Oh....ok....I'll wait.
I heard about it yesterday....is the news on a delay?
Or....is it just "Trump positive" news that's on the delay?
You keep us all posted as it rolls out...okay?
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How much Voter Fraud is Happening (1 Viewer)
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I heard about it yesterday....is the news on a delay?
Or....is it just "Trump positive" news that's on the delay?
You keep us all posted as it rolls out...okay?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Well...even the Trump networks have not reported it...it seems it was only posted so far on a statement on the website vs. any formal announcement.
And its an addition to an existing program that probably didn't get much distribution with you know...everything else going on.
But yeah...complain about the unfairness...Im sure that's it.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Umm...ok.
Just pointing out that no major news network of any kind has reported it. Not Fox, not OANN...not any of the normal right wing sources people like to use.
It shows up on Business Insider India and "Threatpost" as far as the name of the program is concerned.
The reward is now hitting regular business insider, AP...with the State Dept also announcing Russia is still pushing online disinformation.
https://apnews.com/1b849309f54ffba3921fc97b62d0df68
No...it hit AP yesterday...buried under the headline: State Dept.: Russia pushes disinformation in online network
If it were Trump picking his nose, it would be headlines today.
As it is...it isn't even a side-bar.
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The Commish
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So....now we care about interfering in elections? Huh....interesting. 
sho nuff
Footballguy
And updated in the last 4 hours. So it likely hit late yesterday.
And that was the headline because its what the state department was announcing.
You want to complain about the media. And now seem to be claiming even bias by the AP because of the headline.
None of the pro republican/pro Trump sources have reported it either...so its not some lefty media thing holding this. I suspect it will hot most of them today.
And given what the AP reported...the reward is a sidebar at best.
Mile High
Footballguy
Maybe spend 10 million on actually doing something to protect our elections. A reward after the fact doesn't do that.So....now we care about interfering in elections? Huh....interesting.
Nobody seemed to care about it during the last election...So....now we care about interfering in elections? Huh....interesting.
..that is...until somebody lost that election.
The Commish
Footballguy
Even then, many continued to not care about it...which is the point. Interesting how some of you change your tune.
The Commish
Footballguy
I think it's pretty safe to say, logic and practical solutions have no place in the "voter fraud" threads. I would appreciate it if you'd stop with that nonsense.
Boston
Footballguy
Since voter fraud is a crime that would effect many people there should be Draconian consequences for it...if we are going to go to mail-in voting we need to ensure that there is no funny business because it will probably not be overly difficult to do (or at least attempt to do)...the penalties needs to be so harsh that it really isn't worth the risk for anyone doing it (or masterminding it) and if they do they should receive no sympathy...put in harsh penalties like a 10 year no chance of parole sentence as well as feds/local authorities dedicated to this enforcement and I think a lot of people who are leery of it will feel much more comfortable with it.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its again not my fault you made a ridiculous point.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/05/politics/state-department-russian-disinformation-report/index.html
Also CNN also had it under the same as the AP.
In Miami-Dade, you can check if your ballot has arrived, either by phone or the internet. I'm not sure about other places.
sho nuff
Footballguy
There are safeguards in places yes. And they all should have been developing more since March.
I voted early for the primary here (election today) and will do the same for the general. Part if it was i didnt trust the challenges when they said they would allow anyone to vote by mail. And the TN SC overturned that yesterday. Actually haven’t yet read whether that affects people for the primary at all. If so and people who dont then qualify and voted by mail...would they then have to get there today for their vote to count.
Mile High
Footballguy
In Colorado they actually notify you by email or text telling you they got your ballot. You also get a link to also check.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
I'll be voting in-person. Wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart. Potentially gloves, definitely bringing hand sanitizer.
I'd encourage this for folks under 65 and without serious underlying conditions.
Frankly if you're 65 or over, maybe just consider sitting this one out. Voting by mail is apparently questionable, and you shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks.
I'd encourage this for folks under 65 and without serious underlying conditions.
Frankly if you're 65 or over, maybe just consider sitting this one out. Voting by mail is apparently questionable, and you shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks.
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Boston
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You also get a $5 coupon from Subway...”this election is brought to you by Subway, eat fresh!”
The Commish
Footballguy
I'll say for the billionth time....if something goes wrong, it will be because of the execution. There are mounds of evidence that suggest the concept is just fine with proper planning. These boogeymen being created are comical.
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Green Balloons
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Mile High
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Lutherman2112
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For those that prefer reading with some additional links.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/
sho nuff
Footballguy
So less of an issue of Fraud and more that the postal service blows...which is why states have safeguards to be able to check and be notified that your ballot was received.
dkp993
Footballguy
So now MSM reporting is to be trusted again? Or is it just when it fits a narrative you agree with? Some consistency would be nice here.
The Commish
Footballguy
You should be cheering this on, no? The statistical analysis comes out in an over whelming way for the GOP when votes are lost or suppressed.
You guys need to get the talking points in order here.
Of course this situation they are presenting as a crisis, is easily solved by dropping your ballot in the secure boxes at polling places. If the above is a concern, that's the solution.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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One thing that I found frustrating about this news story was that it sort of ended in the middle of the story. According to the story, 97% of of the first group of ballots were received in a week. 79% of the second group of ballots were received in four days. But then what? Did those last ballots trickle in a few days later? If so, this doesn't really seem like a big deal at all -- as far as I know states only require that ballots be postmarked by election day, not actually received by that day.
If 3% of mailed-in ballots are really getting routinely lost, I agree that seems like a problem. But I don't think the linked news report makes clear that's what's going on. The story is like two weeks old, is there any update on the missing ballots?
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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shadrap
Footballguy
yea & my dead sister in law got one in her name delivered to my address because I filed her last year of taxes after she was deceased. so not a slam on the USPS but a major league slam against government in general.
pathetic really.
I mailed the check back.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I’m sorry. :(
that seems be an issue not with the usps. The check should not have cut or sent. My condolences.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Probably the usual with government systems where the data sets don't match or aren’t compatible...because different companies built the different systems and matching one with the other sucks bad.
The Commish
Footballguy
Wasnt even going to go into "the process" they used, but appreciate that you did. I had the same reaction.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
A lot of people are saying that the real reason Trump hates vote by mail is because he rigged the voting machines.
Mile High
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
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Mile High
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joffer
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Juxtatarot
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The Commish
Footballguy
All I know is that if I had a multi-million dollar winning lottery ticket....I wouldn't mail it in to claim it.
The General
Footballguy
Changed tune?
Exactly who was at the helm during the 2016 election?
Did that POTUS offer a $10 million bounty on outing any foreign election meddler? (they spent $25 million trying to invent one)
Who was it that became concerned after they lost the 2016 election?
Who was it who did nothing to combat election fraud during the 2016 election? (actually said that it couldn't happen)
Only one party seems to be concerned about mail in ballots and are saying something.
Will the other party, all of a sudden, become concerned after they lose the election...again?
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