no...... best to use that draft spot on a high upside flyer.....the next ODB....shot in the dark....or backup that could produce should the starter go down, etc...
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- Thread starter renesauz
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QB:
8.04 D Tom Brady
RB:
2.07 D CJ Anderson
4.10 A Frank Gore
14.01 B Knile Davis
12.09 C Montee Ball
WR:
1.01 H Antonio Brown
5.03 A Desean Jackson
9.10 F Davante Adams
13.07 A Dorial Green Beckham
14.02 C Marvin Jones
16.01 B Allen Hurns
TE:
3.11 C Jimmy Graham
PK:
17.12 B Chandler Catanzaro
7.01 H
10.03 F
10.07 D
10.09 H
15.4 H (defense)
8.04 D Tom Brady
RB:
2.07 D CJ Anderson
4.10 A Frank Gore
14.01 B Knile Davis
12.09 C Montee Ball
WR:
1.01 H Antonio Brown
5.03 A Desean Jackson
9.10 F Davante Adams
13.07 A Dorial Green Beckham
14.02 C Marvin Jones
16.01 B Allen Hurns
TE:
3.11 C Jimmy Graham
PK:
17.12 B Chandler Catanzaro
7.01 H
10.03 F
10.07 D
10.09 H
15.4 H (defense)
Just to clarify a bit on this. While the voting was near unanimous, it wasn't based on the trade being awful. I wasn't involved in the discussion at all nor even aware of it until the past hour. (Unfortunately I've worked 5 of the last 6 nights and our ICU has been under-staffed and near or at capacity).
The trade calculator is an imperfect tool, but it works pretty well through the first 9 rounds. While it isn't a 100% hard fast rule, trades within the first 9 rounds will very rarely get approved that aren't within the 5%. IN this case, it was outside the 5%, and none of them could see a compelling reason to over-ride that for a couple reasons, one of which was that the later pick in question was in a later draft. Dropping back a couple picks to move to an earlier draft for a specific player at least displays a possible advantage to the guy losing value per Dodds, but doing so to a blind pick does not. The other reason is that it was too easy a fix to correct it: a swap of late round picks was easy to do (it could have been the 17/18th rounders). To be honest, I've asked other boards to include a swap of very late rounders to balance out similar deals in years past, and had I been a part of this for another board, that's where I would have encouraged the parties to go with it.
Using Dodds is simply an impartial tool, no reason to take it personally.
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I didn't take it personally. Just questioned the logic behind the rule.
I thought people could use common sense and their own judgment to realize a drop from 8.10 to 8.12 was meaningless compared to many of the other trades that are allowed.
I do, but not sure if I have enough ammo to make the deal for that pick.
I think closest is 11.03E
I think closest is 11.03E
Sinrman
Footballguy
Will definitely be considering both. I still have 12.02E // 14.02E // 15.11E // 16.02E // 17.11E // 18.02E
Ref/Bass
I like Stafford there(10.3f) but not sure we could work it out?
My sig on the forum is updated, is yours?
I like Stafford there(10.3f) but not sure we could work it out?
My sig on the forum is updated, is yours?
Sorry guys. I have been basically out of the loop this season so far. Driving 2200 miles cross country can sure take it out of you. I have been able to keep up in my drafts, but not the research I would prefer, and reading here, but haven't been able to provide input and feedback, which I think is one of our strong suits in a team competition like this.
I'm not a big fan of my team so far, but hopefully I'm in better shape then I thought:
Philip Rivers - 8.04E - Jumped a round too early here
Le'Veon Bell - 1.06D
CJ Spiller - 4.07D
Rashad Jennings - 9.06D
Andre Johnson - 2.12H
Anquan Boldin - 5.06D
Kendall Wright - 6.07D
Eric Decker - 7.06D
DeVante Parker - 8.07D
Jimmy Graham - 3.06D
Outside of Rivers and currently all 3 of my RB have a week 11 bye, I'm not too disappointed. I like my RB's once Bell returns. I think I have a combo of low floor WR and a couple high upside guys. I like Graham in Seattle more then some. I think Russell Wilson is a QB that will find a security blanket like Graham and feed him, especially in the redzone.
Thoughts? Comments? Where do I go from here?
11.06D
12.07D
13.06D
14.07D
15.06D
16.07D
17.06D
18.07D
I'm not a big fan of my team so far, but hopefully I'm in better shape then I thought:
Philip Rivers - 8.04E - Jumped a round too early here
Le'Veon Bell - 1.06D
CJ Spiller - 4.07D
Rashad Jennings - 9.06D
Andre Johnson - 2.12H
Anquan Boldin - 5.06D
Kendall Wright - 6.07D
Eric Decker - 7.06D
DeVante Parker - 8.07D
Jimmy Graham - 3.06D
Outside of Rivers and currently all 3 of my RB have a week 11 bye, I'm not too disappointed. I like my RB's once Bell returns. I think I have a combo of low floor WR and a couple high upside guys. I like Graham in Seattle more then some. I think Russell Wilson is a QB that will find a security blanket like Graham and feed him, especially in the redzone.
Thoughts? Comments? Where do I go from here?
11.06D
12.07D
13.06D
14.07D
15.06D
16.07D
17.06D
18.07D
Funchess is now going in early Round 10...a couple of people got a major bargain taking him later. If I want him, I will have to use my 9.09 in H to get him. Not sure that is the play (is it worth it? I guess he IS a WR1 on a team)...Sucks, because WR was my strongest suit (Stevie Johnson was my WR6), but I guess it is good I went so heavy, as I at least have depth in that position. So did just two FBGs lose Benjamin, or more?
BnB, since you follow the Panthers, please tell me about this Corey Brown fellow.
guess I am usually late to join the party on things like the Funchess situation.....not a number cruncher, but obviously people are giving a massive amount of credit to the recent events....are people really expecting that massive of an increase in production....I know fantasy is about talent and opportunity, and while the opportunity obviously improved, the talent is still the same.....does he have the talent to take advantage of the opportunity......it's almost like we are saying it is a "given" that he will now have more production.......some could argue that now seeing more coverage and/or better coverage may not be a good thing (fantasy wise) if you don't have the ability to elevate your game to that level.....long way of saying "maybe some guys are better off NOT being the lead dawg".....they may put up better stats when not the primary guy.....
I guess sometimes I just see drafters get in the mentality of oh god I gotta go get this guy cause the guy in front of him is hurt.....and I think it can be an overreaction sometimes.....and I think I also look at the WR position and even Te for that matter a little different than a RB or QB when things like this happen......I might raise my eyebrow a little more at those positions (QB/RB)....at this point I'm not real concerned about "missing out" on Funchess or having to waste a much higher pick on him than I would have had KB not been injured.....I think there is just as good a chance people will be happy they didn't "jump all over him" as there will be guys that think they hit the jackpot cause they were OTC when KB went down....but then again I haven't put a lot of study time into Funchess because until yesterday he was a late round guy.....
I guess sometimes I just see drafters get in the mentality of oh god I gotta go get this guy cause the guy in front of him is hurt.....and I think it can be an overreaction sometimes.....and I think I also look at the WR position and even Te for that matter a little different than a RB or QB when things like this happen......I might raise my eyebrow a little more at those positions (QB/RB)....at this point I'm not real concerned about "missing out" on Funchess or having to waste a much higher pick on him than I would have had KB not been injured.....I think there is just as good a chance people will be happy they didn't "jump all over him" as there will be guys that think they hit the jackpot cause they were OTC when KB went down....but then again I haven't put a lot of study time into Funchess because until yesterday he was a late round guy.....
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Here's the deal on Funchess. Cam has a tendency to throw high passes. Benjamin thrived with Cam last year. I wasn't high on him before the injury because I expected Corey Brown to the be the 2nd WR for a good chuck of the 2WR formations. Brown (Also know as Philly) is the speed guy.
Before injury:
WR1 - Benjamin
WR2 - 2/3 Brown / 1/3 Funchess
WR3 - Bersin/Ginn/Cotchery/Boykin
After injury
WR1 - Funchess
WR2 - 3/4 Brown / 1/4 Bersin
WR3 - Cotchery/Ginn/Boykin
The talk here before the injury was about keeping 7 WRs because how good they looked in camp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWGqXSdFVAI
Notice the announcer say Funchess picking up right where Benjamin left off? Kind of telling IMO.
Before injury:
WR1 - Benjamin
WR2 - 2/3 Brown / 1/3 Funchess
WR3 - Bersin/Ginn/Cotchery/Boykin
After injury
WR1 - Funchess
WR2 - 3/4 Brown / 1/4 Bersin
WR3 - Cotchery/Ginn/Boykin
The talk here before the injury was about keeping 7 WRs because how good they looked in camp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWGqXSdFVAI
Notice the announcer say Funchess picking up right where Benjamin left off? Kind of telling IMO.
My squad:
QB Romo
RB L.Miller, M.Ingram, J.Randle, L.Blount, A.Foster
WR O.Beckham, T.Hilton, R.White, L.Fitzgerald
TE M.Bennett, D.Allen
DEF Rams
15.08F
16.09D
16.10E
17.03E
18.10E
QB Romo
RB L.Miller, M.Ingram, J.Randle, L.Blount, A.Foster
WR O.Beckham, T.Hilton, R.White, L.Fitzgerald
TE M.Bennett, D.Allen
DEF Rams
15.08F
16.09D
16.10E
17.03E
18.10E
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I like this a lot and I think Romo offers some value this year.....really like your core at WR and Bennett should be top tier.....whats crazy is I may like your rb3/4 better than 1/2 right now....we'll see how it shakes out....nice job
qb -
rb - alfred morris
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
rb - alfred morris
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
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bass.... you say it sounds like they are pretty happy with what they got......any thoughts on if you think they would bring a reggie wayne or say a guy like greg Jennings or james jones or somebody if they get cut....also any thoughts on Cotchery...?....seems like a guy that could have gone from roster bubble to maybe serviceable veteran presence/wr2/starter type dude....
qb - eli
rb - alfred morris/vereen
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall/Decker
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
rb - alfred morris/vereen
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall/Decker
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
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any Jordy nelson damage in here
Nelson - HUD, SO, FS, SO, HUD, FS, Guru, SO
Adams - FS, FFLW, Guru, SO, SO, FBG, Zeal, Zeal
I took Arian Foster at 9.01H.
I felt pretty good about the rest of my roster so decided the potential reward was worth the risk at this point. Since I took WR in rounds 1 and 2 and traded away my 3rd round pick, I could really use an elite RB too.
I felt pretty good about the rest of my roster so decided the potential reward was worth the risk at this point. Since I took WR in rounds 1 and 2 and traded away my 3rd round pick, I could really use an elite RB too.
QB:
8.04 D Tom Brady
RB:
2.07 CJ Anderson
4.10 Frank Gore
10.07 Alfred Blue
14.01 Knile Davis
12.09 Montee Ball
WR:
1.01 Antonio Brown
5.03 Desean Jackson
7.01 Eddie Royal
9.10 Davante Adams
10.03 Terrance Williams
13.07 Dorial Green Beckham
14.02 Marvin Jones
16.01 Allen Hurns
TE:
3.11 Jimmy Graham
PK:
17.12 Chandler Catanzaro
10.09 H
15.4 H
two picks left....kind of in need of a 2nd QB not knowing outcome of deflategate......and need a DST.....Bass is tossing around taking a top DST with our 10th rounder in order to be strong at that position.....there will be some solid QB's there with that pick though.....if we go DST in the 10th we are looking at slim pickens at QB in the 15th....
I am trying to remember the rules about pre season moves/trades....IIRC there are no "add/drops" prior to the season which almost means you have to have a player at every position.....I believe intra and inter trades are allowed prior to the season but that these have to "match up" almost perfectly which can be difficult to do......I think in the past a strategy has been for like one or two guys to draft an extra PK in case a guy on a team that only has one PK goes down to injury and then a trade can be made or something.....
overall: pretty ok with where we are at.....drafted Adams prior to Jordy's injury so that worked out nice......was also able to snag Royal who IMO could be a weekly starter....I really liked being able to snag Adams/Williams at the 9/10 turn and while Brown is obviously our lead dawg I feel we have some depth behind him.....but in a lot of ways I'm not a huge fan of "depth" and I actually wouldn't mind maybe packaging a couple of these guys (including DJax who I am not real high on) for an upgrade into another tier at WR.....would rather have a couple of plug and play guys instead of doing the "who do we start this week" dance at WR....I might call on Bass to shop Adams and something to some Jordy owners or something....we are putting some faith in Gore as our RB2 and I hope that turns out....getting Blue (who seems like he is going to be the guy) helps a little.....I am very pessimistic about Foster coming back 100% and staying 100% when he does....would like to be little more top heavy than we are, but we might have the ammo to add a stud down the road...we are thinking about going SEA DST in the 10th and digging through the scraps at QB in the 15th to get us through a few weeks......I'm sniffing MM there....
8.04 D Tom Brady
RB:
2.07 CJ Anderson
4.10 Frank Gore
10.07 Alfred Blue
14.01 Knile Davis
12.09 Montee Ball
WR:
1.01 Antonio Brown
5.03 Desean Jackson
7.01 Eddie Royal
9.10 Davante Adams
10.03 Terrance Williams
13.07 Dorial Green Beckham
14.02 Marvin Jones
16.01 Allen Hurns
TE:
3.11 Jimmy Graham
PK:
17.12 Chandler Catanzaro
10.09 H
15.4 H
two picks left....kind of in need of a 2nd QB not knowing outcome of deflategate......and need a DST.....Bass is tossing around taking a top DST with our 10th rounder in order to be strong at that position.....there will be some solid QB's there with that pick though.....if we go DST in the 10th we are looking at slim pickens at QB in the 15th....
I am trying to remember the rules about pre season moves/trades....IIRC there are no "add/drops" prior to the season which almost means you have to have a player at every position.....I believe intra and inter trades are allowed prior to the season but that these have to "match up" almost perfectly which can be difficult to do......I think in the past a strategy has been for like one or two guys to draft an extra PK in case a guy on a team that only has one PK goes down to injury and then a trade can be made or something.....
overall: pretty ok with where we are at.....drafted Adams prior to Jordy's injury so that worked out nice......was also able to snag Royal who IMO could be a weekly starter....I really liked being able to snag Adams/Williams at the 9/10 turn and while Brown is obviously our lead dawg I feel we have some depth behind him.....but in a lot of ways I'm not a huge fan of "depth" and I actually wouldn't mind maybe packaging a couple of these guys (including DJax who I am not real high on) for an upgrade into another tier at WR.....would rather have a couple of plug and play guys instead of doing the "who do we start this week" dance at WR....I might call on Bass to shop Adams and something to some Jordy owners or something....we are putting some faith in Gore as our RB2 and I hope that turns out....getting Blue (who seems like he is going to be the guy) helps a little.....I am very pessimistic about Foster coming back 100% and staying 100% when he does....would like to be little more top heavy than we are, but we might have the ammo to add a stud down the road...we are thinking about going SEA DST in the 10th and digging through the scraps at QB in the 15th to get us through a few weeks......I'm sniffing MM there....
I think you can typically get a stud defense in the 15th. 10th is too early for Seattle imo.
As a team we need to make sure we have an extra kicker and extra late round QB.
Does anyone have that covered yet?
Does anyone have that covered yet?
I know your an IDP guru so let's hear your team defense thoughts.
Seattle looks head and shoulders above the rest with the talent returning. I know I thought that last year and got a middling defense, but they finished the year with 5 straight double digit point outings.
If any of the FBGs left are interested in our 10.7 and 15th for your 11/12 and 13/14 left us know and we'll swap picks with you.
Grabbed Doug Martin with my late 9th, and will fill out my team with either Corey Brown or Donte Moncrief...shame I lost Benjamin, I think I would have had a really nice squad.
Almost grabbed Rivers with my late 9th, but then I would have been stuck with Rivers, Cutler AND Flacco. And you don't get much value for QBs when you try to trade them.
Almost grabbed Rivers with my late 9th, but then I would have been stuck with Rivers, Cutler AND Flacco. And you don't get much value for QBs when you try to trade them.
Very little reason to have two let alone 3....
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Sinrman
Footballguy
I have about 3-4 more picks. I can try to remember to grab an extra one (have Gostkowski already).
well, they were not that productive last year and now lost their defensive coordinator and downgraded their #2 CB spot most likely.
I think Seattle, Buffalo, and St Louis probably all warrant top-3 consideration without much separation between them. After that, you can likely take a shot with the Texans, Broncos, Jets or Patriots and likely be in good shape.
Rams still available in F. I am on deck(14.10). Don't like my other options. Might pull the trigger on a second D.
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Did it! Immediately offered them up for trade!
It will be interesting to see what offers I get.
I also have a second QB in Flacco, so if something happened to a one QB team, I am not wedded to him at all.
this is good to know cause we may need him.....Bass thought Monte Ball was the guy in DEN to own (even over CJ) so I took him since we have CJ.....now Hillman looks like Tony Dorsett and has passed Ball on the depth chart......we have two picks left and only have Brady and no defense.....our 10th may need to go to Hillman (if available) and then our last pick (15th) to a DST.....so Flacco may be a nice option....may be hitting you up
with that said.....living in CO Hillman is generating some buzz at the moment and may be worthy of a pick for those still drafting.....
How things change. Last year I had to pull you off the ledge with your Ball love and begged for you to draft CJ and Hillman.
Of everyone who played in Denver last year Hillman did look the best IMO.
we did draft all three and dropped them all.....
admit the swing and miss on Ball last year....looking like yours this year (albeit at a cheaper price) but you never know....hopefully this is all for nothing except handcuff talk and CJ tears it up....
maybe in the future we just stay away from the DEN backfield....we look like Dwight Howard shooting free throws...
seriously tho Bass.....what would we have to do to get Flacco from Sweet Love.....he needs to be on speed dial....if we can swing it before our 10th comes up it would help us see which way to go.....I'd be cool with sliding him a WR if we could walk out with Flacco, Hillman, and DEN DST......
calling my shot right here boys.....even though I hate them, DEN DST may be the team to own this year they are going to be nasty....think they have 12 sacks through two albeit preseason games and probably should have had a couple more but there were penalties.....Wade Phillips dialing up blitzes on almost every play and they have the talent to make it work....
Old Milwaukee
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Justin Forsett, CJ Spiller, TJ Yeldon, Chris Polk
WR: Calvin Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, Martavis Bryant, Micheal Floyd, Kenny Stills ,Micheal Cratbree , Percy Harvin, Marvin Jones
TE: Travic Kelce, Charles Clay, Richard Rodgers
Def: Rams
K: Steve Hauschka
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Justin Forsett, CJ Spiller, TJ Yeldon, Chris Polk
WR: Calvin Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, Martavis Bryant, Micheal Floyd, Kenny Stills ,Micheal Cratbree , Percy Harvin, Marvin Jones
TE: Travic Kelce, Charles Clay, Richard Rodgers
Def: Rams
K: Steve Hauschka
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I'm close to having 3 picks on the clock at the same time. Tough to figure out best players available in each draft.
15.08F - OTC now
16.09D - On Deck
16.10E - 2 picks, then me
15.08F - OTC now
16.09D - On Deck
16.10E - 2 picks, then me
Final roster:
QB - Cutler, Flacco
RB - L. Miller, Hyde, Ivory, D. Martin, Blue
WR - A. Brown, J. Matthews,Benjamin, T. Smith, Decker, Stevie Johnson, Philly Brown
TE - Witten, Clay
DEF - Carolina
K - Dan Carpenter
Tried to make RB a strength at the end. Hopefully, two of these guys are every week starters. Brown and Matthews should be no-brainers as starters, and sprinkle in a combo of Smith, Decker, Stevie Johnson as WR3/Bye filler. OK with Cutler as my starter, but feeling a little queasy about having Witten as my TE, even though everyone wanted him where I drafted him. Hopefully I can get the team to the top tier but thinking this team is more destined for the second rung.
QB - Cutler, Flacco
RB - L. Miller, Hyde, Ivory, D. Martin, Blue
WR - A. Brown, J. Matthews,
TE - Witten, Clay
DEF - Carolina
K - Dan Carpenter
Tried to make RB a strength at the end. Hopefully, two of these guys are every week starters. Brown and Matthews should be no-brainers as starters, and sprinkle in a combo of Smith, Decker, Stevie Johnson as WR3/Bye filler. OK with Cutler as my starter, but feeling a little queasy about having Witten as my TE, even though everyone wanted him where I drafted him. Hopefully I can get the team to the top tier but thinking this team is more destined for the second rung.
qb - eli
rb - alfred morris/vereen/jennings
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall/Decker
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
fear the giant backfield
rb - alfred morris/vereen/jennings
wr - D. Thomas/Cooks/Edelman/Marshall/Decker
te - mar bennett
k -
dt -
fear the giant backfield
My squad:
QB Romo
RB L.Miller, M.Ingram, J.Randle, L.Blount, A.Foster, F.Jackson, C.Sims
WR O.Beckham, T.Hilton, R.White, L.Fitzgerald, D.Moncrief, C.Shorts
TE M.Bennett, D.Allen
PK Crosby
DEF Rams
QB Romo
RB L.Miller, M.Ingram, J.Randle, L.Blount, A.Foster, F.Jackson, C.Sims
WR O.Beckham, T.Hilton, R.White, L.Fitzgerald, D.Moncrief, C.Shorts
TE M.Bennett, D.Allen
PK Crosby
DEF Rams
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as predicted
10.08 Cyguy84 (FS 5H) Stafford, Matthew DET QB 1:48:19 p.m. 10.09 StinkinRef/BassNBrew(FBG 12B) Rivers, Philip SDC QB 5:56:44 p.m. Last year we got Wilson somewhere in round 12-14 and moved Luck for Hilton around week 5 which was a huge coup for us as he was WR4 during the time period we started him.
10.08 Cyguy84 (FS 5H) Stafford, Matthew DET QB 1:48:19 p.m. 10.09 StinkinRef/BassNBrew(FBG 12B) Rivers, Philip SDC QB 5:56:44 p.m. Last year we got Wilson somewhere in round 12-14 and moved Luck for Hilton around week 5 which was a huge coup for us as he was WR4 during the time period we started him.
