TripItUp
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A friend of mine is retired in Belize. He lives in a community of mostly 50-something Americans and he says it feels like living in Florida except with fewer crazy people.
Wait until he needs a doctor.
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If you were moving OUTSIDE the USA for retirement, where would you go? (4 Viewers)
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Wait until he needs a doctor.
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Yeah, I've said the same thing to him. But he likes to travel, so even if he was based in the U.S. he would be out of the country 9 months out of the year.
A friend of mine is retired in Belize. He lives in a community of mostly 50-something Americans and he says it feels like living in Florida except with fewer crazy people.
Wait until he needs a doctor.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Portugal for me
I have family there, speak the language and its basically a 7 hour flight available daily to the NYC area should i need to return.
Cost of living is very cheap if you avoid the major tourist spots. Majority of people would speak English.
My wife would never do it so that may be all the motivation i need to go...I'll send her some postcards.
I have family there, speak the language and its basically a 7 hour flight available daily to the NYC area should i need to return.
Cost of living is very cheap if you avoid the major tourist spots. Majority of people would speak English.
My wife would never do it so that may be all the motivation i need to go...I'll send her some postcards.
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TripItUp
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The original post implied you could live in Switzerland however, your money obviously goes less further there.That and it’s one of the more expensive places in the world to live, which is awesome when you’re on a fixed income
rockaction
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Terminalxylem
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Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I understand. But much like the US, people with money are able to get good medical care, especially in countries with medical tourism. And unless you abruptly developed an imminently life threatening illness, routine care is algorhythmic - hence the shift to non physician providers doing a lot of it in this country. You could return to the developed world if you had something more rare requiring special expertise or technology.
Then again, dying quickly at a beautiful destination doesn’t sound too bad either.
TripItUp
Footballguy
If you have the option of going back to the US for medical care, that would Definitely create more options.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Alaska.
RC94
Footballguy
Lots of countries in Europe I would consider, as well as Grand Cayman. I would also consider Panama, Belize and Costa Rica. They aren't really 3rd world countries anymore and have a large and growing expat population. I used to think Dominican Republic could be a good option, but not anymore.
Brony
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
ok ...outside of being so rich you don't care, why are we looking at places that are way more expensive than the States?
Also, clearly, costs vary greatly across the country. (speaking from a very reasonably priced part of the country).
Also, clearly, costs vary greatly across the country. (speaking from a very reasonably priced part of the country).
NutterButter
Footballguy
Definitely something to consider. I don't care how well you take care of yourself, eventually you're going to have problems and being misdiagnosed and/or mistreated could be a disaster.TripItUp said:
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Montreal.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Several Montreal votes surprise me. What’s the appeal?
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Scotland. Easy choice.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Pretty brutal place to live 6+ months out of there year - little sun, cold AF, brutal weather.
But it’s really beautiful in summer.
wilked
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Major
Footballguy
It's an amazing city. One of my favorites in North America. Feels like a mix of Europe and America. Not sure I can live there full time due to the winters but the Spring and Summer are ideal.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Yeah, I was thinking the weather sucks and I’m more interested in the outdoors than culture, with the possible exception of cuisine. I assume they have a lot of French places, oui?
whoknew
Footballguy
Panama is good because its infrastructure was helped along by a big American presence. So the water is fine. And its my understanding that they've good health care.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I've actually looked into moving to NZ NOW, screw waiting for retirement. There's a fairly robust slice of my industry there (relatively speaking, of course. NZ isn't very big) and not a ton of population to pull from to fill all necessary positions.
Logistically, I just don't think it'll ever work out (and I'd probably have to leave my 'fraidy cat wife here if I really intended to take that kind of a leap), but I could probably talk myself into doing it pretty easily. The landscape there is beautiful, the Kiwis I have got to meet through work/etc. have all been genuinely positive and/or empathetic individuals, and it's far, far away from most of the frothing yahoos I've been forced to deal with in these parts the past couple of decades.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
double *middle finger to BBS software everywhere**
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Workhorse
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Just got back from a trip through Austria and I have to agree. From Salzburg to Vienna, there are countless great small towns in the Austrian wine region: Melk, Spitz, Krems, Aggsbach, etc....
But my pick would have to be Prague. So much to do there, reasonable cost of living, great food scene, amazing people, and a beautiful city in so many ways.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I know a guy that’s semi-retired in NZ, and I’ve also considered moving there before retirement.
The two barriers are: my wife’s elderly parents (she doesn’t want to abandon them) and the unpaid speeding ticket I got on our honeymoon while on the South Island 7 years ago.
The General
Footballguy
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
I would probably choose Portugal for the costs and location. I don't speak the language, but I speak Spanish and would probably pick it up quickly. When I visited there years ago, the coastline there reminded me of the California coast quite a bit.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I see that Vermont and Maine are listed as 4th and 5th most popular retirement states (same climate as Montreal), would most people who retire there go to Florida for the winters like so many Canadian retirees do?
Leroy Hoard
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DallasDMac
Footballguy
Bali. Lots of ex-pats. Could pretty much live like a king with the cash I already have put back. Looking at it already TBH.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I’ve never been to New Zealand but I believe it’s a good choice from what I’ve heard. Too far away for me, though. The appeal of Montreal includes the proximity (you can drive there easily), the temperate summers, the European feel, the fantastic cuisine and night life, and the Canadian health care. I could see Florida in the winters and Montreal in summer. Sounds very good.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
malta looks interesting as well
-OZ-
Footballguy
That's my working assumption, that we're still capable of traveling back to the States once in a while, maybe annually.
I'd probably be good with 6 months in New Zealand, 6 months back in the States.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I could get on board with that.
Decent beach house in Florida, gulf shores or the Carolinas plus Montreal or NZ... could work well if you have a decent support network in both places.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
If you don't mind sharing, what part is he living in? By "semi-retired" I'm guessing you're talking part-time there/part-time states? Or are you meaning he's there all the time, but still does some work?
I did a lot of reading on both the ex-pat/full citizen angles for relocating to Wellington about 7-8 months ago when my job here went sideways (for what feels like the umpteenth time in the last 5 years); comparisons on cost of living, "quality of life" type stuff, etc, etc. I honestly think the biggest reason I stopped pursuing it in earnest was that I wouldn't know what to do with my dog if I decided I wanted to live abroad (maybe permanently) even if I could convince the wife to do it.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Florida Keys. They’re barely in the US.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I just got back from a party, where one of the guests was an Ecuadorean physician. She said the healthcare sucks FWIW.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Somewhere on the N Island. He’s a cardiologist who works in Hawaii part of the year, lives in NZ the rest. I can’t recall if he has a NZ license for medicine.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Watch the prices and cost of living in Belize skyrocket over the next 20 years as it becomes the de facto retirement destination for rich North Americans, starting with present Boomers to future retiring Gen-Xers. Like how home prices and cost of living spiked in Portland and Seattle as people from California started to look for cheaper COL climes.
Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver has always been a potential for me as I'm still a citizen (my kids are dual) and my retirement dollars could stretch 30% further (depending on exchange rates). But COL is super high in all three places -- moving outside of the GMAs of these towns is the likely move.
What about Panama? I think they use the US dollar as their currency, which may or may not be advantageous. Close to the US in case you need to come back for health care, they have a pensioner discount that applies to a bunch of things regardless if you are a citizen or not, and some pretty amazing coastal areas for those that like the beach. I don't know too much about it.
Montreal, Toronto, or Vancouver has always been a potential for me as I'm still a citizen (my kids are dual) and my retirement dollars could stretch 30% further (depending on exchange rates). But COL is super high in all three places -- moving outside of the GMAs of these towns is the likely move.
What about Panama? I think they use the US dollar as their currency, which may or may not be advantageous. Close to the US in case you need to come back for health care, they have a pensioner discount that applies to a bunch of things regardless if you are a citizen or not, and some pretty amazing coastal areas for those that like the beach. I don't know too much about it.
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