Is it ever ok to use a belt to discipline your child? (1 Viewer)

[ZBTHorton]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesPoor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesSwearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesCatch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and SpankingAnd when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. SpankingChildren respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

 

[shader]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesPoor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesSwearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesCatch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and SpankingAnd when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. SpankingChildren respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

 

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Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

Which of these things is remotely similar to slapping a child's behind?

 

[ZBTHorton]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesPoor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesSwearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesCatch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and SpankingAnd when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. SpankingChildren respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

Because there are more than 100 people ITT alone(in the poll) who deem it acceptable to hit their child with a belt. I don't really think that's all that far off from being a violent savage.The concept of hitting your child with your open hand as a punishment seems pretty bad to me. The concept of not being happy at the amount of pain/damage you are inflicting upon your child, so you must seek out some sort of weapon seems pretty damn violent to me.

 

[shader]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

Which of these things is remotely similar to slapping a child's behind?

Let's kill people! Let's destroy lives before they even get to breathe air!!!But whoa, you better not use a belt you savage!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.

All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Poor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Swearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Catch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and Spanking

And when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. Spanking

Children respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?

Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?

I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

A spanking doesn't cause damage.. A beating causes damage..A fight at school would get a grounding from me.. It's not as immediately dangerous as playing with fire in the house.

Stealing would probably get a spanking..

I think the number of whacks, like the length or grounding is the measure.. Not harder...

If grounding, loss of privileges, and spanking didn't work. I think a change of scenery would be next. Send them to work on the farm with their grandparents for a summer.. Or something the like..

 

[shader]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:- Okay with abortion- Okay with capital punishment- Okay with physical violence against another person- Okay with war- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..Not that this topic needs discussion here..I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesPoor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesSwearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privilegesCatch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and SpankingAnd when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. SpankingChildren respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

Because there are more than 100 people ITT alone(in the poll) who deem it acceptable to hit their child with a belt. I don't really think that's all that far off from being a violent savage.The concept of hitting your child with your open hand as a punishment seems pretty bad to me. The concept of not being happy at the amount of pain/damage you are inflicting upon your child, so you must seek out some sort of weapon seems pretty damn violent to me.

Well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But plenty of good people disagree with you and aren't violent.If you get angry, yell and scream and grab a belt and take input on your kid, that's violent.If you calmly belt your child as a stern warning, it's not necessarily violent to many people, though I personally wouldn't do it.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

Which of these things is remotely similar to slapping a child's behind?

it doesn't matter how similar they are.. They all lack a passion for humanity and are criminal acts (IMO) against other humans..To be ok with any of the above but be outraged by a properly administered spanking is ridiculous..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.

All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Poor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Swearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Catch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and Spanking

And when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. Spanking

Children respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?

Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?

I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

Because there are more than 100 people ITT alone(in the poll) who deem it acceptable to hit their child with a belt. I don't really think that's all that far off from being a violent savage.The concept of hitting your child with your open hand as a punishment seems pretty bad to me. The concept of not being happy at the amount of pain/damage you are inflicting upon your child, so you must seek out some sort of weapon seems pretty damn violent to me.

Damage = red marksCan you tell me what damage can be done with a belt spanking if done properly? Hands can be just as "damaging" as a belt if not more..

 

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What about yelling at your kids?

You people are so insensitive to their feelings.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.

All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Poor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Swearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Catch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and Spanking

And when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. Spanking

Children respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?

Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?

I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

Because there are more than 100 people ITT alone(in the poll) who deem it acceptable to hit their child with a belt. I don't really think that's all that far off from being a violent savage.The concept of hitting your child with your open hand as a punishment seems pretty bad to me. The concept of not being happy at the amount of pain/damage you are inflicting upon your child, so you must seek out some sort of weapon seems pretty damn violent to me.

Damage = red marksCan you tell me what damage can be done with a belt spanking if done properly? Hands can be just as "damaging" as a belt if not more..

I have no idea what hitting someone with a belt "done properly" even means. There is no "done properly" in my mind. If using a belt doesn't inflict more pain, then why do people use them?I have no experience with the subject. But if you asked me which was more likely to leave a mark on someones ###, for more than just a few seconds, I would definitely bet that the belt was more likely. But again, I have no experience in the matter, just seems like common sense.

 

[General Malaise]

I received a paddling in middle school in Texas in the 80s. I don't think they do that anymore. Why do you think that is?

Because you aren't in middle school anymore?

 

[simey]

What about yelling at your kids?

You people are so insensitive to their feelings.

My dad giving me and my siblings a verbal beatdown was way worse than my mom giving us spankings.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is physical violence against another person. Why do people have such a hard time seeing this?And please don't insult yourself by saying spankings don't hurt. If they don't hurt, they have zero effect which makes spanking even dumber.

When did I say that? A spanking is meant to hurt.. But not to damage..

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous. Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

I think maybe I am going to implement a policy that when people at work are late, they are going to get the belt across the butt. I will leave the pants on so it will just hurt, but cause no damage.

 

[Mr. Soup Nazi]

Are the phags in here actually saying it isn't OK to use a belt?

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What about yelling at your kids?

You people are so insensitive to their feelings.

My dad giving me and my siblings a verbal beatdown was way worse than my mom giving us spankings.

SEE! You damn criminals yelling at your kids should be locked up.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

 

[ZBTHorton]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

 

[doowain]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Against the turnbuckle, Nature Boy-style. Woooooo!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather..

 

[BustedKnuckles]

If the kids dont go to bed when told , just apply an MMA choke hold and put them to sleep.

 

[doowain]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather..

Yup. This is what I said earlier in the thread. Using the belt removes the parent from being the source of the disciplinary pain. The belt becomes the feared object and not the parent.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

 

[mr roboto]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

Uh, he said spanking. Not belt.Honestly, the non sequiturs and faulty assumptions in this thread make me weep for humanity. It's like reading a 6th grade debate class manuscript.

YOU ALL NEED SPANKINGS.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

Uh, he said spanking. Not belt.

Uh, I suggest you read all of his posts. He doesn't believe in using your hand.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

If the kids dont go to bed when told , just apply an MMA choke hold and put them to sleep.

Only allowed to spank them if you find them following you through a condominium complex..

 

[mr roboto]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

Uh, he said spanking. Not belt.

Uh, I suggest you read all of his posts. He doesn't believe in using your hand.

Can't find that.He did say a belt was ok. Never said he doesn't believe in using the hand.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather..

Yup. This is what I said earlier in the thread. Using the belt removes the parent from being the source of the disciplinary pain. The belt becomes the feared object and not the parent.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

Uh, he said spanking. Not belt.

Uh, I suggest you read all of his posts. He doesn't believe in using your hand.

Can't find that.He did say a belt was ok. Never said he doesn't believe in using the hand.

"Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline..

Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..

If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather.. "

Like 5 posts up.

 

[mr roboto]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

Uh, he said spanking. Not belt.

Uh, I suggest you read all of his posts. He doesn't believe in using your hand.

Can't find that.He did say a belt was ok. Never said he doesn't believe in using the hand.

"Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline..

Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..

If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather.. "

Like 5 posts up.

My bad.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

It would be pretty hard to damage a child's ### with a doubled over leather belt through pants... Might hurt more the harder you swat, but I doubt you can actually do "damage"..You're a jackass btw..

 

[parasaurolophus]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

 

[Clifford]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

What kind of redneck circles do you run in dude? The people involved in that decision never got over it. I mean, I know people who supported it as a measure to avoid a ground assault on Japan that would have led to much more massive casualties on both sides, but I don't know anyone who didn't object to the sheer horror unleashed upon the people that lived there.Similar to Dresden bombings...except more excusable.

Can you not tell by my on line personality (Carolina Hustler) that I currently live in the south..? But there are plenty here on this forum that have no problem with it..

I live in Alabama

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

 

[Clifford]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather..

Yup. This is what I said earlier in the thread. Using the belt removes the parent from being the source of the disciplinary pain. The belt becomes the feared object and not the parent.

Anyone who believes this crock of #### please reread 1st page of this thread. You'll know the post when u get to it.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

It would be pretty hard to damage a child's ### with a doubled over leather belt through pants... Might hurt more the harder you swat, but I doubt you can actually do "damage"..You're a jackass btw..

Okay cool. Doubled over through pants. Didn't know that part, seems like every spanking I've ever seen on TV or anything the kid is bare assed. They should sell some kind of practice devices for this thing. I wouldn't worry though, I'm sure plenty of Dads just wail away and play it by ear. No big deal, you're just trying to hurt them, but not damage them, nothing can possibly go wrong.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

I thought intent was all that mattered?Old gramps is just trying to teach him. That's all.After all there was no damage.I went to the grocery store tonight and the cashier gave me too little change and then smarted off to me afterward. I took her right over my knee so I could teach her that she needed to learn respect. Three whacks. These 16 year olds need to be taught respect so they can succeed in life.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

I thought intent was all that mattered?Old gramps is just trying to teach him. That's all.After all there was no damage.I went to the grocery store tonight and the cashier gave me too little change and then smarted off to me afterward. I took her right over my knee so I could teach her that she needed to learn respect. Three whacks. These 16 year olds need to be taught respect so they can succeed in life.

Can't believe you would stoop so low as to hit her with your bare hand. Everyone knows swinging a belt at them is far more humane. Plus, that way that girl won't hate you at all, she'll only hate the belt. It's totally fool proof.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

I thought intent was all that mattered?Old gramps is just trying to teach him. That's all.After all there was no damage.I went to the grocery store tonight and the cashier gave me too little change and then smarted off to me afterward. I took her right over my knee so I could teach her that she needed to learn respect. Three whacks. These 16 year olds need to be taught respect so they can succeed in life.

16-18 = Children.. got it..

 

[Christo]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

It would be pretty hard to damage a child's ### with a doubled over leather belt through pants... Might hurt more the harder you swat, but I doubt you can actually do "damage"..You're a jackass btw..

Okay cool. Doubled over through pants. Didn't know that part, seems like every spanking I've ever seen on TV or anything the kid is bare assed.

WTH sort of television shows are you watching?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

How about spanking with a pair of suspenders ,nobody really ever wears those. That way the child wont fear belts wnd will be able to wear belts as an adult .

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

I thought intent was all that mattered?Old gramps is just trying to teach him. That's all.After all there was no damage.I went to the grocery store tonight and the cashier gave me too little change and then smarted off to me afterward. I took her right over my knee so I could teach her that she needed to learn respect. Three whacks. These 16 year olds need to be taught respect so they can succeed in life.

Can't believe you would stoop so low as to hit her with your bare hand. Everyone knows swinging a belt at them is far more humane. Plus, that way that girl won't hate you at all, she'll only hate the belt. It's totally fool proof.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

What if an old grandpa took a belt to an 18 year old that was cutting through his lawn with only the intent to teach him it is not ok to cut through his lawn?That ok?

Is the 18 year old his son?

I thought intent was all that mattered?Old gramps is just trying to teach him. That's all.After all there was no damage.I went to the grocery store tonight and the cashier gave me too little change and then smarted off to me afterward. I took her right over my knee so I could teach her that she needed to learn respect. Three whacks. These 16 year olds need to be taught respect so they can succeed in life.

16-18 = Children.. got it..

So is it ok or not? I see you are avoiding answering the question.

 

[shader]

Funny to me that some folks against spankings are:

- Okay with abortion

- Okay with capital punishment

- Okay with physical violence against another person

- Okay with war

- Okay with knowingly killing civilians during war

I doubt you'd find many people against spankings who were 'okay' with #3 or #5. Who is okay with killing civilians during war anyway?

Typically hard to find folks that object to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki..

Not that this topic needs discussion here..

I just can't understand it.. Spanking a child < any of those items above..

Spanking a child is a choice with clear alternatives. I'd guess the majority of the people who are in favor of items above, are only in favor of them when not presented with a clear alternative. It's not like there are "PRO abortion" people. They are pro choice. I don't know anyone (sane) who is PRO war is PRO hurting people.Kind of hard to really think about though because I don't think many people are 'okay' with any of the things above, regardless of their feelings on spankings. They're just okay with them in certain situations. Just like most of the situations above, people disagree about when those certain situations actually apply.

All of the examples above need a lot more context in order to be relevant. I doubt almost anyone you talk to is "okay with war" when all it would take is a phone call to stop from going to war. Especially since my child isn't Nazi Germany. They're my child. They are a developing country who relies on me for everything in life. I shouldn't need to resort to "war" when other things can just as easily accomplish the same goal.

The spanking is no where near as detrimental as any of the above. And there are clear alternatives to all of those items listed.. Spanking is situational was well..Being mean to his sister.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Poor grades.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Swearing at their mother.. Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges

Catch a child playing with matches in his bedroom.. Lecture and Spanking

And when "Lecture, grounding and/or loss of privileges" doesn't work.. Spanking

Children respond differently. Some will be easy to correct, and some won't..

Please continue with this series of events.What do we do when they get in a fight at school? Or steal something? Or whatever you would deem worse than the matches?

Hit them even harder with the belt? Do we find another device around the house we can hit them with that should cause more damage?

I'm not being snarky, I'm seriously interested.

Spanking has been going on for a long, long time. Why do you act like its some new form of discipline that is going to raise a world of violent savages?

Because there are more than 100 people ITT alone(in the poll) who deem it acceptable to hit their child with a belt. I don't really think that's all that far off from being a violent savage.The concept of hitting your child with your open hand as a punishment seems pretty bad to me. The concept of not being happy at the amount of pain/damage you are inflicting upon your child, so you must seek out some sort of weapon seems pretty damn violent to me.

Damage = red marksCan you tell me what damage can be done with a belt spanking if done properly? Hands can be just as "damaging" as a belt if not more..

I have no idea what hitting someone with a belt "done properly" even means. There is no "done properly" in my mind. If using a belt doesn't inflict more pain, then why do people use them?I have no experience with the subject. But if you asked me which was more likely to leave a mark on someones ###, for more than just a few seconds, I would definitely bet that the belt was more likely. But again, I have no experience in the matter, just seems like common sense.

Seems pretty straight-forward to me? Basically the belt hurts more?

 

[parasaurolophus]

How about spanking with a pair of suspenders ,nobody really ever wears those. That way the child wont fear belts wnd will be able to wear belts as an adult .

This is an excellent point. I think maybe a bolo tie should be used. Everybody should be afraid to wear one of those. Better for the world. Less damage than a belt.

 

[shader]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because what if you are a pansy father and can't actually teach your kids a lesson with your hand? Or what if you are a weak woman?If you are spanking, the entire point of it is to "bring the pain".

 

[shader]

Never said you did. Was just cutting you off before you did. You just decided to take a slightly different path. It hurts, but it doesn't damage. Almost as ridiculous.

Maybe you could explain for me how a properly administered spanking does damage..

Is there a manual somewhere on how to properly administer a spanking?Is there a certain speed at which I'm trying to swing the belt at my kid? Maybe a specific noise I'm listening for? How about length/width/weight of the belt?

I really want to make sure I'm hurting them, but not damaging them, while I'm teaching them.

It would be pretty hard to damage a child's ### with a doubled over leather belt through pants... Might hurt more the harder you swat, but I doubt you can actually do "damage"..You're a jackass btw..

Okay cool. Doubled over through pants. Didn't know that part, seems like every spanking I've ever seen on TV or anything the kid is bare assed.

WTH sort of television shows are you watching?

 

[Pick]

Why do people think this behavior against their own children is so acceptable, but would never in a million years do it to another person? Sounds like a bully to me.

Attacking another adult, or anyone for that matter is usually done with the intent to harm.A spanking is done with the intent to teach, and to safeguard children from much greater harms.It's all about the intent..

Then why does anyone use a belt? If it's just about teaching, seems like a hand would be way simpler.

Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather..

Yup. This is what I said earlier in the thread. Using the belt removes the parent from being the source of the disciplinary pain. The belt becomes the feared object and not the parent.

Anyone who believes this crock of #### please reread 1st page of this thread. You'll know the post when u get to it.

Ya. And like I said earlier, there's plenty healthy about a kid having a fear of parents.

 

[ZBTHorton]

Being against spanking <> being against using a belt. I have no problem with spanking if it is necessary.Can someone answer a question I had earlier? Why the need for a belt or any object? Afraid to hurt your soft puffy hands?

This is one of the replies from earlier."Because the belt, or the paddle are symbols of discipline.. Personally, I think the belt is more appropriate. Using your hands to discipline a child seems inappropriate to me..If you intended to "Damage" someone, you could do a whole lot more damage with your hands then with a strap of leather.. "