I dropped Shonn Greene (1 Viewer)

[Chaser1439]

Rbs in my league are so hard to come by. I let frustration get the best of me when I dropped Greene after his terrible week 4 performance. I suppose I learned a valuable lesson, but still not an easy pill to swallow.

 

[TheWick]

His next 3 games he won't score or get over 50 yards...don't sweat it.

 

[Shutout]

You did the right thing.

 

[Annyong]

basically had to give a guy joe flacco to take greene off my hands to get donald brown in return.

 

[Resident A]

I hung onto him, trying like heck to sell.

 

[ponchsox]

He had his big game of the last few years, don't worry about it. Back to 12/26 next week.

 

[Buck Stop]

You did the right thing.

and also

 

[Maven]

LOL Shon Greene is trash. IND has a horrible run defense. Stop trippin!

 

[tdhartis]

He had his big game of the last few years, don't worry about it. Back to 12/26 next week.

For those interested, all of Greene's games in which he went over 75 yards rushing2009: (WEEK) - ATTEMPTS - YARDS- YPC - TDs(7) - 19 - 144 - 7.58 - 2(15) - 16 - 95 - 5.94 - 0(17) - 21 - 135 - 6.43 - 1(18) - 23 - 128 - 5.57 - 12010:(4) - 22 - 117 - 5.32 - 0(18) - 17 - 76 - 4.47 - 12011:(5) - 21 - 83 - 3.93 - 1(7) - 20 - 112 - 5.60 - 0(8) - 19 - 76 - 4.00 - 0(11) - 13 - 78 - 6.00 - 0(12) - 22 - 88 - 4.00 - 3(13) - 24 - 129 - 5.38 - 12012:(1) - 27 - 94 - 3.48 -1(6) - 32 - 161 - 5.03 - 3I actually went and looked out of curiousity - not to disprove your point. He is very inconsistent over the past few years (being his entire career), and I had almost forgotten how good he was during that 2009 season. His YPC has gone down significant each year since then. It actually surprised me how many decent games he had last year and how much he has fallen off this year in the small sample size thus far. For example, besides the two games this season listed above he has not exceeded 40 yards rushing once this season. Also, he failed to average 3.5 YPC or higher only four times last year - something he has already FIVE times so far in 2012. If anything, people would be pleased if he performed at 2011 levels. All in all it is astonishing how poor he is valued while being the starting RB on a run-first team that has performed decently throughout his career (and well at the beginning of it.) That being said, I am trying to shop him for whatever upgrade I can at this point and I have had no takers. His name has negative value.

 

[Banger]

agree with the other sentiments....what's the difference if he was on your bench or you dropped him? He likely wasn't in your lineup unless you had bye week issues anyway. It was his career game...he's back to 6 pts a week from here on out.

 

[SameSongNDance]

All you did was lose possible trade bait, don't sweat it.

 

[mquinnjr]

You dropped a starter. A crappy starter (most weeks), but a starter nonetheless who is not in a committee. They are gone by the 6th round of real leagues for a reason.

You don't drop them to the WW.

 

[Resident A]

I reluctantly drafted Greene again this year, though well after his ADP & knew he'd be bad, but not as bad as he was Weeks 2-5.

What I saw this week was an AMAZING improvement in his vision & shiftiness. Sure Indy's D is not good, and the O-line blocking was solid, but he was making tacklers miss, cutting back, and powering through people. It's almost like it was another player wearing Greene's uniform.

I don't know what got into Greene, but if he can maintain even 75% of what he showed week 6, he's a viable RB2.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

The Jets had a tremendously hard schedule against the run to start the year, anyone who drafted him who thought he was going to dominate coming out of the gate was kidding themselves. The schedule gets much lighter from here. I wouldnt expect 160 and 3 again but he is a good rb2 who will get most if not all of the carries on a team that is dying to run the ball. If you dropped him, you made a mistake, plain and simple.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I reluctantly drafted Greene again this year, though well after his ADP & knew he'd be bad, but not as bad as he was Weeks 2-5.What I saw this week was an AMAZING improvement in his vision & shiftiness. Sure Indy's D is not good, and the O-line blocking was solid, but he was making tacklers miss, cutting back, and powering through people. It's almost like it was another player wearing Greene's uniform. I don't know what got into Greene, but if he can maintain even 75% of what he showed week 6, he's a viable RB2.

Burst too, you forgot to mention that he had burst. I'm technically a NYJ fan, so I've extensively watched Greene play since he came into the league. What we first witnessed during the 2009 playoffs has proven to be a facade and a symptom of fresh legs. Since then, he's been nothing short of awful. He has zero vision, seemingly content with running into the OL, zero burst and no hands to speak of. I don't know who was wearing #23 last week, but it wasn't the same Greene I've watched run over the past couple years. He broke off a 20+ yard run for the first time since 2009, I was in awe.Snap back to reality..He plays NE, MIA and SEA with in the next three weeks. I dislike this schedule very much. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to have improved but he'll only be as good as the match ups will allow. If you're in a pinch, sell now before he comes crashing back down. If not, you can probably hold to see if this was indeed a fluke or not, but I wouldn't risk it.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Yeah, don't worry. He did this same thing last year. Most weeks he is worthless.

7 points

8 points

3 points

8 points

37 points

5 points

7 points

etc.

 

[sdp1226]

You gotta be feeling a bit better with all of these "Don't sweat it" posts. I agree with em all. If you hadn't dropped him, I am assuming that you wouldn't have started him and you would have felt sick that he put those points up on your bench.

I say good riddance!! Let other owners chase this week's box score and come up empty handed.

 

[sdp1226]

I reluctantly drafted Greene again this year, though well after his ADP & knew he'd be bad, but not as bad as he was Weeks 2-5.

What I saw this week was an AMAZING improvement in his vision & shiftiness. Sure Indy's D is not good, and the O-line blocking was solid, but he was making tacklers miss, cutting back, and powering through people. It's almost like it was another player wearing Greene's uniform.

I don't know what got into Greene, but if he can maintain even 75% of what he showed week 6, he's a viable RB2.

Burst too, you forgot to mention that he had burst. I'm technically a NYJ fan, so I've extensively watched Greene play since he came into the league. What we first witnessed during the 2009 playoffs has proven to be a facade and a symptom of fresh legs. Since then, he's been nothing short of awful. He has zero vision, seemingly content with running into the OL, zero burst and no hands to speak of. I don't know who was wearing #23 last week, but it wasn't the same Greene I've watched run over the past couple years. He broke off a 20+ yard run for the first time since 2009, I was in awe.Snap back to reality..

He plays NE, MIA and SEA with in the next three weeks. I dislike this schedule very much. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to have improved but he'll only be as good as the match ups will allow. If you're in a pinch, sell now before he comes crashing back down. If not, you can probably hold to see if this was indeed a fluke or not, but I wouldn't risk it.

I too am a Jets fana and have watched too much of this guy. I agree with the bolded. Normally I am used to watching this guy run as if he's falling forward (close to about a 45 degree angle, just ugly). Greene's running style on Sunday was something completely different than what I have seen his entire career.

 

[netmau5]

Greene has changed over the years. The OL did. Thomas Jones was just an average RB too.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I have a feeling this well end up like those who dropped Hartline to regret it and those who start Greene will end like those who started Hartline last week.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I reluctantly drafted Greene again this year, though well after his ADP & knew he'd be bad, but not as bad as he was Weeks 2-5.

What I saw this week was an AMAZING improvement in his vision & shiftiness. Sure Indy's D is not good, and the O-line blocking was solid, but he was making tacklers miss, cutting back, and powering through people. It's almost like it was another player wearing Greene's uniform.

I don't know what got into Greene, but if he can maintain even 75% of what he showed week 6, he's a viable RB2.

Burst too, you forgot to mention that he had burst. I'm technically a NYJ fan, so I've extensively watched Greene play since he came into the league. What we first witnessed during the 2009 playoffs has proven to be a facade and a symptom of fresh legs. Since then, he's been nothing short of awful. He has zero vision, seemingly content with running into the OL, zero burst and no hands to speak of. I don't know who was wearing #23 last week, but it wasn't the same Greene I've watched run over the past couple years. He broke off a 20+ yard run for the first time since 2009, I was in awe.Snap back to reality..

He plays NE, MIA and SEA with in the next three weeks. I dislike this schedule very much. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to have improved but he'll only be as good as the match ups will allow. If you're in a pinch, sell now before he comes crashing back down. If not, you can probably hold to see if this was indeed a fluke or not, but I wouldn't risk it.

I too am a Jets fana and have watched too much of this guy. I agree with the bolded. Normally I am used to watching this guy run as if he's falling forward (close to about a 45 degree angle, just ugly). Greene's running style on Sunday was something completely different than what I have seen his entire career.

I agree with this as well. I couldn't believe who I was watching. Greene ran like an angry Hulk. This wasn't him just playing against a weak D. He showed vision, burst, and power that I haven't seen since his rookie year. The Jets also weren't playing catch-up and the O-line actually made a few holes for him to run through. Hopefully it's a sign of good things to come. I don't expect him to have a good game against the Pats, but he can produce against MIA and SEA running like that if the Jets don't fall behind early.

 

[tdhartis]

I honestly didn't catch the game, but just went and watched his runs on NFL.com and came away impressed. He looked much quicker and decisive than I have seen this season and actually showed some moves - at one point doing a nice spin move to avoid a tackle in the backfield and go on to gain about 10 yards. I don't expect this to level of performance to continue because it obviously had a good deal to do with the defense they were playing, but I can only hope this is a turning point for the season. I would be content if he could start to average 3.5 a carry from here on out.

 

[flapgreen]

He sucks.

 

[bolldpt]

what do you all think about his playoff schedule? Tenn, Jax, SD. possibly hold or pickup later in the year towards the FF playoffs?

 

[avina1]

I tried to 'sell high' on Greene. All I could get was Brandon Lloyd, lol. I'm honestly happy with that.

 

[rickyg]

I wish someone in my leagues would drop shonn Greene. I'd try to pick him up for sure. And not BC he blew up vs Indy. BC he is a starting rb in the nfl. BC he gets 15+ carries per week.

You don't drop starting RBS unless you are in an 8 team 14 man roster league.

Now TRADING him is a different story. All for tradin him for good value after he broke out vs Indy. I don't believe he will put up stats even close to his Indy game again all year. Sell high. Don't drop

 

[Cawbird]

Don't worry about having regrets on dropping him. Like many others said............that will probably be his best game until 2016.

What you should be looking at is the poor sap that chases him on the waiver wire and drops another RB or WR. Go and snag that player up and you may reap the rewards! And don't worry about dropping a primary RB for a team. There are quite a few "primary" RB's that don't get you much on a weekly basis.........despite the opportunities.

AZ - Ryan Williams, and now LaRod - no O-line so it doesn't matter

Cin - BJGE hasn't exactly been piling up the weekly points

Den - McGahee to an extent, but at least he gets some points

Det - Kevin Smith and now LeShoure - not getting much because Detroit passes 65 times per game

Green Bay - Benson - not many receptions and no goal line love. Same for anyone else they plug in this year now

Ind - Donald Brown and now Vic Ballard - not lighting up the scoreboard

New Orleans - I guess it's a RBBC but none of them hold much value, even Sproles this year.

NYJ - Yes Greene had 1 big game, but nada besides this past week

Pit - they tried to have a primary carrier, and they all keep breaking down

St. Louis - Steven Jackson hasn't done much this year

Tampa - Martin started out well, but not much since

Ten - Chris Johnson - enough said

 

[rocketsauce]

He's been rotting on my bench since acquiring him week 2 or so from another owner. Thought he looked good in his big game, but was hoping to see an offer. None were coming till I got Alfred Morris & Mark Ingram for Chris Johnson & Shonn Greene.

Still interested to see what he does v the Pats and if he can be any better than the 6 or so PPR points he was contributing per week before his big game.

 

[Phlash]

You dropped a starter. A crappy starter (most weeks), but a starter nonetheless who is not in a committee. They are gone by the 6th round of real leagues for a reason. You don't drop them to the WW.

This is my sentiments exactly. All of my mistakes this season in management have been related to just this issue alone... dropped Mikel Leshoure & Denarius Moore when I realized they both wouldn't start the first few games of season, and gambled on a few players that didn't play out - I bought into the Ogletree lottery week 2. Hanging onto BJGE just for this reason alone.

 

[stp-d]

3 decent to good fantasy weeks in a row, can't say that about many rb's this year. You can't say sell high because not many are high on him, but is he a headache worth getting involved with being so cheap?