Where we seem to differ is I believe what they want even more than Oct 6th 2023 is to demolish Gaza, take over the West Bank, and destroy Iran and their proxies.
I wouldn’t have as many issues with their actions, us funding it, and us being directly being involved if i believed their goal was just getting back to Oct 7th.
They cant return to october 6 because a group of disproportionately inbred (I dont say this in a hick insult kind of way, I mean it in the statistically representative way where 40% of palestinian marriages are to cousins) terrorists came across their border and committed crimes that are horrifying on a massive scale. So creating some fake imaginary scenario about possibly getting back to October 6th is silly. You cant.
But what we can do is understand that on October 6th they could have leveled Gaza and they didnt. Therefore we can conclude that they were content to not level Gaza prior to October 7th. That part is an undeniable fact. We can literally look up in any source you want and verify that they didnt level Gaza then.
There is no toll of Palestinian civilians too great to exchange for the complete elimination of Hamas. It is an evil that is currently unparalleled and unrivaled.
Dropping a bomb on a building that has children and combatants is not as evil as walking into playroom after playroom and annihilating children.
Firing at people firing at you while you are rescuing hostages from apartments and hitting "civilians" isnt the same as mowing down teenage girls at a music festival.
Letting Hamas exist isnt righteous. Even if we somehow could package up October 7th and pretend it never happened, you still have a terrorist group that turned its own people into a dependent class. Prior to their election palestinians were almost 90% self sufficient. Small businesses were super common. Hamas came in and taxed them to the gills. To where 80% of their population had become dependent on foreign aid,
before October 7th.
I mean they bragged about digging up water pipes to make rockets.
They purposely use their people as human shields
daily. (So some twitter clip where somebody with the username Syrian girl has one clip of a boy sitting on a truck and claiming Israelis are doing the same is not comparable)
The people that say Israel is just creating the next Hamas fail to explain why support for hamas is going down and support that October 7th was the right decision is also going down among Palestinians. My personal opinion is that the logical people are mostly distancing themselves from Hamas and less likely to die. So as more of the "civilians" that support hamas die, the polling changes.
Every once in a while we see a news story where somebody murders somebody and then hacks them up or plays with their body. We are all appalled and wonder how can a person be so evil.
Thats hamas. Literally. They do that. And then they turn around and tax people living in an "open aired prison" and brainwash them into committing murders or by bribing them by promising to pay their families. That they will later tax into bolivia (mike tyson or ricket henderson reference cant remember which one).
Nope. Hamas has gotta go. Every last one of them. No matter the cost.