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IMO - Brett Favre doesn't want to be a Jet. (1 Viewer)

Ditkaless Wonders said:
sho nuff said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
The body language of a 38 year old man who had flown across country to engage in a contact sport was less than peppy when playing on an ankle he painfully rolled over and sprained, an ankle that he has had chronic trouble with and was considering more surgery on, color me shocked.

BTW his Q.B. rating is higher this year than his lifetime average. On a painful ankle against a desperate team which was a preseason favorite, on the road, his Q.B. rating in that game exceeded his career average. I agree Favre is experiencing culture shock, but he is producing. If the jets need a scapegoat they could look elsewhere, like their other free agent acquisitions who are underperforming, their R.B. who seemsonly sporadically motivated, their petulent recieving star who has sulked since Favre's arrival, or their rookie phenom who apparently can't tackle or even lineup correctly.
Ummm...QB rating aside...to say he is producing after a game where his 2 INTs were very costly and a huge part of why they got so behind is a bit out there.Im not saying other people did not mess up in that game...but lets not just look at rating and act as if none of the loss was on Favre.
Because that was my argument. Gotcha.Reading comprehension may not be your best thing.
What was the point of all of the excuses about his ankle and the desperate team, and on the road and bringing up his QB rating in that game?
 
Kiddnets said:
Reaper said:
He's playing like a man defeated. He wanted another shot at the Super Bowl, which was why he wanted to play for the Vikings.

But now that he's playing for the Jets, and he knows they have no shot at a ring, he's just phoning it in. He's playing with zero passion.

The MNF crew alluded to how much of a culture shock New York has been for him.

He's had two months to learn the new system and yet people are still making excuses for him "being new to the playbook." If it were a rookie they wouldn't be as generous.

This whole Favre fiasco is a travishamockery to the NFL.

/rant
I agree 100%..he looks like he is ticked off at himself for NOT taking the $20mil buyout from GB..he's one-n-done in NY..and the offense looks just like it did with Chad here, i.e., dink-n-dunk ..

not saying Favre has to throw 40 times/game, but they've got to use his play-action more... his mobility is something that should be used by NYJ as well..

but, when I watch the Jets, I think of the Billy Joel song Piano man - 'he's quick with a joke or to light up your smoke, but there's someplace that he'd rather be'.

i.e., back in Miss, moving his 4,500,000 acre farm counting his $20mil GB would have given him to be a 'spokesman' for them..

porr Jets fans...
Don't worry about us... It's a team game.Jets needed to find a long term answer at QB regardless, This is just a roll of the dice for 1 year.

I'd make that same move today - Unless you have a sure thing better QB for me right now that they should have grabbed?

Chad made decent coin and wasn't the Long term answer either - so $$$ wise, it wasn't that crazy a move..... They also needed to move on.

You want to cry for a team - How about the teams that spent high coin on the FA wr's or how about if the Jets drafted Leinart like a lot of people in NY wanted - or signed Shaub.... You know all the deals that cost a lot of money for a lot of time that didn't pan out....

In today's Game I'd never cry for a team that takes a 1 year flyer on a player with a 1 year contract - It's the team that lock up players for Many Millions for many years that I cry for when it doesn't work out....

Jets might have a young QB in Rhatliff - Maybe he learns a thing or two from Favre and wins the job next year??? We'll see, regardless, the Jets are and will still be in the market for a LT QB.

* YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH? As a Jets fan, my worry about Favre is way down on the list compared to my worry about Kris Jenkins - The defense looked good with him and revolves around a 3-4 NT - THAT guy got paid AND got years - Without him, I don't think it matters who the QB is. As Ditka said, I'd also put Vernon Gholston up there - though he is changing positions and has a long way to go... But, a one year deal for Favre doesn't really worry me much - that's fodder for the media and outsider fans who love "the storylines" cuz he's the "name guy......Enjoy.
Absolutely great posting - all this hype never came from Jet fans. A real Jet fan is not cocky or even confident....a true Jet fan is waiting for the bottom to fall out! I love he Favre gamble not just because he gives the Jets the best chance of winning this year - but it forced them to turn the page on Chad which was not working either. Give it a year or 2 with Favre and develop Ratliff or KC - if neither develop then we are in the same position anyway. I am more excited about young players like Cotchery, Revis, Rhodes, Lowery - I am most worried about Jenkins (he is the most important player on the team this side of the qB) and Gholston (ton of money to invest in potential). With the Brady injury there is a window and its too early to see if the Jets can take advantage of it - but I think if you poll true JEt fans you will be shocked at how few even think they will make the playoffs.
YUP... No matter how this is spun and played out like a soap opera for everyone else - For the Jets the expectations really never changed and the QB search goes on.You want to Cry for a fan base? You want to cry for a QB?

Lets talk about Marc Bulger - When you get down to it and sift through all this Favre BS, how many times better off would the Rams be if they took a 1 year Flyer on Brett Favre instead of giving TWENTY SEVEN MILLION GUARANTEED to Bulger???????????????????

Favre really doesn't set the Jets franchise back at all Win or lose.

You'll NEVER Hear that though - If the Jets dont win, it'll be all about some catastrophic mistake the Jets made and how Mangini still couldn't win with a HOF QB.

The Bulger story and even the Shaub story or many others in the NFL are SOOOO Much bigger than Favre...

But, as I said, I was never a huge Favre fan and never got caught up in his stuff, I guess this is my wake up call to Fave-Mania where Reality is put on the back burner and Favre becomes the story :thumbup:

 
Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.

 
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Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
Yep, he's miserable. look past all the smiles and head slaps... this is one unhappy QB.
 
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Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
Yep, he's miserable. look past all the smiles and head slaps... this is one unhappy QB.
On the bright side, I think he looked positively ho hum on his sixth touchdown pass today.
 
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Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
Yep, he's miserable. look past all the smiles and head slaps... this is one unhappy QB.
On the bright side, I think he looked positively ho hum on his sixth touchdown pass today.
And Rodgers hurt. And GB lost. The Packers are also unhappy he's a Jet.
 
Good for him and for Jets fans.The Cards are still the Cards apparently.
And you made a bad call saying Favre didn't want to be a jet, apparently.
Based on last week, I was right.Based on this week, I was wrong. :confused:
When it comes to the NFL, reality or FF.... if it were easy to predict, Vegas would not put lines on the games and I would blindly follow the FBG weekly rankings when I set my line ups. I'm just getting very lucky this year in FF... my guesses, and that's what they are, bottom line, have been working out nicely.
 
I get the feeling he is unhappy but because they are not winning. And fewer than 40 days in an offense is not a lot of time, considering most rookies have more time than that. He had 19 years in GB, of course he is not going to be as happy. But once they start winning (and I am pretty confident they will be more and more competitive moving forward) he will start to seem happier.
Like I said last week - he will be happy when he wins, just like most other players.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
omally said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Good for him and for Jets fans.The Cards are still the Cards apparently.
And you made a bad call saying Favre didn't want to be a jet, apparently.
Based on last week, I was right.Based on this week, I was wrong. :ptts:
Do you honestly think that your assertion is supportable in any way? How do you know what is in Favre's head?It is ridiculous, really.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
omally said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Good for him and for Jets fans.The Cards are still the Cards apparently.
And you made a bad call saying Favre didn't want to be a jet, apparently.
Based on last week, I was right.Based on this week, I was wrong. :rolleyes:
Do you honestly think that your assertion is supportable in any way? How do you know what is in Favre's head?It is ridiculous, really.
It was just an observation. Why are people taking it so personally?
 
Chase Stuart said:
Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
:wall:
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.

Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs.

Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.

Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.

 
Gotta say, Chase has a great sense of humor. I've never seen anyone fudge a questionable opinion as gracefully as he did here! :lmao:

 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
why the hostility?
 
Chase Stuart said:
Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
chase, I have much respect for you a) because you're a Jets fan and b) you know what you're talking about, but look at what you're saying. you're talking 3rd, 4th, 5th TD like it's something that happens every Sunday. If Favre wasn't into it he'd mail it in after the first turnover. He went out of his way to make Coles feel comfortable. 3 TDs! He threw 6 TDs (never di dthat in GB) after that mess on Monday night. He may not like NY or even being a Jet, but the guy TRULY loves to play.

 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
why the hostility?
SHARKS
 
After perusing some stats, I just realized he leads the league with 12 Tds through 4 games, not bad. That would make me smile :rolleyes:

 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
why the hostility?
No hostility....just one of many that realize the Packers would be better off with Favre than Rodgers and the rookies this season.
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
why the hostility?
No hostility....just one of many that realize the Packers would be better off with Favre than Rodgers and the rookies this season.
:rolleyes: OK. you just come off as angry.
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
why the hostility?
SHARKS
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Chase Stuart said:
Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
chase, I have much respect for you a) because you're a Jets fan and b) you know what you're talking about, but look at what you're saying. you're talking 3rd, 4th, 5th TD like it's something that happens every Sunday. If Favre wasn't into it he'd mail it in after the first turnover. He went out of his way to make Coles feel comfortable. 3 TDs! He threw 6 TDs (never di dthat in GB) after that mess on Monday night. He may not like NY or even being a Jet, but the guy TRULY loves to play.
ok, look who just caught up...I sense :rolleyes:

 
Chase Stuart said:
Favre looked miserable throwing his first, second, third and fourth touchdowns today. But on the fifth touchdown, I think he showed just a mild preference for not wanting to be a Jet.
chase, I have much respect for you a) because you're a Jets fan and b) you know what you're talking about, but look at what you're saying. you're talking 3rd, 4th, 5th TD like it's something that happens every Sunday. If Favre wasn't into it he'd mail it in after the first turnover. He went out of his way to make Coles feel comfortable. 3 TDs! He threw 6 TDs (never di dthat in GB) after that mess on Monday night. He may not like NY or even being a Jet, but the guy TRULY loves to play.
ok, look who just caught up...I sense :sarcasm:
A bit slow on the uptake on this one bred! :D
 
Andy Dufresne said:
omally said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Good for him and for Jets fans.The Cards are still the Cards apparently.
And you made a bad call saying Favre didn't want to be a jet, apparently.
Based on last week, I was right.Based on this week, I was wrong. :thumbup:
Do you honestly think that your assertion is supportable in any way? How do you know what is in Favre's head?It is ridiculous, really.
It was just an observation. Why are people taking it so personally?
Honestly Andy,It's because the original observation after a loss like that was Stupid and you're probably thought of as better than being a stupid poster and you took a dig at the Jets in the process.
 
It was just an observation. Why are people taking it so personally?
Honestly Andy,It's because the original observation after a loss like that was Stupid and you're probably thought of as better than being a stupid poster and you took a dig at the Jets in the process.
It's not stupid. The way he talked and his body language on the field led many people (as evidenced in this thread), not just me, to believe that he wasn't happy to be where he's at.I never said he didn't still have skills.I never took a dig at the Jets (unless you really think they have a chance at a Super Bowl title). But hey, like I said before, congratulations to Favre and Jets fans. I'm hope this drubbing of the Cardinals springboards your franchise to greater things. At least you're not the Patriots.
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs. Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
The Packers probably would have had a much better shot at the playoffs if Favre would have decided to come back all along and TT could have used 2 draft picks on something other than QB's this year. Which illustrates some of the negatives of keeping Favre. I am a Packer and a Favre fan and it is hard watching him play for another team. However, I can understand the Packers position. Favre has a lot of positives, but also a lot of negatives. Do his positives out weigh the negatives? I would tend to think so, but TT has been a good GM up to this point so I will give him the benefit of the doubt and not micro analysis Favre vs Rodgers on a week to week basis. I think it is funny that any given week one set of nay sayers says see I told you so based on the performances of Favre and Rodgers that week. I will reserve judgement until the end of the year.
 
It was just an observation. Why are people taking it so personally?
Honestly Andy,It's because the original observation after a loss like that was Stupid and you're probably thought of as better than being a stupid poster and you took a dig at the Jets in the process.
It's not stupid. The way he talked and his body language on the field led many people (as evidenced in this thread), not just me, to believe that he wasn't happy to be where he's at.I never said he didn't still have skills.I never took a dig at the Jets (unless you really think they have a chance at a Super Bowl title). But hey, like I said before, congratulations to Favre and Jets fans. I'm hope this drubbing of the Cardinals springboards your franchise to greater things. At least you're not the Patriots.
Starting this thread just fed into he Favremania machine. Probably the same one you cried over for years...... Of course people would jump on in, you knew that, You lobbed up a softball.And yeah, to me, saying a players "looks unhappy" and doesn't want to be there is just stupid after a MNF loss like that - If the guy was smiling and jumping around all happy, some other clown would start a thread about Favre being "too happy"..And no need for Congrats here - I knew each week would be a challenge and a process where ALL the new starters (1/3) would have to stay healthy and get acclimated.Did Frerrotte want to be a Viking yesterday?... "To me" Adrian Peterson was cursing the football gods that he got drafted by the Vikings yesterday. :tumbleweed:
 
Starting this thread just fed into he Favremania machine. Probably the same one you cried over for years...... Of course people would jump on in, you knew that, You lobbed up a softball.
It wouldn't have been a softball if it didn't have the backing of truth.
And yeah, to me, saying a players "looks unhappy" and doesn't want to be there is just stupid after a MNF loss like that - If the guy was smiling and jumping around all happy, some other clown would start a thread about Favre being "too happy"..
I said it before and I'll say it again - this thread wasn't just about the game last week. It was everything leading up to it. The game was just the cherry on top. And he had the same "Oh, crap" body language BEFORE the game got out of hand.
Did Frerrotte want to be a Viking yesterday?... "To me" Adrian Peterson was cursing the football gods that he got drafted by the Vikings yesterday. :thumbup:
No he didn't. And if AP feels that way, he doesn't let it show. But if he did, I wouldn't whine "Quit picking on my team!" if someone pointed it out.Jeeze louise.
 
Number one the Packers are happy that they have Rodgers. QBs get hurt in the NFL that is a face, Favre is just one in a billion and that is not Rodgers or the Packers fault.

Rodgers has what it takes to get this team into the playoffs.

Brett had an awesome day there is no way you can say different. This comparison will go on till one of these two leaves the NFL, better money is on Brett but one injury can end a career.

Favre was very happy today, but if this team doesn't keep it up he will get disgruntled and have to make a choice at the end of the year.
Wow!! The Packers could be happy and have Rodgers while still having Favre as the starter. What has Rodgers done that makes you think he can get this team into the playoffs? Favre would have given the Packers a better shot at the playoffs this year than Rodgers. Deal with it.
The Packers probably would have had a much better shot at the playoffs if Favre would have decided to come back all along and TT could have used 2 draft picks on something other than QB's this year. Which illustrates some of the negatives of keeping Favre. I am a Packer and a Favre fan and it is hard watching him play for another team. However, I can understand the Packers position. Favre has a lot of positives, but also a lot of negatives. Do his positives out weigh the negatives? I would tend to think so, but TT has been a good GM up to this point so I will give him the benefit of the doubt and not micro analysis Favre vs Rodgers on a week to week basis. I think it is funny that any given week one set of nay sayers says see I told you so based on the performances of Favre and Rodgers that week. I will reserve judgement until the end of the year.
:thumbup: I think it's Non GB and Jets fans that have more of an opinion and need to start these threads.

Win or Lose - I think both franchises did what they had to do...

Favre did kinda screw GB over..... But, it was time for them to move on and Rodgers looks GREAT.....

Hey, as a Jets fan I'd rather have Rodgers, no doubt.

But, for the Jets, it wasn't about Super Bowl or any guarantees - it was about signing a QB that can throw more than 15 yards And upgrading the position at least for the year... A NO BRAINER... Not a guarantee of anything though. A week by week process where you are hopefully a playoff caliber team with a playoff shot by the end of the year.

Jets fans and Packer fans unite!!!!

 
The body language of a 38 year old man who had flown across country to engage in a contact sport was less than peppy when playing on an ankle he painfully rolled over and sprained, an ankle that he has had chronic trouble with and was considering more surgery on, color me shocked.

BTW his Q.B. rating is higher this year than his lifetime average. On a painful ankle against a desperate team which was a preseason favorite, on the road, his Q.B. rating in that game exceeded his career average. I agree Favre is experiencing culture shock, but he is producing. If the jets need a scapegoat they could look elsewhere, like their other free agent acquisitions who are underperforming, their R.B. who seemsonly sporadically motivated, their petulent recieving star who has sulked since Favre's arrival, or their rookie phenom who apparently can't tackle or even lineup correctly.
Ummm...QB rating aside...to say he is producing after a game where his 2 INTs were very costly and a huge part of why they got so behind is a bit out there.Im not saying other people did not mess up in that game...but lets not just look at rating and act as if none of the loss was on Favre.
Because that was my argument. Gotcha.Reading comprehension may not be your best thing.
What was the point of all of the excuses about his ankle and the desperate team, and on the road and bringing up his QB rating in that game?
My point was that you do not judge an all time great by a single pedestrian game under negative circumstances as he just might come out and prove that game, a statistically decent effort under very adverse circumstances, to be the anomally.
 
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