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Javon Walker found unconscious off LV strip (1 Viewer)
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RavensUNFL
Footballguy
I am the first to say we are too hard on football players for how they live in the off season (Like the Leinhart story), however, I do not see how anyone can stick up for Walker's actions here. When the coach is saying he is not in football shape, that means he is probably way the hell out of shape, cause coaches (Unless it is Parcells) always try to put a positive spin on stuff. So here you have a player that was just GIVEN a $55 million dollar contact that he didn't deserve (in mho it should have been chock-full of incentives so he would at least have to play to earn it), and this fool who is being outplayed by just about every wr'er in camp is out doing this instead of trying to prove the team made a good investment. I have no sympathy for him, I hope this does allow the Raiders to get out of this contact and dump this jerk-off. I hated this move from the start and everything I thought was wrong with it, Walker is proving to be true. I bet Shanahan is home laughing his ### off and thinking he got the Raiders again. After the past 5 years of sucking after Callahan choked away a Super bowl, I keep hoping the Raiders will do the right thing, but until Al Davis dies, we will continue to suck and make stupid choices when it comes to player personnel.
fatness
Footballguy
On this board it is.
Foosball God
Foos
This was under appreciated.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
LOLI do not think getting mugged is a crime
Polyethylene Bag
Footballguy
If you're as rich as Javon, you're a target. It's unfortunate that this happenned and I wish Javon well, but hopefully he and others in the NFL can learn from his mistake.
fatness
Footballguy
MVN.com story on Walker
The story is a combination of information and speculation for what that's worth ----- speculation about the extent of Walker's injuries and information about what those injuries may mean.
The story is a combination of information and speculation for what that's worth ----- speculation about the extent of Walker's injuries and information about what those injuries may mean.
joffer
Footballguy
you've got quite a future here
aka He got knocked the f out :(
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
That's just awesome. I hope Walker has a speedy recovery.
Manster
Footballguy
orbital fractures are usually associated with being punched really hard in the eye. good times.
****Rumor**** Sports talk radio in Denver this morning reporting that Javon was spraying champagne the night Darent Williams was killed also. Apparently some of the gang thugs were none to happy with Javon and his champagne antics and it escalated into the open fire on the limo that killed Williams.My take: Javon appears to have the disease known as alcoholism. I hope he gets help.Javon was a free agent. Shanahan did not get anybody. I'm sure Shanny's main concern is for the welfare of his former player.
RBM
Footballguy
How about a little maturity?
Wu-banger
Footballguy
That wouldnt surprise me one bit...Mayweather and his circus of buddies are A+ a-holes.I seen them at an after party in AC a few years ago trash a party hosted by FunkMaster Flex.... it started when Floyd's crew attacked two uniformed police officers...(one was a female)That started a brawl for about a half hour until the swat team got there....Monday morning , they were still cleaning the blood stains off walls and carpets......and it was all because a bouncer would not let a 17 year old member of Maywearthers group get into the 21 + event.Even before that they were walking around acting like punks...
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They realize their career is over?
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
There's a whole lot of just world hypothesis going on in this thread. How about showing a little compassion and empathy for the victim of a violent assault?
From what I've seen in this thread, based on my amateur medical opinion, I think JW will be extremely lucky if he doesn't miss the entire 2008 season due to this injury. Even if he is fortunate and recovers quickly, his knee is still a significant concern. He's officially off my draft board.
I wish him the best of luck on his recovery.
From what I've seen in this thread, based on my amateur medical opinion, I think JW will be extremely lucky if he doesn't miss the entire 2008 season due to this injury. Even if he is fortunate and recovers quickly, his knee is still a significant concern. He's officially off my draft board.
I wish him the best of luck on his recovery.
Oh please, don't come on here acting like Javon was the victim of some random act of violence. I'm sure his behavior and personal choices that night somehow played a part in the end result.
PranksterJD
Footballguy
Just because he was stupid doesn't mean he deserved it.
another note. when the the shooting happened here in Denver, Javon was really messed up mentally. the shooting happened right in front of him and he held Williams when he was dead. He couldn't talk about it for something like six months, and even then he struggled. Now, he is robbed (beaten down). yet another extreme event to mess with him mentally. Regardless of how bad his injury is, I bet the mental part will mess him up more than anything. He doesn't seem like the Strong personalty type that can recover from this (not an insult, just an observation) I don't mean strong personality as far as outgoing, I mean mentaly tough.
fantasy wise, I wouldn't count on him for anything, regardless if he is healed or not. I could see him falling apart IMO.
fantasy wise, I wouldn't count on him for anything, regardless if he is healed or not. I could see him falling apart IMO.
Well, I guess I'm not as charitable as you wonderful people are. I can live with that.
1. I don't think we'll ever really know the full story on this one.
2. Dude's been in too many "wrong place, wrong time" events.
3. Karma's a biotch. So glad Denver cut his malcontented butt.
4. Even happier the Raiders picked him up and overpaid him. Good luck with that.
5. I believe his behavior contributed to this. No, I do NOT believe this is as random mugging. Yes, this is speculation. Again, see #2. See the story. Lots of rich people party in Vegas. Darn few have this happen to them.
6. Yes, I think the press is too intrusive on athletes. I think the whole Leinhart thing was absolutely ridiculous. Having said that, I believe this guy is bad news. I don't like him. Guy has shown repeatedly to be a "me first" malcontent and the whole Darrent Wiliams thing stinks too.
7. Would not be surprised if somebody dropped him out of a car at that location. I've done that trip from the HR. That's a hell of a jaunt. Drunk or not, wouldn't be suprised if they picked him up, popped him a couple, robbed him (or not) and then dumped him.
8. Again, I don't think we'll ever know the full story here. That's only going to add to the speculation. But something's fishy.
1. I don't think we'll ever really know the full story on this one.
2. Dude's been in too many "wrong place, wrong time" events.
3. Karma's a biotch. So glad Denver cut his malcontented butt.
4. Even happier the Raiders picked him up and overpaid him. Good luck with that.
5. I believe his behavior contributed to this. No, I do NOT believe this is as random mugging. Yes, this is speculation. Again, see #2. See the story. Lots of rich people party in Vegas. Darn few have this happen to them.
6. Yes, I think the press is too intrusive on athletes. I think the whole Leinhart thing was absolutely ridiculous. Having said that, I believe this guy is bad news. I don't like him. Guy has shown repeatedly to be a "me first" malcontent and the whole Darrent Wiliams thing stinks too.
7. Would not be surprised if somebody dropped him out of a car at that location. I've done that trip from the HR. That's a hell of a jaunt. Drunk or not, wouldn't be suprised if they picked him up, popped him a couple, robbed him (or not) and then dumped him.
8. Again, I don't think we'll ever know the full story here. That's only going to add to the speculation. But something's fishy.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Look up "just world hypothesis." You're applying it to perfection.
Phurfur
Footballguy
I am talking about "Common Sense" not if he deserved it.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Charitable? That's a new word for it. You people that sit in judgement of other people(like Rush Limbaugh) and pass judgement without knowing the facts are :X He deserves what he got? Nice. That's just about the most ignorant thing I ever heard.
Actually, what's "ignorant" is bashing statements neither introduced nor asserted.
wasted space 25
Footballguy
First of all......... Im sorry for my STUPID posts last night. I owe an apology to massraider. I was Javon Walker DRUNK last night while posting so im sorry for coming at you how i did. From now on i will conduct myself in the right way here. I have been reading these boards for almost a year now before joining and i thinks its the best board around. That being said................ I do know pretty much the whole story here. I cant say how i know this for certain reasons but this was not Javon's fault at all. This had nothing to do with Floyd Mayweather either. This didnt happen at the club, and it didnt happen at the hard rock either. It happend far away from there. It happend while Javon was alone far from the club or the hard rock. That alone should tell you it was unrelated to anything that happend in the club that night. He was by himself for a reason. I'll leave it at that guys. Sorry i cant give you guys more but if you put 2 and 2 together you can understand. Once again, sorry massraider. Oh and see number 7 on the list above, thats right on.
nxmehta
Footballguy
That's an interesting term. I think you've hit the nail on the head here.I don't think any of us can conclude much about who deserved what until we get some more information.
fatness
Footballguy
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Sound like you are in Vegas and have inside knowledge on all this. Why are you posting here on a board last night and today rather than giving a statement to the police? Or did you do that already?Wait... are you the perp?? (I love using that word. Makes me feel kinda tough.
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Sounds like you are already but please turn it way down. TIA.J
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I never said he got what he deserved, it's just hard to feel sorry for someone that chooses to act a certain way.Really, I hope he fully recovers and learns from the incident. But some of you are acting like the headline reads "Javon Walker assaulted last night while sleeping peacefully at his home"
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Like I said on the dynasty thread, If you're overweight, overpaid and underperforming in your OTA's with your brand new team - AND you're partying until after 6 a.m. in Vegas a month before training camp, that's got to tell you a lot about this guy's work ethic, maturity, selfishness and intelligence.
Throw away all other speculation, all other previous incidents, and this alone is pretty damning.
There's a reason nobody was willing to even throw away a late rounder on this guy.
Throw away all other speculation, all other previous incidents, and this alone is pretty damning.
There's a reason nobody was willing to even throw away a late rounder on this guy.
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Markus P Dub
Footballguy
Take out the proverbial fork and stick him; he’s done. Had some hopes that he would turn his career around. Was looking fwd to the Denver game hype.
I’m assuming he will be IRd for the year and career over.
I’m assuming he will be IRd for the year and career over.
Pipes
Footballguy
So you don't feel bad for him because he acts like a lot a single young guys by hanging out in clubs? It's not like this guy's Pac Man Jones, in fact he's far from it.ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
First of all......... Im sorry for my STUPID posts last night. I owe an apology to massraider. I was Javon Walker DRUNK last night while posting so im sorry for coming at you how i did. From now on i will conduct myself in the right way here. I have been reading these boards for almost a year now before joining and i thinks its the best board around. That being said................ I do know pretty much the whole story here. I cant say how i know this for certain reasons but this was not Javon's fault at all. This had nothing to do with Floyd Mayweather either. This didnt happen at the club, and it didnt happen at the hard rock either. It happend far away from there. It happend while Javon was alone far from the club or the hard rock. That alone should tell you it was unrelated to anything that happend in the club that night. He was by himself for a reason. I'll leave it at that guys. Sorry i cant give you guys more but if you put 2 and 2 together you can understand. Once again, sorry massraider. Oh and see number 7 on the list above, thats right on.
What you are basically saying is that Javon was looking for a hooker and/or drugs when he was robbed and beaten? Not sure how else one could read between the lines of what you're saying.
What you are basically saying is that Javon was looking for a hooker and/or drugs when he was robbed and beaten? Not sure how else one could read between the lines of what you're saying.
Finally someone gets it clubbing = death IMOSo you don't feel bad for him because he acts like a lot a single young guys by hanging out in clubs? It's not like this guy's Pac Man Jones, in fact he's far from it.
massraider
Footballguy
We know very little about the events of that night, the only thing we know for sure is he bought a lot of champagne, and sprayed it. That action alone is enough for you to piece together the truth that he wasn't the victim of a randomless crime, and not worthy of any sympathy?Really?Impressive.
Setting the bar a little low aren't we? "Not PacMan" is the key standard now?? Geez.
As for "a lot of single young guys": A LOT of single young guys haven't just been given their 3rd (and last) chance, paid 60 Million dollars by their employer when nobody else in the league would even give up a late round pick on the guy. A LOT of single young guys in that situation aren't already overweight, coming off injury, a disastrous last season, and already underperforming in his savior-teams' OTA's. Javon Was. AND - He's a month away from training camp. Look, I go out. I can't afford to go out like he does, but I go out. BUT - In this situation - this SAME situation, there's absolutely NO reason to be partying till 6 in the morning - Vegas or not. For all the reasons I listed above. Dude should be enormously grateful. He should be doing his best to get in shape. He should be doing his level best to be in top form for his teammates and new QB and Coach. He's doing none of those things by partying until dawn in Vegas. 
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cstu
Footballguy
If you're as hot as Jessica Alba, you're a target. It's unfortunate that this happened and I wish Jessica well, but hopefully she and others in the Hollywood can learn from his mistake.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Why should you be giving Javon Walker advice on how to live his life?I think Javon Walker knows himself quite a bit better than a random stranger, and Walker's quite a bit more successful than you, too. He's a multi-millionaire who has a dream job. The fact that you envy his salary and profession doesn't mean you know how Walker should best live to be a football player.Some people work so hard so they can actually live life when they're not at work. Work hard, play hard. I'm sure Walker works harder than you do, and dedicates himself to his job more than you do. It's his off-season. If nothing in his contract prevents him from doing this, why would you resent him?To bring this up when he just was the victim of what looks like a pretty gruesome assault is incredibly small of you. Walker shouldn't be rooted against just because he makes a lot of money.Setting the bar a little low aren't we? "Not PacMan" is the key standard now?? Geez.As for "a lot of single young guys": A LOT of single young guys haven't just been given their 3rd (and last) chance, paid 60 Million dollars by their employer when nobody else in the league would even give up a late round pick on the guy. A LOT of single young guys in that situation aren't already overweight, coming off injury, a disastrous last season, and already underperforming in his savior-teams' OTA's. Javon Was. AND - He's a month away from training camp. Look, I go out. I can't afford to go out like he does, but I go out. BUT - In this situation - this SAME situation, there's absolutely NO reason to be partying till 6 in the morning - Vegas or not. For all the reasons I listed above. Dude should be enormously grateful. He should be doing his best to get in shape. He should be doing his level best to be in top form for his teammates and new QB and Coach. He's doing none of those things by partying until dawn in Vegas.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
AP article on Kansascity.com discussing the incident, and Police Lt. Clinton Nichols saying he believed Walker would be released after a 24-hour stay at the hospital (i.e., today). That's at least a good sign his injuries may not be all that bad. No new details on the injuries in the article though.
http://www.kansascity.com/491/story/666848.html
http://www.kansascity.com/491/story/666848.html
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I am gratified by the growing number of posters unwilling to leap to unwarranted conclusions.
Yes, that's what he's saying. Not really surprising since the street he got beat down on is basically known as crack alley.I have no clue if it's true, but wasted seems to know what was going on and the implication he's making is pretty clear.
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