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What did I post that makes you think I want him to be dirty? Come on. Show your work.
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It's been a great run Peyton - now enjoy retirement.. (1 Viewer)
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Hooper31
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Hang 10
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Hooper31
Footballguy
I think your joke indicates your preference. And name calling? Why defensive? And what team do you root for?It was a joke, numbnutz.
Hang 10
Footballguy
I don't dislike, Peyton Manning. I like a team in the Redskins that has never had any kind of rivalry with the Colts or Broncos. But most a time when an athlete is accused of using PEDs, it's true. So it wouldn't surprise me if a competitive guy like Manning would do everything in his power to come back from his neck injury.I think your joke indicates your preference. And name calling? Why defensive? And what team do you root for?
Give it a rest detective hooper. Why worry yourself over whether he wants Manning to be found guilty or not? That benefits you about as much as wishing guilt on Manning would benefit him. Who cares? The forehead thing was pretty obviously a joke.I think your joke indicates your preference. And name calling? Why defensive? And what team do you root for?
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Give it a rest detective hooper. Why worry yourself over whether he wants Manning to be found guilty or not? That benefits you about as much as wishing guilt on Manning would benefit him. Who cares? The forehead thing was pretty obviously a joke.I think your joke indicates your preference. And name calling? Why defensive? And what team do you root for?
I think it's untrue, but don't care if it isn't. HGH is legally prescribed for anti-aging purposes and a construction worker could have it prescribed if he was trying to recover from the same neck injury. The NFL is filled with 250 lb guys with 7% bodyfat. 90% of them are roided up. Jack Lambert was a dominant MLB in the 70's at 205 pounds. He'd be the size of a corner back or punter in today's game. That's not because today's players are making whey protein shakes. Manning is built like the guy in our work mailroom. If he took something, it was to heal a potential career ending injury. Not to be able to lay someone out or outrun them. Like I said though, the guy saying he made it all up tells me it's most likely just BS.
Insomniac
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Sly is claiming he made it up and you're just going to take that at face value?
It is clear that Sly was providing drugs to Liam Collins and the MLB fringe player Taylor Teagarden because they are on video. He also made claims that he provided them to other players. It's possible he was just dropping names in the video and in reality his customers were a bunch of unknowns. Hopefully an appropriate law enforcement agency will investigate Sly and the other suppliers seen in the hidden camera videos.
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The General
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Just listened to a radio interview with "an NFL insider" type and he was killing Manning for coming out and saying he had nothing to do with this, all lies, etc. Said it keeps it in the news and keeps the story going. Said he should have said nothing or no comment.
Same guy would have taken the exact opposite position I'm sure if Peyton did exactly that. Media is so predictable when it comes to scandals.
Same guy would have taken the exact opposite position I'm sure if Peyton did exactly that. Media is so predictable when it comes to scandals.
SaintsInDome2006
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So I heard a little about Charles Sly (sp?) on the radio and like it's mentioned above he has recanted, and he said it was a ploy to see if he could trust the guy he was working with in terms of keeping names and information secret. But apparently he had this conversation, which was recorded, 2 years ago? Does this really make sense?
IvanKaramazov
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I'm a big fan of Peyton Manning, and I still chuckled at the forehead joke.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
It does not look like Peyton takes any supplements legal or illegal. Maybe he should.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Yep
And frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
I assume football players are using something. Maybe it's legal, maybe not. I want to see the best product for entertainment. To use a pothead quote, "legalize it"
massraider
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I think if it is proven that she received HGH from a athlete recovery company, it won't matter if he took them or not. Court of public opinion verdict will be unanimous.
In order to believe this story, you have to believe the following:
- Manning, and whoever thought HGH was the way to go, thought mailing it in his wife's name would be all they would need to do to throw any potential investigators off the trail. Whatever you think of Manning, he's not dumb, and mailing stuff like this to your wife would be monumentally stupid. He would have been better off mailing it to Chick N. Parm, care of Nationwide Insuarance.
- The company in question, was so cavalier with the info of who it was supplying that an intern (named SLY, for pete's sake) had full knowledge of who was receiving it, and apparently who their front person was.
if that's an anti-aging clinic, just as many women use HGH than men do. Ask Suzanne Somers. She's written about five books about it. If she's approaching 40, nothing crazy at all about thinking she takes it.
Run It Up
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Idk why anyone would lean on Sly recanting. He's either a liar and he's recanting to save his face legally in which case you can't trust him because he's a liar. Or, he's not lying and he's attempting to save his reputation as a distributor.
It was his only out as someone who was caught on video secretly.
It was his only out as someone who was caught on video secretly.
massraider
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He was an intern. That's like calling ball boys coaches.Run It Up said:
Run It Up
Footballguy
He's a doctor of pharmacy. He was an intern at the time he worked at the Guyer clinic but at the time of the documentary he was a doctor of pharmacy - whether he had his doctorate at the time he was working at Guyer is another thing entirely that I'm unaware of, but its disingenuous to claim that he isn't a distributor or liken it to a ballboy, he is absolutely at the middle of this ####, whether was an intern at that time or not.
The stuff he was recorded admitting to was the same stuff people were doing at the Guyer clinic, according to his statements while being recorded secretly.
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Baloney Sandwich
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Al Jezeera's reporter (Davies) said on MSNBC today that they have confirmation from Manning's own camp that Ashley Manning received shipments of HGH which certainly explains the odd response from Peyton about his wife.
Run It Up
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Al Jazeera also says they have a recorded phone call with the Guyer clinic where they confirm that Sly worked there in 2011.
Video of said phone call
Video of said phone call
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Sabertooth
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It's time to pass the torch
You're too old to rock
No more rocking for you
We're taking you to a home
But we will sing a song about you.
You're too old to rock
No more rocking for you
We're taking you to a home
But we will sing a song about you.
Hang 10
Footballguy
This is definitely where I'm at. Why would his wife (likely in her 30's) need HGH? It's highly suspicious.
did that link reveal something we haven't known already for a day or two?
Workhorse
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I don't recall anyone reporting that there could be a criminal probe of Peyton coming from all of this. That was news to me.
Braktastic
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Peyton wants so desperately to still be relevant he can't help but get his huge forehead out there in front of the cameras whether it is a good idea or not.
Full disclosure: I don't like Peyton Mannning. Personally, I don't care if a Denver Broncos backup quarterback took performance enhancing drugs; but if this "scandal" has a chance to shame away the incessant Papa Johns and Nationwide ads this has been keeps shoving down my throat I'm game.
Joe Summer
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Their "source" is a consultant who used to work as a federal prosecutor. He's not connected to the case in any way, and he probably doesn't know any more than we do. He's just engaging in speculation. He's the equivalent of an ex-coach working on one of those ESPN halftime shows.
Also, HGH is legal if prescribed by a physician. Whether it be him or his wife. If it was for him, it's against NFL laws, but not illegal.Unless the clinic doesn't have licenced physicians and the entire place is under investigation.
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themeanmachine
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massraider
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There's only three legal reasons to be prescribed HGH, and all are for very serious conditions.
If his wife had none of these, that's pretty bad.
If his wife had none of these, that's pretty bad.
Read up on HRT. HGH is often prescribed for having a low IGF-1 level. Which anyone, male or female, is likely to have past the age of 35. It's a billion dollar industry. Suzanne Somers is pretty much the spokeswoman for it. She swears by it. Low IGF-1 levels are far from a serious condition. It's a natural part of aging. My girlfriend can walk into any of about ten anti-aging clinics that I'm aware of and get a prescription for HGH tomorrow. It is great for restoring elasticity to the skin (fewer wrinkles), Making your body more efficient in the way it handles your metabolism and distributes fat, and repairing cells. Essentially, all the things your body used to be great at when you were 25. Problem is, it costs about $1000 for a month's supply and insurance won't cover it. That's why it's usually only wealthy folks that use it. But guys like Sylvester Stallone live on the stuff. And it's perfectly legal. They can afford it. I'm sure Peyton Manning's wife can too.
And as I said upthread, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Peyton took some when he was recovering from his neck surgery. It would have allowed him to heal like a 20 year-ld. Just look at how recovery times for ACL repairs have shortened. This isn't hard to figure out why. There is no testing for HGH. It is very difficult and expensive to test for. But it doesn't give you a competitive advantage on the playing field. Unless you're taking enormous amounts aof it, it's not going to build muscle. It might lean you out and lower bodyfat percentage, but not give you strength. The reason Stallone still looks ripped at 70 is from combining HGH with a boatload of testosterone and steroids. (something HGH is not)
bostonfred
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The football version of Barry Bonds. Would've been a HoFer even without cheating, but the obsession with success led them down the wrong path. They got the success they were after, but with their character forever in question
Please, don't forget this supposed "football version" list you're compiling includes your little golden Tommy Boy.
lol. Brady fans are the most insecure people in the earth.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
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