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Interesting political quiz ... whether its accurate or not (1 Viewer)

Disclaimer: It should be MUCH easier to get citizenship in this country. Essentially a background check (paid for by the person) for people over X age, pass a fairly easy citizenship test (something that would take 50 or so hours of study for someone who had no knowledge of the US), then a "trial" period of a few years where someone is considered a "citizen" as far as benefits go but if they #### up, it's stripped and they're deported.
Great point and something I meant to bring up. The process to become a legal citizen should be much easier. That alone would reduce the numbers of undocumented immigrants.

 
A case by case basis is impossible, there needs to be a firm policy in place. Case by case would work if the issue were a few hundred or even a few thousand, the numbers have ballooned well beyond that.

1) 1 year to to pass some sort of mediocre "you're making an effort" test, 2 years to speak effectively - I'm not saying an English major, just a healthy grasp of the language.

2) Everyone can leave, if they want to split up that's their choice. Coming here illegally, as you may have noticed doesn't earn my sympathy.

3) This can be on a case by case as these are the outliers.

4) Yes.
This is pretty stupid, even by your standards.

 
80% Rand Paul

Which is basically what I expected. He isn't a strong candidate at the personal level, but he is clearly the most aligned with my viewpoint.

I had uncomfortably high percentages for some other candidates, on both sides of the aisle, who I would never want to be associated with.

 
Rand Paul #1 with Bernie and Hillary a relatively close 2-3. Not really a surprise, always score very Libertarian on these things. Gary Johnson '16!!

Highest R other than Rand was Bush at like 55%. Rest of the GOP field lagging in the 20-40% range.

 
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82% Huckabee

78% Cruz

77% Santorum

75% Sanders

75% Paul

75% Trump

75% Rubio

Labelled as a centrist. Might vote for Paul or Rubio, but none of the rest.

 
A case by case basis is impossible, there needs to be a firm policy in place. Case by case would work if the issue were a few hundred or even a few thousand, the numbers have ballooned well beyond that.

1) 1 year to to pass some sort of mediocre "you're making an effort" test, 2 years to speak effectively - I'm not saying an English major, just a healthy grasp of the language.

2) Everyone can leave, if they want to split up that's their choice. Coming here illegally, as you may have noticed doesn't earn my sympathy.

3) This can be on a case by case as these are the outliers.

4) Yes.
The question refers to immigrants. You're conflating the meaning with undocumented immigrants. You would split up families between those who could learn English and those who can't? What would be your minimum age? 5? 15? 18? Would you advocate periodic retesting? Someone could learn just enough to pass a basic test then never speak it. Maybe they're not so proficient 8 years later. Maybe we can have immigration do surprise "stop & speak English" test on the streets if they hear a group of students speaking hindi.

BTW, all of this is a great poor example of "less government intrusion".

 
A case by case basis is impossible, there needs to be a firm policy in place. Case by case would work if the issue were a few hundred or even a few thousand, the numbers have ballooned well beyond that.

1) 1 year to to pass some sort of mediocre "you're making an effort" test, 2 years to speak effectively - I'm not saying an English major, just a healthy grasp of the language.

2) Everyone can leave, if they want to split up that's their choice. Coming here illegally, as you may have noticed doesn't earn my sympathy.

3) This can be on a case by case as these are the outliers.

4) Yes.
The question refers to immigrants. You're conflating the meaning with undocumented immigrants. You would split up families between those who could learn English and those who can't? What would be your minimum age? 5? 15? 18? Would you advocate periodic retesting? Someone could learn just enough to pass a basic test then never speak it. Maybe they're not so proficient 8 years later. Maybe we can have immigration do surprise "stop & speak English" test on the streets if they hear a group of students speaking hindi.

BTW, all of this is a great poor example of "less government intrusion".
This is what I believe. There is a natural consequence to not speaking English in America. That being that your earning potential is significantly lower on average. I loosely equate mandating a specific language be spoken to mandating a specific religion be followed.

 
82% Huckabee

78% Cruz

77% Santorum

75% Sanders

75% Paul

75% Trump

75% Rubio

Labelled as a centrist. Might vote for Paul or Rubio, but none of the rest.
And the only reason you get "centrist" is because Sanders is in there, your top choices are all the very furthest right guys.

 
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82% Huckabee

78% Cruz

77% Santorum

75% Sanders

75% Paul

75% Trump

75% Rubio

Labelled as a centrist. Might vote for Paul or Rubio, but none of the rest.
And the only reason you get "centrist" is because Sanders is in there, your top choices are all the very furthest right guys.
Does that say more about Sanders or me? :shrug:
Well to answer that we'd have to know what you agreed with Sanders on. Given that list of theocrats it would be pretty interesting to know,

 
82% Huckabee

78% Cruz

77% Santorum

75% Sanders

75% Paul

75% Trump

75% Rubio

Labelled as a centrist. Might vote for Paul or Rubio, but none of the rest.
And the only reason you get "centrist" is because Sanders is in there, your top choices are all the very furthest right guys.
Does that say more about Sanders or me? :shrug:
Well to answer that we'd have to know what you agreed with Sanders on. Given that list of theocrats it would be pretty interesting to know,
Patriot Act and the NSA were on there, I think. I'll see if I can find it all tomorrow.

 
A case by case basis is impossible, there needs to be a firm policy in place. Case by case would work if the issue were a few hundred or even a few thousand, the numbers have ballooned well beyond that.

1) 1 year to to pass some sort of mediocre "you're making an effort" test, 2 years to speak effectively - I'm not saying an English major, just a healthy grasp of the language.

2) Everyone can leave, if they want to split up that's their choice. Coming here illegally, as you may have noticed doesn't earn my sympathy.

3) This can be on a case by case as these are the outliers.

4) Yes.
This is pretty stupid, even by your standards.
No need to be a ######## for no reason.
 
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Interesting…Trump must be an isolationist against drones, money to Isreal, declaring war on ISIS, and butt heads with the Russians.

Basically I side with Trump on foreign policy and immigration.

I side with Biden on social issues.

I side with Hillary 50% of the time, guess that makes sense with her changing positions constantly.

Overall it's pretty much a coin flip between Sanders, Paul, Carly, Trump, and Carson.

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe).

Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
They are both categorically crazy. And again, Sanders has been a part of the Washington establishment for 25 years. He is very establishment, as is Trump for his decades of greasing politician palms. Americans are too dumb to realize any of this I guess, so they think some of these guys are "anti-establishment." I think Carson might be that guy, the rest are certainly not what they seem. Maybe Sanders and Trump are less establishment, but it's not the wide gap people think. Both have been so close to the spigot for 25+ years, it's hard to imagine they didn't get wet.

 
Ted Cruz 83%

Marco Rubio 81%

Rand Paul 81%

I still don't like these questions because frankly almost all of them require "my own answer" so the result is off anyway. Meh. Biden is my highest dem at 66% In fact everyone except Webb was over 50%.

Politics may have passed me by.
You are not a Cruz Republican. The test failed you miserably.
Well apparantly, according to some, I'm not a republican anymore.

Which frankly, for the funniness of the post and the ludicrous nature of the poster, might be right. I abhor the GOP in its current form. I was watching twitter last night as the Paul Ryan stuff was going on and the so called conservatives were making me want to punch something. So many of them are so blinded by their own misguided rage that they can't even see when they are played by Harry Reid not to mention their own myopic worthless worldviews of power and only power.

The GOP needs to break apart and destroy itself. It's not a cohesive party anymore. It was for a long time but it isn't anymore. There is no leadership, there is no workable platform that can actually govern a nation in the 21st century, there is a gang that has too much power that hasn't opened a science book in their entire lives, they use religion as a sword and shield when it is supposed to be neither and they stand for not standing for anything except getting a rise out of the most vengeful groups in the party that I have no desire to be governed by.

There is just way too much us against them in the GOP and there isn't anything of value that it's based off of. You have evangellical Christians decrying social programs that help the poor, you have war hawks calling for the bombardment of half the planet with no thought to the long term consequences of such recklessness, you have anti-abortionists clouding the entirety of their ability to govern on one rather insignificant issue that is a symptom of a larger problem that government creates to begin with when it tries to legislate for a specific outcome and whole host of other problems within the party that makes it functionally useless. Half of these morons wouldn't know what to do with themselves if there was no almight evil Barack Obama to hate on. Frankly, most of them are the fricken Joker from Dark Knight at this point - they are so rabid that they wouldn't know what to do if they ever actually caught the car they were chasing after.

The sad thing for me is that I despise the Democratic Party just as much. And there is no chance that I vote for them to have more national power and thereby have more state and local money and power to use to influence lower levels of government.

There is no chance I ever vote for Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Rand Paul, or the current version of Mike Huckabee that needs to be sent off to his own Elba Island at this point to yell at the trees. I'd be ok voting for JEB Bush and might even be ok voting for Marco Rubio. Chris Christie betrayed the very nature of what got him to be so popular in my eyes and should have run against Romney 4 years ago and pushed his chips in but he didn't and in failing to do that he ended up ruining the work he was doing in my state. And then there is John Kasich. A governor from an important state that actually knows how to govern. I don't agree with him on everything and probably never will. But he actually can govern and knows how to act like an adult - something that is clearly lacking in this GOP. I would vote for John Kasich in a heartbeat and hope I get the chance to. JEB and Marco need to show me more but they are better than Hillary or whoever gets the Dem nomination. But in all of that I am absolutely a man without a party at this point. And I'm someone who the GOP should have never lost.
The republicans hold most of the governorships in the US. They run congress. They stand a pretty good chance of winning the white house in 2016. I can't imagine how strong they would be if they were actually a cohesive party with leadership.

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
They are both categorically crazy. And again, Sanders has been a part of the Washington establishment for 25 years. He is very establishment, as is Trump for his decades of greasing politician palms. Americans are too dumb to realize any of this I guess, so they think some of these guys are "anti-establishment." I think Carson might be that guy, the rest are certainly not what they seem. Maybe Sanders and Trump are less establishment, but it's not the wide gap people think. Both have been so close to the spigot for 25+ years, it's hard to imagine they didn't get wet.
Well no I am not dumb. I do my homework. If you think Bernie is an establishment candidate you need to do yours. And if you think Carson belongs anywhere near the WH I'd be careful calling other people's intellect into question. Unless you dig theocracy and willful ignorance then by all means rock on.

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
They are both categorically crazy. And again, Sanders has been a part of the Washington establishment for 25 years. He is very establishment, as is Trump for his decades of greasing politician palms. Americans are too dumb to realize any of this I guess, so they think some of these guys are "anti-establishment." I think Carson might be that guy, the rest are certainly not what they seem. Maybe Sanders and Trump are less establishment, but it's not the wide gap people think. Both have been so close to the spigot for 25+ years, it's hard to imagine they didn't get wet.
Well no I am not dumb. I do my homework. If you think Bernie is an establishment candidate you need to do yours. And if you think Carson belongs anywhere near the WH I'd be careful calling other people's intellect into question. Unless you dig theocracy and willful ignorance then by all means rock on.
I said Carson is the anti-establishment candidate, not that he belongs in the White House. Not sure what the hell you are even taking about. Have a few morning Martinis today?

 
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
They are quite similar as populists proposing a lot of nonsense.

 
Which (if any) of the candidates are banging the term limits drum? That's another issue is like to see someone (Bernie?) take on - he's been around a long time so that may be a losing issue for him.

 
Which (if any) of the candidates are banging the term limits drum? That's another issue is like to see someone (Bernie?) take on - he's been around a long time so that may be a losing issue for him.
From a candidate's "official" platform:

We have all seen the consequence of long-term incumbencies. Career politicians seem to care more about their career than what is best for their country. We have seen politicians grow more and more out-of-touch with each successive term.

It is time to put an end to the profession of "career politician," and impose limits on how many times a member is allowed to seek re-election. As a Senator, I introduced legislation that would limit the amount of time a member of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate may serve.

As President, I will continue to support term limits in the hopes of ensuring that your elected officials act in direct representation of you and your needs.
 
This must support the idea that the two parties really aren't all that different when I match Trump 79% and Bernie Sanders 70%. Labelled a centrist, but the nin highest matching candidates are Republicans.

 
NCCommish said:
Doctor Detroit said:
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
It appears that they share a lot of the same stances on foreign policy and social issues.

 
NCCommish said:
Doctor Detroit said:
86% Biden

78% Bernie

73% Bush (that sounds about right)

71% Clinton

66% Trump

63% Carson

54% Rubio
an interesting mix.
I took it again and this time changed my immigration answers some. I am for ID cards to vote for sure, I don't understand why people can't have their ####### ID card on them (that's a military thing maybe). Biden 82%

Bernie 76%

Carson 70% :bag:

Hillary 70%

Rubio 68%

Trump 66%

Jeb 65%

Bottom three remained constant Santorum, Cruz, Huckabee.

I guess I'm going to have to look into Sanders more. I think he's more Trump than William Jefferson Clinton who would score 100% with me, but the choices are pretty bad this election.

Of the GOP candidates I like Rubio best from what I've seen, but I don't know enough about him. Hard to think I'd vote for a Republican for President, but I will if the right candidate is there. Although I blast the right wingers here more than I blast the lefties, I do have a history of getting under the skin of both. There are just so many more right-wing nuts around here IMO, so it's a target-rich environment. :)
Bernie is not Trump. Even a cursory glance reveals that. The only thing they share is that the establishment can't figure out why they are popular.
It appears that they share a lot of the same stances on foreign policy and social issues.
In some ways Trump is pretty liberal. He is for expanding Medicare. He says he doesn't like the trade deals we've signed and he was prochoice until very recently, like when he decided to run.

 

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