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How will CV affect the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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Capella
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pantherclub
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greedygoat
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https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/20200504/miami-dolphins-have-social-distancing-plan-for-15000-fans?utm_source=SFMC&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The Palm Beach Post breaking-coronavirus 2020-05-0418:15:32&utm_content=GCOX_WPB&utm_term=050420
Miami Dolphins have social-distancing plan for 15,000 fans
Dolphins games with “capacity” crowds of 15,000 are a possibility this season according to plans the organization is drawing up amid the coronavirus pandemic, Tom Garfinkel, the club’s president, vice chairman and CEO, told “Good Morning America” on Monday.
The GMA report included a mock-up of what Hard Rock Stadium might look like in this social-distancing era, including spots on the ground at entry gates to keep fans at least 6 feet apart.
ESPN reported that Hard Rock became the first public facility to receive “STAR” accreditation from the Global Biorisk Advisory Council, which issues standards for disinfecting and cleaning to prevent infectious agents.
“We would have times to come in for security at different gates so people would be separated out in terms of when they enter the stadium,” Garfinkel said. “We would exit the stadium much like a church environment, where each row exists to people aren’t filing out all at the same time in a herd.”
In a town where fans frequently rush to beat the traffic after games, it’s unclear how that exit strategy would be enforced.
The NFL is expected to release the 2020 schedule this week, although reports are the league has contingency plans if a 16-game schedule is not feasible
A report out of the UK over the weekend said the NFL will scrap its international series games this season, meaning the Dolphins would not play in London as originally planned.
Garfinkel told GMA that rather than long lines at concessions, fans would order food, take-out style, from their seats and then pick it up.
“When our fans, players and staff are able to return to Hard Rock Stadium, we want them to have peace of mind that we’re doing everything we can to create the safest and healthiest environment possible,” Garfinkel told ESPN. “We didn’t want to create our own standard. We wanted to be accountable to the most credible third-party standard that exists. Working with the GBAC ensures compliances with critical guidelines for the highest standard of cleanliness and it is our hope that other venues will follow suit as we navigate through these unprecedented times.”
Miami Dolphins have social-distancing plan for 15,000 fans
Dolphins games with “capacity” crowds of 15,000 are a possibility this season according to plans the organization is drawing up amid the coronavirus pandemic, Tom Garfinkel, the club’s president, vice chairman and CEO, told “Good Morning America” on Monday.
The GMA report included a mock-up of what Hard Rock Stadium might look like in this social-distancing era, including spots on the ground at entry gates to keep fans at least 6 feet apart.
ESPN reported that Hard Rock became the first public facility to receive “STAR” accreditation from the Global Biorisk Advisory Council, which issues standards for disinfecting and cleaning to prevent infectious agents.
“We would have times to come in for security at different gates so people would be separated out in terms of when they enter the stadium,” Garfinkel said. “We would exit the stadium much like a church environment, where each row exists to people aren’t filing out all at the same time in a herd.”
In a town where fans frequently rush to beat the traffic after games, it’s unclear how that exit strategy would be enforced.
The NFL is expected to release the 2020 schedule this week, although reports are the league has contingency plans if a 16-game schedule is not feasible
A report out of the UK over the weekend said the NFL will scrap its international series games this season, meaning the Dolphins would not play in London as originally planned.
Garfinkel told GMA that rather than long lines at concessions, fans would order food, take-out style, from their seats and then pick it up.
“When our fans, players and staff are able to return to Hard Rock Stadium, we want them to have peace of mind that we’re doing everything we can to create the safest and healthiest environment possible,” Garfinkel told ESPN. “We didn’t want to create our own standard. We wanted to be accountable to the most credible third-party standard that exists. Working with the GBAC ensures compliances with critical guidelines for the highest standard of cleanliness and it is our hope that other venues will follow suit as we navigate through these unprecedented times.”
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Schefter mentioned on his podcast that with teams projected to lose $100 million per franchise by playing with empty stadiums for a full season (if it came to that), that would knock down league revenue by $3.2 billion. If that happened and they reset the salary cap using a similar formula as they have been, the salary cap next year would drop by $30-80 million per team. I have no idea how they would handle that.
zoonation
Footballguy
I think it will ultimately come down to the owners. If the tv revenue is enough to be profitable, they will play. because there will be no one in the stands in 2020.
facook
Footballguy
Truth is probably both. To consider what is probably the most well-known team:zoonation said:
If Jerry Jones says, "It's not safe! We're not playing!" Dak and Zeke et al are not playing.
If Dak and Zeke et al say "It's not safe! We're not playing!" They are not playing.
Both sides have to agree.
zoonation
Footballguy
agree. But the owners won’t both take the risk (covid) and lose money. The players will play. Their safety can basically be guaranteed with testing.
JaxBill
Footballguy
If Dak and Zeke et al say "It's not safe! We're not playing!" then Jerrah says "Fine. If this season never happens I don't have to pay 'guaranteed ' money and players lose a year toward free agency."
Oh and the bulk of the players get their money in game day checks.
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Peyton Marino
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CletiusMaximus
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Bad news for Trevor Lawrence.Anarchy99 said:
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'm not sure why you singled him out. The days of huge contracts awarded to top draft picks is long gone, and there is a sliding pay scale for draft picks. Relatively speaking, draft picks are cheap compared to established veterans. Lawrence would not be impacted at all.
If the salary cap were to get gashed, I think the overpaid vets on the last year of their contracts in 2021 would be most at risk. And anyone set to become a free agent would likely to have to take a lot less money. I have no idea how they would try to address the problem, as so many players with recent contracts would still have guarantees that would leave their teammates in hot water. I don't think the league or the NFLPA ever had any contingencies or fail safe plans if the salary cap went down (seeing how it has always gone up).
No one knows how owners would try to recoup their losses. Maybe they would jack up the ticket prices and up costs for parking / concessions / memorabilia / advertising. Talk on the radio seemed to think the owners were going to worry about their profits more than the fallout to the players. Hopefully it won't come to that.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Within a few years there will be hundreds of posters in the Shark Pool doing Mock Schedules and the sports networks will all employ Schedulenicks who argue about how the schedule will be formulated. There will be weeks of pre-shedule speculation leading up to the big event, which will be broadcast on multiple networks over several days. Within days after the schedule release extravaganza, these experts will be releasing their mock schedules for the following season.
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[scooter]
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JaxBill
Footballguy
interesting. perhaps a heads-up contingency plan by NFL
@denizselman33: I've seen talk of Week 2 games slotted into the byes but just now noticing Weeks 3+4: no division games AND all 32 teams have one home and one away game. One month delay could mean 14 game season with no bye+Week 1 played at the end. @SheilKapadia @Bo_Wulf @JimmyKempski @ZBerm https://twitter.com/denizselman33/status/1259383934841954305/photo/1
@denizselman33: I've seen talk of Week 2 games slotted into the byes but just now noticing Weeks 3+4: no division games AND all 32 teams have one home and one away game. One month delay could mean 14 game season with no bye+Week 1 played at the end. @SheilKapadia @Bo_Wulf @JimmyKempski @ZBerm https://twitter.com/denizselman33/status/1259383934841954305/photo/1
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I dont really see the point in all that. One month delay?? What would be the purpose of a 1 month delay? Literally nothing will be different regarding the virus.
I suppose the only purpose really for a delay is to somehow figure out the logistics of how things will run on game days, but gotta figure they are PROBABLY working on that right now, and they have quite a while to get that figured out.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I'm sure they'll be going through some dry runs before the season even starts to make sure they have as much as they can ironed out.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Probably. No fans though outside of some VIPs, and there wont be any sort of "delay". Any reason that would cause a delay would just mean no season. They could play a game this week. There will be no difference between this week or in september regarding simply playing a fanless game.
There wont be a vaccine widely distributed any time this year.
Question is, how does the league approach things when a few high profile players get corona, and if a couple players/coaches die.
Zegras11
Footballguy
They are already working on testing that can be done in a few minutes. People will be tested before they enter.
[scooter]
Footballguy
A one month delay is pointless. The only two scenarios are "with fans" or "without fans", and you don't need to postpone the season to figure that out.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
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If they want to delay the season for a month or two to give teams a better opportunity to get things in order so be it. Not necessary though
[scooter]
Footballguy
This type of testing is the future.
BUT......if each test costs more than the price of a ticket.....then this type of mass testing wouldn't be feasible. It would be cheaper for the NFL to just play the games without fans.
Zegras11
Footballguy
With the confidence that the NFL has shown with the draft and releasing the schedule, I'm pretty confident they already know that a very low cost solution is very possible and in the works.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Cost of the test, cost of personnel to perform the test, testing starting 8 hours before the game, mass herds or people crammed into each other waiting in line..........
No
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Or it just means they are going on with business as usual.....until they cant.
They draft HAD to be done. What was the alternative?
facook
Footballguy
You do know that there is often such a thing as "somewhere in the middle", right? Maybe they have 1/3 of the fans, or 1/4. It's not all or nothing necessarily.
And they don't have to necessarily TEST every fan (they could scan them) if they can ensure every family of fans is socially distanced.
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JaxBill
Footballguy
Yes, you're probably right on all accounts. However if you're scheduling a multi billion dollar industry, you better have a fall back plan in case the governor of CA or any other state runs interference.
Joe Mammy
Footballguy
I didn't renew my Bucs tix because of the lightning delays. They vacate the stands and everyone has to cram into the concourses and common areas. It was very hot and uncomfortable and some lasted as long as two hours and it didn't even rain! One time we didn't even hear thunder. No way to distance 6'.
[scooter]
Footballguy
COVID does not care that Roger Goodell is confident.
The virus will be raging just as badly in September as it is in May. And no basketball or baseball team would think of playing games in front of fans right now.
Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
Feels like the trajectory is for this to be a non-issue by September or soon after. Not in the sense that the virus will be gone. Rather that we will have figured out to manage the virus both for the vast majority who have nothing to fear and for the population of people who will need to take precautions. I'm sure for some that will sound outrageous but combining the knowledge we've gained and the incentive for businesses to generate revenue, I think we'll see fan attended events this year.
Zegras11
Footballguy
It's already not raging in the vast majority of America. As I said in my first post, we are still four months away and only two months into this.
And totally absurd that ghost mentioned 8 hours to get into the game. An extra hour at most. The results will take a minute or two.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Imagine the extra security required to make sure fans aren't getting too close to other fans (who aren't members of their group).
Imagine the disclaimer over the PA before the game, stating "The NFL will not be held responsible if you catch COVID from one of our employees, vendors, or random fans..."
Imagine what happens after the first super-spreader attends a game and infects a thousand other fans.
Imagine what happens when half a team gets infected. Does the team just forfeit the next 3 weeks? Do they play with replacement players?
The NFL can act as confident as they want. COVID don't care.
Zegras11
Footballguy
facook
Footballguy
Imagine fans no older than 50 attending, and each signing a waiver they won't hold the team or league responsible.
Imagine not being held prisoner by crippling fear and actually remembering that all of life involved managing risk.
Imagine not spreading doom and gloom. Can you? I can.
[scooter]
Footballguy
They don't play NFL games in rural Idaho. Almost every stadium is located in a city that currently has a ban on large gatherings. Do you really think that all those cities will have those bans lifted within 3 1/2 months?
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