Is a Denver vs Seattle Super Bowl inevitable? (1 Viewer)

[SaintsInDome2006]

Seattle has a big step forward with leading the home field playoff advantage race by roughly two games over NO, and getting the Saints at home, and ~3 games over SF.

But they are not gearing up for games against inferior opponents, that is clear. They should learn from Atlanta last year that this can indeed to come back to bite them in the rear in the playoffs, starting slow is not ok then. And for some bizarre reason they have abandoned Lynch near the end zone. The Hawks will never have a better opportunity than they do now to go all the way but having a championship mindset means blowing out teams like the Rams and Bucs.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seattle has a big step forward with leading the home field playoff advantage race by roughly two games over NO, and getting the Saints at home, and ~3 games over SF.

But they are not gearing up for games against inferior opponents, that is clear. They should learn from Atlanta last year that this can indeed to come back to bite them in the rear in the playoffs, starting slow is not ok then. And for some bizarre reason they have abandoned Lynch near the end zone. The Hawks will never have a better opportunity than they do now to go all the way but having a championship mindset means blowing out teams like the Rams and Bucs.

Better than losing to the Jets on the road.

The year the Saints won the Super Bowl they had to go to OT to beat a 3-8 Redskins team and won by 5 against the 1-15 Rams. In the NFL there are no gimmies.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Seattle has a big step forward with leading the home field playoff advantage race by roughly two games over NO, and getting the Saints at home, and ~3 games over SF.

But they are not gearing up for games against inferior opponents, that is clear. They should learn from Atlanta last year that this can indeed to come back to bite them in the rear in the playoffs, starting slow is not ok then. And for some bizarre reason they have abandoned Lynch near the end zone. The Hawks will never have a better opportunity than they do now to go all the way but having a championship mindset means blowing out teams like the Rams and Bucs.

Better than losing to the Jets on the road.

The year the Saints won the Super Bowl they had to go to OT to beat a 3-8 Redskins team and won by 5 against the 1-15 Rams. In the NFL there are no gimmies.

Hey, the Jets have been good at home, they're 4-1 now including a win over the Pats. No shame there.

The `09 Saints did have their struggles on the road but at least they scored points, nothing like being down 21-0 to a winless team (at home) or putting up <180 yards of offense vs a team with a backup QB.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Seattle has a big step forward with leading the home field playoff advantage race by roughly two games over NO, and getting the Saints at home, and ~3 games over SF.

But they are not gearing up for games against inferior opponents, that is clear. They should learn from Atlanta last year that this can indeed to come back to bite them in the rear in the playoffs, starting slow is not ok then. And for some bizarre reason they have abandoned Lynch near the end zone. The Hawks will never have a better opportunity than they do now to go all the way but having a championship mindset means blowing out teams like the Rams and Bucs.

Better than losing to the Jets on the road.

The year the Saints won the Super Bowl they had to go to OT to beat a 3-8 Redskins team and won by 5 against the 1-15 Rams. In the NFL there are no gimmies.

Hey, the Jets have been good at home, they're 4-1 now including a win over the Pats. No shame there.

The `09 Saints did have their struggles on the road but at least they scored points, nothing like being down 21-0 to a winless team (at home) or putting up <180 yards of offense vs a team with a backup QB.

How does the Seahawks offensive performance vs the Rams have anything to do with the Rams playing a backup QB? Keep reaching.

 

[Second Sight]

There is no such thing as inevitable in the NFL. The phrase "On any given Sunday" exists for a very good reason.

But if these two teams do meet in the SuperBowl it will be a greatly anticipated matchup.§

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Seattle has a big step forward with leading the home field playoff advantage race by roughly two games over NO, and getting the Saints at home, and ~3 games over SF.

But they are not gearing up for games against inferior opponents, that is clear. They should learn from Atlanta last year that this can indeed to come back to bite them in the rear in the playoffs, starting slow is not ok then. And for some bizarre reason they have abandoned Lynch near the end zone. The Hawks will never have a better opportunity than they do now to go all the way but having a championship mindset means blowing out teams like the Rams and Bucs.

Better than losing to the Jets on the road.

The year the Saints won the Super Bowl they had to go to OT to beat a 3-8 Redskins team and won by 5 against the 1-15 Rams. In the NFL there are no gimmies.

Hey, the Jets have been good at home, they're 4-1 now including a win over the Pats. No shame there.

The `09 Saints did have their struggles on the road but at least they scored points, nothing like being down 21-0 to a winless team (at home) or putting up <180 yards of offense vs a team with a backup QB.

How does the Seahawks offensive performance vs the Rams have anything to do with the Rams playing a backup QB? Keep reaching.

Excellent defense setting up opportunties that the offense should take advantage of.

It's interrelated.

Not knocking the Hawks here, my point was that they are in the driver's seat.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I suppose. But go ahead and look back at 2009 and tell me how you felt after the Saints slipped by the Redskins and Rams (I sorta remember that rams game, must have had money on it). Relieved right? NFL teams at this point in the season go on cruise control, you can't play the entire season at 150 mph, a good reason why we've only had two teams in the modern era run the table. At the end of the day only your record counts and the Seahawks are 8-1.

Do they need to play better? Absolutely. Max Unger suffered a concussion yesterday, that certainly will not help the O-line issues near-term. I think Okung and Giacomini (their tackles) will be back for the Saints game, so they need to get through the next two weeks. Run defense also has issues, those seem a little easier to fix since the problems seem to be schematic and execution related.

We'll see, it's a long season. I would consider them a bit lucky to have come out of the last two weeks 2-0, and yesterday was much more bothersome than the Rams game.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If you look at just about every team in the 21st century that has won 12+ games (a trajectory Seattle is obviously headed for), they all had at least one game or two where they squeaked by by the skin of their teeth. Seattle has had three of them now (the Schaub inexplicable INT, the Rams awful play-calling last week at the goal line and yesterday), but hey, that is what happens. To point to the 2009 Saints again, they had those crazy comeback wins against Washington and Miami, and if neither of those happen, they likely don't win the Super Bowl, so it's just part of the game. But Seattle needs to get a lot better in multiple areas if they hope to make a deep playoff run. That of course can also be said for Denver, KC, NE, NO, etc. That is why nothing is inevitable.

 

[Routilla]

I have the Patriots-Packers.

 

[BassNBrew]

If you look at just about every team in the 21st century that has won 12+ games (a trajectory Seattle is obviously headed for), they all had at least one game or two where they squeaked by by the skin of their teeth. Seattle has had three of them now (the Schaub inexplicable INT, the Rams awful play-calling last week at the goal line and yesterday), but hey, that is what happens. To point to the 2009 Saints again, they had those crazy comeback wins against Washington and Miami, and if neither of those happen, they likely don't win the Super Bowl, so it's just part of the game. But Seattle needs to get a lot better in multiple areas if they hope to make a deep playoff run. That of course can also be said for Denver, KC, NE, NO, etc. That is why nothing is inevitable.

Don't forget DeAngelo fumbling late in the 4th at the end of a 12 yard run deep in Seattle territory in game one.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If you look at just about every team in the 21st century that has won 12+ games (a trajectory Seattle is obviously headed for), they all had at least one game or two where they squeaked by by the skin of their teeth. Seattle has had three of them now (the Schaub inexplicable INT, the Rams awful play-calling last week at the goal line and yesterday), but hey, that is what happens. To point to the 2009 Saints again, they had those crazy comeback wins against Washington and Miami, and if neither of those happen, they likely don't win the Super Bowl, so it's just part of the game. But Seattle needs to get a lot better in multiple areas if they hope to make a deep playoff run. That of course can also be said for Denver, KC, NE, NO, etc. That is why nothing is inevitable.

Don't forget DeAngelo fumbling late in the 4th at the end of a 12 yard run deep in Seattle territory in game one.

True, but the game ended with Seattle kneeling at the Carolina 23, 24 and 25, so given that they drove down following DeAngelo's fumble with 5:25 left, there is a very good chance Seattle still wins the game. And even if DeAngelo doesn't fumble at the 8, there is no guarantee they go on to score (see: the Rams last week).

 

[Riversco]

About that Packer thing? Nevermind. Its still the Seahawks to lose.

 

[BaBastage]

If you look at just about every team in the 21st century that has won 12+ games (a trajectory Seattle is obviously headed for), they all had at least one game or two where they squeaked by by the skin of their teeth. Seattle has had three of them now (the Schaub inexplicable INT, the Rams awful play-calling last week at the goal line and yesterday), but hey, that is what happens. To point to the 2009 Saints again, they had those crazy comeback wins against Washington and Miami, and if neither of those happen, they likely don't win the Super Bowl, so it's just part of the game. But Seattle needs to get a lot better in multiple areas if they hope to make a deep playoff run. That of course can also be said for Denver, KC, NE, NO, etc. That is why nothing is inevitable.

Don't forget DeAngelo fumbling late in the 4th at the end of a 12 yard run deep in Seattle territory in game one.

True, but the game ended with Seattle kneeling at the Carolina 23, 24 and 25, so given that they drove down following DeAngelo's fumble with 5:25 left, there is a very good chance Seattle still wins the game. And even if DeAngelo doesn't fumble at the 8, there is no guarantee they go on to score (see: the Rams last week).

I agree with this. I'd rank the four Seahawk's close games as:

Houston - Insane Luck. There's no 2 ways about that one. Schaub gift wrapped that w.

St Louis - Very Lucky. STL outperformed them in just about every category except the one that counts. (Scores). Horrible playcalling at the end.

Tampa Bay. Not Luck. Seahawks found themselves down early, but clawed their way back like good teams do. You could tell in the 2nd half that the tide had turned and they would probably win the game.

Carolina. Not Luck. Yes, Carolina fumbled late in the game while in scoring position, but the game wasn't "in hand" by any means.

One thing about the way Seattle is getting their wins - and this could be dangerous for other teams - is that they're learning how to come back and win tough games. It'll be easier for teams who haven't been through this as often to mentally give up when down 14 points in the 4th quarter. But for Seattle - good teams are going to have to keep their feet on the 'Hawks throats if they truly want to put them away.

The Seahawks do look vulnerable, but if I'm a fan, there's a lot of positives to take away other than the enviable 8-1 record.

 

[proninja]

About that Packer thing? Nevermind. Its still the Seahawks to lose.

When people try to make definite predictions about who will make the super bowl at the halfway point of the season, usually they're going to end up looking foolish.

 

[Hooper31]

About that Packer thing? Nevermind. Its still the Seahawks to lose.

When people try to make definite predictions about who will make the super bowl at the halfway point of the season, usually they're going to end up looking foolish.

But it you don't throw out your prediction you don't get to look all smart and stuff later on.

 

[proninja]

About that Packer thing? Nevermind. Its still the Seahawks to lose.

When people try to make definite predictions about who will make the super bowl at the halfway point of the season, usually they're going to end up looking foolish.

But it you don't throw out your prediction you don't get to look all smart and stuff later on.

True, I suppose if I made a random prediction and I hit on the 5% chance it had to come true, then I could be the random guy bumping this thread in February all proud of himself. Maybe I should reconsider.

 

[Hooper31]

True, I suppose if I made a random prediction and I hit on the 5% chance it had to come true, then I could be the random guy bumping this thread in February all proud of himself. Maybe I should reconsider.

Do it. I'll still respect you in the off season if you miss.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you look at just about every team in the 21st century that has won 12+ games (a trajectory Seattle is obviously headed for), they all had at least one game or two where they squeaked by by the skin of their teeth. Seattle has had three of them now (the Schaub inexplicable INT, the Rams awful play-calling last week at the goal line and yesterday), but hey, that is what happens. To point to the 2009 Saints again, they had those crazy comeback wins against Washington and Miami, and if neither of those happen, they likely don't win the Super Bowl, so it's just part of the game. But Seattle needs to get a lot better in multiple areas if they hope to make a deep playoff run. That of course can also be said for Denver, KC, NE, NO, etc. That is why nothing is inevitable.

Don't forget DeAngelo fumbling late in the 4th at the end of a 12 yard run deep in Seattle territory in game one.

True, but the game ended with Seattle kneeling at the Carolina 23, 24 and 25, so given that they drove down following DeAngelo's fumble with 5:25 left, there is a very good chance Seattle still wins the game. And even if DeAngelo doesn't fumble at the 8, there is no guarantee they go on to score (see: the Rams last week).

I agree with this. I'd rank the four Seahawk's close games as:

Houston - Insane Luck. There's no 2 ways about that one. Schaub gift wrapped that w.

St Louis - Very Lucky. STL outperformed them in just about every category except the one that counts. (Scores). Horrible playcalling at the end.

Tampa Bay. Not Luck. Seahawks found themselves down early, but clawed their way back like good teams do. You could tell in the 2nd half that the tide had turned and they would probably win the game.

Carolina. Not Luck. Yes, Carolina fumbled late in the game while in scoring position, but the game wasn't "in hand" by any means.

One thing about the way Seattle is getting their wins - and this could be dangerous for other teams - is that they're learning how to come back and win tough games. It'll be easier for teams who haven't been through this as often to mentally give up when down 14 points in the 4th quarter. But for Seattle - good teams are going to have to keep their feet on the 'Hawks throats if they truly want to put them away.

The Seahawks do look vulnerable, but if I'm a fan, there's a lot of positives to take away other than the enviable 8-1 record.

Again, they need to learn from Atlanta last year - they have a window, they need to learn to start fast, not start slow, or else it will come back to bite them in the playoffs.

Still. the Seahawks look nearly unbeatable at home, and if they get HFA they should go all the way to the SB.

Should.

 

[IheartGuinness]

Chicago vs. Denver. The bears look like a team of destiny.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Still. the Seahawks look nearly unbeatable at home

They do?

 

[steveski]

They do?

Yeah didn't you see them hold the Bucs to 0 points in overtime this past week?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

 

[Tanner9919]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

 

[Alkahsu]

Still. the Seahawks look nearly unbeatable at home

They do?

Russell Wilson has never lost at home as a Seahawk.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

Hey I'm withya, I like these guys better than the old Manning versions - beat the undefeated Broncos and Seahawks, they should be ranking.

 

[IheartGuinness]

I don't see anyone beating the bears in the playoffs. They're going to be unstoppable. Put your money on them now.

 

[jurb26]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

 

[drummer]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

I'd buy the Colts more than the Chiefs. They've actually beaten good teams.

 

[jurb26]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

I'd buy the Colts more than the Chiefs. They've actually beaten good teams.

Not the point.

 

[drummer]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

I'd buy the Colts more than the Chiefs. They've actually beaten good teams.

Not the point.

You mentioned Chiefs. If you have a point, make it. But until KC beats teams of the caliber the Colts have before they meet later on this season, it sounds more like you're red in a certain area because they aren't taken that seriously. Yet. Until they beat a quality team.

 

[Ghost Rider]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I don't think I would say a team that needed a letdown by the Texans following their coach having a mini-stroke to turn a game in which they were get routed around is dominant.

If you take the three most impressive wins by all 3+ win teams this year, the Colts would be at the top (beating Denver, Seattle and SF), but the loss of Reggie Wayne is massive. They are on the way up, but I don't think this is the year.

 

[seahawk 17]

Maybe Denver in the Super Bowl but Seattle no. Saint and Packers are better then the Sea Hooks

Packer fan is delusional...one and done.

Right now I would think Colts vs Seahawks or Saints.

I feel bad, I don't like to see teams fall apart due to injury, I do like to see the Colt's get respect since I was the first.

 

[jurb26]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

I'd buy the Colts more than the Chiefs. They've actually beaten good teams.

Not the point.

You mentioned Chiefs. If you have a point, make it. But until KC beats teams of the caliber the Colts have before they meet later on this season, it sounds more like you're red in a certain area because they aren't taken that seriously. Yet. Until they beat a quality team.

The point was rather obvious I thought. He made a comment saying Indy has beaten all of the top contenders. I simply asked when they played KC, you know the only undefeated team in the NFL.

 

[drummer]

ok lets just keep ignoring the Colts..I'll take them above all else to win the SB. I dont necessarily buy the Broncos, and Indy has beaten all of the top contenders Sea Sf Den , and impressively at that...

they look dominant..

I hadn't realized they played the Chiefs. When'd that happen?

I'd buy the Colts more than the Chiefs. They've actually beaten good teams.

Not the point.

You mentioned Chiefs. If you have a point, make it. But until KC beats teams of the caliber the Colts have before they meet later on this season, it sounds more like you're red in a certain area because they aren't taken that seriously. Yet. Until they beat a quality team.

The point was rather obvious I thought. He made a comment saying Indy has beaten all of the top contenders. I simply asked when they played KC, you know the only undefeated team in the NFL.

Yeah, I got that. Now we can go round and round with this, but IND already proved that it could beat a quality team, 3 of them as a matter of fact. Now if KC beat the Chargers and the Broncos twice, and beats IND, then they could be considered a serious contender. But I still bet more on Luck than on a team that has been very lucky in it's sched.

 

[FUBAR]

I'll call it now, Panthers vs. Colts

Panthers win

 

[Sabertooth]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

 

[jurb26]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Isn't Rogers out for like 3 more weeks?

 

[FUBAR]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Isn't Rogers out for like 3 more weeks?

that's the word, but it's a perfect time if it had to happen. Eagles, Giants and Vikings are still winnable games. I won't be surprised if they go 2-1 over this stretch. If Cobb comes back 100%, the Packers are in a good spot to make noise.

As a Lions fan, I'm hoping Rodgers either isn't back or is rusty for Thanksgiving. That will be an epic game.

After that game, the Packers can easily go 3-0 before playing the Bears in week 17 for what could be either the division or a WC spot.

 

[jurb26]

Good point, Fubar. I didn't realize the schedule was so easy the next few weeks. Those are all winnable games for GB, like you said. If for some reason they lose 2 of them though... Possible given Rogers impact. Then I think they are going to be in a bad spot.

 

[FUBAR]

Good point, Fubar. I didn't realize the schedule was so easy the next few weeks. Those are all winnable games for GB, like you said. If for some reason they lose 2 of them though... Possible given Rogers impact. Then I think they are going to be in a bad spot.

Sure. It doesn't help that they have two of the better teams in the league in their division. The NFC North and Wild Card should be two of the toughest races down the stretch.

Even if they do win the WC or division, I'm not betting on the Packers to beat the Panthers, Seahawks or 49ers, but they'll be tough. I'd like to pretend my Lions could win it all, but they aren't complete enough to do it. Stafford/Calvin can take over games of course, but they'll have a tough time against the more complete teams.

 

[Donnybrook]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Curse of the Sabertooth.

 

[Paulymaggs]

No way. 49ers just need to get Crabtree back and they're the best team in the NFC.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

No way. 49ers just need to get Crabtree back and they're the best team in the NFC.

Not likely Crabtree will be anywhere near 100% and they lost Vernon Davis today with a concussion. I do think they are one of the three best teams in the NFC though, and they have the type of team that can play well on the road.

 

[FUBAR]

I'll call it now, Panthers vs. Colts

Panthers win

Panthers call looking OK.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Lol........yeah, Packers are a lock for the playoffs.

 

[FUBAR]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Lol........yeah, Packers are a lock for the playoffs.

They might still be a top 6 team in the nfl. 3rd in the division though.

 

[jurb26]

No way. 49ers just need to get Crabtree back and they're the best team in the NFC.

The problem in SF isn't the WRs, it's the QB. He's not progressing, at all.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Lol........yeah, Packers are a lock for the playoffs.

They might still be a top 6 team in the nfl. 3rd in the division though.

I can agree with that, but they aren't making the playoffs.

 

[lbouchard]

No way. 49ers just need to get Crabtree back and they're the best team in the NFC.

No way. A 75% Crabtree isn't going to do much for the O. Good luck beating SEA in SEA.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Green Bay is going to add that 14th Championship this season.

Oof

Nothing has changed. They weren't going to get home field anyway. They will still make the playoffs. Rodgers, Cobb, Matthews, and Jones will all be healthy then. Lead pipe lock.

Lol........yeah, Packers are a lock for the playoffs.

Lead pipe lock.