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TartanLion
Footballguy
Whisenhunt will stick with Locker for now if he is fit.
So far he's had one good outing against a middling team.
One bad outing against a team that doesn't have a great defence
And one bad outing against what might be the best team in the NFL right now on their own patch. A team that looks like it has a superb defence.
So there's really only one proper turd in there.
The options behind him aren't too appealing either.
Locker should be given a bigger amount of time to find some consistency and have a run without major injury because he has flashed ability in the past only to have his progress halted prematurely
So far he's had one good outing against a middling team.
One bad outing against a team that doesn't have a great defence
And one bad outing against what might be the best team in the NFL right now on their own patch. A team that looks like it has a superb defence.
So there's really only one proper turd in there.
The options behind him aren't too appealing either.
Locker should be given a bigger amount of time to find some consistency and have a run without major injury because he has flashed ability in the past only to have his progress halted prematurely
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good post and agree, they need to give him a few more starts at a minimum b/f giving up on him.
Well Whisenhunt said he'd stick with him in the post game presser linked a few posts before.
He has two bad outings, that is some huge sugar-coating-one was statistically the worst of his career and half of it may be the worst performance by a QB this season when all is said N done.
The options behind him are a not that good QB that is coach's pet and a rookie who led the NFL in passing yards in preseason-a late pick with some issues not an indication of some future franchise QB but I suppose maybe. I don't disagree that neither are appealing in some ways. I like Mettenberger alot and am admittedly basing way too much on a single preseason performance.
The thing is that this offense was built for a QB to be a part of. It wasn't like Jake's team and it's filled with his guys and Welker no Amendola no Edelman all seem to be interchangeable parts as Brady's toys.
They have a good line that could be very good like many Titans lines have over the years.
They have a just OK veteran back, a battering ram FB and a nice looking rookie RB.
They have a super quick small WR that NFL CBs stopped covering and instead hit him after he catches it-whenever they change and cover him, he scoots right past em'. He offers a very unique skillset and had a ton of catches last year.
They have a blessed youngster opposite him that is a prototype WR in today's game. He can do it all and hasn't done it all and hasn't done everything well in a game yet, but he offers a huge amount of hope. If he falters and/or either gets tired, they have a good veteran to fill in.
They have a TE that had the game of his life recently and looks to have improved tremendously. He played so well people forgot about Thompson whom was an up N comer not long ago.
They have arguably the best blocking TE in football.
They have a dynamic talent that can play WR or RB here n there.
They have a creative offensive coach and offensive coordinator that can genuinely adjust and makeup impressive game plans.
A QB is needed, a stud QB isn't.
It doesn't really matter if it's some ball control mistake free type or some gun slinger with a big arm. The other pieces are there.
The more you break things down, the more Locker is the sore point. There were issues last year with certain players and horrible OC and...they're all gone.
I do figure he gets more starts but I think the hook is looming.
Mettenberger lighting the world on fire(unlikely) I suppose is the only reason he won't get more chances to fail.
Like I said earlier though, there comes a point that this comes onto Whisenhunt too and he is at risk to lose his job. I highly doubt he will go 2-14 and coaching some high draft pick next year. He's gotta win some to earn that better luck next year support from the owner and GM. This can easily be twisted to "you are on offensive guru and your O has been brutal."
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
I've given up on him. Moving on with Bortles.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
After watching Whitehurst on Sunday, I have a feeling that Locker will make a rapid recovery.
Saint
Footballguy
Whisenhunt interview on Titansonline sounds like it's possible Locker could play this week. If you said he is putting it out there so the Skins prepare for him(as if he's a top QB) and not going to play til next week...I'd buy that.
It's titled something like last thoughts before Washington game.
In summary, he's done a bunch in practice this week and is still sore, but he's made progress.
It's titled something like last thoughts before Washington game.
In summary, he's done a bunch in practice this week and is still sore, but he's made progress.
Bobbyn2022
Footballguy
I hope he plays. The guy I'm playing has whitehurts starting with foles on a bye in a 2 QB league no other QBs on the wire.
Titans have to add a qb now, right? Some journeyman for a couple games?
No one is going to learn the offense that quick, so sign someone for the entertainment of the fans. An old guy is interesting, but some athletic mobile type that ad libbed in college would be more fun IMO.
Take care jake. One of few qbs that there's no doubt he got a fair shake with plenty of opportunities and busted. It's rather nice that the offseason won't be what if he....or the team.... we all have come to the same conclusion
No one is going to learn the offense that quick, so sign someone for the entertainment of the fans. An old guy is interesting, but some athletic mobile type that ad libbed in college would be more fun IMO.
Take care jake. One of few qbs that there's no doubt he got a fair shake with plenty of opportunities and busted. It's rather nice that the offseason won't be what if he....or the team.... we all have come to the same conclusion
Dinkle Heimer
Footballguy
Poor guy. I'm acquainted with Jake and his dad; he's a great guy. Really wanted to see him succeed; and it seems injuries ruined it more than anything.
I was someone that thought he would pan out. I like his style of running to keep plays alive and run N throw. I just don't think he got any better since his rookie year. Maybe some, but its minimal.
The one part of his game I couldn't stand was how often wideouts have to have their feet stuck and he doesn't hit them timing it or leading them.
Last year, he lost all nerve in that offense and threw possibly the fewest routes over the center of the field. He fell in love w the short passes to wright and nate and wouldn't take a risk until he finally did and it was an INT
The one part of his game I couldn't stand was how often wideouts have to have their feet stuck and he doesn't hit them timing it or leading them.
Last year, he lost all nerve in that offense and threw possibly the fewest routes over the center of the field. He fell in love w the short passes to wright and nate and wouldn't take a risk until he finally did and it was an INT
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
"Hurt Locker" is the most sadly appropriate NFL nickname ever.
squistion
Footballguy
He never seemed to catch a break. Perhaps he is really as bad as his critics have claimed, but with the injuries it is one of those things that we will probably never know for sure. He will try to catch on somewhere as a journeyman backup, so maybe he could resurface as a starter somewhere down the line, but it doesn't look too promising.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Loved watching him at my alma mater. From what I know of him, he is a great person. His lack of accuracy and QB smarts, moreso than his propensity for injury, sunk his pro career. I was hoping the professional coaching could correct some of his deficiencies, but alas......
Best wishes for his future.
Best wishes for his future.
Louche
Footballguy
I think it's hard to evaluate anyone properly when they're injured as often as Locker has been, and I think it's hard to show progress under those conditions. In the first four weeks of last season, before he got injured, he looked great. In those weeks he had 6 TDs, 0 INTs, he had a rushing TD and generally looked like an exciting player. The Titans went 3 and 1 in that stretch, beating the Chargers, Jets and Steelers. But then he got injured, only played a few games the rest of the season, and fell right back in the always injured bust category.
You write that he fell in love with the short passing game and lost his nerve in that offense. I don't know about that...his average depth of target was the 5th highest in the NFL last year at 9.9 which puts him in the same region as Cutler, Palmer and Foles so I'm not sure that's accurate. Even this season he's had a 10.1 average so there's nothing that says that he's timid and afraid to let it rip. He hasn't been particularly accurate or effective in the deep passing game, but he's been chucking it down there. The only QB that has consistently had more deep passes than him over the last couple of seasons is Nick Foles.
It's ridiculous how often he gets injured. Either he has been extremely unlucky or his body just doesn't seem to be built to play in the NFL. I think he has shown in flashes that there is something there and things might have been very different if he hadn't gotten injured all the time, but it is what it is. He seems to only be getting praise from the Titans coaching crew in terms of being a real pro and he commands tons of respect in the locker room. So yeah, he's obviously a bust but not in the way that he has shown a complete lack of talent or ability.
You seem to have missed "center of field".
Game chart not stats or look at play by play.
Zero passes to deep center or mid-center, sometimes just one.
Pair a QB who couldn't stay healthy if he played in a bubble with one of the worst teams in the league at offering the QB protection. That makes sense.
When Loggains was there, he was in a throw a zillion short passes type offense. He lost his nerve to make a hard throw and it bugged me.Tool said:
Throwing quick and not giving him time to overthink....it might work.
Locker is very very good on the run and at running. He only showed it in TEN in preseason and when games were so far gone. He's got some Elway in him, lil bit, where he can run pretty quick and just gun a pass at the TE. It was never used. They took the run away because he got hurt when they probably should have discussed sliding and forced him to watch Cam Newton, Brady and countless others that slide well. In the pocket, they wanted him to throw it away rather than "run for his life."
IMO If there's a play that's a guy's bread N butter, ya gotta let him do it. It fires him up and the O looked decent when he did too.
If Kelly can offer him some runs, I'll be curious how he turns out. If he just sits in the pocket, I expect many INTs.
A running Locker MIGHT be a reliever type if they let him run. He might be the guy that could have that mindset and get ya a game winning drive but yet isn't a franchise QB that starts each week. This is the only time the Titans had a determined QB since Young's rookie year; otherwise they just had cogs in a machine.
He's a much better runner than I imagine people expect
Louche
Footballguy
I don't think Chip Kelly view Foles as the long term QB in PHI. Foles isn't the type of QB that is perfectly suited for Kelly's offense. He can function adequately but one would think that Kelly is looking for a QB that is more dynamic. And if that is their position then it would make sense to bring in as much competition/talent at QB as they can.
For Locker it would for sure be one of the best places for him to sign, both in terms of his skill set and opportunity to fight for a starting job, but I wouldn't read too much into it. I don't think their search for a franchise QB ends there, and I'm curious to see if PHI takes a QB in the early rounds of the draft.
For Locker it would for sure be one of the best places for him to sign, both in terms of his skill set and opportunity to fight for a starting job, but I wouldn't read too much into it. I don't think their search for a franchise QB ends there, and I'm curious to see if PHI takes a QB in the early rounds of the draft.
Insein
Footballguy
Louche
Footballguy
It's certainly something I've felt ever since Kelly inherited Foles. I traded away all my Foles shares last offseason. That being said Foles is still the heavy favorite to be the starter come September, but it's an interesting situation to monitor.
rockaction
Footballguy
On a day full of surprises, Locker's retirement announcement was very surprising, even if it took back seat to other news.
Top quarterback on the market just decides not to play anymore. Wow.
Retires at 26.
Top quarterback on the market just decides not to play anymore. Wow.
Retires at 26.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Sorry Raider Nation, you stuck through thick and thin for this guy. Hope Bortles doesn't end up retiring in a couple years. Thanks for not pimping the #Carrshow.
