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Isaiah Crowell (1 Viewer)

Dave Stauff said:
Be interested in any comparisons between West and Crowell from those that had a chance to see the New Orleans game. See that Crowell's YPC was a bit higher, but hard to tell how West looked from a stat sheet . . .
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i watched it as i live in cleveland. both looked fine. i thought west in particular made some nice plays, esp the td.

 
Rotoworld:

Isaiah Crowell rushed for 55 yards and a touchdown on 11 carries in the Browns' Week 3 loss to Baltimore.

He was far more efficient than Terrance West, averaging 5.0 YPC compared to West's 3.0, but was not involved in the passing game and handled one fewer carry than West. Crowell and West will now enter a Week 4 bye with Ben Tate (knee) tentatively due back in Week 5. Fantasy owners dealing with bye-week crunches may have to part with Crowell. He's the Browns' No. 3 tailback.



Sep 21 - 5:45 PM
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I'm mad at myself for dropping him after not seeing a single thing through 3 preseason games, but what else am I suppose to believe?

 
Sabertooth said:
Crowell isn't going away.
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If he only got 1 carry less than West yesterday, what does that say about his role going forward?

It seems to indicate a relatively open and upwardly mobile mindset on the part of the staff. The guy goes from not appearing in 3 preseason games to a near 50-50 split 3 weeks into the season with the camp darling?

I'd hate to be a Tate or West owner watching this guy chew up carries for pennies compared to the dollars that I paid for Tate or West.

 
seemed he took over for west in the 2nd half of the game. rarely saw west and crowell played most snaps. id imagine when tate comes back its a 3headed monster yielding no starting value and eating up valuable roster spots.

 
If he was the primary back he'd be a stud. Splitting carries West he's a RB3/flex. Splitting carries with West and Tate he's not worth a roster spot except 14 team leagues.

 
Dropped Crowell in my dynasty league after getting no love during the preseason. Thought I would be able to go back and get him after the season. Made a move to reacquire him after week 2. Cost me TRich. Happy I did it. So far.

 
I am a Crowell dynasty owner. I thought Crowell looked good. But I honestly thought West looked good too. I think this is one of those situations where time will tell if one separates from the other. But it's super early in both careers so they have time to do so. Nothing to do but hold.

 
amnesiac said:
lead back next year.

plan accordingly.
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Don't know that it will take that long. He finished game 3, so maybe he is already past West. He is a much more decisive runner than West and his acceleration up field is much better. I think he will lead them in carries this year.

 
Oh its downright ugly (imho) Crowell looks the best of all of em, and still is 2nd fiddle OR anything but the bellcow..

Good things are worth waiting for though, and it should be quite the show!

 
Dismattle said:
Oh its downright ugly (imho) Crowell looks the best of all of em, and still is 2nd fiddle OR anything but the bellcow..

Good things are worth waiting for though, and it should be quite the show!
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Just imagine how Christine Michael owners feel. At least Crowell is able to show what he can do in an actual game. I wonder if a Michael owner would trade for Crowell straight up...

 
aedenone said:
Dismattle said:
Oh its downright ugly (imho) Crowell looks the best of all of em, and still is 2nd fiddle OR anything but the bellcow..

Good things are worth waiting for though, and it should be quite the show!
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Just imagine how Christine Michael owners feel. At least Crowell is able to show what he can do in an actual game. I wonder if a Michael owner would trade for Crowell straight up...
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I wonder if a Crowell owner would decline said offer . . .

 
aedenone said:
Dismattle said:
Oh its downright ugly (imho) Crowell looks the best of all of em, and still is 2nd fiddle OR anything but the bellcow..

Good things are worth waiting for though, and it should be quite the show!
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Just imagine how Christine Michael owners feel. At least Crowell is able to show what he can do in an actual game. I wonder if a Michael owner would trade for Crowell straight up...
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probably not, because they are too stubborn, most dyno owners are

 
I'm not terribly concerned about Tate coming back. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy and I think he'll be on limited snaps going forward as part of a rotation in the backfield. I am however quite shocked West is still getting a majority of the carries (even if by a slim margin). Having watched all of the carries to date (thanks NFL Rewind!) I think it is pretty clear who the best runner on the team is.

 
Tate doesn't look like the same player who appeared to be better than Arian Foster. He is not nearly as explosive, which was his calling card. Though he was better statistically, I didn't think he separated himself from West. So yeah, Crowell is going to take this thing over IMO.

 
biju said:
I'm not terribly concerned about Tate coming back. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy and I think he'll be on limited snaps going forward as part of a rotation in the backfield. I am however quite shocked West is still getting a majority of the carries (even if by a slim margin). Having watched all of the carries to date (thanks NFL Rewind!) I think it is pretty clear who the best runner on the team is.
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Trust. The team trusts West, he'll have gotten more reps in practice, and is potentially better in pass protection (last one's a guess, I don't watch entire Browns games).

 
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btemp said:
biju said:
I'm not terribly concerned about Tate coming back. He hasn't proven he can stay healthy and I think he'll be on limited snaps going forward as part of a rotation in the backfield. I am however quite shocked West is still getting a majority of the carries (even if by a slim margin). Having watched all of the carries to date (thanks NFL Rewind!) I think it is pretty clear who the best runner on the team is.
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Trust. The team trusts West, he'll have gotten more reps in practice, and is potentially better in pass protection (last one's a guess, I don't watch entire Browns games).
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crowell took over in the 2nd half of the raven game. he started the 2nd half and played on 18 snaps to west's 11. 2 snaps there was no rb. that is by my count. crowell played in all situations, including passing downs. it sure looks like he has forced at least a 5050 split and is trending to taking over the larger portion.

really is too bad that tate will be back soon. but realize, he may not be back after the bye. it could be a 4-6 week injury which could keep him out until week 7 or so. after watching the raven game, i would def be starting crowell over tate if i had the choice.

 
Given the rash of injuries at the RB position and suspect play throughout the league, I could see a team making a trade for Tate. His contract is very reasonable and the Browns suddenly are deep at the position.

 
saintfool said:
Given the rash of injuries at the RB position and suspect play throughout the league, I could see a team making a trade for Tate. His contract is very reasonable and the Browns suddenly are deep at the position.
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That is a great call.

 
Banger said:
saintfool said:
Given the rash of injuries at the RB position and suspect play throughout the league, I could see a team making a trade for Tate. His contract is very reasonable and the Browns suddenly are deep at the position.
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That is a great call.
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Sure seems like it right??

I kinda hope my Brownies did do something like that and got a decent pick. Some late crap like a 5th and I say hang on to Tate. It's a long long season.

 
I think Crowell took over second half because there was a mix up/blown play between West and Hoyer or at least that's what it looked like to me on the condensed highlights

 
aedenone said:
Dismattle said:
Oh its downright ugly (imho) Crowell looks the best of all of em, and still is 2nd fiddle OR anything but the bellcow..

Good things are worth waiting for though, and it should be quite the show!
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Just imagine how Christine Michael owners feel. At least Crowell is able to show what he can do in an actual game. I wonder if a Michael owner would trade for Crowell straight up...
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Yeahhh I believe that I drafted Christine, but anyway that's exactly why this situation is frustrating. Its a sorta been there and done that (still doing it, two fold now)

I guess the Panthers situation is worse.. No Play,, hairline fracture!! that's some bad luck

 
ghostguy123 said:
Banger said:
saintfool said:
Given the rash of injuries at the RB position and suspect play throughout the league, I could see a team making a trade for Tate. His contract is very reasonable and the Browns suddenly are deep at the position.
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That is a great call.
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Sure seems like it right??

I kinda hope my Brownies did do something like that and got a decent pick. Some late crap like a 5th and I say hang on to Tate. It's a long long season.
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His value is in direct proportion to what his perceived risky of injury is, i think. this may come down to the variance between FF and NFL. personally, i think teams would like to avoid drama, dischord in the locker room. in this day and age in the NFL RBs aren't valued the way they once were after all. get something for him and move on maybe.

 
Looks like somebody is on board



Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 10m
And now we are seeing some signs that #browns recognize what they have in him. May not take injuries for Crowell to climb that mountain.

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 1m
@OrdioMongo CLE looks like they may have the best running game in the league and crowell's talent can create its own opportunity

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 6m
with no remorse RT @Kripple1301 drop Gerhart for Crowell?

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 9m
crowell over tate, yes RT @DcmRulz even over Ben Tate? (In a league where someone just cut him)

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 12m
I don't know if events needed for Crowell to get lead role will unfold, but if they do, season-changer. FF RB1.

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 13m
If you're asking me Crowell or _____ on the WW this week, 99% answer is crowell. donald brown over him, that's about it.

 
Righetti said:
Looks like somebody is on board



Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 10m
And now we are seeing some signs that #browns recognize what they have in him. May not take injuries for Crowell to climb that mountain.

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 1m
@OrdioMongo CLE looks like they may have the best running game in the league and crowell's talent can create its own opportunity

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 6m
with no remorse RT @Kripple1301 drop Gerhart for Crowell?

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 9m
crowell over tate, yes RT @DcmRulz even over Ben Tate? (In a league where someone just cut him)

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 12m
I don't know if events needed for Crowell to get lead role will unfold, but if they do, season-changer. FF RB1.

Sigmund Bloom ‏@SigmundBloom 13m
If you're asking me Crowell or _____ on the WW this week, 99% answer is crowell. donald brown over him, that's about it.
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Bloom is banging the ever-loving poo out of the drum for Crowell. Love it!

 
I am all aboard the Cleveland run game, I was lucky enough to snag Crow off waivers for $3 this week, but now I have Tate, West, and Crow......LOL.

I think i might drop West.

From what I have seen, Crowell is a monster, hits the holes hard and is FAST. In a keeper league, he could be a monster steal

 
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The time to get the Crow was after his week one performance. Of course I missed on him, but if you own him,keep him.

If Pettine doesn't roll the Crow out for 18-22 touches a game, he's not as smart as I thought he was.

 
Got Crowell and West currently and Tate is sitting on the waivers having been dropped after his injury. Is it worth grabbing him and locking up the whole trio ? Don't have a lot of room so preferably not but will do it if it's a good idea

 
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TartanLion said:
Got Crowell and West currently and Tate is sitting on the waivers having been dropped after his injury. Is it worth grabbing him and locking up the whole trio ? Don't have a lot of room so preferably not but will do it if it's a good idea
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I'm in the same boat, I think it might be worth holding all 3 to see how this backfield plays out. The starting RB is going to be an every week RB1 behind that stellar O-line and revamped offense. I just pray to god that it doesn't turn into a Falcons backfield situation where nobody has any value.

 
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West 47/204/2 (4.3ypc) 4/27/0 receiving (6.75YPR)

Crow 27/141/3 (5.2ypc) 1/3/0 receiving (3.00YPR)

sample size is small but looks like both have value

 
saintfool said:
Given the rash of injuries at the RB position and suspect play throughout the league, I could see a team making a trade for Tate. His contract is very reasonable and the Browns suddenly are deep at the position.
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/agree!

Signed,

West+Crowell owner

 
ahartig said:
I am all aboard the Cleveland run game, I was lucky enough to snag Crow off waivers for $3 this week, but now I have Tate, West, and Crow......LOL.

I think i might drop West.

From what I have seen, Crowell is a monster, hits the holes hard and is FAST. In a keeper league, he could be a monster steal
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I would consider "What IF's" scenario's. The Odds of being able to reacquire West, may be steep. IF you truly want a piece of the Browns ground game. ie. West got a taste, and may have acquired a desire. Theres a chance someone provides a relief role, which enables other possibilities..

I dislike backups for pretty much what I listed too. But ya may need to pay a price to cover your base's, if ya want the Full experience, which is what Insurance provides (peace of mind).

TartanLion said:
Got Crowell and West currently and Tate is sitting on the waivers having been dropped after his injury. Is it worth grabbing him and locking up the whole trio ? Don't have a lot of room so preferably not but will do it if it's a good idea
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I would ask the Guru's on Twitter, and try an bump Tate threads (w/ any useful links) to gauge reaction(s) Im pretty sure you can disregard my beliefs, but Im not someone who would be too quick to dismiss a "healthy" B. Tate. When healthy, its not like a lot of other NFL Teams don't know the potential of Tate. (Yes, I did use the word potential which connotates the injury risk, along w/ performance)

I almost feel bad for these guys having two if not three RB's who have proven capable as NFL caliber RB(s).. LOL I still dunno what to believe about my Viking Rookie..

But yeah, Do you guys even consider going after or holding anyone besides Crowell?

 
Im taking too long too post here, but I suggest a well worded post involving both West and Tate (just my :2cents: )

We got Crowell backers in here who may not be so kind to talk of sharing/RBBC

 
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