hutchins929
Footballguy
Before he signs wherever he ends up signing.
Reverse that also... How much would you take for him?
Reverse that also... How much would you take for him?
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How much would you offer for Matt Flynn? (1 Viewer)
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Roughly after where Griffin will go. Around that spot.
I am deep at QB though. The risk of holding him is that he ends up somewhere totally terrible and the value drops. While he's still a mystery might be the time to strike.
I am deep at QB though. The risk of holding him is that he ends up somewhere totally terrible and the value drops. While he's still a mystery might be the time to strike.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Flynn will probably be franchised and then traded like Cassel was. It will be a roll of the dice as to where he ends up. How much value would he have in CLE? SEA? MIA? Etc.?
cstu
Footballguy
People thought Schaub would be an elite QB but he has been inconsistent and not lived up to expectations. I'm hesitant of ranking a 27 year old first time starting QB who is switching teams too high.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
I picked him up midseason in a 22-man dyno with the sole purpose of selling him to the highest bidder in the offseason (have Newton as my #1). I would take any upside young player at RB or WR(preferable) or any 1st round rookie pick in '12 or '13 for Flynn.
No way. Good luck getting a top 6 rookie pick for flynn
joey
Footballguy
I packaged Flynn up with my 1.10, Denarius Moore, J Ford and V Brown for the 2012 1.01.
It's a 12 team. Keep 12, non-ppr league, fwiw, and I wouldve probably only kept D Moore out of that group.
Other team needed young talent with upside badly.
Not sure if this helps the discussion but I thought I'd share since this just went down.
It's a 12 team. Keep 12, non-ppr league, fwiw, and I wouldve probably only kept D Moore out of that group.
Other team needed young talent with upside badly.
Not sure if this helps the discussion but I thought I'd share since this just went down.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Draft pick wise, in my 2QB league, I'm thinking 1.5 or higher would probably work. I own him though. I was looking at my QBs and I'd slot them,
Rivers
Romo
Cutler
Flynn
Bradford
Josh Johnson
Rivers
Romo
Cutler
Flynn
Bradford
Josh Johnson
Really? I don't think anyone pointed to "elite" (or else he would not have been traded), so I don't think he has missed expectations. He is probably a better fantasy QB than real life one, but he was traded for two 2nds...he certainly surpassed that value.
cstu
Footballguy
Elite was too much but a lot of people thought he would be top 10 QB after a year or two in Houston. Considering the alternative was to take Brady Quinn or take up for Russell I think the Texans did very, very well.
Illegal Pants Downfield
Footballguy
Are you talking rookie pick 1.02? If so, why haven't you made that move?
Donsmith753
Footballguy
That's Andrew Luck/TR for Matt Flynn, do it.
SWC
Bromigo
he should be worth a lot becuase if he can throw just4 tds every day he will be one of the best qbs ever to play the game so give this some serious thought before you all dismiss how much you would pay for him because it could end up being like passing on michael jordan to draft lancaster gordon
Abraham
Footballguy
I still may. But currently I'm inclined to hold on to him. Keep in mind that a 24 team league means only 1/3 of teams (or fewer) actually has a backup qb that starts in the NFL. That and the scoring (6 point all Tds, 3 points for those over 40 yards) makes quarterbacks unbelievably valuable even if they aren't that good. Didn't mean to start a discussion on my league, just giving an example of his value in a particular situation.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
This.
Boston
Footballguy
I think the big question you have to ask is out-of-the-teams that will probably be looking for a QB how many are fantasy-friendly...after that are they in a position to draft Luck or Griffin or do you think they will be looking for a veteran like Arizona was with Kolb...that's the part of the equation that will ultimately determine Flynn's value (at least in the short-term)...
GeauxTigers
Footballguy
He won the National Championship at LSU and looks like Matt Damon. Keep 'em! 
No way is Flynn worth a #2 WR IMO. He's worth a 2nd rounder this season, no more.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You really rate Matt Flynn higher than Bradford? Obviously the hype of last weeken'd game is going to get everyone overly excited, but I think Flynn is destined to be an average NFL and fantasy QB outside of Green Bay.
Shutout
Footballguy
As opposed to ranking a college kid that hasn't played a game in the NFL?The thing that helps Flynn in this case is that the Packers are known for developing QBs that go out and DO have very nice careers for other teams.
Shutout
Footballguy
This is why people should really re-think things when they are saying flynn shouldn't fetch anything higher than a rookie 12 or so pick. People need to remember just how much the draft is when comparing a name that will be hyped for the next few months Vs. a player that has actually demonstrated themself in the NFL. Most leagues will draft Luck and RG3 inside the top 8 or so easily, and while everyone is optimistic now, there is NO guarantee they will go to a good spot, start soon, or pan out. How good was Quinn or Russell? Sanchez? Ryan Leaf (toss him in there because, at the time, people honestly thought it was a coin flip between him and Peyton manning).
Point is: look at the known and the completely unknown and if you are selling Flynn in your dynasty, THIS is your legitimate point in asking price. You have seen him play well against the Patriots last year, at spot times here and there, and now against a team that had everything to play for. And you know that he will be a starter somewhere next year. And at his age, he is just getting to that sweet spot for QBs in the next few seasons.
I think Flynn is a player that will gain leverage significantly in a trade like this in dynasties over the next few months and especially if Luck and RG3 end up in less than ideal spots. Let's say the Colts keep Manning, draft Luck, and Luck gets to watch and learn for 2-3 years. An owner wanting/needing a starting QB now might rethink. Especially since luck wont be super young when HE finally gets to start and people ahve to consider that when Luck DOES start, this will be a completely different team in terms of coaches and players.
So let's say that RG3 goes to Jax or Cleveland. Does he look more enticing than if Flynn goes to Washington or Miami or Seattle or some surprising place?
I think both sides will gamble more by trading flynn sooner than later but I'm willing to bet that there will be enough media rumors thrown out there to have someone knocking on Flynn owner's doors this offseason.
az_prof
Footballguy
I agree. It is not unusual for QBs to have a few good games as backups, but then fail when they get the chance to start. He is no sure thing. I would rather have Luck or even Tebow for that matter. You don't know where he is going to play or who his receivers will be. And you don't know how he will perform over an extended period of time.
