold"...

 

[ClownDogs]

More than u would think.....

 

[Dave Baker]

A lot of action for a league that won't draft for another two months. Seems like it's been a while since I drafted a dynasty league. Looking forward to it.

 

[comfortably numb]

A lot of action for a league that won't draft for another two months. Seems like it's been a while since I drafted a dynasty league. Looking forward to it.

Is there a hung jury on the trade offer i have for you guys?

 

[Dave Baker]

A lot of action for a league that won't draft for another two months. Seems like it's been a while since I drafted a dynasty league. Looking forward to it.

Is there a hung jury on the trade offer i have for you guys?

Which team are you?

 

[comfortably numb]

A lot of action for a league that won't draft for another two months. Seems like it's been a while since I drafted a dynasty league. Looking forward to it.

Is there a hung jury on the trade offer i have for you guys?

Which team are you?

I'm Caitlyn.You already responded.Thank you

 

[Acrobat7]

 

[Ned]

I'm not sure that's the best strategy in a start up dynasty. I think a top five picks gives you that "sure thing" stud to build your team around. I will refrain from naming names (although we are all very likely aware of those names), but you are going to miss out on a young stud WR or RB that could be the centerpiece of your team and instead fill in with second or third teir very good players - that you could acquire easier in other ways.

Not syaing that you shot yourself in the foot or anything, but just trying to get some discussion. Good luck.

Will be interesting to see how the teams of Rodney and Carlos shape up in particular. They used opposite approaches going into the draft. Rodney has two top 1sts and a late 2nd. Then he doesnt have another pick until the 6th. Carlos doesn;t have a pick until the end of the 2nd round but he has a couple 2nds and a couple 3rds.

Either way...1.1 is mine!

yea, but some of us dont' worry about 2011 picks.......I just dealt 1.06/11.13 for 1.04/21.04. Gets me to the 1.04 spot on which there are many differnt ways to go with that pick.. I am guaranteed a STUD rb at least, and can take QB1 or WR1 if i choose. Good spot.

If you're OK with getting either a stud WR or stud QB - why not sit back at 1.06 and take what's left for you rather than pay a rather hefty price (IMO) to move up 2 spots if you're still not sure what you want to do with 1.04?

That's exactly why I moved down. I will gladly take the table scraps at 1.06, as it's all interchangeable from 4-6. Move down 2 spots and get a 10rd bump later on for basically the same valued player. Easy choice, IMO.

 

[ClownDogs]

Woodshop Bachman gave up 1.04; 3.01; 6.16; 10.16

Jene Bramel gave up Year 1.11; 2.06; 5.11; 7.11

So by me dealing my 1.06 in that earlier deal to get 1.04, it made my negotiations alot easeir to sell using the TOP RB route. So moving up imo "sold"(as one poster said) Bramel on a RB and i still get what i wanted plus more.

Will get my guy at 1.11, moved up to 2.06 and get two later bumps. Seemed too good to pass up for my draft plans.

More to come...........

 

[comfortably numb]

....and I am back into the 1st RD

Caitlyn Rodrigues gave up:

Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10

Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.12

Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.12

Nick Chadick gave up:

Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.06

Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.14

Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from Nick Chadick

There will be good value at 2.10/2.12, but I really feel the tier of value drops off after 6-7 range.

This will allow me to have some more fliexability to trade back/up or make whatever value plays I see fit.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

And a big one goes dowmI give1.514.1217.05for2.103.072011 1st

....and I am back into the 1st RDCaitlyn Rodrigues gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.12Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.12Nick Chadick gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.06Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.14Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from Nick ChadickThere will be good value at 2.10/2.12, but I really feel the tier of value drops off after 6-7 range.This will allow me to have some more fliexability to trade back/up or make whatever value plays I see fit.

Talk about not being able to make up your mind...

 

[ClownDogs]

....and I am back into the 1st RDCaitlyn Rodrigues gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.12Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.12Nick Chadick gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.06Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.14Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from Nick ChadickThere will be good value at 2.10/2.12, but I really feel the tier of value drops off after 6-7 range.This will allow me to have some more fliexability to trade back/up or make whatever value plays I see fit.

Maybe u should put what u got for 1.05 then what u paid for 1.06 to see how bad u messed up? Could be fun

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

usually it costs a LOT more than this to move into the top 2. With the round and a half pick bump you threw in, you gave up a lot more than Baker/Magaw. a six pick bump in the 2nd and a 10 pick bump in the 6th/7th is relatively insignificant compared to the difference between the #2 and #8 overall pick. On top of that, you threw in a significant bump in the top 175 picks. With the differences in our boards, Im not even sure you get a player more than one or two slots higher on your board with your bumps, but I am sure you are giving up at least 3-4 slots on your board in the first and 6-8 slots on your board in the 9th-10th. Wish I had known the move was that cheap, I would have paid a lot more than that for the right to pick 2nd.

 

[comfortably numb]

....and I am back into the 1st RDCaitlyn Rodrigues gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.10Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.12Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.12Nick Chadick gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.06Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.14Year 2011 Round 4 Draft Pick from Nick ChadickThere will be good value at 2.10/2.12, but I really feel the tier of value drops off after 6-7 range.This will allow me to have some more fliexability to trade back/up or make whatever value plays I see fit.

Maybe u should put what u got for 1.05 then what u paid for 1.06 to see how bad u messed up? Could be fun

basically i dropped from 1.05 to 1.06I gave 2.10i dropped from 2.12 to 3.07and I traded 10.1214.1217.05for7.14and 2011 1stOuch that looks horrible. At the end of the day with my 3 deals so far I look like1.063.053.074.125.057.057.148.129.05(no 10th, 14th and 17th picks)(3) 2001 1sts

 

[comfortably numb]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

usually it costs a LOT more than this to move into the top 2. With the round and a half pick bump you threw in, you gave up a lot more than Baker/Magaw. a six pick bump in the 2nd and a 10 pick bump in the 6th/7th is relatively insignificant compared to the difference between the #2 and #8 overall pick. On top of that, you threw in a significant bump in the top 175 picks. With the differences in our boards, Im not even sure you get a player more than one or two slots higher on your board with your bumps, but I am sure you are giving up at least 3-4 slots on your board in the first and 6-8 slots on your board in the 9th-10th. Wish I had known the move was that cheap, I would have paid a lot more than that for the right to pick 2nd.

Have to admit, I thought the price would have been a lot higher as well.

 

[ClownDogs]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

usually it costs a LOT more than this to move into the top 2. With the round and a half pick bump you threw in, you gave up a lot more than Baker/Magaw. a six pick bump in the 2nd and a 10 pick bump in the 6th/7th is relatively insignificant compared to the difference between the #2 and #8 overall pick. On top of that, you threw in a significant bump in the top 175 picks. With the differences in our boards, Im not even sure you get a player more than one or two slots higher on your board with your bumps, but I am sure you are giving up at least 3-4 slots on your board in the first and 6-8 slots on your board in the 9th-10th. Wish I had known the move was that cheap, I would have paid a lot more than that for the right to pick 2nd.

Have to admit, I thought the price would have been a lot higher as well.

Agree....so see borbs, this is probably why carlos has 30 offers out there at a time, sometimes the "crappy" ones stick and people get lucky! Nice deal Bob/Dave.So far, i have made 5 trades and this is what my draft looks like:1.112.063.064.115.116.046.116.126.147.119.0610.11No 11th or 14th. An extra 18th and 21st. Dealt 2011 1st and got the rest of 2011 rookie picks still.As u can see, i like the 6th round value so far.....

 

[Ned]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

usually it costs a LOT more than this to move into the top 2. With the round and a half pick bump you threw in, you gave up a lot more than Baker/Magaw. a six pick bump in the 2nd and a 10 pick bump in the 6th/7th is relatively insignificant compared to the difference between the #2 and #8 overall pick. On top of that, you threw in a significant bump in the top 175 picks. With the differences in our boards, Im not even sure you get a player more than one or two slots higher on your board with your bumps, but I am sure you are giving up at least 3-4 slots on your board in the first and 6-8 slots on your board in the 9th-10th. Wish I had known the move was that cheap, I would have paid a lot more than that for the right to pick 2nd.

Moving up to 1.02 goes against what I want to accomplish in this draft, but I agree. I would've paid this in a heartbeat just to get the future trade value out of 1.02. That seemed like pennies on the dollar, to me.

 

[Getinthemix]

Hot Route Fantasy Football TradeBob Magaw / Dave Baker gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.08Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 6.09Year 2010 Draft Pick 10.09Anthony Borbely gave up:Year 2010 Draft Pick 1.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 2.15Year 2010 Draft Pick 7.02Year 2010 Draft Pick 9.02

I wanted all along to move back from the 1.02 and move up in round 2, and decided on this so I could move back into round 6. The 6.09 is right near where my tiers fall off and since I traded my 6.15 for a 2011 first, I wanted to get back into the 6th, but a little higher. I feel comfortable moving out of the super stud RB spot because I can get a great player here plus I really wanted to move up in round 2.

Did they at least throw in a 12 pack of Michelob Light?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Seems to be a lot of trading just for the sake of trading - NTTAWWT.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

 

[ClownDogs]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

I chalked it up as old age.......I applaud u for man'ing up and admitting it was bad. Most people would try to explain their way out of it saying it was great for them......

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

I chalked it up as old age.......I applaud u for man'ing up and admitting it was bad. Most people would try to explain their way out of it saying it was great for them......

I'm still ok with the trade and if it were this or stay at 1.02, I would trade. But I should have slowed myself down and gotten more.

 

[Sinrj]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

I chalked it up as old age.......I applaud u for man'ing up and admitting it was bad. Most people would try to explain their way out of it saying it was great for them......

I'm still ok with the trade and if it were this or stay at 1.02, I would trade. But I should have slowed myself down and gotten more.

Why? Whats wrong with staying 1.02?

 

[Matt Waldman]

At 1.16 I feel like a guy on the side of the road watching a busy thoroughfare.

Good thing there's beer where I'm lounging...

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

I chalked it up as old age.......I applaud u for man'ing up and admitting it was bad. Most people would try to explain their way out of it saying it was great for them......

I'm still ok with the trade and if it were this or stay at 1.02, I would trade. But I should have slowed myself down and gotten more.

Why? Whats wrong with staying 1.02?

If I remember (or you remind me), I'll explain after the first half of round 1 is drafted. The one thing I don't want to do is discuss any players before they are drafted. But I do have reasons for wanting to move back. Thanks.

 

[Dave Baker]

Our move up to 1.02 was actually based on an offer by Borbs. Bob called me when I was at the doctor's office with my wife and said he had a no-brainer that he wanted to accept. When he explained it to me, I didn't hear the part about Borbs including his 7th. So I told Bob to get another player in the trade to even it up, which probably confused Bob. And Bob has been frustrated with me in the past with my general nature of pushing for more in trades. The doctor came in and I rushed off the phone, only telling Bob to try to get a little something more, hence the additional round and a half bump from 9.02 to 10.9.

In this league, where you can not start more than 3 WRs and you CAN start only 1 RB but to do so you must start a second TE, I liked the thought of getting a top tier RB. That certainly should happen at 1.02.

So while the 9.02 and 10.09 exchange is not huge, it should help us plenty, and we got it by pure accident. I can only imagine how frustrated Bob must have been when I asked him to ask for more. Luckily, Borbs accepted and the deal was complete.

 

[ClownDogs]

Our move up to 1.02 was actually based on an offer by Borbs. Bob called me when I was at the doctor's office with my wife and said he had a no-brainer that he wanted to accept. When he explained it to me, I didn't hear the part about Borbs including his 7th. So I told Bob to get another player in the trade to even it up, which probably confused Bob. And Bob has been frustrated with me in the past with my general nature of pushing for more in trades. The doctor came in and I rushed off the phone, only telling Bob to try to get a little something more, hence the additional round and a half bump from 9.02 to 10.9.In this league, where you can not start more than 3 WRs and you CAN start only 1 RB but to do so you must start a second TE, I liked the thought of getting a top tier RB. That certainly should happen at 1.02.So while the 9.02 and 10.09 exchange is not huge, it should help us plenty, and we got it by pure accident. I can only imagine how frustrated Bob must have been when I asked him to ask for more. Luckily, Borbs accepted and the deal was complete.

Now i get why u guys split a team: One guy asks for more to make the deal even worse and the other guy says it was a "misunderstanding", so combined, the "team" comes out ok instead of rip off artists. Just wish i would have thought of this, too late to bring in a co-GM? AJ to the white courtesy phone, AJ to the white courtesy phone........

 

[Bob Magaw]

Our move up to 1.02 was actually based on an offer by Borbs. Bob called me when I was at the doctor's office with my wife and said he had a no-brainer that he wanted to accept. When he explained it to me, I didn't hear the part about Borbs including his 7th. So I told Bob to get another player in the trade to even it up, which probably confused Bob. And Bob has been frustrated with me in the past with my general nature of pushing for more in trades. The doctor came in and I rushed off the phone, only telling Bob to try to get a little something more, hence the additional round and a half bump from 9.02 to 10.9.In this league, where you can not start more than 3 WRs and you CAN start only 1 RB but to do so you must start a second TE, I liked the thought of getting a top tier RB. That certainly should happen at 1.02.So while the 9.02 and 10.09 exchange is not huge, it should help us plenty, and we got it by pure accident. I can only imagine how frustrated Bob must have been when I asked him to ask for more. Luckily, Borbs accepted and the deal was complete.

Now i get why u guys split a team: One guy asks for more to make the deal even worse and the other guy says it was a "misunderstanding", so combined, the "team" comes out ok instead of rip off artists. Just wish i would have thought of this, too late to bring in a co-GM? AJ to the white courtesy phone, AJ to the white courtesy phone........

in actual negotiations, dave is definitely "bad cop".

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

After looking at this again, all I can say is (for this particular trade), I am the one in yellow :( The thing is I know this is not the first bad trade I have made and won't be the last. I just gave myself less room for error in my early picks. Bad as it was, it's not the end of the world because I have great confidence in myself with regards to drafting and overall managing, this trade notwithstanding.As for Magaw/Baker...paybacks are coming. Baker will get a red circle with a line through it on his Zeppelin avatar, and Magaw...well, you are getting a keyboard from me with the caps lock button stuck on all caps.

 

[comfortably numb]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

After looking at this again, all I can say is (for this particular trade), I am the one in yellow :( The thing is I know this is not the first bad trade I have made and won't be the last. I just gave myself less room for error in my early picks. Bad as it was, it's not the end of the world because I have great confidence in myself with regards to drafting and overall managing, this trade notwithstanding.As for Magaw/Baker...paybacks are coming. Baker will get a red circle with a line through it on his Zeppelin avatar, and Magaw...well, you are getting a keyboard from me with the caps lock button stuck on all caps.

I'm just sayin...aj2448 (12:04:22 PM): i didnt underdtand that at all that has to be the worst trade down ever from 1.02 to 1.08

 

[fruity pebbles]

I totally agree with the negative opinions of my trade. Impatience got the best of me.

After looking at this again, all I can say is (for this particular trade), I am the one in yellow :( The thing is I know this is not the first bad trade I have made and won't be the last. I just gave myself less room for error in my early picks. Bad as it was, it's not the end of the world because I have great confidence in myself with regards to drafting and overall managing, this trade notwithstanding.As for Magaw/Baker...paybacks are coming. Baker will get a red circle with a line through it on his Zeppelin avatar, and Magaw...well, you are getting a keyboard from me with the caps lock button stuck on all caps.

I'm just sayin...aj2448 (12:04:22 PM): i didnt underdtand that at all that has to be the worst trade down ever from 1.02 to 1.08

dogpile on the rabbit....dogpile on the rabbit

 

[Dave Baker]

As for Magaw/Baker...paybacks are coming. Baker will get a red circle with a line through it on his Zeppelin avatar

Don't make me change yours from Archie to Edith.Seriously, Bob actually feels bad. I don't really, and kind of got a chuckle out of us getting more than what we would have normally accepted.

Either way, this doesn't have nearly the impact as some seem to think. The difference between the 9.02 and the 10.09 might end up to be nominal and I'd bet that many guys that end up going in one spot might end up towards the other in other similar drafts. This is not like trading Chris Johnson for Clinton Portis. Could Borbs have done better? Judging by the responses here, sure. But I doubt this has a large negative impact on Borbely's team.

 

[Bob Magaw]

i agree i wasn't expecting to move up into such expensive real estate, but kind of fell into our laps.

that said, i was OK with the 1.8 slot... anthony does move higher and get better players (potentially), with us dropping in the 2nd and out of the 6th... agree that value is distributed a bit more evenly by 9th-10th rounds (2nd tier of top IDPs, depth at skill positions).

just trying to tell the league, it is safe to trade with us.

everything will be OK.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I like the end piece

you don't have to agonize over decisions like which player/position to prioritize in odd round, as you always are getting back to back sets of picks... depending on how the tiers shake out, and how the dominos fall in the draft, might be nice to have first pick in even rounds...long wait in between picks, but compensated for by the double picks...sounds like double trouble for team picking 2nd in even rounds...