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How do you see the T.Y. Hilton/DHB Split working out? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Man of Zen
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DirtyCashDylan
Footballguy
Are you going to state an opinion or just post smarmy comments? If you think I should hold on to Hilton with a bench made up of David Wilsons and Steven Jacksons, I'd like to hear it. We're not questioning his talent (I drafted him in the 7th), just how much they're going to use him.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Hmmmmm. Tempted to cut him loose as I need to patch up some holes on my team. I'm sure I'd regret it if I did.
DirtyCashDylan
Footballguy
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Are people holding both of these guys? Dropping? I'm a little concerned with Richardson there now. Maybe there won't be enough targets to make all of Wayne, DHB, Hilton and Fleener fantasy viable...
Going to wait and see how much of Hilton's lack of targets was due to his injury. Won't start him this week, but certainly won't cut him.
Pretty sure I'm gonna go with Hilton over Bowe for my WR3. Alex Smith won't throw the ball more than 5 yards downfield so that limits Bowe. My concern with Hilton is that the Jags are horrible and Colts should get up early so they might abandon the pass and go run first. Hopefully Hilton can do some damage early before that happens.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Moved him in a deal this week that freed up a spot where I was able to pickup Nate Washington. I was actually considering dropping TY outright for Washington. I'm spooked by the desire of this team to become a power running offense. I sense that TY will be boom or bust all season and I'll let his new owner deal with that headache.
ROS, I think Nate will put up better overall stats (with less volatility) IF Britt continues to be phased out. Washington was on the wire in both my leagues (ten teamers) until this morning. Might be a decent alternative for those who've had enough of the Hilton coaster.
ROS, I think Nate will put up better overall stats (with less volatility) IF Britt continues to be phased out. Washington was on the wire in both my leagues (ten teamers) until this morning. Might be a decent alternative for those who've had enough of the Hilton coaster.
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need2know
Footballguy
I am going to continue to start him as my other options are not great. The league I have in also rewards rtn stats and I am 3-0 so I can afford to be a little more patient. .. but I am concerned. This power running crap is not good at all. I may try to come up with some trade to get rid of him if I don't see some numbers soon. I won't drop him though
cstu
Footballguy
Dropped DHB and will avoid starting Fleener unless I need to. The situation just isn't very favorable as long as both backs are healthy.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
DHB might be a nice stash and wait going forward. The Colts are rebuilding thier identity into a smash mouth team and that favors DHB on the field for his blocking ability. Also doesn't hurt to hear that TY is in a walking boot.
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
T.Y. Hilton (foot) is not practicing Friday.
Hilton was spotted in a walking boot and may have suffered a mid-week practice injury. It's not clear if his status for Sunday's game is in jeopardy. Hilton was limited to just 38 snaps due to a groin issue last week.
Source: Craig Kelley on Twitter
Sep 27 - 11:32 AM
Hilton was spotted in a walking boot and may have suffered a mid-week practice injury. It's not clear if his status for Sunday's game is in jeopardy. Hilton was limited to just 38 snaps due to a groin issue last week.
Source: Craig Kelley on Twitter
Sep 27 - 11:32 AM
cstu
Footballguy
I've been DHB's biggest proponent but watching him play it's obvious that he's being used only as a possession receiver. He might have some bigger days but I don't see much use for him in fantasy outside of a possible bye week fill in. He may be on the field a lot but I don't expect it to translate to a lot of points.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I'm not trying to talk you into picking DHB back up. It's just that I think the identity of the Colts as we have known them is going thru a major overhaul. I don't see them being that downfield passing team anymore. They are going to follow the mode of the Seahawks or Niners as a run first team, I think. If this is the case, the downfield shots to TY would diminish and the short timing routes and curls are going to be more the norm. We have to see this play out to be sure, but it looks like where this offense is heading imo.
Saint
Footballguy
Fixed. Through 3 weeks, DHB went in the 14-15th rounds in leagues compared to TY being in the 7th-8th rounds. So far, DHB has been better value. Not a proponent of either guy, but at this point DHB has performed as expected for his draft position and TY has not.
Vector
Footballguy
Saint, do you like apples?
TY - 26.7 pts
DHB - 20.2 pts
How do you like dem apples?!?!?!?
/facts
Man of Zen
Footballguy
A wasted pick from the 15th is a much, much, MUCH better value than a wasted pick from the 7th. Not sure where you're seeing these apples of yours.
Saint
Footballguy
Slow your roll dude. read the post above slowly. dhb has outscored ty 2 out of 3 weeks. ty had 1 very good week. i did not deny that. frankly, i would want consistently out of my wr2, not feast or famine every week. interpret the data anyway you want, but you are arguing a 6 pt difference between guys that were drafted 7-8 rounds between them. not sure how you think that is good value, but dhb has been the better pick thru 3 weeks based on draft spot.maybe that will change today. we'll see.
apples.
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
TY...not getting snaps, dealing with two injuries...he's primed to go off this week.
8/114/2
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Billy Bats
Footballguy
what are we doing with TY today fellas?
need2know
Footballguy
Starting for me as wr3. I get rtn stats though. .5 ppr. Over marlon brown and givens
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Considering dropping him actually. I don't know. He's so hot and cold. Seems like he's behind Wayne, DHB and Fleener most of the time. Richardson will get a lot of carries. He's on my bench in PPR right now. Starting Hartline over him in the flex. Considering dropping Hilton for Hill though.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Had him plugged into the Flex all week, the boot on Friday made me swap him out for Fleener. Such a tough call here.Billy Bats said:
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Interesting dilemna, have a related one. Picked up Fleener to cover Finley's bye, and was comfortable with sitting T.Y. for VJAX because with T.Y.'s toe potentially limiting him, that's a bump for Fleener.
With VJAX active but ailing, may just put T.Y. in instead of VJAX and hope that both Fleener and T.Y have a productive day against a very poor D. My guess is that the Colts are going to run a lot more than they need to pass today, though.
purestrength
Footballguy
Hilton looks fine. That walking-boot stuff was a scam.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Not a great performance. Not terrible either. I think he's droppable if there's someone worthwhile on waivers.
Saint
Footballguy
After week 4:
Week 1: DHB (6.3 pts) vs TY (5.0 pts)
Week 2: TY (18.4 pts) vs DHB (3.0 pts - Injured and left game)
Week 3: DHB (10.9 pts) vs TY (3.3 pts - groin injury after game?)
Week 4: TY (10.1 pts) vs DHB (6.3 pts)
Series is 2-2 after 4 weeks.
Points overall:
TY: 36.8 (WR63)
DHB: 26.5 (WR76)
Week 1: DHB (6.3 pts) vs TY (5.0 pts)
Week 2: TY (18.4 pts) vs DHB (3.0 pts - Injured and left game)
Week 3: DHB (10.9 pts) vs TY (3.3 pts - groin injury after game?)
Week 4: TY (10.1 pts) vs DHB (6.3 pts)
Series is 2-2 after 4 weeks.
Points overall:
TY: 36.8 (WR63)
DHB: 26.5 (WR76)
cstu
Footballguy
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Correct. This has been a lose/lose situation so far for fantasy owners. Nothing for either the DHB or TY camp to brag about.
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Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Both DHB and TY owners are losers because they are wasting their roster spots on inconsistent crap. The reason they are in this position is because they are both suckers who actually believed the "Reggie Wayne is getting old and lost a step in the 2nd half of last year" BS.....despite Reggie posting pretty good games last year in the 2nd half.
Man of Zen
Footballguy
I think the faulty piece of reasoning more people fell victim to was the idea Luck was going to take a significant step forward as a fantasy producer this year. Ain't happenin'.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
No. As a guy who bought in to the Hilton hype, we fell victim to the assumption that the Colts would feature him more given his innate talent and game-breaking skill.
He still has the talent, but pretty clear that he is not separating himself and that the situation doesn't look to really tilt in Hilton's favor either.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Oh hell no, not going against the Seattle D.
Sometimes FF is so random it's laughable.
Edit: but I'm glad he finally showed up.
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We Tigers
Footballguy
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Tried so hard to trade for a wr this week so I didn't have to start him (garçon bye). Thanks to my whole league for being stingy ***holes!
Man of Zen
Footballguy
That was pretty amazing to watch. He was so fast and quick, it looked like he was toying with DB's from time to time.
Would have been that much better if he could reliably catch balls that hit him in the hands.
Kudos to the few that started him. I see by online manager stats that not many owners did, this week. Looks like Hilton is indeed emerging, though I doubt it did many much good this week. I'm sure the handful of DHB drafters dropped him weeks ago, and I wish luck to those of you moving Hilton back into your lineups next week.
Would have been that much better if he could reliably catch balls that hit him in the hands.
Kudos to the few that started him. I see by online manager stats that not many owners did, this week. Looks like Hilton is indeed emerging, though I doubt it did many much good this week. I'm sure the handful of DHB drafters dropped him weeks ago, and I wish luck to those of you moving Hilton back into your lineups next week.
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