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IMO - Brett Favre doesn't want to be a Jet. (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

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He's playing like a man defeated. He wanted another shot at the Super Bowl, which was why he wanted to play for the Vikings.

But now that he's playing for the Jets, and he knows they have no shot at a ring, he's just phoning it in. He's playing with zero passion.

The MNF crew alluded to how much of a culture shock New York has been for him.

He's had two months to learn the new system and yet people are still making excuses for him "being new to the playbook." If it were a rookie they wouldn't be as generous.

This whole Favre fiasco is a travishamockery to the NFL.

/rant

 
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Would've been a perfect fit in Tampa. Too bad the Bucs FO didn't really try.

Of course, a 2nd round pick is a lot...considering the Bucs made the playoffs last year.

 
I agree, but he wouldn't be the first past-it former great to have a miserable time on a new team - think Joe Namath as a Ram or Eric Dickerson as a Raider.

 
I wouldn't say he is phoning it in, but his body language is very telling right now. I said that weeks ago. He just doesn't look excited at all out there. Just like someone who has a hard time getting over a girl or boyfriend who dumped them and cannot understand why, I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.

 
I wouldn't say he is phoning it in, but his body language is very telling right now. I said that weeks ago. He just doesn't look excited at all out there. Just like someone who has a hard time getting over a girl or boyfriend who dumped them and cannot understand why, I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
That is a great description. And I know other greats have played for other teams at the end of their careers. But at least they looked like they were trying.

 
I'd like to think that he's trying and giving his all, but he does come off of maybe "going through the motions".

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
 
Jet Homer... not happy (so far) with how this turned out. I was excited at first, but after watching every play of the first three games, I have to agee - he's clearly not happy. About the only upside here is he's a fill in for one year before Ratliff beats out Clemens for the job.

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
A few things.Yeah...Im getting that feeling too...and they mentioned last night during the game that even in good plays, people just are not as excited about it as he is used to.2nd...maybe he should be astonished they moved on...or maybe he should have known at some point they would have to. Without getting into who was wrong and rehashing that, Im sure its also not easy watching Rodgers play that well (no matter what he says in public about him being happy for the team) and thinking it could be him doing well in GB.
 
I don't think it has so much to do with how Rodgers is playing but more so with the fact he wants to get to the Super Bowl, wanted to do it with the Packers, and realizes they still have a much better shot at getting there than the team he's on.

 
I get the feeling he is unhappy but because they are not winning. And fewer than 40 days in an offense is not a lot of time, considering most rookies have more time than that. He had 19 years in GB, of course he is not going to be as happy. But once they start winning (and I am pretty confident they will be more and more competitive moving forward) he will start to seem happier.

 
I don't think it has so much to do with how Rodgers is playing but more so with the fact he wants to get to the Super Bowl, wanted to do it with the Packers, and realizes they still have a much better shot at getting there than the team he's on.
I meant the team playing well too, not just Rodgers.Though, not sure he would have been that jealous of the pressure the D was putting on Rodgers Sunday night.
 
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I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
I tend to agree, but I also don't want to open this can of worms again.Regardless, I think Favre is still fuming about the Packers instead of focusing on the new team. I didn't see it, but read that Favre had more comments about Rodgers and the Packers when talking to ESPN's Ed Werder last night. The Packers seem to have moved on. Favre hasn't.
 
I get the feeling he is unhappy but because they are not winning. And fewer than 40 days in an offense is not a lot of time, considering most rookies have more time than that. He had 19 years in GB, of course he is not going to be as happy. But once they start winning (and I am pretty confident they will be more and more competitive moving forward) he will start to seem happier.
:unsure:I'm willing to give it some time. Favre is clearly still struggling with the playbook, there have been numerous plays where he was obviously not on the same page as his receivers. This will correct itself as the season moves on. Brady going down really blew the division wide open, and one could easily make the argument that the balance of power has quickly shifted and the NFC is the more dominant conference now. I don't think that after three games, a competitor like Favre is just "going through the motions" because he feels like he is on a lesser team than the one he left.Does it hurt that Green Bay had no trouble moving on without him? I'm sure, he's only human. But he's got a solid team around him with some nice weapons in the passing game, and I think the Packers success may only motivate him further to show what he can do with a different team (once he gets more in tune with the offense).
 
If he had listened to Roger Goodell and just sat there quietely in the offseason and waited for an injury, he could very well be under center for the Patriots right now. He only has himself to blame. What's even better is now getting to watch all of the "experts" choke on their predictions after slobbering over the Brett Favre Jets.

 
This next game is the big one. I don't know anyone that really expected the Jets to be anything other than 1-2 at the beginning of the season. There may have been a glimmer of hope after Brady went down, but the key to the season for them is being 2-2 going into the break.

Arizona

Bye

Cincinnati

at Oakland

Kansas_City

at Buffalo

St._Louis

With that schedule it is very possible that they end up at 6-3 before things start getting tough again. The Arizona game is huge for them and could really be the difference between having a chance at squeaking in the playoffs or not.

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
Hardly. But there were about a zillion threads where all of that was debated so I'm not sure we need to do all that over again.
 
true. I was wary of this coming to fruition after hearing him say things like, ¨If it doesn´t work out, it doesn´t work out¨ when he and mangini were being interviewed by francesa from training camp. he seemed more interested in answering francesa´s questions about hunting and fishing than about football.

I just don´t think he´s fully committed, like he´s approaching the games as practice. I´m sure he wants to win, but I don´t think he´s losing any sleep over it.

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
I tend to agree, but I also don't want to open this can of worms again.Regardless, I think Favre is still fuming about the Packers instead of focusing on the new team. I didn't see it, but read that Favre had more comments about Rodgers and the Packers when talking to ESPN's Ed Werder last night. The Packers seem to have moved on. Favre hasn't.
I didn't see the interview. Did Favre talk about the Packers unsolicited or was he asked about them? HUGE distinction there.
 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
Hardly. But there were about a zillion threads where all of that was debated so I'm not sure we need to do all that over again.
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If Favre's return was really "about football", then there's no reason for Favre to be anything but happy because he's playing for a team with a shot to win its division given the Pats' woes.

I think this was about ego and about not wanting to concede control over his career to Rodgers or Thompson. Favre looks like a guy who made a big bet while bluffing, and got called. I won't be breaking out the :shock: any time soon.

:wall: (jersey) , Brett.

 
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whole lotta psychoanalyzing going on here.

maybe favre was just pre-occupied that he forgot to set the tivo to record the season premiere of "heroes".

 
Anyone that has had to change jobs after being an expert at the previous job have a feeling what Favre is going through. It is no fun going from a genius to a dummy. He'll either figure it out or retire for good at the end of the season.

 
I get the feeling he is unhappy but because they are not winning. And fewer than 40 days in an offense is not a lot of time, considering most rookies have more time than that. He had 19 years in GB, of course he is not going to be as happy. But once they start winning (and I am pretty confident they will be more and more competitive moving forward) he will start to seem happier.
Agreed.If they were 3-0, Favre would be pretty happy right now.

Losing sucks.

 
Anyone that has had to change jobs after being an expert at the previous job have a feeling what Favre is going through. It is no fun going from a genius to a dummy. He'll either figure it out or retire for good at the end of the season.
You sure about that? :thumbup:
 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
I think that Favre actually thought that he made the Packers never considering the Packers made him. He thought he was bigger than the franchise and found out he was wrong. My thought about him throughout this off season was, who would want a QB that stated at his retirement that he could not handle the mental part of the game anymore. I think we are seeing that now.

 
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I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
I think that Favre actually thought that he made the Packers never considering the Packers made him. He thought he was bigger than the franchise and found out he was wrong. My thought about him throughout this off season was, who would want a GB that stated at his retirement that he could not handle the mental part of the game anymore. I think we are seeing that now.
Freudian slip?
 
This next game is the big one. I don't know anyone that really expected the Jets to be anything other than 1-2 at the beginning of the season. There may have been a glimmer of hope after Brady went down, but the key to the season for them is being 2-2 going into the break.Arizona ByeCincinnati at Oakland Kansas_City at Buffalo St._LouisWith that schedule it is very possible that they end up at 6-3 before things start getting tough again. The Arizona game is huge for them and could really be the difference between having a chance at squeaking in the playoffs or not.
hmm - is he a buy candidate with that schedule?
 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
:goodposting: :goodposting:
 
This next game is the big one. I don't know anyone that really expected the Jets to be anything other than 1-2 at the beginning of the season. There may have been a glimmer of hope after Brady went down, but the key to the season for them is being 2-2 going into the break.Arizona ByeCincinnati at Oakland Kansas_City at Buffalo St._LouisWith that schedule it is very possible that they end up at 6-3 before things start getting tough again. The Arizona game is huge for them and could really be the difference between having a chance at squeaking in the playoffs or not.
hmm - is he a buy candidate with that schedule?
:goodposting: - as a Jet fan my highest expectation was 2-2 going into the bye - huge game vs the Cards this week. If you need a QB Favre may be a very good buy low!
 
If he had listened to Roger Goodell and just sat there quietely in the offseason and waited for an injury, he could very well be under center for the Patriots right now. He only has himself to blame. What's even better is now getting to watch all of the "experts" choke on their predictions after slobbering over the Brett Favre Jets.
Almost as fun as watching those same "experts" now slobbering all over Rodgers... after they spent the pre-season detailing how the Packers just destroyed their season by going with Rodgers over Favre.
 
I think Favre:

(a) Is lonely. He doesn't know hardly anyone and doesn't fit in. It is natural to reminisce about places and times where you had friends on the staff and in the locker room.

(b) Has little confidence in the play calling. I mean he looked somewhat enthusiastic 1st game but last week against the Pats it went out of his eyes. Not (just) the losing thing, but not being allowed to try to win the way he believes they should. Three runing plays from inside the 3 yard line or something like that, no?

Of course, they were 4-12 for a reason.

BTW, I think the Packers nixed the Bucs trade as much as the Bucs not wanting it enough.

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
EXACTLY!The thing is, I don't think Favre really wanted to be a Packer again, he just wanted the Packers to want him. Big difference. Once they quit chasing him and said they were moving on, he got all hurt and insulted, his temper got up, and THAT caused him to want to play again.

So now he's in another season, his temper has waned, he thinking more clearly now, and he's not nearly so excited about playing as he was a few weeks ago. Too bad he pulled all that retire/unretire/retire/maybe/unretire BS this offseason. He can't pull the plug now in-season. If he does, he will get blasted in the press and even people who supported him this offseason will see him as his detactors do.

McCarthy said something in that last press conference about Favre that hinted at Favre's recent reluctance to put in his time in the film room and study sessions preparing for games. Imagine how much time it takes to learn a new system and then imagine putting an old dog into a new system and the old dog was already reluctant to put in study time under the old system he knew well.

I think he's got a long season ahead of him.

 
I think when he saw Brady go down in week 1 all he can think about is if he waited 4 weeks he could be leading the Pats to a Super Bowl.

:thumbup:

gb trading Favre after week 1.

 
People on the "Brett Favre is not happy" bandwagon are crazy for thinking that. The expectations are Favre are high and for a good reason. The guy can play and still play at a high level. I have been fortunate enough to see every Jets game this year, living in Wisconsin, and there have been a few glowing reasons why the Jets are 1-2 right now and none of the reasons involve Brett Favre.

People talk about Lane Kiffen being in trouble of losing his job... where is the outcry for getting Mangini out of New York. My god is the play calling horrific. Are the WR's able to get down the field at all? Last night I saw one of the few "vintage" Favre plays when he hit Coles late in the game for the long reception. Quick slants, screens, throwing it up when single coverage is present. I understand this is the Jets and the offense is run different however that was when Pennington/Clemens were in town.

I have seen discussions in here about how Favre does not know the playbook. Fine, he has ran the offense for a very short time but Mangini and the coaching have to account for what Favre brings to the table as well. He is not a dump off passer like Pennington... Favre can air it out. As much as Favre needs to learn the playbook, Mangini and staff need to learn Favre's capabilities and use them.

Lastly, along with the playcalling, where is the offensive line? Why is Favre taking 5 and 7 step drops for on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 5 and having to find the dump off because the line broke down? Thomas Jones is seeing the problem to because his rushing stats are not where they could be. I understand the defense was on the field a long time last night as well but they could not stop anything either.

The Brett Favre experiment is working but I think having Favre as the QB is exposing how crappy the Jets offense is and how bad the playcalling really is. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and even Philip Rivers would not be having much success in that offense.

 
I've got no sympathy for Favre. You could see this coming from a mile away once it was determined that he was going to end up on the Jets.

Not retiring was the worst decision he has made in his career, and he's going to regret it for the rest of his life.

 
I've got no sympathy for Favre. You could see this coming from a mile away once it was determined that he was going to end up on the Jets. Not retiring was the worst decision he has made in his career, and he's going to regret it for the rest of his life.
I wish I had the authority to delete stupid posts.
 
I've got no sympathy for Favre. You could see this coming from a mile away once it was determined that he was going to end up on the Jets.

Not retiring was the worst decision he has made in his career, and he's going to regret it for the rest of his life.
I wish I had the authority to delete stupid posts from people who don't agree with me.
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Um, yeah. Where is the substance in some of these posts? Very little substance and just a bunch of spewing going on. A decent debate is ruined here. But, boys will be boys and I have to continue being the man here.
 
Favre probably just wants a few changes to accomodate his greatness, like hiring Marriuchi as HC and re-writing the playbook. Has Favre made any trades yet? Moss may be available.

 
I think Favre has got to be just flabbergasted at how the Packers had no problem moving on without him. He has that jilted look about him. Seriously.
I agree. I think he badly wanted to remain with the Packers and was astonished at the team wanting no part of him.
Yeah, he so badly wanted to be on the Packers that when McCarthy asked him if he was committed to the Packers when he arrived in Green Bay, he didn't say yes. Favre got what he wished for.
I tend to agree, but I also don't want to open this can of worms again.Regardless, I think Favre is still fuming about the Packers instead of focusing on the new team. I didn't see it, but read that Favre had more comments about Rodgers and the Packers when talking to ESPN's Ed Werder last night. The Packers seem to have moved on. Favre hasn't.
I didn't see the interview. Did Favre talk about the Packers unsolicited or was he asked about them? HUGE distinction there.
Werder asked about the Packers winning their first two games. Favre replied: "Talk to me when they win 16"ETA: Some more here.

"Greg Jennings said he thinks Aaron has a stronger arm and throws the ball with more velocity than you,” Werder told Favre.

Favre responded: “I’m almost 40 years old. I got to stop that at some point. When I was his age, I could outthrow him.”

 
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