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28-29? no. i won't go into specific players i was looking at at pick 1.10 but AJ's age is just fine with me.Mike, isn't AJ a little old for you?
28-29? no. i won't go into specific players i was looking at at pick 1.10 but AJ's age is just fine with me.Mike, isn't AJ a little old for you?
First, a brief reminder about the starting lineups and scoring: We start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, and a RB/TE flex. Scoring is TE friendly, which is why 5 TEs were taken in the first 1 1/2 rounds. the PPR scoring is RBs get 0.5 points per reception, WRs get 1, and TEs get 1.5. I had some options with this pick (2.09). First, I pick again at 3.02, so I know some of the players I really want will still be available. When I traded back from the 1.02, the main reason was to move up in round 2. This pick was right at the end of one of my tiers and that is where I like to draft, if possible. The same with my 3.02. The good thing is if players slide, I have the option of trading back a few spots, but I did not expect that for this pick and I did not seriously consider trading back once nobody really slid.As this pick approached, I had a short list of players that I would consider. One of them was Vincent Jackson, who wound up going the pick right after mine. But I saw 4 TEs go in a 6 pick span (from 1.13 to 2.02) and the only other TE I had in my early tiers was Finley, so he was going to be considered. He went the pick before mine, so I chose the other player on my short list and that was Mendenhall. With the TE tier dropping, and this league having a RB/TE flex, I decided to cover myself and took Mendenhall. I did consider V Jax, but I could not pass up a 23 year old top 10 RB at this pick. The trade I made was discussed earlier in the thread (moving back from 1.02 to 1.08 and moving up from 2.15 to 2.09, among other things) and I got poor value in the deal by being impatient, but I can say right now that I feel a whole lot better about it since I got Mendenhall here. I really thought he would be long gone by now. Needless to say, I am happy to build my core around a couple of 23 year old RBs in Stewart and Mendenhall. My 3.02 is also near the end of one of my tiers so I should have a solid 3rd piece to the puzzle later today.I had the 1.08 and knew the big 4 RBs and big 3 WRs would all be gone. I picked Jonathan Stewart and it was my intended pick from the time I traded back. He is only 23 years old and has top 5 potential. I realize Williams is still there, but I'm building for the long haul and I am convinced this was the correct pick. I have talked up Stewart since day one and this was really an easy choice for me based on my thoughts. I know some will not like this pick and that's fine. More to come as time permits, but in summary, when I traded back, Stewart was the player I was drafting unless a WR slid to this pick. I have no reservations at all taking him here.
I will have more to say, strategy wise, after some players get drafted. I don't want to talk about players before they are drafted because that is very unfair to owners who have picks coming up, so some strategy discussions are limited at the time a pick is made.I was actually mildly shocked to see you take Mendenhall at 2.09. Not so much that I think Mendenhall is bad, but I didn't really expect to see anyone go RB/RB with their first 2 picks in this format (although I was strongly considering it if Gore fell to me at 2.06). I think Mendenhall would've been there at 3.02 for ya.First, a brief reminder about the starting lineups and scoring: We start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, and a RB/TE flex. Scoring is TE friendly, which is why 5 TEs were taken in the first 1 1/2 rounds. the PPR scoring is RBs get 0.5 points per reception, WRs get 1, and TEs get 1.5. I had some options with this pick (2.09). First, I pick again at 3.02, so I know some of the players I really want will still be available. When I traded back from the 1.02, the main reason was to move up in round 2. This pick was right at the end of one of my tiers and that is where I like to draft, if possible. The same with my 3.02. The good thing is if players slide, I have the option of trading back a few spots, but I did not expect that for this pick and I did not seriously consider trading back once nobody really slid.As this pick approached, I had a short list of players that I would consider. One of them was Vincent Jackson, who wound up going the pick right after mine. But I saw 4 TEs go in a 6 pick span (from 1.13 to 2.02) and the only other TE I had in my early tiers was Finley, so he was going to be considered. He went the pick before mine, so I chose the other player on my short list and that was Mendenhall. With the TE tier dropping, and this league having a RB/TE flex, I decided to cover myself and took Mendenhall. I did consider V Jax, but I could not pass up a 23 year old top 10 RB at this pick. The trade I made was discussed earlier in the thread (moving back from 1.02 to 1.08 and moving up from 2.15 to 2.09, among other things) and I got poor value in the deal by being impatient, but I can say right now that I feel a whole lot better about it since I got Mendenhall here. I really thought he would be long gone by now. Needless to say, I am happy to build my core around a couple of 23 year old RBs in Stewart and Mendenhall. My 3.02 is also near the end of one of my tiers so I should have a solid 3rd piece to the puzzle later today.I had the 1.08 and knew the big 4 RBs and big 3 WRs would all be gone. I picked Jonathan Stewart and it was my intended pick from the time I traded back. He is only 23 years old and has top 5 potential. I realize Williams is still there, but I'm building for the long haul and I am convinced this was the correct pick. I have talked up Stewart since day one and this was really an easy choice for me based on my thoughts. I know some will not like this pick and that's fine. More to come as time permits, but in summary, when I traded back, Stewart was the player I was drafting unless a WR slid to this pick. I have no reservations at all taking him here.I will have more to say, strategy wise, after some players get drafted. I don't want to talk about players before they are drafted because that is very unfair to owners who have picks coming up, so some strategy discussions are limited at the time a pick is made.
That is a nice duo though. You should have no worries about who to play at RB for quite a while.I was more than mildly surprised. I'd have bet a fair amount of money that VJax was your pick there.I was actually mildly shocked to see you take Mendenhall at 2.09. Not so much that I think Mendenhall is bad, but I didn't really expect to see anyone go RB/RB with their first 2 picks in this format (although I was strongly considering it if Gore fell to me at 2.06). I think Mendenhall would've been there at 3.02 for ya.First, a brief reminder about the starting lineups and scoring: We start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, and a RB/TE flex. Scoring is TE friendly, which is why 5 TEs were taken in the first 1 1/2 rounds. the PPR scoring is RBs get 0.5 points per reception, WRs get 1, and TEs get 1.5. I had some options with this pick (2.09). First, I pick again at 3.02, so I know some of the players I really want will still be available. When I traded back from the 1.02, the main reason was to move up in round 2. This pick was right at the end of one of my tiers and that is where I like to draft, if possible. The same with my 3.02. The good thing is if players slide, I have the option of trading back a few spots, but I did not expect that for this pick and I did not seriously consider trading back once nobody really slid.As this pick approached, I had a short list of players that I would consider. One of them was Vincent Jackson, who wound up going the pick right after mine. But I saw 4 TEs go in a 6 pick span (from 1.13 to 2.02) and the only other TE I had in my early tiers was Finley, so he was going to be considered. He went the pick before mine, so I chose the other player on my short list and that was Mendenhall. With the TE tier dropping, and this league having a RB/TE flex, I decided to cover myself and took Mendenhall. I did consider V Jax, but I could not pass up a 23 year old top 10 RB at this pick. The trade I made was discussed earlier in the thread (moving back from 1.02 to 1.08 and moving up from 2.15 to 2.09, among other things) and I got poor value in the deal by being impatient, but I can say right now that I feel a whole lot better about it since I got Mendenhall here. I really thought he would be long gone by now. Needless to say, I am happy to build my core around a couple of 23 year old RBs in Stewart and Mendenhall. My 3.02 is also near the end of one of my tiers so I should have a solid 3rd piece to the puzzle later today.I had the 1.08 and knew the big 4 RBs and big 3 WRs would all be gone. I picked Jonathan Stewart and it was my intended pick from the time I traded back. He is only 23 years old and has top 5 potential. I realize Williams is still there, but I'm building for the long haul and I am convinced this was the correct pick. I have talked up Stewart since day one and this was really an easy choice for me based on my thoughts. I know some will not like this pick and that's fine. More to come as time permits, but in summary, when I traded back, Stewart was the player I was drafting unless a WR slid to this pick. I have no reservations at all taking him here.I will have more to say, strategy wise, after some players get drafted. I don't want to talk about players before they are drafted because that is very unfair to owners who have picks coming up, so some strategy discussions are limited at the time a pick is made.
That is a nice duo though. You should have no worries about who to play at RB for quite a while.
Wow. I could see the scoring system coming into play a little, but TEs in the first round?Davis is at least young and somewhat justifiable, but at 32-33 Clark is getting to the age where TEs start a serious decline.1.13 Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:01 p.m. ET 2010 i love vernon 1.14 Nick Chadick Clark, Dallas IND TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:59 p.m. ET 2010
Scoring system and starting requirements come into play a lot. TEs are worth as much as RBs. Not only do they get 1.5 ppr but there is a RB/TE flex. For example, Dallas Clark was the #2 scoring non QB last season behind only Chris Johnson.Wow. I could see the scoring system coming into play a little, but TEs in the first round?Davis is at least young and somewhat justifiable, but at 32-33 Clark is getting to the age where TEs start a serious decline.1.13 Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:01 p.m. ET 2010 i love vernon 1.14 Nick Chadick Clark, Dallas IND TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:59 p.m. ET 2010
Scoring system and starting requirements come into play a lot. TEs are worth as much as RBs. Not only do they get 1.5 ppr but there is a RB/TE flex. For example, Dallas Clark was the #2 scoring non QB last season behind only Chris Johnson.Wow. I could see the scoring system coming into play a little, but TEs in the first round?Davis is at least young and somewhat justifiable, but at 32-33 Clark is getting to the age where TEs start a serious decline.1.13 Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:01 p.m. ET 2010 i love vernon 1.14 Nick Chadick Clark, Dallas IND TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:59 p.m. ET 2010
Clark is 30.Wow. I could see the scoring system coming into play a little, but TEs in the first round? but at 32-33 Clark is getting to the age where TEs start a serious decline.1.13 Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:01 p.m. ET 2010 i love vernon 1.14 Nick Chadick Clark, Dallas IND TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:59 p.m. ET 2010
Sorry I was off on that. He'll be 31 in June. gianmarco did a study last offseason that showed 31 was the line where TEs start a serious decline - althought I would say Clark's role is more slot WR than typical TE so perhaps he isn't as worn down.Clark is 30.Wow. I could see the scoring system coming into play a little, but TEs in the first round? but at 32-33 Clark is getting to the age where TEs start a serious decline.1.13 Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:01 p.m. ET 2010 i love vernon 1.14 Nick Chadick Clark, Dallas IND TE Wed Apr 28 12:59:59 p.m. ET 2010
First, some background. Romo and Rivers went between my Mendenhall pick (2.09) and my 3.02, but I made my mind up quite a while ago that neither my 2.09 nor my 3.02 picks would be a QB unless all of the WRs I liked were gone and Mendenhall was gone. The only TE I would have taken that high that was available was Finley and he was picked right before I took Mendenhall. That left WR and RB as my choices at the 2.09. I had a short list of WRs that I liked and had them all in a reasonably close tier. I would have considered going WR/WR with the 2.09 and the 3.02, but if I took a WR at 2.09 and the other WRs I liked were all taken, then I would have a big drop in value from my tiers. My short list of WRs that I would have considered at the 3.02 were V Jax, Rice, Colston, Crabtree, and Dez Bryant. I did not see me being able to take one at 2.09 AND have one of them also slide to my 3.02. So I took Mendenhall because I figured I would be able to get one of the above WRs and I did. I took Dez Bryant with the 3.02 and that pretty much shows my swing for the fences mentality. I think this guy is going to be an absolute beast and the pick was a no brainer for me considering my strategy. I think he will be every bit as good as any of the WRs I listed above with a huge ceiling. So I now have Stewart, Mendenhall, and Bryant.I was more than mildly surprised. I'd have bet a fair amount of money that VJax was your pick there.I was actually mildly shocked to see you take Mendenhall at 2.09. Not so much that I think Mendenhall is bad, but I didn't really expect to see anyone go RB/RB with their first 2 picks in this format (although I was strongly considering it if Gore fell to me at 2.06). I think Mendenhall would've been there at 3.02 for ya.First, a brief reminder about the starting lineups and scoring: We start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, and a RB/TE flex. Scoring is TE friendly, which is why 5 TEs were taken in the first 1 1/2 rounds. the PPR scoring is RBs get 0.5 points per reception, WRs get 1, and TEs get 1.5. I had some options with this pick (2.09). First, I pick again at 3.02, so I know some of the players I really want will still be available. When I traded back from the 1.02, the main reason was to move up in round 2. This pick was right at the end of one of my tiers and that is where I like to draft, if possible. The same with my 3.02. The good thing is if players slide, I have the option of trading back a few spots, but I did not expect that for this pick and I did not seriously consider trading back once nobody really slid.As this pick approached, I had a short list of players that I would consider. One of them was Vincent Jackson, who wound up going the pick right after mine. But I saw 4 TEs go in a 6 pick span (from 1.13 to 2.02) and the only other TE I had in my early tiers was Finley, so he was going to be considered. He went the pick before mine, so I chose the other player on my short list and that was Mendenhall. With the TE tier dropping, and this league having a RB/TE flex, I decided to cover myself and took Mendenhall. I did consider V Jax, but I could not pass up a 23 year old top 10 RB at this pick. The trade I made was discussed earlier in the thread (moving back from 1.02 to 1.08 and moving up from 2.15 to 2.09, among other things) and I got poor value in the deal by being impatient, but I can say right now that I feel a whole lot better about it since I got Mendenhall here. I really thought he would be long gone by now. Needless to say, I am happy to build my core around a couple of 23 year old RBs in Stewart and Mendenhall. My 3.02 is also near the end of one of my tiers so I should have a solid 3rd piece to the puzzle later today.I had the 1.08 and knew the big 4 RBs and big 3 WRs would all be gone. I picked Jonathan Stewart and it was my intended pick from the time I traded back. He is only 23 years old and has top 5 potential. I realize Williams is still there, but I'm building for the long haul and I am convinced this was the correct pick. I have talked up Stewart since day one and this was really an easy choice for me based on my thoughts. I know some will not like this pick and that's fine. More to come as time permits, but in summary, when I traded back, Stewart was the player I was drafting unless a WR slid to this pick. I have no reservations at all taking him here.I will have more to say, strategy wise, after some players get drafted. I don't want to talk about players before they are drafted because that is very unfair to owners who have picks coming up, so some strategy discussions are limited at the time a pick is made.
That is a nice duo though. You should have no worries about who to play at RB for quite a while.
Turner just went. You can rest easy.I'm a little surprised a certain RB hasn't been taken yet.....
Whew!Turner just went. You can rest easy.I'm a little surprised a certain RB hasn't been taken yet.....
I took Dez Bryant with the 3.02
Wanted to go in a few directions here, mainly young WR

i think this one surprised everyoneJoe Flacco as the 7th QB? wow
Anthony Borbely said:Anthony Borbely said:I took Dez Bryant with the 3.02comfortably numb said:Wanted to go in a few directions here, mainly young WR![]()
I just moved back again, trading 5.07 and 7.07 for 5.11 and 6.13.I have made 3 tradebacks, still got Harvin, still see players I was targeting, and turned my 7.13 and 7.07 into 6.06 and 6.13. Those 2 moveups from round 7 to round 6 are huge with my draftboard being what it is. I still can't give better detail because players I need to discuss are still not drafted and it is important that we don't talk about those players, nor any positions we are targeting. I will have more specifics to post when more players have been drafted. I think these 3 trades have made a major difference in this draft for me.I have 5.11, 6.06, and 6.13 coming up.I was sitting on the 4.11 and 5.04 and had several players that I liked, so I was getting ready to email the league, stating my interest in trading back from the 4.11. Right then, Jene "The Mindreader" Bramel sent me an offer and I took it. I moved down from 4.11 to 5.04 and moved up from 7.13 to 6.14. That 15 spot move up from 7.13 to 6.14 is huge for me based on my tiers and I really wanted to move back into the 6th round. This gave me the 5.02, 5.04, 6.14, and 7.07. I used the 5.02 and took Percy Harvin, who would have been my pick at 4.11, so this trade worked out as good as can be. I then made another small trade back with Bachman. I moved back 3 spots from 5.04 to 5.07 and moved up from 6.14 to 6.06. The 6.14 was a pick acquired in the previous deal mentioned above. This trade was a no brainer for me. I will explain this deal better after some more players are taken, but with my board, this trade does not affect me in a negative way at all and benefits me with the 8 spot moveup. I traded my 6th for a 2011 first early in the process and am glad to have moved back into the 6th without hurting myself. So combining those 2 deals, I moved back from 4.11 to 5.07 (12 spots) and used my 5.02 to take Harvin, who I would have taken at 4.11, so no loss at all moving back. I moved up from 7.13 to 6.06, which is 23 spots and a big different on my draft board. The other owners both got what they wanted to (both made the offers to me), so it was win-win, which are the best kind of trades. More to come later. I have the 5.07, 6.06, and 7.07. I have drafted Stewart, Mendenhall, Dez Bryant, and Harvin and am happy with how this is progressing.![]()
Thought I would give my 2 cents on why I drafted Flacco.....I know he isn't the highest rated QB on everyone's board, but I think he is going to have a great year. The Ravens added Boldin to the team this year, who on the Football Guys website is #17. This right there will be a big boost to his stats. They also added Stallworth, who didn't play last year and might not be much, but is still a weapon. They drafted 2 TE's in the draft, so hopefully one of them will pan out after Heap is done. He is 25, and his best football is ahead of him.As far as not picking Brady, Welker's injury really scared me. Also, Moss may not be there after this year. We will see how this pick turns out, but I see Flacco improving each year and being a stud for many years to come.Joe Flacco as the 7th QB? wow
Now that certain players can come off the board, I can be more specific about what I was trying to accomplish as I made the 3 trades that allowed me to drop back a few spots at a time. I explained the part about Harvin above. That leaves the last 2 tradebacks, one where I moved back 3 spots and the other where I moved back 4 spots. Pretty much from the time I drew the 4.15 pick (later traded for the 4.11), and my 5.02, I had made a decision that one of those picks was going to be a stud DE. Three of them have been drafted, so I can use them to make my point. The three drafted were Jared Allen, Mario Williams, and Trent Cole, who coincidentally are the top 3 on my board.I just moved back again, trading 5.07 and 7.07 for 5.11 and 6.13.I have made 3 tradebacks, still got Harvin, still see players I was targeting, and turned my 7.13 and 7.07 into 6.06 and 6.13. Those 2 moveups from round 7 to round 6 are huge with my draftboard being what it is.I was sitting on the 4.11 and 5.04 and had several players that I liked, so I was getting ready to email the league, stating my interest in trading back from the 4.11. Right then, Jene "The Mindreader" Bramel sent me an offer and I took it. I moved down from 4.11 to 5.04 and moved up from 7.13 to 6.14. That 15 spot move up from 7.13 to 6.14 is huge for me based on my tiers and I really wanted to move back into the 6th round.
This gave me the 5.02, 5.04, 6.14, and 7.07. I used the 5.02 and took Percy Harvin, who would have been my pick at 4.11, so this trade worked out as good as can be.
I then made another small trade back with Bachman. I moved back 3 spots from 5.04 to 5.07 and moved up from 6.14 to 6.06. The 6.14 was a pick acquired in the previous deal mentioned above. This trade was a no brainer for me. I will explain this deal better after some more players are taken, but with my board, this trade does not affect me in a negative way at all and benefits me with the 8 spot moveup. I traded my 6th for a 2011 first early in the process and am glad to have moved back into the 6th without hurting myself.
So combining those 2 deals, I moved back from 4.11 to 5.07 (12 spots) and used my 5.02 to take Harvin, who I would have taken at 4.11, so no loss at all moving back. I moved up from 7.13 to 6.06, which is 23 spots and a big different on my draft board. The other owners both got what they wanted to (both made the offers to me), so it was win-win, which are the best kind of trades.
More to come later. I have the 5.07, 6.06, and 7.07. I have drafted Stewart, Mendenhall, Dez Bryant, and Harvin and am happy with how this is progressing.![]()
I still can't give better detail because players I need to discuss are still not drafted and it is important that we don't talk about those players, nor any positions we are targeting.
I will have more specifics to post when more players have been drafted.
I think these 3 trades have made a major difference in this draft for me.
I have 5.11, 6.06, and 6.13 coming up.
The "accept" button is your friend.I have now been trading back trying to acquire a group of picks in the 12-14 range.

fineThe "accept" button is your friend.I have now been trading back trying to acquire a group of picks in the 12-14 range.![]()
This was an understatement and for people new to startup dynasties (especially with our 53 round draft) this is a tough time to keep your patience because it's easy to panic when you are watching that many players drafted between your picks.This 54 spot wait will seem like an eternity.![]()
I added Vince Young with my 10.07 and have a cluster of picks coming up with the 10.15, 11.01 and 11.02. I made a couple of trades in between my 7.01 pick and the VY pick at 10.07 and will comment later.This is what I have now:QB Matthew StaffordRB Jonathan StewartRB Rashard MendenhallWR Dez BryantWR Percy HarvinTE Aaron Hernandez DE Mario Williams
.With enough rounds to choke a hippopotamus, I want to wait a bit longer to comment on my draft and my strategy. I will do so in the coming days/week(s).
One thing I can say about a deep IDP dynasty league (lineup and roster size are in initial thread) is that you have to have a plan, but be flexible enough to adjust on the fly when things go a different way then you want. This is especially true in a league like this with sharks coming at you from all directions. While there have been a few picks that I thought were reaches, I really haven't seen any player that has had a major slide thus far. This fact is the reason for the high number of trades in which teams were moving up/back a few spots at a time. We all know very few players will slide and if we want someone, we have to make a move. Conversely, some owners moved back, as I did 4 times because my tiers were big enough at those picks to be able to trade back and still get the players I wanted.

someone drafted 8 kickers, 1 DT, and 2 DE.I'm sure it's nice to have 7 backup kickers to play matchups and cover injuries/byes, but kind of sucks to not have any backups on the defensive line.
He's the one in yellow. 