There could be some convergence between Sanders, Warren, Rand Paul and many conservative types on this point.
I have found myself agreeing with Rand on a thing or two. Libertarianism and Liberalism do have some common ground.SaintsInDome2006 said:There could be some convergence between Sanders, Warren, Rand Paul and many conservative types on this point.urbanhack said:
Interesting conflux.
I saw some rumors to that affect. But I find it hard to believe. His policy choices don't really seem to back that up.I saw something last week about speculation that Obama would support her over Hillary.
He gets to crawl back up in his ivory tower after his presidency is over though.I saw some rumors to that affect. But I find it hard to believe. His policy choices don't really seem to back that up.I saw something last week about speculation that Obama would support her over Hillary.
This is one of the reasons she is potentially being touted as Obama's successor, it seems. That and maybe Obama would support her over Hillary cuz he doesn't really like Hillary.SaintsInDome2006 said:There could be some convergence between Sanders, Warren, Rand Paul and many conservative types on this point.urbanhack said:
Interesting conflux.
So now making money is wrong? Are you against the free market? Are you a hippy? Why do you hate America?The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
I think that when Obama couldn't purchase a neighboring property, but Tony Rezko could and flipped it back to him, that was a bigger ethical problem. Typical Chicago corruption. - If Warren's supporters have a problem with her playing the market for profit well then maybe they just have a problem with profit.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
It's even better when you lie about your military service in Vietnam, and the stuff the dais at your press conference with union members yelling "Hoooah!" over and over in a testament to your brave and noble service back in America, or wherever it was.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
I know there was nothing illegal about what she did. I do find it extremely hypocritical though when so called "champions of the poor" acquire wealth through methods which increase the cost of living for others.I think that when Obama couldn't purchase a neighboring property, but Tony Rezko could and flipped it back to him, that was a bigger ethical problem. Typical Chicago corruption. - If Warren's supporters have a problem with her playing the market for profit well then maybe they just have a problem with profit.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
She pulled down 400k+ as a prof and has the gumption to rail against high tuitionI know there was nothing illegal about what she did. I do find it extremely hypocritical though when so called "champions of the poor" acquire wealth through methods which increase the cost of living for others.I think that when Obama couldn't purchase a neighboring property, but Tony Rezko could and flipped it back to him, that was a bigger ethical problem. Typical Chicago corruption. - If Warren's supporters have a problem with her playing the market for profit well then maybe they just have a problem with profit.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
Again, you play within the rules set until you can get the rules changed.She pulled down 400k+ as a prof and has the gumption to rail against high tuitionI know there was nothing illegal about what she did. I do find it extremely hypocritical though when so called "champions of the poor" acquire wealth through methods which increase the cost of living for others.I think that when Obama couldn't purchase a neighboring property, but Tony Rezko could and flipped it back to him, that was a bigger ethical problem. Typical Chicago corruption. - If Warren's supporters have a problem with her playing the market for profit well then maybe they just have a problem with profit.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
Yeah, that article is a really stupid criticism. It's also a tad bit racist, IMO. I get that it's trying to play on the Native American claim TPW references above, but still...So now making money is wrong? Are you against the free market? Are you a hippy? Why do you hate America?The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
What she really did was loan her brother, a construction worker who lost his job, money so he could buy and rehab houses. This was well before the collapse. She didn't foreclose houses. She didn't do anything predatory. This is really just how desperate the conservatives are.
She pulled down 400k+ as a prof and has the gumption to rail against high tuitionI know there was nothing illegal about what she did. I do find it extremely hypocritical though when so called "champions of the poor" acquire wealth through methods which increase the cost of living for others.I think that when Obama couldn't purchase a neighboring property, but Tony Rezko could and flipped it back to him, that was a bigger ethical problem. Typical Chicago corruption. - If Warren's supporters have a problem with her playing the market for profit well then maybe they just have a problem with profit.The fact that Big Chief High Cheekbones is seriously being discussed as a presidential candidate in some circles is laughable. I guess enhancing your career via lying about your ethnic background is now considered acceptable, not to mention flipping wigwams for heap big wampum.
Video content aside this is gold for the awesome comments by the Warren rump swabs .The lunatic fringe have turned on Hillary already
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/13/elizabeth-warren-senate-leadership_n_6154784.htmlSenate Democrats Have No Idea Why Elizabeth Warren Got A New Leadership RoleWASHINGTON -- Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) got a promotion on Thursday. She now has a seat at the Senate Democratic leadership table and, in a role created just for her, she will serve as a policy adviser and voice for progressives.
Her colleagues have no idea why this is happening.
"A liaison to liberals? I've never heard of such a thing," said Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), throwing his hands in the air. "I asked her about it and she said she was some kind of adviser. I don't know what it is. I don't know what that all means."
“I didn’t even know this was happening. I never knew it,” said Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). “I mean, they can pick whoever they want to.”
Asked if he thought it was to help position Warren for a potential 2016 presidential run, Manchin said, “I really couldn’t speak to that.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) was the driving force behind creating the role for Warren, and he and his leadership team worked privately to figure out where she would best fit ahead of a Thursday caucus meeting, where Democrats elected their leaders for the next Congress. As the new strategic policy adviser to the Democratic Policy and Communications Center, Warren will attend weekly leadership meetings and help shape caucus policies.
The move to bring such a prominent progressive into Senate leadership will certainly fuel speculation about Warren’s interest in a White House bid, a topic she regularly brushes off. It also signals that Democratic leaders plan to keep pushing progressive polices, even as Republicans take control of the chamber next year.
But Democrats didn’t get to vote on whether to put Warren in leadership. Reid appointed her, so the caucus held a voice vote affirming the move.
"That wasn't really discussed,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said of Warren’s new role. “It's a fait accompli."
Asked what Democratic senators think about Warren's new role, Feinstein said only, “That subject never came up.”
"I don't know. I have no comment. I have no comment," Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) said, when asked if he thinks Warren's post is a good idea. "It was not a debatable issue."
“No,” said Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), asked if there was much debate on Warren’s new post.
To be sure, Democrats were quick to sing the praises of Warren, even if they were caught off guard by her new role. Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), a moderate member of the caucus, called it “terrific” that Warren was getting the post and said it’s wrong to brand the Massachusetts Democrat solely as a voice for progressives.
“She is not a lonely voice when it comes to trying to make sure Americans in this country get a fair shot,” McCaskill said. “I think Elizabeth Warren speaks for a lot of us when she talks about those issues, not just the more liberal organizations out there.”
“She's going be a strategic adviser to Sen. Schumer and I ... I think it’s a great idea,” said Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), a co-chair of Democrats' policy group with Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). “We are just reaffirming our commitment to do everything we can to make sure government works for folks so they have a fair shot to get ahead.”
“She is smart, she's effective, she knows how to deliver a message that really resonates with working families,” added Senate Majority Whip **** Durbin (D-Ill.). “It's a great choice by Leader Reid."
Still, in a sign of how quickly this new role for Warren appears to have come together, even Durbin said he doesn't know her new title.
“You’ll have to ask Leader Reid,” Durbin said. “I’m not sure.”
Fixed.Video content aside this is gold for the awesome comments by the Warren rump swabs .The smart people lunatic fringe have turned on Hillary already
We need more poor Senators.She pulled down 400k+ as a prof and has the gumption to rail against high tuition
They may want to be careful what they wish for.The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
This would be a lot of people's worst nightmare after 8 years of Barak acting all uppity.Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
2008 the year of intelligent women?They may want to be careful what they wish for.The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
See 2008.
And all the right people, too.This would be a lot of people's worst nightmare after 8 years of Barak acting all uppity.
How do you get thru life being so stupid?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
*throughHow do you get thru life being so stupid?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
Juvenile comments like this , which happen on both sides, always make the poster look dickish at best. Hyperbole or do you really think this is true?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
I'm not talking about anyone on the board but it was ridiculous the way she was attacked by Republicans.Juvenile comments like this , which happen on both sides, always make the poster look dickish at best.Hyperbole or do you really think this is true?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
Apparently they think it's true.Life is a lot simpler when you can dumb things down into broad generalizations.Juvenile comments like this , which happen on both sides, always make the poster look dickish at best. Hyperbole or do you really think this is true?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
Strongly doubt this.Well I think this little Warren led revolt by Warren against the Wall Street bad guys who of course are all in bed with the Clintons pretty much seals the deal that Warren will be running.
Explain the hate for her in the link I posted.Apparently they think it's true.Life is a lot simpler when you can dumb things down into broad generalizations.Juvenile comments like this , which happen on both sides, always make the poster look dickish at best.Hyperbole or do you really think this is true?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
Mr. McHenry did not back down. After the meeting broke, he said in a statement: “I was shocked by Ms. Warren’s blatant sense of entitlement. She was apparently under the assumption that she could dictate a one-hour time limit for her testimony to Congress, and that we were there at her behest instead of the other way around. This is just further example of her disregard for Congressional oversight.”
I was just thinking recently about how cool it was to see Warren kind of burst onto the scene, and then how disappointing it was when I finally saw her on TV. I pretty much gave up on her having a successful political career at that point. I assumed she'd be a helpful wonk working in someone else's administration. It's been surprising and gratifying to see her grow as a public speaker. Now she's rallying democrats--even conservative ones--and people are talking about her running for president as more than just a throw-in candidate. It's amazing how much a person can grow in 10 years.Widbil83 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-jon-stewart_n_5170325.html
She had such a bad case of nerves before the 2009 broadcast that Warren threw up. Twice.
"I was miserable. I had stage fright -- gut-wrenching, stomach-turning, bile-filled stage fright. And I was stuck in a gloomy little bathroom, about to go on The Daily Show," the Massachusetts Democrat recalls in her new book, A Fighting Chance, due out next week.
"I was having serious doubts about going through with this. I had talked to reporters and been interviewed plenty of times, but this was different. At any second, the whole interview could turn into a giant joke -- and what if the joke turned on the work I was trying to do?"
"For the zillionth time, I asked myself why on God's green earth I had agreed to sit down with Jon Stewart," Warren writes.
Widbil83 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-jon-stewart_n_5170325.html
She had such a bad case of nerves before the 2009 broadcast that Warren threw up. Twice.
"I was miserable. I had stage fright -- gut-wrenching, stomach-turning, bile-filled stage fright. And I was stuck in a gloomy little bathroom, about to go on The Daily Show," the Massachusetts Democrat recalls in her new book, A Fighting Chance, due out next week.
"I was having serious doubts about going through with this. I had talked to reporters and been interviewed plenty of times, but this was different. At any second, the whole interview could turn into a giant joke -- and what if the joke turned on the work I was trying to do?"
"For the zillionth time, I asked myself why on God's green earth I had agreed to sit down with Jon Stewart," Warren writes.I was just thinking recently about how cool it was to see Warren kind of burst onto the scene, and then how disappointing it was when I finally saw her on TV. I pretty much gave up on her having a successful political career at that point. I assumed she'd be a helpful wonk working in someone else's administration. It's been surprising and gratifying to see her grow as a public speaker. Now she's rallying democrats--even conservative ones--and people are talking about her running for president as more than just a throw-in candidate. It's amazing how much a person can grow in 10 years.
This post is akin to Tim complaining that someone else is posting too much.Juvenile comments like this , which happen on both sides, always make the poster look dickish at best.Hyperbole or do you really think this is true?Bingo! She won't sit down and shut up like they want all women to do (unless they're 'hot' - read: Sarah Palin). How dare she challenge their authority over this great Christian nation?The truth - it drives Republicans crazy that she's an intelligent woman who's not afraid to challenge people.
wutWidbil83 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-jon-stewart_n_5170325.html
She had such a bad case of nerves before the 2009 broadcast that Warren threw up. Twice.
"I was miserable. I had stage fright -- gut-wrenching, stomach-turning, bile-filled stage fright. And I was stuck in a gloomy little bathroom, about to go on The Daily Show," the Massachusetts Democrat recalls in her new book, A Fighting Chance, due out next week.
"I was having serious doubts about going through with this. I had talked to reporters and been interviewed plenty of times, but this was different. At any second, the whole interview could turn into a giant joke -- and what if the joke turned on the work I was trying to do?"
"For the zillionth time, I asked myself why on God's green earth I had agreed to sit down with Jon Stewart," Warren writes.I was just thinking recently about how cool it was to see Warren kind of burst onto the scene, and then how disappointing it was when I finally saw her on TV. I pretty much gave up on her having a successful political career at that point. I assumed she'd be a helpful wonk working in someone else's administration. It's been surprising and gratifying to see her grow as a public speaker. Now she's rallying democrats--even conservative ones--and people are talking about her running for president as more than just a throw-in candidate. It's amazing how much a person can grow in 10 years.![]()
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I'm laughing at her being nervous about going on Jon Stewart, as if the kids' gloves weren't warmed, dried, and even laced up for the host when she was on.wutWidbil83 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-jon-stewart_n_5170325.html
She had such a bad case of nerves before the 2009 broadcast that Warren threw up. Twice.
"I was miserable. I had stage fright -- gut-wrenching, stomach-turning, bile-filled stage fright. And I was stuck in a gloomy little bathroom, about to go on The Daily Show," the Massachusetts Democrat recalls in her new book, A Fighting Chance, due out next week.
"I was having serious doubts about going through with this. I had talked to reporters and been interviewed plenty of times, but this was different. At any second, the whole interview could turn into a giant joke -- and what if the joke turned on the work I was trying to do?"
"For the zillionth time, I asked myself why on God's green earth I had agreed to sit down with Jon Stewart," Warren writes.I was just thinking recently about how cool it was to see Warren kind of burst onto the scene, and then how disappointing it was when I finally saw her on TV. I pretty much gave up on her having a successful political career at that point. I assumed she'd be a helpful wonk working in someone else's administration. It's been surprising and gratifying to see her grow as a public speaker. Now she's rallying democrats--even conservative ones--and people are talking about her running for president as more than just a throw-in candidate. It's amazing how much a person can grow in 10 years.![]()
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Oh, whew. I wouldn't be surprised if Warren has a little crush on J-Stew.I'm laughing at her being nervous about going on Jon Stewart, as if the kids' gloves weren't warmed, dried, and even laced up for the host when she was on.wutWidbil83 said:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/elizabeth-warren-jon-stewart_n_5170325.html
She had such a bad case of nerves before the 2009 broadcast that Warren threw up. Twice.
"I was miserable. I had stage fright -- gut-wrenching, stomach-turning, bile-filled stage fright. And I was stuck in a gloomy little bathroom, about to go on The Daily Show," the Massachusetts Democrat recalls in her new book, A Fighting Chance, due out next week.
"I was having serious doubts about going through with this. I had talked to reporters and been interviewed plenty of times, but this was different. At any second, the whole interview could turn into a giant joke -- and what if the joke turned on the work I was trying to do?"
"For the zillionth time, I asked myself why on God's green earth I had agreed to sit down with Jon Stewart," Warren writes.I was just thinking recently about how cool it was to see Warren kind of burst onto the scene, and then how disappointing it was when I finally saw her on TV. I pretty much gave up on her having a successful political career at that point. I assumed she'd be a helpful wonk working in someone else's administration. It's been surprising and gratifying to see her grow as a public speaker. Now she's rallying democrats--even conservative ones--and people are talking about her running for president as more than just a throw-in candidate. It's amazing how much a person can grow in 10 years.![]()
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I crossed out your quote because I didn't want to involve your comment in my ridicule of her, but I was too lazy to find the original quote from WidBill83 that was back in June.
Wouldn't she be more likely to have a little crush on Ellen?Oh, whew. I wouldn't be surprised if Warren has a little crush on J-Stew.
Warren won't run for President this time around. However, her backers might push for her to be Senate Majority Leader in 2017. I doubt that will happen either.
300 Former Obama Staffers Urge Elizabeth Warren to Run for President
A group of more than 300 hundred former Obama staffers have written an open letter urging Elizabeth Warren to run for president of the United States. "We helped elect Barack Obama — now we’re calling on Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016," the letter is titled.
We believed in an unlikely candidate who no one thought had a chance.
We worked for him — and against all odds, we won in Iowa.
We organized like no campaign had organized before — and won the Democratic primary.
We built a movement — and the country elected the first-ever African American president.
We know that the improbable is far from impossible.
Now, former staffers from President Obama’s campaigns, along with former staffers from OFA, are joining with the thousands of Americans who are calling on Elizabeth Warren to run for president in 2016.
Rising income inequality is the challenge of our times, and we want someone who will stand up for working families and take on the Wall Street banks and special interests that took down our economy.
We urge Elizabeth Warren to run for president in 2016.
The list of former Obama staffers who signed the letter is here.
The letter was organized by a group called Ready for Warren. The group's goal is to get Warren to run for president.
"We are ready for Elizabeth Warren to run for President in 2016," reads the group's website.
"Warren is the backbone that the Democratic Party too often forgets it needs. She has inspired a movement—yet to jump into the race for president, we need to show the Senator that she’s got support all across the country, from Oklahoma to Massachusetts, from Florida to Nevada.
OK.Warren won't run for President this time around. However, her backers might push for her to be Senate Majority Leader in 2017. I doubt that will happen either.