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So spend $3 on the app for Iphone and probably no more than $10 on Ipad when that app comes out and around $100 for the box, correct?How much will one need to throw down for decent pc? Do you have all your equipment in one place (including DVD player,etc.) or spread out in your house?
Hmm - I dont have a computer holding the video. Its on a NAS device which I access through the WDTV live. Works great without the need to stream through a computer. I suppose I could install the software on the computer to access the NAS that way, but then I would have to leave the computer on all the time which is the reason I set it up this way in the first place.I was thinking I could access the NAS directly from the touch, but doesnt sound like it.
the wdtv live box is essentially a media console you attach to your tv. You can plug in usb drives, or connect to network attached storage or computers to play movies, pics or audio on the tv. Fantastic device but nothing to do with the iphone or touch. If you want to play movies on the iphone or touch it sounds like you just need the app and a computer hosting the movies, but not wdtv live.
Yep, you're correct and I apologize if I wasn't clear. WDTV is what I use to watch all our stuff on our tv off my server, nothing to do with ipod/ipad.You do need to have the computer on to stream video to your touch/ipad. I'm not sure if there's a way to hack your NAS to run the server program but you might check the Air Video forums.
I know I use Orb and just go to mycast.orb and stream from there for free, not sure if it'll work for IPAD
It's easy to nitpick the first to do stuff. Neil Armstrong probably had a bit of a rough landing. Apple takes it in stride. Fangirls don't.
Yes, absolutely.
Lots of good irony in here. I won't bother stooping to a response. Glad you didn't buy one.Step 1: Drama Queen/Attention Whore starts thread (and others related)Step 2: Drama Queen/Attention Whore gets attentionStep 3: Drama Queen/Attention Whore complains about the attention.Is this the typical Otis thread? I don’t know.Anyway, during my vacation (the cause was either me telling Otis that he’s full of poopie or me telling Anakin that his salivary glands are overactive I don’t know which) I decided to actually try this out for myself. I got a 32G, the 64s were sold out. The Apple store goon said they had a lot of 32s and the Best Buy near me also had “plenty”. Not sure why these aren’t sold out considering the hype, TBH. This review is not for argument's sake. It's for people that want an objective opinion on the thing, coming from an Apple owner/Apple fangirl basher. Take that for what it's worth. Also, while I think I know my way around computers, they aren't my life and I'm sure I missed some tricks that may make the iPad more useful for what I want, and I'm sure some computer geeks here (no offense) will point out where I went wrong, and if I'm lucky I can get a few servings of Otis homecooked condescension. I won't fancy myself as a technology geek like some people just because I NEED to have the new gadget, then only use 15% of it. I buy things that are useful to me.Speed – for people like me speed isn’t an issue unless something is too slow. I never say “holy cow! This thing is fast!” probably because I expect things to work fast anyway, right or wrong. So the Ipad here doesn’t get a chance to get the credit it is due here because for people like me, we take speed for granted. I’ll say the speed on this machine is wonderful and I have never had a problem with it at all.Grade: A+Screen – Inside? It’s beautiful. You can’t take it outside. I have a rough time seeing anything on this thing outside. Is it because I live where the sun shines? I guess so. Maybe Cupertino is a giant cavern? Any background reflected light washes out the screen in a horrible glare. Of course, this is how it is with everything I’ve used (never use a kindle). My bet is most of the people that use this will be inside anyway.Grade: A-Battery – As good as it gets. Fangirls here aren’t bull####ting when they say they can watch movies for 8 hours or such, but I don’t know why you’d do that.Grade: A+UI – I own an iPhone. I own a touch. I use a Mac irregularly but still use it, and don’t have issue with the OS like some people raised on PCs. Even if I didn’t own a single Apple product, I think it would be easy to pick up. The thing that IMO separates this from a PC is that it’s actually fun to use, instead of a task. People say no multitasking is an issue, it’s not. The only thing that bothers me is that it reloads safari if I have multiple pages up. This can easily be remedied if I can just have another web browser instead…Grade: APrograms – I find it annoying but not surprising (I do own other Apple products) that this is so proprietary. I don’t want to use Safari. I don’t care if people think it’s better than Chrome. I want to use Chrome. I don’t want to use iTunes for media management. Why can’t I just drag and drop onto my harddrive? Cmon! I don’t want to use Apple’s programs. I don’t care if their stuff better than Word (it’s not). I want to use my Word/Excel. Pages doesn’t do the #### I want it to do. I can’t find where I can create a custom doc theme in Pages, that's annoying. I also find it annoying that I have to buy all kinds of programs all over again. This makes the iPad seem like merely a revenue window. I guess people that want to be productive on it are being punished in some way. That being said, Flight Control is really a fun game. 250,000 apps? Who gives a ####? I want MY programs. Why the strict parameters?Grade: D+Peripherals and other stuff – No USB. Someone says USBs are dying out? OK. Are they dying out TOMORROW? No? Then no reason to not hook one up and leave it off of the next gen. No camera. That’s stupid, but the Apple store goon said there was an adapter coming out shortly. Speakers aren’t very good, but I guess like the screen, it’s as good as it gets in a machine like this. The keyboard is easy to type on and you don’t need to buy the accessory. Some people complain about this. Maybe I'm just used to it since I own an iPhone. It's easy to pick up.Grade: CHarddrive – Why so small? Bad Genes? Can’t we put a half T in ####ers this size yet? Will it overheat or something? I don’t understand why we can’t just load up on memory. I’m sure other machines like it will have equally bad memory, that’s no excuse. Is Apple a leading tech company or not? Don't make me report to a server to get my data. I want it in my hand. And if you aren't going to let me just plug an external HD into the machine like a netbook would let me do, then make your harddrive bigger. No excuse.Grade: FSummary: It’s a fun machine, if you want to simplify what its tasks are. Use it as an audio jukebox, but the speakers suck, so use this with headphones. You can’t use it as an all purpose jukebox, because the harddrive is too small. It’s a great e-picture frame, (proprietary) game player and web browsing device. It’s really pretty! This doesn’t “Just work” like one might expect it to. Beware the hidden costs of purchasing applications and accessories for this machine. If you are OK with hidden costs, lack of harddrive, and that you are forced to use Apple's programs, then it's a pretty sweet device.Overall Grade: C+Verdict - This is a buy for the following:1) People that own everything2) Apple fangirls3) People that don’t need a computer for productivity, but for simplified uses like movies, music, games, email4) People that are normally defeated when using more complex machines, like a netbook. It would be a nice gift for mom.
Didn't get it, never have.
Great, honest review. Thanks!Step 1: Drama Queen/Attention Whore starts thread (and others related)Step 2: Drama Queen/Attention Whore gets attentionStep 3: Drama Queen/Attention Whore complains about the attention.Is this the typical Otis thread? I don’t know.Anyway, during my vacation (the cause was either me telling Otis that he’s full of poopie or me telling Anakin that his salivary glands are overactive I don’t know which) I decided to actually try this out for myself. I got a 32G, the 64s were sold out. The Apple store goon said they had a lot of 32s and the Best Buy near me also had “plenty”. Not sure why these aren’t sold out considering the hype, TBH. This review is not for argument's sake. It's for people that want an objective opinion on the thing, coming from an Apple owner/Apple fangirl basher. Take that for what it's worth. Also, while I think I know my way around computers, they aren't my life and I'm sure I missed some tricks that may make the iPad more useful for what I want, and I'm sure some computer geeks here (no offense) will point out where I went wrong, and if I'm lucky I can get a few servings of Otis homecooked condescension. I won't fancy myself as a technology geek like some people just because I NEED to have the new gadget, then only use 15% of it. I buy things that are useful to me.Speed – for people like me speed isn’t an issue unless something is too slow. I never say “holy cow! This thing is fast!” probably because I expect things to work fast anyway, right or wrong. So the Ipad here doesn’t get a chance to get the credit it is due here because for people like me, we take speed for granted. I’ll say the speed on this machine is wonderful and I have never had a problem with it at all.Grade: A+Screen – Inside? It’s beautiful. You can’t take it outside. I have a rough time seeing anything on this thing outside. Is it because I live where the sun shines? I guess so. Maybe Cupertino is a giant cavern? Any background reflected light washes out the screen in a horrible glare. Of course, this is how it is with everything I’ve used (never use a kindle). My bet is most of the people that use this will be inside anyway.Grade: A-Battery – As good as it gets. Fangirls here aren’t bull####ting when they say they can watch movies for 8 hours or such, but I don’t know why you’d do that.Grade: A+UI – I own an iPhone. I own a touch. I use a Mac irregularly but still use it, and don’t have issue with the OS like some people raised on PCs. Even if I didn’t own a single Apple product, I think it would be easy to pick up. The thing that IMO separates this from a PC is that it’s actually fun to use, instead of a task. People say no multitasking is an issue, it’s not. The only thing that bothers me is that it reloads safari if I have multiple pages up. This can easily be remedied if I can just have another web browser instead…Grade: APrograms – I find it annoying but not surprising (I do own other Apple products) that this is so proprietary. I don’t want to use Safari. I don’t care if people think it’s better than Chrome. I want to use Chrome. I don’t want to use iTunes for media management. Why can’t I just drag and drop onto my harddrive? Cmon! I don’t want to use Apple’s programs. I don’t care if their stuff better than Word (it’s not). I want to use my Word/Excel. Pages doesn’t do the #### I want it to do. I can’t find where I can create a custom doc theme in Pages, that's annoying. I also find it annoying that I have to buy all kinds of programs all over again. This makes the iPad seem like merely a revenue window. I guess people that want to be productive on it are being punished in some way. That being said, Flight Control is really a fun game. 250,000 apps? Who gives a ####? I want MY programs. Why the strict parameters?Grade: D+Peripherals and other stuff – No USB. Someone says USBs are dying out? OK. Are they dying out TOMORROW? No? Then no reason to not hook one up and leave it off of the next gen. No camera. That’s stupid, but the Apple store goon said there was an adapter coming out shortly. Speakers aren’t very good, but I guess like the screen, it’s as good as it gets in a machine like this. The keyboard is easy to type on and you don’t need to buy the accessory. Some people complain about this. Maybe I'm just used to it since I own an iPhone. It's easy to pick up.Grade: CHarddrive – Why so small? Bad Genes? Can’t we put a half T in ####ers this size yet? Will it overheat or something? I don’t understand why we can’t just load up on memory. I’m sure other machines like it will have equally bad memory, that’s no excuse. Is Apple a leading tech company or not? Don't make me report to a server to get my data. I want it in my hand. And if you aren't going to let me just plug an external HD into the machine like a netbook would let me do, then make your harddrive bigger. No excuse.Grade: FSummary: It’s a fun machine, if you want to simplify what its tasks are. Use it as an audio jukebox, but the speakers suck, so use this with headphones. You can’t use it as an all purpose jukebox, because the harddrive is too small. It’s a great e-picture frame, (proprietary) game player and web browsing device. It’s really pretty! This doesn’t “Just work” like one might expect it to. Beware the hidden costs of purchasing applications and accessories for this machine. If you are OK with hidden costs, lack of harddrive, and that you are forced to use Apple's programs, then it's a pretty sweet device.Overall Grade: C+Verdict - This is a buy for the following:1) People that own everything2) Apple fangirls3) People that don’t need a computer for productivity, but for simplified uses like movies, music, games, email4) People that are normally defeated when using more complex machines, like a netbook. It would be a nice gift for mom.edit - I do want to say that I'm thankful for Apple, they make good products. And I'm thankful for this machine, without it other companies wouldn't try to improve upon it. And I am thankful for the fangirls that guy it no matter what. Without them, there may not be a second gen machine, and no improvements either. All of these things make the consumer ultimately the big winner here. :( It's easy to nitpick the first to do stuff. Neil Armstrong probably had a bit of a rough landing. Apple takes it in stride. Fangirls don't.
Portable DVD Drive - could be huge for parentsPortable Media Storage (HDD) - probably couldn't read it though (with movies, pics, etc) there are HDD the size of Iphones nowCamera
Just go ahead and report me again
Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
Why?
I guess I get the portable DVD drive. But then again why wouldn't you just download movies to the device itself? Doesn't that solve that one?Also re: HDD, why do you need this? I just wirelessly beam whatever files onto this thing I want to at home from my main HD. I don't see this one.As for camera, that's why they have the camera adapter no?I actually just thought of one reason I'd like to have a USB -- for moving files to/from a thumb drive for work. Then again, I think someone here posted a bluetooth thumbdrive product somewhere? Looked really interesting, might pick one up. But yeah, I can see this being one reason I could miss a USB. The others don't make a whole lot of sense to me.
The most condescending person in the FFA is complaining about people taking shots at him.Just shocked.Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
Don't hate me because I'm iBeautiful.The most condescending person in the FFA is complaining about people taking shots at him.Just shocked.Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
Ahhh....the resident hater, phthalatemagic. Don't let him get your goat oat. He's just miserable.Don't hate me because I'm iBeautiful.The most condescending person in the FFA is complaining about people taking shots at him.Just shocked.Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
How are you wirelessy beaming them. If you can than yeah pointless. But I have a ton of movies on a 500 GB drive. If I want to take it with me it would be nice unless I could stream.Why go through the effort of ripping everything if you have the Drive to take. I would personally probably rip everything if I can stream it - I'm not paying to downlaod the movie, I'm talking about the 4.99 Doras I have or movies I already ownThumb drive would make sense.
And that's why they didn't include USB.They are going to just print money with the amount they are going to sell in accessories because that's the only way to "get stuff"
I don't hate you. I'm a pretty big fan.Don't hate me because I'm iBeautiful.The most condescending person in the FFA is complaining about people taking shots at him.Just shocked.Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
Yeah, this is not an Apple device, so I don't think that argument applies here. But who knows, maybe Apple plans to release something like that eventually.
This is a good point for people with large collections of DVDs who want to take them on the go. I guess I'm not a big DVD guy, and my biggest purpose with these devices is to simplify, and make it super portable and have to carry less. I'm not the kind of guy who would pack up a booklet of DVDs and take it with me, but I can see how that might be useful for like a 10 hour family drive with the kids to Disney or some such. For me though, it's either for home use, where a DVD player doesn't make sense, or for use on the subway and/or on business trips, where I'd never bring DVDs along. If there's a movie I want to watch, I just connect it to the computer and download to the iPad (like on my current trip -- I connected it to my computer and downloaded the first four episodes of The Pacific and a couple other movies, pretty sweet).As an aside, Sarah Palin is talking on TV criticizing the president's lack of experience with "nucular" issues and Korea. Is she really this dumb, or is this shtick?
So you got the fruit basket?
I think you need to look up the definition of condescending and report back.The most condescending person in the FFA is complaining about people taking shots at him.Just shocked.Didn't report you the first time. Glad to see the double standard though, and that you can come right back from your timeout and continue to take shots at me.Just go ahead and report me again
This is exactly what I've said previously in this thread that I completely don't understand. You are an Apple fanboi, had their products yet seem either upset or surprised on how propriety Apple is with their products?Step 1: Drama Queen/Attention Whore starts thread (and others related)
Step 2: Drama Queen/Attention Whore gets attention
Step 3: Drama Queen/Attention Whore complains about the attention.
Is this the typical Otis thread? I don’t know.
Anyway, during my vacation (the cause was either me telling Otis that he’s full of poopie or me telling Anakin that his salivary glands are overactive I don’t know which) I decided to actually try this out for myself. I got a 32G, the 64s were sold out. The Apple store goon said they had a lot of 32s and the Best Buy near me also had “plenty”. Not sure why these aren’t sold out considering the hype, TBH. This review is not for argument's sake. It's for people that want an objective opinion on the thing, coming from an Apple owner/Apple fangirl basher. Take that for what it's worth. Also, while I think I know my way around computers, they aren't my life and I'm sure I missed some tricks that may make the iPad more useful for what I want, and I'm sure some computer geeks here (no offense) will point out where I went wrong, and if I'm lucky I can get a few servings of Otis homecooked condescension. I won't fancy myself as a technology geek like some people just because I NEED to have the new gadget, then only use 15% of it. I buy things that are useful to me.
Speed – for people like me speed isn’t an issue unless something is too slow. I never say “holy cow! This thing is fast!” probably because I expect things to work fast anyway, right or wrong. So the Ipad here doesn’t get a chance to get the credit it is due here because for people like me, we take speed for granted. I’ll say the speed on this machine is wonderful and I have never had a problem with it at all.
Grade: A+
Screen – Inside? It’s beautiful. You can’t take it outside. I have a rough time seeing anything on this thing outside. Is it because I live where the sun shines? I guess so. Maybe Cupertino is a giant cavern? Any background reflected light washes out the screen in a horrible glare. Of course, this is how it is with everything I’ve used (never use a kindle). My bet is most of the people that use this will be inside anyway.
Grade: A-
Battery – As good as it gets. Fangirls here aren’t bull####ting when they say they can watch movies for 8 hours or such, but I don’t know why you’d do that.
Grade: A+
UI – I own an iPhone. I own a touch. I use a Mac irregularly but still use it, and don’t have issue with the OS like some people raised on PCs. Even if I didn’t own a single Apple product, I think it would be easy to pick up. The thing that IMO separates this from a PC is that it’s actually fun to use, instead of a task. People say no multitasking is an issue, it’s not. The only thing that bothers me is that it reloads safari if I have multiple pages up. This can easily be remedied if I can just have another web browser instead…
Grade: A
Programs – I find it annoying but not surprising (I do own other Apple products) that this is so proprietary. I don’t want to use Safari. I don’t care if people think it’s better than Chrome. I want to use Chrome. I don’t want to use iTunes for media management. Why can’t I just drag and drop onto my harddrive? Cmon! I don’t want to use Apple’s programs. I don’t care if their stuff better than Word (it’s not). I want to use my Word/Excel. Pages doesn’t do the #### I want it to do. I can’t find where I can create a custom doc theme in Pages, that's annoying. I also find it annoying that I have to buy all kinds of programs all over again. This makes the iPad seem like merely a revenue window. I guess people that want to be productive on it are being punished in some way. That being said, Flight Control is really a fun game. 250,000 apps? Who gives a ####? I want MY programs. Why the strict parameters?
Grade: D+
Peripherals and other stuff – No USB. Someone says USBs are dying out? OK. Are they dying out TOMORROW? No? Then no reason to not hook one up and leave it off of the next gen. No camera. That’s stupid, but the Apple store goon said there was an adapter coming out shortly. Speakers aren’t very good, but I guess like the screen, it’s as good as it gets in a machine like this. The keyboard is easy to type on and you don’t need to buy the accessory. Some people complain about this. Maybe I'm just used to it since I own an iPhone. It's easy to pick up.
Grade: C
Harddrive – Why so small? Bad Genes? Can’t we put a half T in ####ers this size yet? Will it overheat or something? I don’t understand why we can’t just load up on memory. I’m sure other machines like it will have equally bad memory, that’s no excuse. Is Apple a leading tech company or not? Don't make me report to a server to get my data. I want it in my hand. And if you aren't going to let me just plug an external HD into the machine like a netbook would let me do, then make your harddrive bigger. No excuse.
Grade: F
Summary: It’s a fun machine, if you want to simplify what its tasks are. Use it as an audio jukebox, but the speakers suck, so use this with headphones. You can’t use it as an all purpose jukebox, because the harddrive is too small. It’s a great e-picture frame, (proprietary) game player and web browsing device. It’s really pretty! This doesn’t “Just work” like one might expect it to. Beware the hidden costs of purchasing applications and accessories for this machine. If you are OK with hidden costs, lack of harddrive, and that you are forced to use Apple's programs, then it's a pretty sweet device.
Overall Grade: C+
Verdict - This is a buy for the following:
1) People that own everything
2) Apple fangirls
3) People that don’t need a computer for productivity, but for simplified uses like movies, music, games, email
4) People that are normally defeated when using more complex machines, like a netbook. It would be a nice gift for mom.
edit - I do want to say that I'm thankful for Apple, they make good products. And I'm thankful for this machine, without it other companies wouldn't try to improve upon it. And I am thankful for the fangirls that guy it no matter what. Without them, there may not be a second gen machine, and no improvements either. All of these things make the consumer ultimately the big winner here.It's easy to nitpick the first to do stuff. Neil Armstrong probably had a bit of a rough landing. Apple takes it in stride. Fangirls don't.
I can understand someone never having anything from Apple, actually I take that back since you can easily google anything now but I hear this a lot from people who LOVE Apple, no matter what they put out.Is this part of the Apple fanboi culture? To sort of have that "hey, look at me I can drop $ on something AND complain and act shocked on how limited the product is?"
Perhaps it comes down to a lot of people who buy Apple just don't know much about computers. Can't people read the specs off apple.com or go to an apple store and easily find out what it can and can't do? I hear a lot of complaints about the lack of hard drive space as if you go to Apple and they either lie to you or you don't know the size of your HD until after you buy it.
Kind of surprised you haven't raved about the screen and how you can easily see your reflection
I'm not going to but I'd do squaretrade if i did anything like that. Check out their website. They are cheaper and cover accidental coverage.
I'd be curious to see a list of USB peripherals you folks use regularly (aside from mouse, keyboard, iPod, and camera, each of which is either built into the iPad itself or can be attached via the goofy camera dongle). I know there's like a bazillion USB devices available in the world, including a USB-powered desk fan for those steamy FFA chats, but I'm curious to know which ones you actually use frequently and would miss out on with the iPad.
One of the most common uses of storage technology is a usb thumbdrive.
Then why are people who have Apple products act
and 
after they get it? Do they not read the specs?
Yup, that's the one I already posted about and agree with. Any others?
I wasn't talking about people being angry about the storage size after they buy it (does this ever happen?). I was talking about people criticizing this product in this thread for not having enough storage space. I don't get that complaint about this kind of device.Then why are people who have Apple products actand
after they get it? Do they not read the specs?
Then why are people who have Apple products actand
I think SSD's will be the rage in a couple of years when clouds are the norm. But for now, my iTunes music library alone is over 40 gigs (I have a ton of live Phish and Dead shows). Add in movies, podcasts, etc, and I'd get close to that 64 gigs pretty quickly.But in the long run, I agree with you - storage space will become almost irrelevant.I wasn't talking about people being angry about the storage size after they buy it (does this ever happen?). I was talking about people criticizing this product in this thread for not having enough storage space. I don't get that complaint about this kind of device.Then why are people who have Apple products act
True audiophiles don't like Digital. Video? Hi-res media files are still smaller than the original un-compressed format. Digital is ultimately disposable. If you want to save the media, then there are a ton of options to do that with. The native HD on any box is to run the OS and it's apps. You really don't need a lot of drive space on the box to do that. Anybody who builds a storage array does not have the OS on it. My builds in the future would have an 64GB SSD for the OS, and the RAID array is predicated on what I do with it. Goggins, do yourself a favor, and leave this thread now. You're a flat out bore.I think SSD's will be the rage in a couple of years when clouds are the norm. But for now, my iTunes music library alone is over 40 gigs (I have a ton of live Phish and Dead shows). Add in movies, podcasts, etc, and I'd get close to that 64 gigs pretty quickly.But in the long run, I agree with you - storage space will become almost irrelevant.I wasn't talking about people being angry about the storage size after they buy it (does this ever happen?). I was talking about people criticizing this product in this thread for not having enough storage space. I don't get that complaint about this kind of device.Then why are people who have Apple products act
Maybe, but that's not the crowd Apple spent the last 8 years wowing. I'm the normal Apple iPod guy - I love my 80 gig iPod and have spent years building my library. 16 and 32 gig iPads just aren't going to cut it if I can't even fit my music library on there.
What are the ton of options to store media on my iPad?
We need an ostrich smiley.
