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I need help losing weight and getting back in shape (3 Viewers)

Forgot to mention, saw my dr. in the grocery store lobby. He was there with his wife and kids ringing the salvation army bell. Had to show him what I bought. He was pretty sure I just did it because of my appt. Friday. Me getting yelled at by my Doc every 6 months has kind of become tradition.

 
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Yeo man i agree i with you. Honestly you might get jumped on because I of all people agree with you but I'm 22 and just know my own body limits. I am a normal person not like i am naturally gifted with a super muscular body. If i eat #### food i make sure i work out twice as hard and much as i usually do. By #### food i don't mean fast food either though i just mean like sweets and things high in sugar. Ive earned my body and i am damn proud to say that. Make sure you only eat 3 Solid meal a day and if you get into a strict workout regime change that to 5 or 6 meals a day but cut the calories per meal in half. when you are LOSING WEIGHT YOU WILL ALMOST ALWAYS BE HUNGRY. This is because you stomach is stretched farther than usual and wants to fill up on fat. Ignore this for the first week. Once you start eating healthy foods you will be almost always full all the time. After my each meal which i have 5 times daily I am full even though it isn't as much as what i could physically eat till i was stuffed. Being full and being stuffed are completely different things. As i said before it has to be a lifestyle change and only you can change your body. HOW BAD DO YOU REALLY WANT IT is what it comes down to. If your just like ehhhh well i would like to be fit then well I'm sorry to tell you but you will be fat slob the rest of your life. If you do really care you will change your own lifestyle.
IMO if you've eaten poorly for a long time then you need to shock your body by fasting for a day or two. It's very difficult but it's amazing how much of a difference it makes in regards to feeling satiated. Your stomach gets used to a certain amount of food in order to feel full, but if you can give it a break you will notice a huge difference in the amount of food it takes for you to not feel hungry.
Your body also goes in to fat storing mode when it feels deprived.
https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/food-thought-fast-day-starvation-mode/

A more recent experiment on the effects of short term calorie restriction, Resting energy expenditure in short-term starvation, produced very different results. In this experiment they took 11, healthy volunteers and asked them to live on nothing but water for 84 hours.

The researchers found that the volunteers basal metabolic rate went up while they were fasting. By day 3 it had risen, on average, by 14%.

One reason for this may have been the significant rise they detected in a catecholamine called noradrenaline, which is known to burn fat.
Short term fasting works. The article mentioned the evolutionary perspective - imagine if when people just ran out of food their bodies shut down until food arrived. Instead what I believe happens is that when you run out of food your brain gives your body a jump start to go find more. If that doesn't work then the body will go into starvation mode and hope someone else gives you food because your hunting skills must suck.
Interesting

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.

 
Not sure why you guys are suggesting fruit as a regular snack. That sugar is a great way to jack up your insulin and turn to fat. With his diet, he has enough sugar.

They guy said he's boarder line diabetic, way to send him over the edge :thumbdown:

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
You can add frozen blueberries to it too if you want. They're great with that, naturally sweeten the milk. Will make it a little more filling for you, will feel fuller longer. Can't go wrong adding blueberries to the diet.

 
Not sure why you guys are suggesting fruit as a regular snack. That sugar is a great way to jack up your insulin and turn to fat. With his diet, he has enough sugar.

They guy said he's boarder line diabetic, way to send him over the edge :thumbdown:
The fruit's gonna replace other crap. 2 servings per day. He's getting almost none now.

 
Chicken, red peppers, mushrooms, onions in a mustard sauce for dinner. Enough left over for work lunch tomorrow. Day is 2/3 set.

Forgot to mention, on a bed of quinoa and brown rice

 
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Not sure why you guys are suggesting fruit as a regular snack. That sugar is a great way to jack up your insulin and turn to fat. With his diet, he has enough sugar.

They guy said he's boarder line diabetic, way to send him over the edge :thumbdown:
This is very true. He should probably get a couple servings of fruit a day, but eating more than that will require a significant amount of reduction of the added sugar and other simple carbs he's getting from the rest of his diet. When I'm below 50 grams of sugar per day and avoid simple carbs, the weight melts off even without exercise and regardless of how much protein I eat. Over 50 grams of sugar per day and it takes counting calories and exercise to get any results.

 
If you do calories long-term and stick to it, you'll eventually cut most of the crap out of your diet anyway. You'll learn what things totally ruin your day, and what things don't. For instance, regular coke and all kinds of juices are fine if you are counting calories. But since those are the emptiest of empty calories and since they do not satiate you at all, you'll move away from those for the most part, because you'll see how little food you can have if you waste calories on stuff that stimulates hunger and doesn't make you full.
Rule #1 for me is 'don't drink calories'. I still have an occasional glass of milk but that's it.

As for the bolded, I've found that garbage food finds its way out of my diet naturally because it's not worth eating a tiny fat and sugar-laden food that won't fill me up when I can have a whole plate of lean meat and vegetables.

 
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The two diets I've had success with are/were Weight Watchers, but I agree, after a while, it gets depressing thinking "this is how I have to eat for the rest of my life", and the Dukan Diet. On the Dukan, which is more of a "shock to the system" type of diet, I was hungry the first couple of days. By the end of the first week I couldn't even stomach thinking about going back to real food. The re-introduction phase is where I ended up losing it. I probably lost 12 or 14 pounds that first week.
First of all, losing 12-14 pounds the first week is a sign of terrible diet. That's nothing but water weight and then you feel like crap when you gain it back.

The truth is that the slow, boring way where you eat healthy but still get to eat things you like once in a while (as long as it keeps you under your target calories) is the best way to lose weight long term and most importantly, keep it off.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
Bear Naked

 
The two diets I've had success with are/were Weight Watchers, but I agree, after a while, it gets depressing thinking "this is how I have to eat for the rest of my life", and the Dukan Diet. On the Dukan, which is more of a "shock to the system" type of diet, I was hungry the first couple of days. By the end of the first week I couldn't even stomach thinking about going back to real food. The re-introduction phase is where I ended up losing it. I probably lost 12 or 14 pounds that first week.
First of all, losing 12-14 pounds the first week is a sign of terrible diet. That's nothing but water weight and then you feel like crap when you gain it back.

The truth is that the slow, boring way where you eat healthy but still get to eat things you like once in a while (as long as it keeps you under your target calories) is the best way to lose weight long term and most importantly, keep it off.
:goodposting:

And when you get to your target weight, you can add back calories until you're at an equilibrium.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
Bear Naked
Quarter cup - 13 grams of relatively bad, fast burning carbs. 1/2 cup would be MINIMUM and that wouldn't likely be enough. Why not just go ahead and have a Butterfinger with 29 carbs instead 26 carbs for 1/2 cup of Bear Naked.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
Bear Naked
Quarter cup - 13 grams of relatively bad, fast burning carbs. 1/2 cup would be MINIMUM and that wouldn't likely be enough. Why not just go ahead and have a Butterfinger with 29 carbs instead 26 carbs for 1/2 cup of Bear Naked.
Cmon. Protein, fiber, way less sugar. Nowhere near comparable. Look at what he was eating before. Earlier today people making fun of granola, now tonight eating fruit and granola bad for him? Give me a break. He's eating mcmuffins and frozen jimmy deans sausage egg sandwiches before this. It'd be great if this granola was the worst thing he ate all day. Right now it's the best. Baby steps. Today was a good day.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
Bear Naked
Quarter cup - 13 grams of relatively bad, fast burning carbs. 1/2 cup would be MINIMUM and that wouldn't likely be enough. Why not just go ahead and have a Butterfinger with 29 carbs instead 26 carbs for 1/2 cup of Bear Naked.
Cmon. Protein, fiber, way less sugar. Nowhere near comparable. Look at what he was eating before. Earlier today people making fun of granola, now tonight eating fruit and granola bad for him? Give me a break. He's eating mcmuffins and frozen jimmy deans sausage egg sandwiches before this. It'd be great if this granola was the worst thing he ate all day. Right now it's the best. Baby steps. Today was a good day.
Technically, a weight watchers smart ones egg/sausage muffin. Just fyi

 
It all stats with your diet.

2000 a day calorie diet.

No fries, no soda, in fact nothing fried. You must go cold turkey.

Lot's of salads, fish, chicken, veggies.

Water, water....and more water.

You will go in caloric withdrawal and your first few weeks you will flipping. But you must commit to 2000 calories a day max.

Cut your salt big time, oh did I mention water and more water? No soda...not even diet garbage. Water, unsweetened ice tea. That's it.

Snack between meals. Graze on healthy fruit, veggies, light crackers. Even just a few slices of fresh cold cut turkey or chicken breast as an after lunch snack, some low fat yogurt after breakfast as a mid morning snack. But again you portions are critical.

Do that for a month I can assure you you will lose at least 2-3 pounds a week easy and we have not even got to exercise.

You must stop stuffing your face. change your entire lifestyle of eating out. It will kill you.

Good luck man. You can do it.

 
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Is he allowed to eat anything anymore? I see fruit is off limits now, to go with bread, beer, mcmuffins, eggs, all sugars, what am I missing?

Do you hardcore guys really eat like this? I get so much enjoyment from food, I can't imagine.

Anyway, good to see JD, shader, Tasker etc... still providing more realistic advice.

 
Is he allowed to eat anything anymore? I see fruit is off limits now, to go with bread, beer, mcmuffins, eggs, all sugars, what am I missing?

Do you hardcore guys really eat like this? I get so much enjoyment from food, I can't imagine.

Anyway, good to see JD, shader, Tasker etc... still providing more realistic advice.
I saw my doctor just before thanksgiving. He said those of us like me who have Meniere's Disease report an increase of cases of vertigo at Thanksgiving. I said, #### it! I'm going to eat thanksgiving food and if I spend hours with the room spinning around while fighting the urge to puke, then so be it. I'm going to risk that to enjoy a traditional thanksgiving meal. Luckily I didn't get any vertigo after I did. I think a lot of people who have Meniere's feel the same way I did, and not all of us get lucky, and that's what my doctor was saying.

The point I'm making here is eating unhealthy food is worth it sometimes. For me it's a much bigger risk than for all you who don't get vertigo from it. But to be honest, I feel lucky that I have Meniere's. Why? Because in my opinion it's far better to lose the proper function in one of my ears than it is to have a critical organ fail. Having Meniere's has forced me to eat better 99% of the time, and as long as I do, I'm rewarded with no vertigo. I'll never hear out of that ear again, and I hear ringing in it 24/7/365, but to be honest I've gotten so used to it, that some days I don't even realize I've been hearing it all day. It would be nice to hear out of two ears, instead of one... but being healthier in the rest of my body is the reward Meniere's has resulted in.

It scares me how many Americans are unaware of how close they are to a critical organ shutting down. Modern medicine has done so much to extend our lives, but the American food supply is so ####ing crappy, our children won't live as long as we will. The typical American diet is killing Americans.

 
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Is he allowed to eat anything anymore? I see fruit is off limits now, to go with bread, beer, mcmuffins, eggs, all sugars, what am I missing?

Do you hardcore guys really eat like this? I get so much enjoyment from food, I can't imagine.

Anyway, good to see JD, shader, Tasker etc... still providing more realistic advice.
I don't, but I have exercised like a maniac for years in part to justify my cheating. Whenever my body fails me I will need to adjust. For now, I eat very well during the day. I let my guard down at night though as I love good food, beer, and whiskey.That said, I had a fat stage about ten years ago. I was strict about my diet until I was satisfied with where I was. Very strict for six months (no alcohol) and still fairly strict for another six (food was good, alcohol crept back in). That's when I brought the cheats back in, but as I did I ramped up the exercise regimen so I wouldn't regress. I'm getting the sense that's not in gussy's wheel house, it isn't what most want to do, which is why I haven't brought it up. My method is probably only sustainable if you really want to push yourself to limits from an exercise perspective.

 
Whole fruits are vital to anyone's diet, not just losing weight but just a daily good all around healthy diet. Fruit does many many wonderful things and we might as well list a few here.

1. Let's dispel this sugar myth. Eating fruit will actually curb your sweet teeth once you stop eating 150-200+grams of sugar a day. And the sugar in fruit comes with a nice serving of fiber which is mother nature's way of filling your sweet tooth and cleaning out your intestinal tract. I always have a banana in the morning or afternoon for a snack. I will eat apples and oranges but I find the og bananas to be very consistent.

2. You will not be craving sweets all the time.

3. They make the easiest snacks for on the go. And you can play with so many combinations. Berry bowls in the morning are a great way to get going. Berries anytime are thru the roof good for you and have cancer fighting elements, doubt anything at MickyDs or any other place will help fight cancer. The opposite in fact.

 
Stopped by the store on the way home and tried to pick up some healthy snacks I can keep at the office to get me through my days. Picked up 3 red delicious apples, 3 bartlett pears, 2 bags of Willie Neslon's granola, I got the original cinnamon and also the maple-icious pecan. It is really good, although might be better with skim milk as a cereal for breakfast for me. Also got a bag of turkey jerky. It's "meh". Certainly not beef or deer jerky. I do have some deer jerky coming from the buck my son took recently. Also got some sugar snap peas. I love hummus, but I usually eat it with tostitos. I tried it with celery yesterday, and it was ok, but I think I'll like it better with sugar snap peas. Also got home in time to get a 25 minute walk in. It was beautiful here today. 56 degrees in December is crazy. Supposed to be better tomorrow. Wife is making a chicken breast with red peppers, sauteed onions and mushrooms and I'm sure some kind of mustard sauce for dinner.
Nice. Yes, the granola is for breakfast, that's when I eat it. I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk. Skims great too. The cinnamon is delicious. Probably my favorite one. A few of their flavors are a little heavy on sugar/carbs, just have to be mindful of that. A small bowl of that every morning is miles better than McD's. You'll be so far ahead right out of the gate every day.
I actually looked at the sugars because I thought the Maple one might be high in sugar, but it's actually less than the cinnamon.
Yeah, it's a good brand. Minimally processed. You just don't want to go through a bag every two days which is possible because it's delicious.
I missed it earlier. What brand? I eat bagels when I'm in heavy training because I need the calories, but i don't exercise as much in winter and need an alternative.
Bear Naked
Quarter cup - 13 grams of relatively bad, fast burning carbs. 1/2 cup would be MINIMUM and that wouldn't likely be enough. Why not just go ahead and have a Butterfinger with 29 carbs instead 26 carbs for 1/2 cup of Bear Naked.
Cmon. Protein, fiber, way less sugar. Nowhere near comparable. Look at what he was eating before. Earlier today people making fun of granola, now tonight eating fruit and granola bad for him? Give me a break. He's eating mcmuffins and frozen jimmy deans sausage egg sandwiches before this. It'd be great if this granola was the worst thing he ate all day. Right now it's the best. Baby steps. Today was a good day.
I won't argue that a Butterfinger is healthier, just a way to make a point about "healthy" foods like granola. Carbs=sugar. And its mostly if not all fast carbs which affect the body like sugar.

 
Is he allowed to eat anything anymore? I see fruit is off limits now, to go with bread, beer, mcmuffins, eggs, all sugars, what am I missing?

Do you hardcore guys really eat like this? I get so much enjoyment from food, I can't imagine.

Anyway, good to see JD, shader, Tasker etc... still providing more realistic advice.
Aside from raw veggies, there honesty isn't anything I can think of that isn't off limits in some diets.

 
Whole fruits are vital to anyone's diet, not just losing weight but just a daily good all around healthy diet. Fruit does many many wonderful things and we might as well list a few here.

1. Let's dispel this sugar myth. Eating fruit will actually curb your sweet teeth once you stop eating 150-200+grams of sugar a day. And the sugar in fruit comes with a nice serving of fiber which is mother nature's way of filling your sweet tooth and cleaning out your intestinal tract. I always have a banana in the morning or afternoon for a snack. I will eat apples and oranges but I find the og bananas to be very consistent.

2. You will not be craving sweets all the time.

3. They make the easiest snacks for on the go. And you can play with so many combinations. Berry bowls in the morning are a great way to get going. Berries anytime are thru the roof good for you and have cancer fighting elements, doubt anything at MickyDs or any other place will help fight cancer. The opposite in fact.
I don't disagree - my point is maybe we need to separate "I need to snack" with "I want something that tastes sweet". Maybe introduce the pallet to a different way to snack? Being hungry <> I needing something sweet.

Munch on some celery and carrots. Mix in almonds. Maybe a granola (not that candy bar crap either). Maybe the other half of chicken breast left over from lunch? Even better, cut lunch in half and make it two meals if possible to keep the metabolism going. It's okay to have the chicken salad sandwich, maybe half at 11am and half at 2:30ish so one doesn't blow the entire thing at noon (if possible - obviously doesn't work in all job situations).

Train the body, don't let it train you. It sounds like his endorphins are tied too closely with food; one can satisfy hunger without appeasing a sugar high.

That's what I'm on here. In the last year, I've been so hard on avoiding sugar that naturally cooked yam tasted way too sweet for me. I almost vomited after doing Halloween with my daughter just smelling all that gross chocolate.

I'm pretty sure I was brainwashed somehow along the way. :tinfoilhat:

 
Chicken, red peppers, mushrooms, onions in a mustard sauce for dinner. Enough left over for work lunch tomorrow. Day is 2/3 set.

Forgot to mention, on a bed of quinoa and brown rice
:lmao: Everyone is so busy arguing with each other, no one has responded to this post.

It sounds good. How was it?

 
Chicken, red peppers, mushrooms, onions in a mustard sauce for dinner. Enough left over for work lunch tomorrow. Day is 2/3 set.

Forgot to mention, on a bed of quinoa and brown rice
:lmao: Everyone is so busy arguing with each other, no one has responded to this post.

It sounds good. How was it?
She's made similar dishes before, both when we were trying to behave and when she didn't have a lot of time. We always have chicken breast around. Everything she makes is great, so of course, it was really good. It was kind of funny, because, as you can imagine, only having had a salad for lunch, I was ravenous. Then I came home and walked and she came rolling in around 5 and decides she needs to go drop off some of her beaded stuff from her party Monday night to one of her girlfriends that couldn't make it, so it was probably 7:15 before we ate. She took her portion and I literally took all of the rest of the rice/quinoa and put all of the rest of the chicken on top. She says "hungry?" and kind of laughed, and I told her I was starving. I got about 2/3 of the way through it and I thought "I really don't need all of this and it would make a good light lunch for tomorrow", so I put the rest in a microwave container. It kept me satisfied through the night. Also, went to bed before 10:30 and up at 5:30 feeling pretty good. It's one of her early days at work so it's easy for me to be up early on those days and be productive as long as I get to bed early the night before.

 
Just waiting for the diet guys to come in and say how water is bad for you because it inhibits sugar metabolism, enhances it, creates carbs, removes carbs, or just ####### tastes like water.

 
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I have recently been enjoying some broccoli slaw stir fry. Very easy.

Take a skillet get it hot as heck. Put a small amount of olive oil in. Drop in the broccoli slaw and get it slightly browned. Crack in a couple eggs. Drop in a bit of soy sauce. Once the egg is cooked, enjoy. Basically like a slaw fried rice.

 
James Daulton said:
Step 1, Worry about calories only. Not macros or sugar or ingredients, calories only. Of course you should mix in veggies and healthy food, but calories are they key to losing weight.
A diet of 2000 calories from 2000 calories of sugar has a vastly different response by the body than a diet of 2000 calories with only 200 calories from sugar. Likewise a diet with 500 calories of sugar affects the body different than a diet of 200 calories of sugar.

If you want proof, then just recall the anti-fat campaign that hit our culture in the 80's, where food manufactures replaced the fat in food with sugar to make it "low fat" and "no fat". The result was society got even fatter.
This isn't an argument against counting calories. Our society consumed more calories and got fatter.

 
I have recently been enjoying some broccoli slaw stir fry. Very easy.

Take a skillet get it hot as heck. Put a small amount of olive oil in. Drop in the broccoli slaw and get it slightly browned. Crack in a couple eggs. Drop in a bit of soy sauce. Once the egg is cooked, enjoy. Basically like a slaw fried rice.
Broccoli Slaw rules

 
Once you reach your health goals (losing a ton of weight is of the highest order for you)

Then have a cheat day. Heck if can stick to a strict diet for the first month then you can have a cheat day. That does not mean a full rack of ribs and fries with cinnamon apples.

It means a half rack of ribs with a sweet potatoe with a touch of butter. And lots of water.

Be smart and don't blow it. You truly have to commit to a lifestyle change to really accomplish what you want to do. It will take a year to lose weight in a realistic healthy manner.

30 minutes a day 4-5 days a week of good circuit work out. Which you can do in your home. There are thousands of workout DVDs you can use for that.

If you're really serious you will change your lifestyle. Otherwise nothing will ever change.

Once you lose 15-20 pounds in 3-4 months just from having a realistic healthy diet where you can eat great tasting grilled foods, fruits, veggies etc. There is no looking back.

 
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