Bogart
Footballguy
Far from it. Can't stand LAAAAAAAA.I think Harden is just the type of risk that is good for Texas, and with a contract that they can handle.
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Hot Stove - 2009 Edition (1 Viewer)
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Bogart
Footballguy
No one can accuse the Royals of not playing with the big boys on the free agent market.
the moops
Footballguy
And for 6 million.So it is two years too long, and about 5.75 million too much.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Possible three way deal with Seattle, Toronto and Philly. Lee possibly going to Seattle with the Phils flipping prospects to Toronto for Halladay. This from Philly sports radio.
Phils also rumored to be in contract talks with Roys agent and could be already scheduled to take a physical.
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/mobile_land...&feedID=704
Phils also rumored to be in contract talks with Roys agent and could be already scheduled to take a physical.
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/mobile_land...&feedID=704
morris buttermaker
Footballguy
####### angels 
missed out on lackey and halladay......bastards!!!!!!!!
missed out on lackey and halladay......bastards!!!!!!!!
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crewmember
Footballguy
Red Sox.
Clifton
Footballguy
The Sox that are relevant, yes.
crewmember
Footballguy
Not the Sox known for signing Cubans. Could be confusing is all.
Clifton
Footballguy
Excellent point
Eephus
Footballguy
Minnie Minoso is baffled
Balco
Footballguy
Everything I read about Chapman is that he has a ton of raw stuff, but there are also a ton of questions, especially about a breaking ball. I hope the Sox don't get too involved in the bidding.
shut it down
Footballguy
Potential prospect trade being reported by Onley: Phillies flip Michael Taylor to the A's for Brett Wallace.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Not sure what you don't understand - Wallace is a VERY good young hitter - probably ready to take over at 3B before Polanco's contract is up but gives the Phillies more versatility and upcoming cost control. Taylor is just another OF prospect and can't improve on any of their current starters.If you are talking about why Oakland would trade Wallace, the only answer I can give you is "track record for Billy Beane" - he must have something in mind (presumably higher on Taylor and/or thinks less of Wallace than I do or believes he needs the OF help sooner or has a trade on the table for one of his current OF)
Eephus
Footballguy
Toronto is the team flipping Taylor. They're the ones who'll end up with Wallace, presumably at 1B replacing Lyle Overbay.
Balco
Footballguy
Nice move by Toronto if that is the case. Wallace won't be able to hack it defensively at 3B, but he is a great hitting prospect. Should do well at 1B.
Yes, I meant I don't totally understand it from Oakland's standpoint. I know Wallace sucks as a defender but I'm still a bit perplexed by the move.
Nonetheless, Beane has earned my trust over the years...so if he makes a trade I'll trust it will work out for our club one way or the other.
Nonetheless, Beane has earned my trust over the years...so if he makes a trade I'll trust it will work out for our club one way or the other.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Gordon Edes says no chance right now because McLeod and Hoyer know all about the prospects that Epstein wants to give them and they won't do it without Bucholz.
Clifton
Footballguy
Buchholz is on the block....believe that. They allegedly want both Buchholz and Ellsbury.
Eephus
Footballguy
Taylor is a 5-tool prospect who probably has more upside than Wallace because of it. The deal is interesting in that it's a rare straight swap of top prospects.The A's organization has seen a half season of Wallace so they should be familiar with what he brings to the table. They've been far from perfect recently in their assessment of minor league position players (e.g. Ethier, Carlos Gonzalez).
shut it down
Footballguy
I was immensely disappointed with how they rushed Gonzalez up, and then dealt him for Holliday.A's have a few 1B's coming up, which is where they projected Wallace to end up. With Jake Fox also on board, there just wasn't enough room for that many guys who couldn't play defense.
Eephus
Footballguy
After the dust settles, Beane traded Gonzalez, Street and Greg Smith for a poor half season from Holliday and Michael Taylor. Street is the wild card in the deck, the A's didn't want to pay him last year and he presumably wants a bigger contract now. So it was realistically only a year's worth of Street in the Holliday deal and the A's had no problems finding a better, cheaper closer in 2009.I've seen a lot worse series of trades.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Rockies fans are still appreciative.
shut it down
Footballguy
It could've been worse. But it's really the principle behind the Holliday trade that annoyed me. Oakland deals off Haren, and Swisher, and Blanton, and then decide to acquire a rental? It just doesn't make sense. And any sane person knows the A's didn't have much of a shot in the ALW last year.
Eephus
Footballguy
Nick Johnson to the Yankees 1 year $5.5M.
This is one of those deals that a high payroll team like the Yankees can do. If Johnson is somehow able to stay in the lineup, he could easily outperform his contract. But if reverts to form and spends two months on the shelf, it's not as big a hit for New York as it would be for another team.
Too bad, his OBP would have looked good on the Giants' DL next year. SF reportedly offered him more money but for some reason Johnson thinks the Yankees can contend for a championship next year. Well that and the whole DH thing.
This is one of those deals that a high payroll team like the Yankees can do. If Johnson is somehow able to stay in the lineup, he could easily outperform his contract. But if reverts to form and spends two months on the shelf, it's not as big a hit for New York as it would be for another team.
Too bad, his OBP would have looked good on the Giants' DL next year. SF reportedly offered him more money but for some reason Johnson thinks the Yankees can contend for a championship next year. Well that and the whole DH thing.
the moops
Footballguy
Hmm.That move seemed to come out of nowhere.Always been a Nick Johnson fan. He plays excellent defense and just seems to not make outs.Athough his value is a little bit tied to his defense, he will make a fine DH, and hopefully stays healthy.
why?Johnson is 4 years younger, much better defensively and is great at getting on base. Few teams have the luxury of being able to spend >5M per year on a backup firstbaseman/dh, but the Yankees certainly can. It looks like the Red Sox may pay Kotchman essentially the same kind of money to be their backup 1B. I'd rather have had Johnson to be honest. Only issue with Johnson is he always seems to get hurt, but if he can dh that should keep him healthy.I like the Johnson signing but I wouldve rather signed Matsui for relatively the same deal
the moops
Footballguy
Casey Kotchman made 2.885 million last year. He is going to get a very small bump in his arbitration hearing.why?Johnson is 4 years younger, much better defensively and is great at getting on base. Few teams have the luxury of being able to spend >5M per year on a backup firstbaseman/dh, but the Yankees certainly can. It looks like the Red Sox may pay Kotchman essentially the same kind of money to be their backup 1B. I'd rather have had Johnson to be honest. Only issue with Johnson is he always seems to get hurt, but if he can dh that should keep him healthy.I like the Johnson signing but I wouldve rather signed Matsui for relatively the same deal
shadyridr
Footballguy
yeah i think thats the plan
shadyridr
Footballguy
take age out of the equation since theyre both signed to one yr deals. take defense out of the eqution since theyre both dh. johnson is great at getting on base and is probably a better fit for the yanks as a #2 hitter. u r right there.why?Johnson is 4 years younger, much better defensively and is great at getting on base. Few teams have the luxury of being able to spend >5M per year on a backup firstbaseman/dh, but the Yankees certainly can. It looks like the Red Sox may pay Kotchman essentially the same kind of money to be their backup 1B. I'd rather have had Johnson to be honest. Only issue with Johnson is he always seems to get hurt, but if he can dh that should keep him healthy.I like the Johnson signing but I wouldve rather signed Matsui for relatively the same deal
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Latest is that the Mets are coveting Arroyo + 2 other un-named Reds. But they have to move a contract (read: Castillo) first.
Many of us assume that it includes Brandon Phillips, but if that's the case the ONLY thing that makes even remote sense, from the Reds end, is if they get Reyes. The Mets wouldn't include him for Halladay, so you'd think they wouldn't here, but the Mets farm system is more barren than a 90-yo woman's womb. So this doesn't make sense...
Any Mets homers wanna chime in?
Many of us assume that it includes Brandon Phillips, but if that's the case the ONLY thing that makes even remote sense, from the Reds end, is if they get Reyes. The Mets wouldn't include him for Halladay, so you'd think they wouldn't here, but the Mets farm system is more barren than a 90-yo woman's womb. So this doesn't make sense...
Any Mets homers wanna chime in?
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Sea also included $9M in that deal, too.Seattle def. is going to be one very exciting team to watch this year. If I were a M's fan, I'd be really, really excited.
RnR
Footballguy
What a great move, even if it cost them 9 mil. Silva is owed $25 mil over the next two seasons, Bradley is owed $23 mil. Silva was a complete waste of already allocated funds, so essentially they are getting Milton Bradley for two seasons at just $7 mil more than what they had already budgeted. For the life of me, I can't figure this out from the Cubs perspective. Do they really think Silva is usable?
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Bogart
Footballguy
It doesn't make sense for the Cubs at all, unless they are just that tired of Bradley. But you have to get more for him than that. Bradley is going to get yet another clean start, play DH and just kill the AL West like he did with Texas.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Oh, I totally agree. It's a win for Seattle. Silva, while a nice guy, just is horrible. But, as a Reds fan, I like that my boys get to face him the next 2 years
shadyridr
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
they were tired of bradleys act
The Cubs had to get rid of Bradley. The guy was complete garbage last year. He couldn't drive the bal, or hit left handed. Plus the guy is a total piece of crap. He destroyed the clubhouse last year. By the end of the year derrick lee and Ryan Theriot were talking about how bad a clubhouse guy he was. Those are two of the nicest guys. The Cubs sent him home with a couple weeks left in the season. Everyone thinking Seattle got some good ball player is mistaken. I don't care who the cubs got for Bradley, as long as he was gone.
Eephus
Footballguy
Garrett Atkins to Baltimore, 1 year $4M plus incentives with a $500K option buyout in 2011. Not a bad deal although Atkins just seems like the typical kind of guy who ends up in the Orioles' lineup.
If he can still play 3B and can somehow manage a dead cat bounce offensively, he can outperform his contract by a fair amount. He's not the missing piece in Baltimore's puzzle but there are worse stopgaps out there.
If he can still play 3B and can somehow manage a dead cat bounce offensively, he can outperform his contract by a fair amount. He's not the missing piece in Baltimore's puzzle but there are worse stopgaps out there.
