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Isiah Pead>Darryl Richardson. (2 Viewers)

Waldman had a write up on him too last year maybe. He looked fantastic at MTSU while healthy, but he's got a rough hill to climb coming back from injury as a UFDA. He's still rehabbing and I'm curious if he can even participate in OTA's. If he can't I'm not sure how he'll stick. Definitely someone to keep an eye on though.
I caught that article. He looks like Shane Vereen. If he can get his 4.4 speed back he could end up starting. Hell of a gamble for nothing right now. I think I will take him late and Stacy with my late first in a few of my rookie drafts to try and own the whole backfield because I don't believe in Pead or Richardson.
 
Waldman had a write up on him too last year maybe. He looked fantastic at MTSU while healthy, but he's got a rough hill to climb coming back from injury as a UFDA. He's still rehabbing and I'm curious if he can even participate in OTA's. If he can't I'm not sure how he'll stick. Definitely someone to keep an eye on though.
I caught that article. He looks like Shane Vereen. If he can get his 4.4 speed back he could end up starting. Hell of a gamble for nothing right now. I think I will take him late and Stacy with my late first in a few of my rookie drafts to try and own the whole backfield because I don't believe in Pead or Richardson.
More like Ahmad Bradshaw. I think he ends up on PUP all year.

 
Waldman had a write up on him too last year maybe. He looked fantastic at MTSU while healthy, but he's got a rough hill to climb coming back from injury as a UFDA. He's still rehabbing and I'm curious if he can even participate in OTA's. If he can't I'm not sure how he'll stick. Definitely someone to keep an eye on though.
I caught that article. He looks like Shane Vereen. If he can get his 4.4 speed back he could end up starting. Hell of a gamble for nothing right now. I think I will take him late and Stacy with my late first in a few of my rookie drafts to try and own the whole backfield because I don't believe in Pead or Richardson.
More like Ahmad Bradshaw. I think he ends up on PUP all year.
http://www.dnj.com/article/20130719/BLUERAIDERS01/307190023/I guess we will know tommorow

 
Pead, Richardson and Stacy are all going to be very good RBs with each one adding a different dimention. But, I wouldn't touch any in FF. Neither one will see the majority of the reps to warrent a spot on a FF roster imo. Stacy might be the one who emerges though. Looks like a Martin or Ray Rice clone type of back. Pead has the tools to be a Shady McCoy type. But I think the Rams are going to run a spread and throw the ball all over the field with their new toys.

 
I don't like Pead even a little bit which makes this a really interesting situation to me.

Stacy is an all-round back, but maybe not quite good enough to hold a #1 job in the NFL. Richardson is a viable COP back. Ganaway is underrated and the only big back on the roster -- given the hype around Richardson and Stacy he's dead cheap and I think he's a nice WW flier/stash.

 
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I don't like Pead even a little bit which makes this a really interesting situation to me.

Stacy is an all-round back, but maybe not quite good enough to hold a #1 job in the NFL. Richardson is a viable COP back. Ganaway is underrated and the only big back on the roster -- given the hype around Richardson and Stacy he's dead cheap and I think he's a nice WW flier/stash.
His size is intriguing. He's limited to being a short yardage back because of his speed/agility. I can see him stealing TDs near the goal-line, which would kill Zac Stacy's value this year. That's something to watch for.
 
I don't like Pead even a little bit which makes this a really interesting situation to me.

Stacy is an all-round back, but maybe not quite good enough to hold a #1 job in the NFL. Richardson is a viable COP back. Ganaway is underrated and the only big back on the roster -- given the hype around Richardson and Stacy he's dead cheap and I think he's a nice WW flier/stash.
His size is intriguing. He's limited to being a short yardage back because of his speed/agility. I can see him stealing TDs near the goal-line, which would kill Zac Stacy's value this year. That's something to watch for.
He's as fast as Blount, Hillis and Michael Bush -- all guys who've had some success and who are broadly comparable. And Ganaway is a bit more athletic than those guys as well. I don't think he's a long-term starter or anything, but in a situation with no obvious talent he could carve out a FF relevant role.

 
Fisher: Richardson will likely be starting RB

Speaking Tuesday, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said he expects Daryl Richardson to be the Rams' starting running back.
Specifically, Fisher said he "(thinks) Daryl comes back as our starter." It's surprising Fisher would make such a strong statement before the Rams played so much as a preseason game, but we're not surprised after re-watching Richardson and Isaiah Pead's rookie-year tape. Despite his small-ish stature (5-foot-10, 195 pounds), Richardson is the Rams' toughest runner between the tackles, and proved last year he could get around the edge. Pead's one-game suspension also surely boosted Richardson's odds. The reality is, the "starter" could prove to be a nebulous thing for a team replacing Steven Jackson, but D-Rich is now indisputably the Rams back to own. His current ADP is 82.7, while Pead's is 133.7. Rookie Zac Stacy was never a realistic option to start.

Rotoworld
 
Fisher: Richardson will likely be starting RB

Speaking Tuesday, Rams coach Jeff Fisher said he expects Daryl Richardson to be the Rams' starting running back.
Specifically, Fisher said he "(thinks) Daryl comes back as our starter." It's surprising Fisher would make such a strong statement before the Rams played so much as a preseason game, but we're not surprised after re-watching Richardson and Isaiah Pead's rookie-year tape. Despite his small-ish stature (5-foot-10, 195 pounds), Richardson is the Rams' toughest runner between the tackles, and proved last year he could get around the edge. Pead's one-game suspension also surely boosted Richardson's odds. The reality is, the "starter" could prove to be a nebulous thing for a team replacing Steven Jackson, but D-Rich is now indisputably the Rams back to own. His current ADP is 82.7, while Pead's is 133.7. Rookie Zac Stacy was never a realistic option to start.

Rotoworld
Because he's getting the nod in week 1 of the PRE season?

:rolleyes:

:lol: :lmao:

I would be willing to wager that this play has a few more acts before it comes to a conclusion. And anyone want to take three guesses as to who Johnny U has on the trading block?

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
So 2 of 32? I like the odds of Richardson holding onto the job. Especially with how he played when given the chance last year.

 
I had Pead and Richardson and I feel so confident that Pead is the going to be the guy I moved D-rich in a trade and kept Pead by himself.

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I own none of the STL backs but with Pead out of the running for the starter week 1 I don't think it means much that he's the starter. If he plays well he'll certainly keep it, however being named the starter right now doesn't mean much with Pead suspended.

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....
That is obvious and your bias has been obvious too. All we have is now....and the question is, would you rather your guy be #1 or #2 right now. No silly answers allowed :thanks:
The answer is the same. I want the guy who starts in September. Now means nothing.

The guy at the top of the depth chart in Green Bay is Dujuan Harris. In a redraft league, would you trade Lacy for Harris straight up?

 
BTW, full disclosure. The only StL RB I own in any league is Gannaway in a very deep dynasty league. I grabbed him sometime last year. Only reason he is still on my team is because nothing more attractive has come across the WW yet. He is WW fodder. So I really have no dog in this race either, but I am a St. Louis homer.

 
BTW, full disclosure. The only StL RB I own in any league is Gannaway in a very deep dynasty league. I grabbed him sometime last year. Only reason he is still on my team is because nothing more attractive has come across the WW yet. He is WW fodder. So I really have no dog in this race either, but I am a St. Louis homer.
Full disclosure, I own all.

But I want the guy who destroyed the other guy on the practice field and games last year. For a 7th rd pick to get more game time means Richardson ran circles around the 2nd rd Pead last year in practice.

Nothing has changed the better player is atop the depth chart. Anyone pimping pead is only doing so because of his draft position. Had pead been the 7th rounder and Richardson the 2nd this wouldn't even be a topic.

 
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....
That is obvious and your bias has been obvious too. All we have is now....and the question is, would you rather your guy be #1 or #2 right now. No silly answers allowed :thanks:
The answer is the same. I want the guy who starts in September. Now means nothing.

The guy at the top of the depth chart in Green Bay is Dujuan Harris. In a redraft league, would you trade Lacy for Harris straight up?
Awe man...I even said :thanks: in advance
That response is no sillier than the original question.

 
FantasyTrader said:
Bazinga! said:
TheFanatic said:
Bazinga! said:
TheFanatic said:
Bazinga! said:
cstu said:
pizzatyme said:
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....
That is obvious and your bias has been obvious too. All we have is now....and the question is, would you rather your guy be #1 or #2 right now. No silly answers allowed :thanks:
The answer is the same. I want the guy who starts in September. Now means nothing.

The guy at the top of the depth chart in Green Bay is Dujuan Harris. In a redraft league, would you trade Lacy for Harris straight up?
Awe man...I even said :thanks: in advance
That response is no sillier than the original question.
Amen... Which is why I didn't dignify it with the silly answer he was hoping for.

I love that he didn't address the Dujuan Harris part of my question...

 
TheFanatic said:
Bazinga! said:
cstu said:
pizzatyme said:
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....
Wait a minute. In the David Wilson thread you love to show how the team website has made him the "starter" even though the coaching staff has made him a co-starter yet when the head coach states Richardson is the starter for the Rams it means nothing? So you know more than the head coach of these teams? LMAO, you're obviously looking through some seriously rose coloured glasses where everything is good for the players you own.

ETA - speaking to Fanatic here.

 
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Traded Richardson over the summer cause I didn't want to be part of the committee mess.

Feeling rather stupid about that now, even though it wasn't a bad deal.

 
Traded Richardson over the summer cause I didn't want to be part of the committee mess.

Feeling rather stupid about that now, even though it wasn't a bad deal.
I wouldn't feel bad about that. What's Richardson's ceiling? Pead will get looks, Stacy will likely get goalline carries, Austin will likely be in the backfield some of the time. I'm a Richardson owner, but have a tough time finding a situation where he breaks 1000 rushing yards or half a dozen touchdowns.

 
I wasn't impressed with either. Pead might be the worse back in the league. He looks so lost

 
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There’s a lot to look at in the Rams’ preseason opener, and nowhere is that more the case than running back. The first peek at life without Steven Jackson takes place at FirstEnergy Stadium tonight against the Cleveland Browns.

“I think Daryl (Richardson) and Isaiah (Pead) are the front-runners obviously,” said Terrance Ganaway, one of those backfield candidates. “Obviously drafting Zac (Stacy), there’s a lot of emphasis on him being able to produce early on for us. But I think it can go any way. Coach Fisher always says the best guy, regardless of anything, will be the guy.”

As Jeff Fisher noted Tuesday, Richardson enters the preseason as the starter, “because he played significantly more last year than anybody.” Not that it took much to earn that distinction. As rookies last season, Pead had 10 carries; Ganaway had none. Chase Reynolds was on the practice squad, while Stacy and Benjamin Cunningham are incoming rookies.

In comparison, Richardson looks like a grizzled vet with his 98 carries for 475 yards, the seventh highest rushing total among rookie running backs in the NFL last season.

Although Richardson is getting the first bite of the apple this preseason, the competition is just beginning, not ending.

“I view it as a close one,” Pead said. “We’re all even. We all want that spot. But we’re helping each other.”

Fisher agreed to an extent, saying, “We haven’t ruled anybody out.”

Along those lines, one of the more difficult tasks for Fisher over the course of the four preseason games is making sure every running back gets enough carries for a fair evaluation.

“You just have to sit down and give it some thought,” Fisher said. “Out of fairness to them, you want them all to have an opportunity to run behind the first line because that’s a fair evaluation, and run against good opponents. So, we’re gonna have to work that out the best we can.”

But game circumstances can derail the best-laid plans. For example, a couple of Rams turnovers may limit the team’s offensive opportunities in any particular game. The same holds true if the opposing offense has a big edge in time of possession.

After getting only those 10 carries (plus three receptions and 10 kickoff returns) in 2012, Pead is as hungry as anyone in the group to touch the football.

“Definitely,” said Pead, the Big East offensive player of the year in 2011 at Cincinnati. “I’m a football player. This is what we do. Unfortunately this is a business where you don’t play a lot sometimes in games. That’s what it is. But it’s a new year, new season, new opportunity, and I’m just trying to capitalize on every opportunity I get.”

Ganaway could make a similar claim. It wasn’t all Robert Griffin III during Baylor’s breakout 2011 college football season. Ganaway rushed for 1,547 yards and scored 22 touchdowns that season, setting or tying 12 school records in the process.

But after being claimed off waivers from the New York Jets last Sept. 2, Ganaway spent the entire 2012 season working with the scout team offense. That meant he was running the plays of the opposing team’s offense each week instead of running the Rams’ offense.

“Now, I get an opportunity to make myself look good, and make the coaches see what I bring to the table,” Ganaway said.

Easily the biggest back in the Rams’ backfield stable at 6-foot-1, 240 pounds, Ganaway worked on his quickness and footwork over the offseason.

“Our running back coach, Coach (Ben) Sirmans is always emphasizing quick feet,” Ganaway said. “To be a great back, you don’t have to be a 4.3 guy, you don’t have to be a big bruiser. You’ve just got to be quick in the hole. You watch around the league, and that’s true.”

Richardson has worked on his pass-catching and pass protection, among other things. Almost every day before practice, he can be found catching balls out of the JUGs machine.

“The pass pro’s going pretty good,” Richardson noted. “You’ve just got to learn, and gotta know what’s coming.”

Pead, who is suspended for the regular season opener for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy, has worked as much on the mental aspect of the game as the physical part.

“Stop making rookie mistakes and grow up and be a factor to this team,” Pead said. “I took a lot of mistakes that I made from last year and replayed them in my head. Learned from them. Talked to an older person, whether it be a coach or player or someone that doesn’t have anything to do with football.”

For rookies Cunningham and Stacy, tonight marks their first exposure to an NFL game, albeit the preseason variety. It’s unclear if Stacy, the fifth-round pick from Vanderbilt, will see action. He missed part of Monday’s practice and didn’t practice Tuesday. According to league sources, he was being rested for general soreness.

Which adds just another wrinkle to the Rams’ most intriguing position battle.

“We’ve got to step up,” Ganaway said. “This is a game about making plays, and being a guy that helps the team win. I think all of our running backs can do that.”

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/running-backs-in-spotlight-for-rams/article_0eb0da0e-89a9-5038-950f-b3190f0f9e3f.html
 
It's obvious that Pead should be 3rd on the depth chart right now. Bit to some, that just means he is the obvious starter! :rolleyes:

 
I didn't watch the whole game - didn't see Stacy or if Cunningham even played. Richardson looked solid to me, though.

 
Man did Richardson look good last night. I might be coming around on this one. Although Pead had a wicked good pass block, putting the LB on his back.

 
TheFanatic said:
Bazinga! said:
cstu said:
pizzatyme said:
So, it's a bad thing that Richardson is the week one starter?

How many preseason week 1 starting RBs ended up not starting the regular season (outside of injury) last year or in the last 5 years?
Just last year Donald Brown and Kevin Smith were starters week 1.
You didn't answer the question.....your bias is obvious and it is causing you to take silly positions. I own both, but if I only had one of them I would want my guy to be #1 right now
I'd want my guy to be #1 in September, but hey, that's just me....
Wait a minute. In the David Wilson thread you love to show how the team website has made him the "starter" even though the coaching staff has made him a co-starter yet when the head coach states Richardson is the starter for the Rams it means nothing? So you know more than the head coach of these teams? LMAO, you're obviously looking through some seriously rose coloured glasses where everything is good for the players you own.

ETA - speaking to Fanatic here.
We all know the coaching staff has named DW the starter. They are playing lipservice to keep all the RB's eager and motivated.

This situation is different in that the competition for #1RB is a lot closer. The Andre Brown owners wish the Giants situation was this close. It's not. I saw Richardson as more of a COP back and Pead more of a workhorse back, but after that display last night, who knows? Starting to wonder. I traded Richardson last year for the pick that became Leveon Bell and would still do that today, but man did he look good last night...

 
It's obvious that Pead should be 3rd on the depth chart right now. Bit to some, that just means he is the obvious starter! :rolleyes:
Who should be ahead of him? Stacy the guy that bombed against 3rd stringers?

Fumbles are awful but it was preseason and outside of that Pead had a couple nice runs and made a great block.

 
It's obvious that Pead should be 3rd on the depth chart right now. Bit to some, that just means he is the obvious starter! :rolleyes:
Who should be ahead of him? Stacy the guy that bombed against 3rd stringers?

Fumbles are awful but it was preseason and outside of that Pead had a couple nice runs and made a great block.
I think that either Richardson or Pead will be a great late round pickup and produce far above their draft position depending on who wins the job. Fischer really wants 1 guy I think... and at this point Richardson is ahead.

Should be the most interesting battle for me to watch this preseason and I want the starter there!

 
After what I saw, I'm not sure I want any of the three-headed monster back there. It looks like when SJax went to Atlanta, he took all the playbook pages with runs along with him.

 
It's obvious that Pead should be 3rd on the depth chart right now. Bit to some, that just

means he is the obvious starter! :rolleyes:
Who should be ahead of him? Stacy the guy that bombed against 3rd stringers?Fumbles are awful but it was preseason and outside of that Pead had a couple nice runs and made a great block.
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Check Fisher's track record on fumbles. At least Stacy didn't fumble. ;)

 
I picked up Pead late this year to stash on my Practice Squad, but honestly I don't have much faith in him.

I had him stashed last year, just in case, and didn't see much at all. I tried to watch every rush he had last year on Rewind, and if memory serves, the only time I was impressed was in that blowout loss the Pats mid-season. It was 40-something to 7 and Pead got in the game. He had 2 runs to the left, I think, and gained around 20 yards total.

Maybe there's a Pead fan here who can remind me of something I'm forgetting, but I don't remember him doing ANYthing to make me think he's going to move ahead of Richardson this year.

I'm just hoping he'll be "serviceable", or maybe step his game up and impress Fisher with his blocking and maybe gain play time. I'm sure not betting on his running, so far.

 
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Richardson is way too small. He got nailed on every carry in the Browns game.

I'm convinced Pead doesn't like the NFL grind anymore. He's just there. It happens. He can't even field a kick.

Benny Cunningham and Zac Stacy look jacked up since I've seen them last.

 
Richardson is way too small. He got nailed on every carry in the Browns game.

I'm convinced Pead doesn't like the NFL grind anymore. He's just there. It happens. He can't even field a kick.

Benny Cunningham and Zac Stacy look jacked up since I've seen them last.
As a Richardson owner, I am keeping an eye on Cunningham. Pead's a bum. Stacy's a fumbler.

 
According to FFC, Richardson's ADP is already rising. He's gone up a round (7.07 to 6.07) in the past month and half a round in the past few days. He's also the most drafted (indicating people are picking him instead of it falling to the computer) back after Sproles at 4.01, indicating his ADP will continue to rise.

 
Pead just doesn't give a #### anymore. He'll float around for a year or two until he's known around the league as a quitter.

Cunningham's getting some good reviews so far. Stacy's been dinged up, D-Rich is D-Rich, and Ganaway has been nonexistent.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Richardson is way too small. He got nailed on every carry in the Browns game.

I'm convinced Pead doesn't like the NFL grind anymore. He's just there. It happens. He can't even field a kick.

Benny Cunningham and Zac Stacy look jacked up since I've seen them last.
You have no idea what you're talking about. At all. From NFL.com - Richardson 5'10" 196, CJ Spiller 5'11" 200, Chris Johnson 5'11" 191, Jamaal Charles 5'11" 199. No significant differences there. Are they too small? Don't come back and start talking skills this and not the same player blah, blah, blah. Your statement is Richardson is way too small. Haters gonna hate I guess.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Richardson is way too small. He got nailed on every carry in the Browns game.

I'm convinced Pead doesn't like the NFL grind anymore. He's just there. It happens. He can't even field a kick.

Benny Cunningham and Zac Stacy look jacked up since I've seen them last.
You have no idea what you're talking about. At all. From NFL.com - Richardson 5'10" 196, CJ Spiller 5'11" 200, Chris Johnson 5'11" 191, Jamaal Charles 5'11" 199. No significant differences there. Are they too small? Don't come back and start talking skills this and not the same player blah, blah, blah. Your statement is Richardson is way too small. Haters gonna hate I guess.
He's not too small in the sense that RBs that size can't succeed. But, he is too small given his speed at that size. The thing that separates Richardson from the 3 guys you listed is that those 3 guys have elite speed (sub 4.35 times) whereas Richardson ran a 4.47. I brought this up elsewhere and his prospects as a sub-200 lb RB at his speed are very poor. There's no doubt he has looked good at times, but if you're that small then you need to have exceptional speed to be a lasting RB at that level and he simply doesn't have that.

So yeah, unless he's now a sub 4.4 guy, he is too small.

 

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