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Austin Jackson is not a "cant miss" prospect. Id say hes a level below that. He has upside and a ton of athleticism but has struck out a ton and has shown no glimpse of power yet. His ceiling is basically Granderson. So the Tigers possibly got a younger/cheaper version of Granderson and he may be able to play in the bigs mid-season. Id say it was a good deal for the Tigers.
I would say their arms are a wash. :ragarms:
nothing wrong with a "slight" downgrade if it gets you younger. I dont think A-Jax can be what Granderson already is. I like this if it happens
I dont think anyone's arm is a wash with Damon. He throws like a girl.
Well...You gave up Ian Kennedy, Phil Coke and Austin Jackson and you are downgrading your team. Is that really worth getting younger? I mean, why not just keep the prospects and sign Matt Holliday. You would be upgrading LF, get younger and keep your prospects. This trade really makes no sense to me from a Yankees POV.
They can still sign Holliday or Bay.
Ian kennedy & Phil Coke are worthless. Are you really calling them prospects? Yanks also get a young CF with a decent contract that they control for a few years. And finally, while I think Jackson is a decent prospect there is always the chance that he doesnt pan out. This move makes tons of sense for the Yankees. And like I said earlier, I think they will still sign one of Damon or Matsui to play DH.
You may be the only one in the entire country who thinks this way.Yanks get a damn steal here.
Like I said, a wash.
I just don't understand what the hype is for Granderson. He looks like he peaked at age 26 and is on the downward slope to mediocrity.
As a Tigers fan, it's pretty clear that this city overvalues him like crazy.But, he has certainly shown the ability to be fantastic, so if he can find the 2007 Granderson again, the Yankees get a big-time steal.Low risk, big reward (for the Yanks).
The hype is that the Yankees gave up zero players of any consequence for a CF'er who is a much, much better player than they have had in CF for a few years.If they simply slide Melky over to LF, then yes, this deal isn't a blockbuster. But, couple this deal with Holliday, or Bay, or Damon in LF and the Yankees are a much better team next year.
That 26 year old still has done more than Jackson, Coke and Kennedy put together. We're those 3 guys involved at all in the ### whooping we put on the Phillies and the rest of the AL?
What about Matsui at DH, Cabrera in LF cuz thats my prediction.
I have to believe both Melky and Gardner are viewed as surplus parts at this point with the caveat being Cabrera can play LF if all else fails this offseason. There's really no reason either should be everyday players for the Yankees.
Can one of them hit lefties?
After a shaky year or two, Cabrera has turned himself into a good center fielder. Defensively, they aren't getting a huge bonus in this sawp.
The DBacks effectively gave up one potentially good SP in Scherzer for a more experienced and more productive one (to date) in Jackson, and one potentially better as a SP in Kennedy who after an injury plagued season this year threw VERY well in the Arizona Fall League. There has been disagreement for a couple of years in the Diamondbacks offices on whether Max Scherzer's future was as a closer or starter while both Jackson and Kennedy are better as starters. Schlereth was a wild card but hadn't impressed enough in his limited time in Arizona and as a power lefty is likely not a closer.I like this trade because I like Curtis Granderson. I would have liked to see if Jackson could have developed into an everyday ballplayer, but Granderson is an exciting player and should be fun to watch for the next 5 or 6 seasons. Coke gives up too many bombs and Kennedy may be a head case, so the Yanks didn't lose too much here.Robertson looks to be a main cog in the pen for the Yanks this upcoming year...even more good news!
Oh come on
If true, Florida will rue this day.
It's Swisher-esque. Guy who has shown tons of talent in the past has a poor season, Yanks get him for nothing of immediate consequence.Admittedly, they gave up absolutely zero upside to get Swisher but then again the upside of Granderson is a 5-tool star so you've got to give something.But I see similarities.Snotbubbles said:
Yes, because I would make things up just for amusement.
relax dude. not saying you made it up im saying idont believe the rumor
Sorry, just still reeling from any thought that it might be true. Had to be a Florida writer pipe dream.
It's very possible 2007 was a career year for Granderson, he's better than what the Yanks had in center before this coming season, but is the difference between Damon + misc CF's and misc LF's and Granderson really that much? Probably not.
This is a blip on the radar. There is more to come. They have not signed or traded for 2 more superstars yet.
I don't want to bag on Granderson too much because I like him a lot but I think people are really overrating him. I agree with you that 2007 was very likely his career year.Also he is a platoon player now - albeit a pretty good one against righties. But late in games it's easy to neutralize him by bringing in a lefty. The Yanks will have to have a platoon partner for him.
Admittedly, Smoak is a higher rated prospect, but he can only play first and the Marlins already have Logan Morrison who should be ready mid 2010 and as amazing as Feliz was out of the pen, alot of people question his ability to start. It would get the Marlins younger, but they seem like they're building up for a run this year or next and Johnson is a centerpiece of that. Everything I've heard is that he's just not available, period.
They are going to pay him more than twice last year's salary (5.5 million), for putting up nearly identical numbers to what he put up in 2008?Yanks resign Pettitte: 1yr, $11.75m
Actually, with incentives he made about $12 million last year. They are just stripping the incentives out this year.Based on his numbers, they're overpaying. But there's nothing wrong with rewarding the guy for tearing it up in the postseason last year.They are going to pay him more than twice last year's salary (5.5 million), for putting up nearly identical numbers to what he put up in 2008?Yanks resign Pettitte: 1yr, $11.75m
Forgot about the incentives.Actually, with incentives he made about $12 million last year. They are just stripping the incentives out this year.Based on his numbers, they're overpaying. But there's nothing wrong with rewarding the guy for tearing it up in the postseason last year.They are going to pay him more than twice last year's salary (5.5 million), for putting up nearly identical numbers to what he put up in 2008?Yanks resign Pettitte: 1yr, $11.75m
Yeah, Pettitte's doing well for himself playing on a series of one-year deals. Had he signed a two year deal back in the 2008 offseason, there's no way he'd have gotten 2 years for $24 million.Actually, with incentives he made about $12 million last year. They are just stripping the incentives out this year.Based on his numbers, they're overpaying. But there's nothing wrong with rewarding the guy for tearing it up in the postseason last year.They are going to pay him more than twice last year's salary (5.5 million), for putting up nearly identical numbers to what he put up in 2008?Yanks resign Pettitte: 1yr, $11.75m
