How much is too much? Homework for kids? (1 Viewer)

[RealReactions]

Im in college. try preaching this #### to the Professors.

 

[comfortably numb]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

Parents complained mainly cause it is very different from what they learned when they were in school.

Then as a parent seeing you have the answer in a very short easy math problem your kid is drawing hieroglyphics and boxes while you're like, just carry the effing 1.

It seems like a ridiculous method but teachers are acting like my kid will be smart like the orientals....time will tell.

 

[dschuler]

Here's you a funny story about common core.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/22/ohio-dad-posts-check-on-facebook-poking-fun-at-common-core/

 

[snellman]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

Parents complained mainly cause it is very different from what they learned when they were in school.

Then as a parent seeing you have the answer in a very short easy math problem your kid is drawing hieroglyphics and boxes while you're like, just carry the effing 1.

It seems like a ridiculous method but teachers are acting like my kid will be smart like the orientals....time will tell.

Haven't had to deal with it too much yet, but the biggest problem I have with it is the fact that they send all of the homework home and when my child asks for help, I can't help them because I have no idea what they are processing. (math homework) I was very good and am still good with basic math, but they are taking simple math problems and turning them in to calculus IMO.

:rantover:

 

[Courtjester]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

Parents complained mainly cause it is very different from what they learned when they were in school.

Then as a parent seeing you have the answer in a very short easy math problem your kid is drawing hieroglyphics and boxes while you're like, just carry the effing 1.

It seems like a ridiculous method but teachers are acting like my kid will be smart like the orientals....time will tell.

And therein lies the problem, my daughter last year in 5th grade was doing this stupid lattice method of math where she creates these boxes and carries things over to this other box and I kept saying well all you have to do is carry the one. Well, no if she did it that way she would be wrong. Same thing for division--63/9 --nope can't just put the 63 in a little division box with the 9 to the left of it---lets create blocks!! So then she gets frustrated I don't know the methods. I get frustrated because I can't help her.

So flash forward to this year--she changed districts--guess what? She is way behind because she is trying to do lattice and they don't want students doing that in middle school. They want it the way I was trying to show her before with carrying numbers and doing division the normal way.

 

[RCon]

I'm on board with the idea that the new methods being taught to elementary schoolers are garbage. I suspect the primary reason for a need for new methods correlates highly with a need to sell new textbooks.

And yeah, hours worth of homework each night is way too much.

 

[Hooper31]

http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

There's no "new" stuff going on. Click the link and choose a grade level. Its just lists of what kids should know by grade level. There's no such thing as a common core method.

Morons try to politicize every little thing and try to piss people off with nonsense. How do people not realize when they allow idiots to play on their emotions? Please take a minute or two and educate yourself instead of relying on a Facebook meme.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Here's you a funny story about common core.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/22/ohio-dad-posts-check-on-facebook-poking-fun-at-common-core/

OMG LOL

FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD SO TRUE! THANKS AUNT BRENDA!!!

 

[Ned]

http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

There's no "new" stuff going on. Click the link and choose a grade level. Its just lists of what kids should know by grade level. There's no such thing as a common core method.

Morons try to politicize every little thing and try to piss people off with nonsense. How do people not realize when they allow idiots to play on their emotions? Please take a minute or two and educate yourself instead of relying on a Facebook meme.

ALGEBRAIC THINKING IN FIRST GRADE???? THE MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER!!!!!!!

/facebook

Thanks for the link, teach.

 

[James Daulton]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

 

[dparker713]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

I took 8 or so AP classes in high school. This freed up my time in college to party. Oh, and I mostly only did homework in study hall or right before class.

For the OP, if your daughter is spending that much time on her homework, she probably just isn't that smart. Sorry.

 

[James Daulton]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

I took 8 or so AP classes in high school. This freed up my time in college to party. Oh, and I mostly only did homework in study hall or right before class.

For the OP, if your daughter is spending that much time on her homework, she probably just isn't that smart. Sorry.

Not my kids!

 

[glvsav37]

I'm not opposed to homework. I think its a good way to refresh what was taught that day and — at the primary grades — helps bring the parents into the cycle.

However, I feel one of the biggest issues facing education today is the limited or flat out lack of parental support at home that is working against the child. Now I know we are all FBG's and have full time educators on staff at home for our kids, but with the current stresses placed on an average middle > lower class family, having 2-3 hours a night to spend with each child is not possible.

Fractured families, dual full time working parents and those with limited to no english speaking support at home all place roadblocks on a child properly completing all the assigned homework. Yet with the increased importance on state testing and new curriculum, homework has become an essential and unfortunate part of the teaching day.

Its unfortunate that our 'education leadership' isn't taking many of our current socio-ecomonic issues into consideration when implementing all of their mandates.

 

[dparker713]

I'm not opposed to homework. I think its a good way to refresh what was taught that day and — at the primary grades — helps bring the parents into the cycle.

However, I feel one of the biggest issues facing education today is the limited or flat out lack of parental support at home that is working against the child. Now I know we are all FBG's and have full time educators on staff at home for our kids, but with the current stresses placed on an average middle > lower class family, having 2-3 hours a night to spend with each child is not possible.

Fractured families, dual full time working parents and those with limited to no english speaking support at home all place roadblocks on a child properly completing all the assigned homework. Yet with the increased importance on state testing and new curriculum, homework has become an essential and unfortunate part of the teaching day.

Its unfortunate that our 'education leadership' isn't taking many of our current socio-ecomonic issues into consideration when implementing all of their mandates.

You need to unpack that.

 

[jonessed]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

 

[Road Warriors]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

 

[larch]

Way too much homework. I would be shocked if the principle supported that much burden on a grade schooler.

What about a principal?

 

[dutch]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

Part of the reason for Common Core is to teach kids to be problem solvers and not just be outcome based. Teaching that there are different paths to the same conclusion allows for a more elastic way of thinking and develops critical thinking at an early age.

 

[dutch]

I do agree that the emphasis has turned somewhat and instead of allowing kids to choose from the palette of options the schools instead are forcing kids to become proficient at every option. Sort of defeats the purpose a bit, imo.

 

[glvsav37]

I'm not opposed to homework. I think its a good way to refresh what was taught that day and — at the primary grades — helps bring the parents into the cycle.

However, I feel one of the biggest issues facing education today is the limited or flat out lack of parental support at home that is working against the child. Now I know we are all FBG's and have full time educators on staff at home for our kids, but with the current stresses placed on an average middle > lower class family, having 2-3 hours a night to spend with each child is not possible.

Fractured families, dual full time working parents and those with limited to no english speaking support at home all place roadblocks on a child properly completing all the assigned homework. Yet with the increased importance on state testing and new curriculum, homework has become an essential and unfortunate part of the teaching day.

Its unfortunate that our 'education leadership' isn't taking many of our current socio-ecomonic issues into consideration when implementing all of their mandates.

You need to unpack that.

Here in NYS we instituted common core immediately vs rolling it out grade by grade, while at the same time instituting standardized assessment tests that were tied heavily to teacher evaluations.

So many teachers are using increased homework as a way to help 'push' the information into the students who are learning this new curriculum for the first time....because the teacher's job depends on it.

 

[glvsav37]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

Part of the reason for Common Core is to teach kids to be problem solvers and not just be outcome based. Teaching that there are different paths to the same conclusion allows for a more elastic way of thinking and develops critical thinking at an early age.

I think there is a lot of negativity around common core math for a few reasons.

1. here in NY, it was implemented immediately and not rolled out gradually grade by grade. So basically your 4th grader left in June learning the classic way of doing math and returned in Sept and now has a whole new way to look at the problems. Hence needing to re-train themselves.

2. It looks confusing to parents who have grown up on the classic system. Leaving many parents feeling helpless and stupid in front of their kid. I've heard of a few districts that produced "parent guides" that helped guide the parents thought the homework so that they can understand the material better. But its not wide spread.

3. Many parent's really don't see a need for change...2+2 is still 4.

 

[cstu]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

Parents complained mainly cause it is very different from what they learned when they were in school.

Then as a parent seeing you have the answer in a very short easy math problem your kid is drawing hieroglyphics and boxes while you're like, just carry the effing 1.

It seems like a ridiculous method but teachers are acting like my kid will be smart like the orientals....time will tell.

So true.

 

[cstu]

I plan to help my daughter understand math with any method that works. There's no 'right' way to do math at that age.

 

[dparker713]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

Part of the reason for Common Core is to teach kids to be problem solvers and not just be outcome based. Teaching that there are different paths to the same conclusion allows for a more elastic way of thinking and develops critical thinking at an early age.

I think there is a lot of negativity around common core math for a few reasons.

1. here in NY, it was implemented immediately and not rolled out gradually grade by grade. So basically your 4th grader left in June learning the classic way of doing math and returned in Sept and now has a whole new way to look at the problems. Hence needing to re-train themselves.

2. It looks confusing to parents who have grown up on the classic system. Leaving many parents feeling helpless and stupid in front of their kid. I've heard of a few districts that produced "parent guides" that helped guide the parents thought the homework so that they can understand the material better. But its not wide spread.

3. Many parent's really don't see a need for change...2+2 is still 4.

What is the purpose of the new methods? Because they just look overly complicated. I've taken plenty of higher level math classes and I can't see how complicating arithmetic would help.

 

[snellman]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

Part of the reason for Common Core is to teach kids to be problem solvers and not just be outcome based. Teaching that there are different paths to the same conclusion allows for a more elastic way of thinking and develops critical thinking at an early age.

I think there is a lot of negativity around common core math for a few reasons.

1. here in NY, it was implemented immediately and not rolled out gradually grade by grade. So basically your 4th grader left in June learning the classic way of doing math and returned in Sept and now has a whole new way to look at the problems. Hence needing to re-train themselves.

2. It looks confusing to parents who have grown up on the classic system. Leaving many parents feeling helpless and stupid in front of their kid. I've heard of a few districts that produced "parent guides" that helped guide the parents thought the homework so that they can understand the material better. But its not wide spread.

3. Many parent's really don't see a need for change...2+2 is still 4.

I guess these are my 2 biggest issues with it.

RE 2: If you are going to send my child home with work that is fine, but then you better educate me on how to help my child with the problems rather than telling my child that dad is "doing it the wrong way"

3. Maybe this will help when they get to more complicated math, but I do not understand the need to make basic arithmetic for grade schoolers more complicated than it is.

 

[Road Warriors]

I'll admit I have no idea what the big deal is about common core. Aside from my 1st and 3rd graders (seemingly) doing way more advanced things than I remember doing in those grades, I don't see what the hub bub is about.

In the simplest terms, Common Core is a list of things kids should be able to do at each grade level. Common Core doesn't endorse any specific method in getting students to meet those objectives.

I understand that much, but I don't understand why so many parents get bent out of shape if you even mention common core. Are these parents against it because their kids are falling behind?

Most complaints I hear are about math in particular and it's pretty easy to see why. A lot of the methods make little sense and many parents struggle to help their kids because the methods are so foreign.

Apparently math was known to be a problem though. Perhaps it will get fixed in the future.

I don't fully understand the "need" to innovate methods of learning basic math at the early grades. It seems to me that there is a basic level of math facts that should be learned, which can then be applied to more and more complex math problems as you grow. Rote can be very effective.

The different techniques for determining how to arrive at those basic facts are what the kids end up focusing on, and rather than gaining a superior understanding of the underlying theories of basic math, they gain a better understanding of how to arrive a simple answers in a complex way.

Part of the reason for Common Core is to teach kids to be problem solvers and not just be outcome based. Teaching that there are different paths to the same conclusion allows for a more elastic way of thinking and develops critical thinking at an early age.

I think there is a lot of negativity around common core math for a few reasons.

1. here in NY, it was implemented immediately and not rolled out gradually grade by grade. So basically your 4th grader left in June learning the classic way of doing math and returned in Sept and now has a whole new way to look at the problems. Hence needing to re-train themselves.

2. It looks confusing to parents who have grown up on the classic system. Leaving many parents feeling helpless and stupid in front of their kid. I've heard of a few districts that produced "parent guides" that helped guide the parents thought the homework so that they can understand the material better. But its not wide spread.

3. Many parent's really don't see a need for change...2+2 is still 4.

This is me. The basics are the basics. Creating "elastic" thinking around basic math facts feels like the wrong approach, and at the younger grades, creates focus on the process. The kids don't see multiple ways to a solution, they see the rather complicated way to a very simple solution, and when, as a parent, you try to introduce another (simpler) way to the solution, the kids push back "That's not how we do it / That's not how the teacher wants it"

 

[Hooper31]

So frustrating when you feel like you're talking to your shadow. iQuit. Facebook memes win.

 

[RCon]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

"More learning" isn't necessarily the same thing as "more homework". What many people here are arguing is that more homework becomes counter-productive at some point.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

"More learning" isn't necessarily the same thing as "more homework". What many people here are arguing is that more homework becomes counter-productive at some point.

Bingo

And I would actually say that if there is no proof that HW is beneficial then it doesn't make sense to assign it.

 

[RCon]

So frustrating when you feel like you're talking to your shadow. iQuit. Facebook memes win.

You're missing the point of the discussion taking place. Whether or not "Common Core" is to blame, the fact is that at the elementary school level in particular, math is now being taught via some very odd methods. Many people (including me) are arguing that those methods are silly, counter-productive, and downright wrong. In my daughter's 3rd grade class, the teacher showed us this problem:

47 + 8 = ___ + 2

In which the children are supposed to determine what goes in the blank space. The teacher then had a series of diagrams about "simple numbers" and equations, resulting in the expression:

57 = 57 - 2

Concluding that the answer was 55. Sorry, but that's just wrong. Not only was the answer wrong, the entire process used to arrive at the answer was wrong. It wasn't "alternate thinking"; it was wrong, period.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So frustrating when you feel like you're talking to your shadow. iQuit. Facebook memes win.

You're missing the point of the discussion taking place. Whether or not "Common Core" is to blame, the fact is that at the elementary school level in particular, math is now being taught via some very odd methods. Many people (including me) are arguing that those methods are silly, counter-productive, and downright wrong. In my daughter's 3rd grade class, the teacher showed us this problem:

47 + 8 = ___ + 2

In which the children are supposed to determine what goes in the blank space. The teacher then had a series of diagrams about "simple numbers" and equations, resulting in the expression:

57 = 57 - 2

Concluding that the answer was 55. Sorry, but that's just wrong. Not only was the answer wrong, the entire process used to arrive at the answer was wrong. It wasn't "alternate thinking"; it was wrong, period.

Well there you have it.

 

[STBootleg]

This is me. The basics are the basics. Creating "elastic" thinking around basic math facts feels like the wrong approach, and at the younger grades, creates focus on the process. The kids don't see multiple ways to a solution, they see the rather complicated way to a very simple solution, and when, as a parent, you try to introduce another (simpler) way to the solution, the kids push back "That's not how we do it / That's not how the teacher wants it"

This is what I get from my daughter and it's very frustrating at times.

 

[James Daulton]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

"More learning" isn't necessarily the same thing as "more homework". What many people here are arguing is that more homework becomes counter-productive at some point.

Bingo

And I would actually say that if there is no proof that HW is beneficial then it doesn't make sense to assign it.

Counter productive to what? Playing video games? Texting on their phones? From my personal experience, kids, even with a lot of homework, still manage to fit in all the recreational stuff they want to do. And I still believe that having to be organized and manage their time well will serve them favorably in high school, college, and the rest of their life.

Doesn't practice make perfect?

 

[Lutherman2112]

http://www.corestandards.org/Math/

There's no "new" stuff going on. Click the link and choose a grade level. Its just lists of what kids should know by grade level. There's no such thing as a common core method.

Morons try to politicize every little thing and try to piss people off with nonsense. How do people not realize when they allow idiots to play on their emotions? Please take a minute or two and educate yourself instead of relying on a Facebook meme.

Excellent and short video re: math.

https://youtu.be/tBkQAxt1JXA

 

[RCon]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

"More learning" isn't necessarily the same thing as "more homework". What many people here are arguing is that more homework becomes counter-productive at some point.

Bingo

And I would actually say that if there is no proof that HW is beneficial then it doesn't make sense to assign it.

Counter productive to what? Playing video games? Texting on their phones? From my personal experience, kids, even with a lot of homework, still manage to fit in all the recreational stuff they want to do. And I still believe that having to be organized and manage their time well will serve them favorably in high school, college, and the rest of their life.

Doesn't practice make perfect?

Counter-productive to learning, obviously. Multiple hours of homework every night, in fifth grade, is pretty clearly too much. I would also suggest that much homework is counter-productive to learning. It will turn the students off towards school and learning in general. Surely you're not suggesting that there's no limit to the amount of homework that would be useful, productive, and increase students' learning?

 

[shader]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

not at the cost of children's childhood.

 

[shader]

To be fair, I don't really have a problem with Common Core. I actually think a lot of it makes sense, even though at times it seems complicated and unnecessary. I've promised my daughter that there is a learning gap that she needs to get past. Once she does, she'll knock this stuff out quickly.

According to her, a lot of kids are getting F's for not doing all their homework, the teachers are telling the kids "school comes first, then everything else" and in general, the kids are all frustrated.

Since my daughter is still making A's, I told her not to worry about it. These rich (not me)parents in this county won't stand for their kids getting F's. I suspect there are a ton of heated conversations going on at the school right now. We'll sit back for a few weeks.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I will agree that my middle and high school (I don't remember elementary being that bad) kids had far more homework than I ever did. However, the strong students these days are taking calculus in junior year and have probably finished high school with AP calc, bio, physics, etc. Learning seems to have been accelerated and I bet it's not that different than other well educated countries in the rest of the world. This frees the kids up to take more major specific classes in college. Also, the homework going from high school to college was not a shock at all and the kids are well used to budgeting their time appropriately.

I am all for more learning.

"More learning" isn't necessarily the same thing as "more homework". What many people here are arguing is that more homework becomes counter-productive at some point.

Bingo

And I would actually say that if there is no proof that HW is beneficial then it doesn't make sense to assign it.

Counter productive to what? Playing video games? Texting on their phones? From my personal experience, kids, even with a lot of homework, still manage to fit in all the recreational stuff they want to do. And I still believe that having to be organized and manage their time well will serve them favorably in high school, college, and the rest of their life.

Doesn't practice make perfect?

You should have done more reading homework.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Homework is wrecking our kids.