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"If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yo (1 Viewer)
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trogg78
Footballguy
There's plenty of blame to go around, but the issue has nothing to do with blame. It has everything to do with how #16 views women and relationships.
Keerock
Footballguy
Paging bigbottom to the white courtesy phone...
Sung to the tune of "Melissa" by the Allman Brothers.
Sixteen, can't seem to let go, yeah.
He tries to move on, tries to boast.
Hawaii trip, done him wrong.
She's with PT, havin' fun,
But back home Sixteen will run
To sweet Corlyssa...
Can't change, others all look the same, all the same.
And no one knows poor Rusty's name
No one hears his lonely sighs,
As he dreams of her creamy thighs
Shows all his crackin' moves, still PT lies
With sweet Corlyssa...
Again the morning's come,
Again he's on the run,
Bedding coke whores on a dare,
Appearing not to have a care.
Well, pick up your balls and Sixteen move on, move on.
Sixteen, he so needs to let her go.
Do as EG told him so,
But he will pine, to his last day,
Damn the wisdom of FFA
Yes we know that he won't stray from sweet Corlyssa.
Yeah we know that he won't stay without Corlyssa.
Just won't stay.
Sung to the tune of "Melissa" by the Allman Brothers.
Sixteen, can't seem to let go, yeah.
He tries to move on, tries to boast.
Hawaii trip, done him wrong.
She's with PT, havin' fun,
But back home Sixteen will run
To sweet Corlyssa...
Can't change, others all look the same, all the same.
And no one knows poor Rusty's name
No one hears his lonely sighs,
As he dreams of her creamy thighs
Shows all his crackin' moves, still PT lies
With sweet Corlyssa...
Again the morning's come,
Again he's on the run,
Bedding coke whores on a dare,
Appearing not to have a care.
Well, pick up your balls and Sixteen move on, move on.
Sixteen, he so needs to let her go.
Do as EG told him so,
But he will pine, to his last day,
Damn the wisdom of FFA
Yes we know that he won't stray from sweet Corlyssa.
Yeah we know that he won't stay without Corlyssa.
Just won't stay.
That would be a valid point if he ever defelcted the blame from the woman. He didn't. He simply said that No 16 was a POS also. I'm sure you've heard that old adage about two wrongs not making a right.
Ray Karpis
Footballguy
Darn writer's block.
The night was.....sultry.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Well he was in a relationship with a woman and thought it was headed toward marriage, then the whore cheated on him. That might affect his outlook a bit.Kinda ridiculous to try to discern a single woman's relationship status with a boyfriend. Lots of people pursue a last fling before settling down.A married woman is different, I would always honor that commitment without exception. Which is difficult because they can be the most aggressive when they aren't getting any at home.
rodg12
Footballguy
Socrates11
Footballguy
Wait wait wait, I thought she was already planning to break up with PT? Damn I think I missed a few pages somewhere. So she was ready to break it off with PT, then you told her to pound sand when she was playing games, so then she went right back to PT like nothing ever happened? She could at least have broken up with him anyway and stayed single for awhile in an attempt to get her bat####craziness under control."Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker."
No. 16
Footballguy
I didn't sleep with a married woman. Remember I passed up on that chance after I found out she was married? I felt I needed to reply to this because I wanted to address my views on relationships and women.Right, now I am jealous and envious of those who are in actual loving relationships. Maybe, I'm not doing the single thing right but honestly I'd trade this lifestyle to be able to find someone to start a family and share a future with. I get the single thing and as long as I'm single I will party and try to bang everything in sight, but as I am going through this phase in my life (I am enjoying it)... I know for sure this isn't what I want for the rest of my life. Since all this has happened my view of women has changed drastically..... for the worst. Surprise, I know. Before, I believed there were good women who would stay true to the very end, but now I pretty much think that every woman is capable of cheating. That doesn't mean that ALL women cheat, but at least now I understand that it is a possibility with every woman if the proper work and attention is not given. So with all that right now I'm just going out there and playing the game. I'll stay single and bone as many girls as possible until I find that someone worthy to be my partner. I have the finish line in sight, but there's no rush to get there.'trogg78 said:
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Plenty, I assure you. We've even had video. You've got a long ways to go, champ.You guys are hard to please?What FBG has even come close to "F-B-G" pics?'EYLive said:Film the hotel encounter, post the vid:e--> Instant FBG Legend status.
No. 16
Footballguy
Damn. Why am I not cool enough to see these?Plenty, I assure you. We've even had video. You've got a long ways to go, champ.You guys are hard to please?What FBG has even come close to "F-B-G" pics?'EYLive said:Film the hotel encounter, post the vid:e
Tick
Footballguy
Remember that for the rest of your life and this whole episode (well, season) will have been worth it.
Tick
Footballguy
16's already a FBG legend - you're just asking him to be a l:e:gend.Plenty, I assure you. We've even had video. You've got a long ways to go, champ.You guys are hard to please?What FBG has even come close to "F-B-G" pics?'EYLive said:Film the hotel encounter, post the vid:e
ditka...mike ditka
Footballguy
So whats the hold up on telling us what happened when you were supposed to pick her up to go to the hotel?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Did I miss the hotel room update?
trogg78
Footballguy
Sounds like the recipe for finding Ms. Right. Girls DTF probably don't always make the best "partner" imo.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
That's a great idea. Let's call that idea 1.
This is idea 2. Idea 2 doesn't lead to a life with idea 1.
Then you'll have to stop doing it at some point.
You can replace "woman" with "human being" in that sentence. When people aren't treated the way they want to be treated, they go somewhere they are treated well, even if only temporarily.
First, I would recommend looking for someone "compatible" rather than "worthy." You start making value judgments whether someone else is "worthy" to be with you, keep in mind that during the "worthiness" test on the other side she may want to look into why you have to blow into your ignition to start your car and whether or not you're the kind of guy who would put the naked pictures she let you take up on the internet. Second, if you don't want to be with someone like the women you're hanging out with for the rest of your life, and you're looking for someone to be with for the rest of your life, you should probably change the kind of women you're hanging out with. "I'll bone as many women as possible until one of them turns out to be a true genteel lady" isn't a great strategy for finding a life partner.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
No ####. I think he knows this. Let him enjoy this phase of his life. He'll get tired of it eventually and then take other avenues to find his next serious relationship. Now isn't the time.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
His stated strategy is to "bone as many girls as possible until I find that someone worthy to be my partner." I don't think he does know this.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I don't assume he's thinking the partner is necessarily going to be one of the "many girls as possible." If it happens, great, if not, he'll look elsewhere. At some point finding the partner will become more important than boning as many girls as possible and he'll change his tactics. There's enough to tease him about without scrounging for stuff like this. Give the guy a break.
Agreed (insomuch that I still believe we are talking about a fictional situation). Finding a partner isn't going to happen at a bar or club. Nor do I think it will be the result of a concentrated effort on his part. I don't think you can plan to meet the woman you will fall in love with. It will just happen randomly. So the two situations are likely separate.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
I agree that you can't plan to meet a woman to fall in love with on any particular day, and that there is some randomness to meeting a person you will fall in love with, but I think it's definitely never going to happen if you only put yourself in romantic situations with incompatible people. There's a lot of randomness to getting a royal flush, but I'm absolutely certain I won't get one if I'm playing roulette.
JFT Ben
Footballguy
Surprise this line didn't get more play. That is hypergamy man, if you get complacent, if there are better options, she could cheat on you. Doesn't mean she will; morals, opportunity, ability to rationalize all play a part.
No. 16
Footballguy
"Goodbye?"
I pulled up to her place around 2110 and sent her a text that I was outside. A few minutes later she appeared with a duffel bag in hand. I popped my trunk, hopped out of the car, and helped her put her stuff away. We hugged each other, I opened the car door for her, and then off we went.
The dinner spot I had picked was a highly reviewed hipster restaurant that I had been dying to try ever since we were together. We had tried to dine there a few times before, but the place was always busy and we could never get any table reservations for a decent hour. Even now the best we could do was 2230. On our drive to the restaurant, we fell back into our old habits: her yapping away and me trying to get her to give me road head. Seriously, our car ride was just like the thousands of others we shared over the past 7 years. Everything seemed to just fall back into place. We didn't discuss anything important or about our relationship. Just the every day mundane conversations that couples have to fill time between arguing and sex. This being the start of the evening I purposely wanted to avoid all "serious" talk while we were heading into a public setting.
We finally arrived to the restaurant and were seated immediately. Even at this hour the restaurant was lively and filled with people having a good time. At dinner nothing eventful really happened. We sat next to each other like we always did at restaurants, fed each other from our different entrees, and just continued having a good time together. She was definitely more intimate at dinner than we had been previously. She placed her hand on my thigh, held my hand, etc. The food was awesome and we agreed it was worthy of coming back to in the future. We had our food packed (portions were huge) and split the bill. On the car ride back, she fell asleep...just like she always did while I navigated back to our hotel.
Once we arrived at the hotel we began getting ready for bed. I pulled off my shirt and pants and brushed my teeth in my boxer briefs. While I was brushing my teeth, she came into the the bathroom, started brushing her teeth while peeing. I always found it disgusting when she would do that, but some things never change. I left the bathroom after taking a quick piss and laid in bed as I waited her to finish her nightly routine. After a few moments, she laid in bed next to me and rested her head in my chest. We talked for a bit about this being our last time together, shared what we missed about each other, etc. I also asked her to tell me the truth about one thing... if she ever had any physical interaction with PT while we were still together. She said, "No and that their first kiss was in Hawaii." I could tell she was telling me the truth. After awhile, she thanked me for a great evening and stated that she was tired. She gave me a kiss on the lips and said "Good night."
Of course yours truly would not let it end there and I know she was expecting it as well otherwise she would have never agreed to spending the night in the hotel. Ever since we first reconnected back in July and after we spent an evening in a hotel room making out and dry humping, she had always resisted my requests to stay in a room together. Who knows why but this time she did not. I started out by caressing her sides, then the small of her back, and then eventually grabbing her ###. While my hands were glazing her body, I started to nibble on her ear, kiss the small of her neck, and started to work my way down to her breasts.
While this was going on she was saying things like, "Stop. I have a boyfriend", "You're going to get me in trouble.", "You're bad, No. 16".... but while her words told me one thing, her body told me another as she arched her back, ran her hands over my body, and pulled me closer and gently guided me downwards. Once I had gotten her worked up, I tried advancing the action, but then for the first time I felt some hesitance on her part. She said that we should stop. I then told her I had protection with me and once she heard that everything was a "GO." We didn't "####", but we didn't necessarily "make love." It was passionate but not. Not sure how to explain it, but it wasn't the glorious return of love or the cathartic release I was expecting. It was what it was.
After we had finished, we laid there in bed. I tried to get her to go another round, but then she told me she felt bad for what she did since she was with PT still. She was feeling guilty now. Honestly, I don't give a #### about that guy, but I did feel bad that she felt guilty. I asked her why she did it then and she said that it felt good and that she still loved me, but she still felt guilty. I told her maybe it said something about her relationship with PT and she replied "I don't know." I asked her if she would tell PT and she said "Yes" and then she made me promise that I not tell him.
Honestly, I didn't care to tell the PT. That's between them. Yes, in the past I had threatened to interfere in their relationship, but that was when I wanted to be with her no matter what. That's when I was tired of being the "little secret" and wanted her to pick me over him. Now, I don't care. I only want to be with someone who wants to be with me. Someone who I didn't have to fight for. I would no longer take being there for her only when she wanted me to be. It was all or nothing. That's what it was in my mind. Eventually the conversation was replaced by silence and then snores.
Her cell phone rang around 0700 in the morning. It was the PT. She got out of bed and stepped into the bathroom, locking the door behind her. I fell back asleep and after sometime I was awakened by her snuggling up next to me in bed. We talked a bit more about our "relationship" or whatever the #### it is. I told her that this was the last time I would hang out with her. That I didn't want anything to do with her if PT was in her life. Eventually, it led to talk about why we're not together and she brought it back to the how she can't shake the images of me sleeping with a bunch of girls. How I party too much now, etc. I tell her that while I'm single, I'm going to act single but I would trade it all away in a heartbeat to begin the next phase of my life. I also tell her that before I wasn't open to being with someone else, but now I truly am ready to give someone else a chance. I told her about after the latest Vegas trip, I regained my confidence with women telling me I was sexy, and that I was tired of her treating me like ####. She talks about how she knows we would be happy together. How I treated her better than PT, and the like. It's all stuff that we've been over before and that I've heard from her before. However, no matter how great she tells me I am and how much she wants to be with me.... PT is still in the picture. So at this point I know better to follow her actions and not her words.
It was getting near to check out and as she was changing into clothes, I tried to #### her again, but she wasn't having it because she she still felt bad for last night. I asked her to give me a beej, but she said she doesn't know if I have an STD... so I settled for an enthusiastic HJ from her with her nude body as my target.
Eventually, we checked out of the hotel but you could tell neither of us wanted it to end so we decided on having brunch at one of our favorite soul food restaurants. After brunch, we continued the day by going indoor rock climbing and after that we concluded our afternoon/evening by walking around central park hand in hand talking about what we want in life (family, kids, etc.). Nothing about specifically us together, but just in general the things we wanted. It was a nice walk and honestly something I wish we had done sooner in our relationship. I actually enjoyed it. This is what gets me the most. If I had done these things before, we would still be together.
It was getting late and she didn't want to worry her roommate (my GB's GF) so I dropped her off at her place. We spent a few lingering moments in the car, not really wanting to say bye, but knowing we had to. She asked if she could call me so we could hang out and I re-affirmed that I wanted nothing to do with her if PT was still in her life. She even asked... how about we spend one more night together? I told her, if we do I would try making love to her again and I didn't want her in that position if she felt guilty from the night before. She asked me, "So this means you won't talk to me anymore?" and I told her, "I don't want anything to do with you if PT is still in your life." She just looked at me and knew I was serious. We hugged, kissed each other, and she stepped out of the car. I watched her disappear into the apartment complex and I drove home. Everything the same as it ever was.
I pulled up to her place around 2110 and sent her a text that I was outside. A few minutes later she appeared with a duffel bag in hand. I popped my trunk, hopped out of the car, and helped her put her stuff away. We hugged each other, I opened the car door for her, and then off we went.
The dinner spot I had picked was a highly reviewed hipster restaurant that I had been dying to try ever since we were together. We had tried to dine there a few times before, but the place was always busy and we could never get any table reservations for a decent hour. Even now the best we could do was 2230. On our drive to the restaurant, we fell back into our old habits: her yapping away and me trying to get her to give me road head. Seriously, our car ride was just like the thousands of others we shared over the past 7 years. Everything seemed to just fall back into place. We didn't discuss anything important or about our relationship. Just the every day mundane conversations that couples have to fill time between arguing and sex. This being the start of the evening I purposely wanted to avoid all "serious" talk while we were heading into a public setting.
We finally arrived to the restaurant and were seated immediately. Even at this hour the restaurant was lively and filled with people having a good time. At dinner nothing eventful really happened. We sat next to each other like we always did at restaurants, fed each other from our different entrees, and just continued having a good time together. She was definitely more intimate at dinner than we had been previously. She placed her hand on my thigh, held my hand, etc. The food was awesome and we agreed it was worthy of coming back to in the future. We had our food packed (portions were huge) and split the bill. On the car ride back, she fell asleep...just like she always did while I navigated back to our hotel.
Once we arrived at the hotel we began getting ready for bed. I pulled off my shirt and pants and brushed my teeth in my boxer briefs. While I was brushing my teeth, she came into the the bathroom, started brushing her teeth while peeing. I always found it disgusting when she would do that, but some things never change. I left the bathroom after taking a quick piss and laid in bed as I waited her to finish her nightly routine. After a few moments, she laid in bed next to me and rested her head in my chest. We talked for a bit about this being our last time together, shared what we missed about each other, etc. I also asked her to tell me the truth about one thing... if she ever had any physical interaction with PT while we were still together. She said, "No and that their first kiss was in Hawaii." I could tell she was telling me the truth. After awhile, she thanked me for a great evening and stated that she was tired. She gave me a kiss on the lips and said "Good night."
Of course yours truly would not let it end there and I know she was expecting it as well otherwise she would have never agreed to spending the night in the hotel. Ever since we first reconnected back in July and after we spent an evening in a hotel room making out and dry humping, she had always resisted my requests to stay in a room together. Who knows why but this time she did not. I started out by caressing her sides, then the small of her back, and then eventually grabbing her ###. While my hands were glazing her body, I started to nibble on her ear, kiss the small of her neck, and started to work my way down to her breasts.
While this was going on she was saying things like, "Stop. I have a boyfriend", "You're going to get me in trouble.", "You're bad, No. 16".... but while her words told me one thing, her body told me another as she arched her back, ran her hands over my body, and pulled me closer and gently guided me downwards. Once I had gotten her worked up, I tried advancing the action, but then for the first time I felt some hesitance on her part. She said that we should stop. I then told her I had protection with me and once she heard that everything was a "GO." We didn't "####", but we didn't necessarily "make love." It was passionate but not. Not sure how to explain it, but it wasn't the glorious return of love or the cathartic release I was expecting. It was what it was.
After we had finished, we laid there in bed. I tried to get her to go another round, but then she told me she felt bad for what she did since she was with PT still. She was feeling guilty now. Honestly, I don't give a #### about that guy, but I did feel bad that she felt guilty. I asked her why she did it then and she said that it felt good and that she still loved me, but she still felt guilty. I told her maybe it said something about her relationship with PT and she replied "I don't know." I asked her if she would tell PT and she said "Yes" and then she made me promise that I not tell him.
Honestly, I didn't care to tell the PT. That's between them. Yes, in the past I had threatened to interfere in their relationship, but that was when I wanted to be with her no matter what. That's when I was tired of being the "little secret" and wanted her to pick me over him. Now, I don't care. I only want to be with someone who wants to be with me. Someone who I didn't have to fight for. I would no longer take being there for her only when she wanted me to be. It was all or nothing. That's what it was in my mind. Eventually the conversation was replaced by silence and then snores.
Her cell phone rang around 0700 in the morning. It was the PT. She got out of bed and stepped into the bathroom, locking the door behind her. I fell back asleep and after sometime I was awakened by her snuggling up next to me in bed. We talked a bit more about our "relationship" or whatever the #### it is. I told her that this was the last time I would hang out with her. That I didn't want anything to do with her if PT was in her life. Eventually, it led to talk about why we're not together and she brought it back to the how she can't shake the images of me sleeping with a bunch of girls. How I party too much now, etc. I tell her that while I'm single, I'm going to act single but I would trade it all away in a heartbeat to begin the next phase of my life. I also tell her that before I wasn't open to being with someone else, but now I truly am ready to give someone else a chance. I told her about after the latest Vegas trip, I regained my confidence with women telling me I was sexy, and that I was tired of her treating me like ####. She talks about how she knows we would be happy together. How I treated her better than PT, and the like. It's all stuff that we've been over before and that I've heard from her before. However, no matter how great she tells me I am and how much she wants to be with me.... PT is still in the picture. So at this point I know better to follow her actions and not her words.
It was getting near to check out and as she was changing into clothes, I tried to #### her again, but she wasn't having it because she she still felt bad for last night. I asked her to give me a beej, but she said she doesn't know if I have an STD... so I settled for an enthusiastic HJ from her with her nude body as my target.
Eventually, we checked out of the hotel but you could tell neither of us wanted it to end so we decided on having brunch at one of our favorite soul food restaurants. After brunch, we continued the day by going indoor rock climbing and after that we concluded our afternoon/evening by walking around central park hand in hand talking about what we want in life (family, kids, etc.). Nothing about specifically us together, but just in general the things we wanted. It was a nice walk and honestly something I wish we had done sooner in our relationship. I actually enjoyed it. This is what gets me the most. If I had done these things before, we would still be together.
It was getting late and she didn't want to worry her roommate (my GB's GF) so I dropped her off at her place. We spent a few lingering moments in the car, not really wanting to say bye, but knowing we had to. She asked if she could call me so we could hang out and I re-affirmed that I wanted nothing to do with her if PT was still in her life. She even asked... how about we spend one more night together? I told her, if we do I would try making love to her again and I didn't want her in that position if she felt guilty from the night before. She asked me, "So this means you won't talk to me anymore?" and I told her, "I don't want anything to do with you if PT is still in your life." She just looked at me and knew I was serious. We hugged, kissed each other, and she stepped out of the car. I watched her disappear into the apartment complex and I drove home. Everything the same as it ever was.
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Kenny Blankenship
Footballguy
Wrong, she would've done this to you anyway. Also her saying about the sleeping with women stuff and how she cant get passed that is just an excuse. If she really wanted to be with you she would. Now you know that even when you go back it will never be the same. Stick to the part that you need a woman who wants your for you and you wont have to fight for. Someone that truly loves you. Until then just have fun, fix yourself and bang some chicks.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
What "central park"? Was this in the city or down in Castro Valley or wherever the hell it is you live?
Begging a cheating ex-girlfriend for a HJ then holding hands while taking a romantic walk in the park discussing "the future" despite the fact that she's actively boning someone else. Jeeeesus.
I particularly liked the "she looked at me and knew I was serious" part. Of course you are.
I particularly liked the "she looked at me and knew I was serious" part. Of course you are.
Mister Martie
Footballguy
Dude, she banged the PT when she was with you. Not sure why you would buy her denial about it.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Four stars, a triumph! No. 16 at his absolute best! If you read only one post this fall, make it this one!
jomar
Footballguy
But 16 could tell she was telling the truth.....
16 is asian. i say steve byrne.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
There are no Asian leads in U.S. made movies. Even Harold had to have a buddy. No.16 will be anglified - and you'll like it! Just pray they let him still be a Ws fan in the adaptation.
simmonjm
Footballguy
Keanu Reeves would be my choice
Quint
Footballguy
Michael Cera.
Controller
Footballguy
Is he the guy who jumped out of the trunk naked in The Hangover? If so, he would be perfect for the role.
gianmarco
Footballguy
DocGonzo
Footballguy
Wait, what was on your hands?
Whitetail Hunter
Footballguy
Is the girl asian too?Any pics anywhere?
