I have seen so many on this site dog C. Rogers (1 Viewer)

[hutchins929]

I was curious so I looked at some carrier stats on some WR's and I saw that their were some similar #'s with some well known WR's as to C. Rogers. What I did was took the first 3 seasons of these recievers and I converted the numbers into the average per game played. The results might suprise some of you. I will list the name of the WR followed by receptions per game, yards per game and last how many games per touchdown.

Tim Brown 2 rec/game, 30 yds/game, 1td/every 4 games

Cris Carter 2 rec/game, 35 yds/game, 1td/every 2 games

Joe Horn 1 rec/game, 9 yds/game, 1td/every 33 games

Michael Irvin 2 rec/game, 45 yds/game, 1td/every 3 games

Derrick Mason 1 rec/game, 14 yds/game, 1td/every 15 games

Charles Rogers 2 rec/game, 29 yds/game, 1 td/every 4 games

What suprised me is Rogers has almost the same numbers as Tim Brown!!!

The only thing is can he stay healthy and shape up off the field?

 

[nerangers]

Lions | Rogers could be featured wide receiver

Sat, 6 May 2006 11:19:25 -0700

Rob Parker, of the Detroit News, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers could be given the chance to become the featured wide receiver for the team.

Drafted him his rookie year and still have him. Every year I think this is going to be the year. I should do everyone a favor and cut him loose so he will finally excel (that would just be my luck).

So what is the real deal with Charles Rogers???

 

[cstu]

Lions | Rogers could be featured wide receiver

Sat, 6 May 2006 11:19:25 -0700

Rob Parker, of the Detroit News, reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers could be given the chance to become the featured wide receiver for the team.

Drafted him his rookie year and still have him.  Every year I think this is going to be the year.  I should do everyone a favor and cut him loose so he will finally excel (that would just be my luck).

So what is the real deal with Charles Rogers??? 

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That he has talent but has a drug problem and injuries that have overshadowed it. He can turn it around but you're still looking at a guy who is one failed drug test away from a year suspension.

 

[slayer666]

The best thing I can say about Charles Rogers is in re-draft leagues his stock has fallen so far that you don't have to risk much to add him to your roster in later rounds.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Those results aren't surprising at all. Nobody dogs Rogers for what he does on the field when he IS playing and IS applying himself like a professional should be. It's clear what he's capable of when he isn't having issues with his work ethic, his overall attitude, his immaturity, his drug suspensions, and his inability to stay healthy.

The thing is, all of the above mentioned issues have only gotten worse since he first came into the league. I couldn't care less if he's got the all-time best per game numbers for any wide receiver ever to play football anywhere in the history of the universe... It's all meaningless until he gets his head screwed on straight.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Rob parker doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Rob parker doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

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Parker has a bad habit of making stuff up.

That said, I still think there's hope for Rogers. His talent remains real. But from watching him at MSU and with the Lions... there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot going on in that brain of his. I don't think he's the type of guy who can shake all his problems on his own. Someone would really have to mentor him to success.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

 

[Wadsworth]

Jerry Rice was not a gifted WR. Every year there are tons of guys in the draft that are bigger, stonger, faster, can jump higher and are all-round better suited to playing WR in the NFL athletically.

I haven't heard anyone question C. Rogers' ability to perform if he's even marginally focused. And he could turn it all around. But so far he'd been oft-injured and hasn't shown much commitment. That's why people are down on him, not his talent.

 

[Wadsworth]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Ouch.

 

[carlosnphilly]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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[Ned]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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so youre saying theres a chance...

 

[SSOG]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

 

[bagger.]

First Ron Dayne, now Charles Rogers.

This is either the sign of the apocolypse or some people need to stop drinking Kool Aid.

OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH

 

[SSOG]

First Ron Dayne, now Charles Rogers.

This is either the sign of the apocolypse or some people need to stop drinking Kool Aid.

OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH

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The difference is that one guy is apparently the #1 in perhaps the best system in the entire NFL, and the other guy is apparently the #3 in perhaps the worst system in the entire NFL.

 

[bagger.]

First Ron Dayne, now Charles Rogers.

This is either the sign of the apocolypse or some people need to stop drinking Kool Aid.

OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH

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The difference is that one guy is apparently the #1 in perhaps the best system in the entire NFL, and the other guy is apparently the #3 in perhaps the worst system in the entire NFL.
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They are both piles of dog poo.

 

[SSOG]

First Ron Dayne, now Charles Rogers.

This is either the sign of the apocolypse or some people need to stop drinking Kool Aid.

OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH

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The difference is that one guy is apparently the #1 in perhaps the best system in the entire NFL, and the other guy is apparently the #3 in perhaps the worst system in the entire NFL.
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They are both piles of dog poo.
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Maybe, but one is a pile of dog poo who is extremely likely to score a lot of points based on his situation and surrounding cast, and the other is a pile of dog poo who is extremely UNLIKELY to score a lot of points based on his situation and surrounding cast.You can hate Ron Dayne all you want, but once he steps into the starting job in Denver, he's no longer Ron Dayne. He's suddenly "RB Denver" (Tecmo Superbowl style)... and "RB Denver" is a stud.

 

[Desert_Power]

First Ron Dayne, now Charles Rogers.

This is either the sign of the apocolypse or some people need to stop drinking Kool Aid.

OOOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH

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The difference is that one guy is apparently the #1 in perhaps the best system in the entire NFL, and the other guy is apparently the #3 in perhaps the worst system in the entire NFL.
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They are both piles of dog poo.
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Maybe, but one is a pile of dog poo who is extremely likely to score a lot of points based on his situation and surrounding cast, and the other is a pile of dog poo who is extremely UNLIKELY to score a lot of points based on his situation and surrounding cast.You can hate Ron Dayne all you want, but once he steps into the starting job in Denver, he's no longer Ron Dayne. He's suddenly "RB Denver" (Tecmo Superbowl style)... and "RB Denver" is a stud.

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I agree. The question on Ron Dayne this year is if he can stay on top of the depth chart, not whether or not he will produce while he is there.

 

[Jack Ham & Eggs]

the other guy is apparently the #3 in perhaps the worst system in the entire NFL.

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I don't think any offensive system run by Mike Martz is a candidate for the bottom half of the league much less THE worst in the NFL. That said, I'm a Missourian on the issue of Charles Rogers: show me.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't know what's changed, but there was talk a few weeks ago of Rogers struggling to pick up the new scheme, potentially being traded for a nominal draft pick, or him getting his outright release. Not sure how he got from that point to him earning a shot as the featured receiving role.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

 

[ChampBailey24]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

 

[ChampBailey24]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

You can hate Ron Dayne all you want, but once he steps into the starting job in Denver, he's no longer Ron Dayne. He's suddenly "RB Denver" (Tecmo Superbowl style)... and "RB Denver" is a stud.

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Just found me a new sig.

 

[azgroover]

Rob parker doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

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I enjoyed reading this.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years). He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff. He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs. However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

 

[ChampBailey24]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years). He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff. He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs. However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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It's not a counter example of my post. When the Cards drafted Fitz, they only had Boldin. They didn't have a duo. He said that teams with a duo of good-great wide receivers don't draft WRs, not teams with 1 good-great WR.Either you're fishing or you're really dumb. This is clear and you always make it sound like if it was confusing.

 

[cstu]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years). He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff. He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs. However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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It's not a counter example of my post. When the Cards drafted Fitz, they only had Boldin. They didn't have a duo. He said that teams with a duo of good-great wide receivers don't draft WRs, not teams with 1 good-great WR.Either you're fishing or you're really dumb. This is clear and you always make it sound like if it was confusing.

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Actually the Cards drafted Bryant Johnson in the 1st and Boldin in the 3rd. Their drafting of Fitz the next year was a clear indication that they didn't like what they saw in Bryant Johnson after his rookie year.

 

[slayer666]

He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

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[ChampBailey24]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years). He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff. He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs. However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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It's not a counter example of my post. When the Cards drafted Fitz, they only had Boldin. They didn't have a duo. He said that teams with a duo of good-great wide receivers don't draft WRs, not teams with 1 good-great WR.Either you're fishing or you're really dumb. This is clear and you always make it sound like if it was confusing.

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Actually the Cards drafted Bryant Johnson in the 1st and Boldin in the 3rd. Their drafting of Fitz the next year was a clear indication that they didn't like what they saw in Bryant Johnson after his rookie year.
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Which is why I said when you have a GOOD duo.

 

[trader jake]

I have seen so many on this site dog C. Rogers

and with good reason...how many of these player examples entered the NFL with a "diluted drug sample" an have then proven this suspicious drug test to be correct by continuing to make poor decisionswhy should anyone expect charles rogers to turn it around? has he given anyone a single reason to believe in him over the past two seasons? hell nothe guy is a wasted draft pick

 

[Da Guru]

I know a guy from Flint who stated Rogers had 2 kids while in high school, smoked dope like Bob marley and was lazy in practice. They guy was so gifted an athlete he did not have to work or try very hard to succeed.

In the NFL Chuck has tried to skate by doing the same thing and it has been a flop. Can he get his act together...don`t count on it.

 

[David Yudkin]

Actually the Cards drafted Bryant Johnson in the 1st and Boldin in the 3rd. Their drafting of Fitz the next year was a clear indication that they didn't like what they saw in Bryant Johnson after his rookie year.

Boldin was a 2nd round pick.

 

[LAUNCH]

Rob parker doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground. He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

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I enjoyed reading this.
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I agree and will add a

 

[cstu]

Actually the Cards drafted Bryant Johnson in the 1st and Boldin in the 3rd. Their drafting of Fitz the next year was a clear indication that they didn't like what they saw in Bryant Johnson after his rookie year.

Boldin was a 2nd round pick.
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You're right, I was mixed up because they had two first round picks (Johnson and Pace).

 

[cstu]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years). He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff. He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs. However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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It's not a counter example of my post. When the Cards drafted Fitz, they only had Boldin. They didn't have a duo. He said that teams with a duo of good-great wide receivers don't draft WRs, not teams with 1 good-great WR.Either you're fishing or you're really dumb. This is clear and you always make it sound like if it was confusing.

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Actually the Cards drafted Bryant Johnson in the 1st and Boldin in the 3rd. Their drafting of Fitz the next year was a clear indication that they didn't like what they saw in Bryant Johnson after his rookie year.
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Which is why I said when you have a GOOD duo.
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Neither did the Lions. So I guess drafting Mike Williams to go with Roy Williams made sense.

 

[SSOG]

Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years).  He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff.  He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.

Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs.  However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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My point wasn't that one good WR means you won't take another WR in the first round. My point was that *TWO* good WRs means you won't take another WR in the first round. You do not spend a first round pick on a guy who will either be a backup, or will send a 1000+ yard receiver to the bench. You just don't do it.Denver didn't draft a WR when Smith and McCaffrey were in their primes (Lelie didn't come until McCaffrey was coming off of a season-ending injury, when no one knew how he'd come back from it). Detroit didn't draft any first-day WRs when they had Perriman and Moore (actually, they drafted Johnnie Morton, but that was 2 years before Perriman and Moore went for 100 catches each- that was after a season where Perriman and Moore went for 110 catches COMBINED). Indy didn't draft any WRs once they had a competent duo in Harrison/Wayne. Teams don't draft WRs on the first day when they've already got two high-quality WRs on their roster.

I have seen so many on this site dog C. Rogers

and with good reason...how many of these player examples entered the NFL with a "diluted drug sample" an have then proven this suspicious drug test to be correct by continuing to make poor decisionswhy should anyone expect charles rogers to turn it around? has he given anyone a single reason to believe in him over the past two seasons? hell no

the guy is a wasted draft pick

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I am of the opinion that, at the end of the day, when everything is on the table, Charles Rodgers will be viewed as the biggest WR bust in the history of the NFL. He will be to WRs what Ryan Leaf is to QBs.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Because of all of the lame-a** bickering in this thread I may have missed if this was posted. Thought it was funny that they had 05' in the title.

Lions planning for Rogers' role to be large in '05

Charles Rogers - WR - DET - May. 6 - 2:12 pm et

The Lions are now planning to feature WR Charles Rogers in their offense.

Several teams reportedly made draft-day calls about Rogers but the Lions resisted. The former No. 2 overall pick is expected to become a long threat, a downfield target instead of the underneath receiver he had been utilized as under Steve Mariucci. Rogers doesn't lack the talent. He just has to want it. May. 6 - 2:12 pm et

Source: Detroit News

 

[Master Shake]

You can hate Ron Dayne all you want, but once he steps into the starting job in Denver, he's no longer Ron Dayne. He's suddenly "RB Denver" (Tecmo Superbowl style)... and "RB Denver" is a stud.

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Just found me a new sig.
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Perfect application of a Tecmo Superbowl reference and rogers is a bum...but wait a minute, looks he is on pace for a 32 reception, 464 yard season with a whoping 4TD's? Looks like Mike Williams has some high expectations to live up to.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I know a guy from Flint who stated Rogers had 2 kids while in high school, smoked dope like Bob marley and was lazy in practice. They guy was so gifted an athlete he did not have to work or try very hard to succeed.

  In the NFL Chuck has tried to skate by doing the same thing and it has been a flop. Can he get his act together...don`t count on it.

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I think this is the case w/ so many top picks that bust. They believe they 'have it' and don't have to work for it. I did the same in school. I could blow off homework, never crack a book, miss class occasionaly and come in to ace the test. That kept my 2.0 ave to play football and I figured I could do the same in college. Only college courses don't lecture everything and not all the tests are common sense. My poor work ethic turned into an academic nightmare. Ironic that my poor work ethic was bred by academic talent.

 

[ffweasel]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Wow. First it was stated that those teams don't draft WRs in the first round, then you changed it to the last couple of years. You aren't making alot of sense here. Which one is it? And how does a team not drafting a WR in the first round the last couple of years mean anything? Your logic seems to be lost.

 

[ChampBailey24]

In terms of pure athletic talent, Charles Rogers is up there with David Terrell. As a football player, however, he'll probably never live up to that comparison.

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Hahaha, you crack me up.You better watch out, though... according to Jeff Legwold, Shanny and crew are firm believers in David Terrell and think they're going to turn him into a star again. And no, I checked just to make sure... they are NOT confusing him with Davis, Terrell.

The problem with Rodgers isn't just his numbers (which are truly horrible)... they're with his performance. He dogs it on plays, he has drug problems, he's injury prone, etc.

Think of it this way- Charles Rodgers was drafted #2 OVERALL!!! The Detroit Lions were DESPERATE to see him succeed. Given his contract and his draft position, they have been trying EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN to turn him into a star... and he still has those lousy numbers. How many of those other WRs that you listed were drafted in the top 10?

So again, Detroit wanted desperately for Charles Rodgers to succeed, and gave him every possible advantage, and he still never has. And even more incriminating, the Detroit Lions, the guys who see him every single day of the week for the entire season, were so convinced that he wasn't going to hack it that they spent a THIRD STRAIGHT TOP-10 PICK on a receiver last year. That is NOT something you do if you're content with your current recieving corps. Arizona doesn't draft recievers in the first round. Indianapolis doesn't draft receivers in the first round. It just doesn't happen.

So basically, forget about his numbers... all you need to know is Detroit has done everything possible to turn him into a star, and is so convinced that he'll never amount to anything that they spent a top-10 pick on his replacement.

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Ummm, since 1990: David Boston, Bryant Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for Arizona. And for Indy there's Sean Dawkins, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.Surely you've heard of at least a couple of those players?

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Are you special? It's clear that he meant recently as in the last 2 years.
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When was Fitzgerald drafted?I don't necessarily disagree with the point he was trying to make, but it was a horrible example.

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3 drafts ago. No it wasn't. The Colts haven't drafted many, if any WRs since they drafted Wayne. Just like the Cards won't draft WRs for years to come.
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Wow. First it was stated that those teams don't draft WRs in the first round, then you changed it to the last couple of years. You aren't making alot of sense here. Which one is it? And how does a team not drafting a WR in the first round the last couple of years mean anything? Your logic seems to be lost.
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I didn't post the original post. I just tried to explained to others what the guy meant. Since drafting Reggie Wayne, the Colts haven't drafted a WR in the 1st. Since drafting Fitz, the Cards haven't drafted a WR in the 1st and it's quite unlikely that they will draft an other one in the last 5 years. That's what the guy meat.

 

[mightyeskimo]

I was curious so I looked at some carrier stats on some WR's and I saw that their were some similar #'s with some well known WR's as to C. Rogers.  What I did was took the first 3 seasons of these recievers and I converted the numbers into the average per game played.  The results might suprise some of you. I will list the name of the WR followed by receptions per game, yards per game and last how many games per touchdown.

Tim Brown 2 rec/game, 30 yds/game, 1td/every 4 games

Cris Carter 2 rec/game, 35 yds/game, 1td/every 2 games

Joe Horn 1 rec/game, 9 yds/game, 1td/every 33 games

Michael Irvin 2 rec/game, 45 yds/game, 1td/every 3 games

Derrick Mason 1 rec/game, 14 yds/game, 1td/every 15 games

Charles Rogers  2 rec/game, 29 yds/game, 1 td/every 4 games

What suprised me is Rogers has almost the same numbers as Tim Brown!!!

The only thing is can he stay healthy and shape up off the field?

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My only question is this. Were all the other receivers starting at the #1 position during that time period? That would really make it an accurate comparison. Rogers was the #1 when he was drafted. He was also the #1 for a short time after they drafted Roy Williams. Good work.

 

[goonsquad]

My point wasn't that one good WR means you won't take another WR in the first round. My point was that *TWO* good WRs means you won't take another WR in the first round. You do not spend a first round pick on a guy who will either be a backup, or will send a 1000+ yard receiver to the bench. You just don't do it.

The Lions decision to draft Mike Williams was based purely on the fact that the Charles Rogers had shattered his colloarbone TWICE in two seasons. The pick was made in response to his injury history, NOT his performance or lack thereof when he was on the field as you imply.

I am of the opinion that, at the end of the day, when everything is on the table, Charles Rodgers will be viewed as the biggest WR bust in the history of the NFL. He will be to WRs what Ryan Leaf is to QBs.

This is a rediculous statement. If Rogers never plays again, he will go down in history as just another highly touted player whose career was sidelined by injuries from which he never recovered. Leaf never had major injuries, and made a spectacle of himself with outbursts in the press. There is no comparison between the two other than draft position.

 

[Bri]

I was curious so I looked at some carrier stats on some WR's and I saw that their were some similar #'s with some well known WR's as to C. Rogers.  What I did was took the first 3 seasons of these recievers and I converted the numbers into the average per game played.  The results might suprise some of you. I will list the name of the WR followed by receptions per game, yards per game and last how many games per touchdown.

Tim Brown 2 rec/game, 30 yds/game, 1td/every 4 games

Cris Carter 2 rec/game, 35 yds/game, 1td/every 2 games

Joe Horn 1 rec/game, 9 yds/game, 1td/every 33 games

Michael Irvin 2 rec/game, 45 yds/game, 1td/every 3 games

Derrick Mason 1 rec/game, 14 yds/game, 1td/every 15 games

Charles Rogers  2 rec/game, 29 yds/game, 1 td/every 4 games

What suprised me is Rogers has almost the same numbers as Tim Brown!!!

The only thing is can he stay healthy and shape up off the field?

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My only question is this. Were all the other receivers starting at the #1 position during that time period? That would really make it an accurate comparison. Rogers was the #1 when he was drafted. He was also the #1 for a short time after they drafted Roy Williams. Good work.
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Horn was like the 5th WR on KC he wasn't getting significant time even in one or two games like Rogers. IIRC Tim Brown DID take some flack, or the Raiders, for picking him+low production. It's the nature of the beast. What happenned to Fred Gibson and Craphonso Thorpe last year? Their teams expected alot from their (relatively)high picks and they failed miserably to adjust to the pro game.

One could say Charles Rogers is lucky he got hurt in that he had time to watch and learn the game like a young QB, Pennington for example.

If Detroit fans "call for his head on a silver platter" well then that's how the game works out. If he gets 1400 yards receiving they'll praise him and that too is part of fans and the game. Nothing wrong with either IMO. The day fans stop wanting production from a player is the day the game "dies"

 

[fatness]

He's a horrible writter, believe me that his totally his own opinion.

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I'm convinced.

 

[cstu]

Fitzgerald was drafted in 2004, 2 years ago (yes it was "3 drafts ago", but it was really only two years).  He was drafted AFTER Boldin showed his stuff.  He is a perfect COUNTEREXAMPLE to your point, which was in essence that once you have a stud receiver, you don't spend high picks on other receivers.

Wayne was drafted during Marvin's prime.

What Detroit did was unprecedented and I DO think it was a clear indication that they weren't happy with their crew as it was and were disappointed with one or both of their WRs.  However, using Arizona and Indy as support for your argument isn't helping your case AT ALL.

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My point wasn't that one good WR means you won't take another WR in the first round. My point was that *TWO* good WRs means you won't take another WR in the first round. You do not spend a first round pick on a guy who will either be a backup, or will send a 1000+ yard receiver to the bench. You just don't do it.Denver didn't draft a WR when Smith and McCaffrey were in their primes (Lelie didn't come until McCaffrey was coming off of a season-ending injury, when no one knew how he'd come back from it). Detroit didn't draft any first-day WRs when they had Perriman and Moore (actually, they drafted Johnnie Morton, but that was 2 years before Perriman and Moore went for 100 catches each- that was after a season where Perriman and Moore went for 110 catches COMBINED). Indy didn't draft any WRs once they had a competent duo in Harrison/Wayne. Teams don't draft WRs on the first day when they've already got two high-quality WRs on their roster.

I have seen so many on this site dog C. Rogers

and with good reason...how many of these player examples entered the NFL with a "diluted drug sample" an have then proven this suspicious drug test to be correct by continuing to make poor decisionswhy should anyone expect charles rogers to turn it around? has he given anyone a single reason to believe in him over the past two seasons? hell no

the guy is a wasted draft pick

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I am of the opinion that, at the end of the day, when everything is on the table, Charles Rodgers will be viewed as the biggest WR bust in the history of the NFL. He will be to WRs what Ryan Leaf is to QBs.
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No doubt about it.

 

[Donnybrook]

I was curious so I looked at some carrier stats on some WR's and I saw that their were some similar #'s with some well known WR's as to C. Rogers.  What I did was took the first 3 seasons of these recievers and I converted the numbers into the average per game played.  The results might suprise some of you. I will list the name of the WR followed by receptions per game, yards per game and last how many games per touchdown.

Tim Brown 2 rec/game, 30 yds/game, 1td/every 4 games

Cris Carter 2 rec/game, 35 yds/game, 1td/every 2 games

Joe Horn 1 rec/game, 9 yds/game, 1td/every 33 games

Michael Irvin 2 rec/game, 45 yds/game, 1td/every 3 games

Derrick Mason 1 rec/game, 14 yds/game, 1td/every 15 games

Charles Rogers  2 rec/game, 29 yds/game, 1 td/every 4 games

What suprised me is Rogers has almost the same numbers as Tim Brown!!!

The only thing is can he stay healthy and shape up off the field?

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Maybe you should take into account games started rather than games played. For example, Derrick Mason started in only 2 games in his first 3 seasons. Not all that surprising when you consider the fact that Mason was a 4th round pick and had to earn the starting job.Try this:

Mason - 40 TDs in 89 starts

Rogers - 4 TDs in 9 starts (3 in first game only 1 since)

I can't believe you are surprised by these cherry picked stats.

 

[carlosnphilly]

If the Lions can use Rogers as the deep threat they're claiming to be doing this year, maybe he can become a poor man's Ashley Lelie.