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Javon Walker - Separated Shoulder -Probable (1 Viewer)

salmonstud

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I didn't see this posted yet. For those of us lucky enough to make it to our fantasy championship games.....this potential loss could really hurt this week. Walker finally seemed to be starting to click with Cutler and this weeks matchup against the Bengals was especially tasty. If Walker can't go...a big bump to Scheffler & possibly Marshall.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2702414

 
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And a bump down to Cutler who I've actually been getting pretty good numbers from in my 2 playoff games. Darn.

 
That's big news,

I may have to go with Eli Manning

in my championship game

if Javon Walker is out week 16.

fook.

 
Even if Walker plays I believe he will be a risky start. It's a shame because after what Manning/Harrison did to the Bengals this week...Walker would have been a very nice play for many fantasy championship games.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
EEEEEEEE BRANDON MARSHALL!
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Sig,The Brees threw for nearly 600 againstthe Bengals. What is your view on Cutler againstthe Bengals D this week. Short week for Cinccy,and traveling to Mile High.I think Cutler could go off.What is your view.Is he a solid start over Eli ?(Temporary hi-jack)thanks.
 
Shanny on the official DEN site:

"He took a shot in that second quarter," Shanahan said. "It's a little bit sore, but according to Greek (Head Athletic Trainer Steve Antonopulos), if we were playing a game today, he could play, so that's a good sign."

denverbroncos.com

 
i think you gotta be smoking some pretty good stuff if you think Walker sits this one out.

this game IS the GAME OF THE YEAR for the Broncos. Win and they have the tiebreaker over every team except KC. And that would only come into play if there was one spot available. Since there are 2, this is a HUGE game for Denver. Especially since SF is a non-conference game and doesn't bear much on the tiebreaker with Jax, Cincy, and NYJ.

 
Sure its nice to hear he probably could go, but with a championship at stake, its still a big risk to have to rely on him in a lineup.

 
This point made in the story does concern me:

"Walker suffered the injury in the first half of last Sunday's 37-20 win at Arizona. He finished the contest but did not have a catch in the second half."

 
salmonstud said:
This point made in the story does concern me:"Walker suffered the injury in the first half of last Sunday's 37-20 win at Arizona. He finished the contest but did not have a catch in the second half."
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I don't recall if there was a pass even thrown in Walker's direction in the second half. Now whether that was a result of the injury or Cutler not being on the same page with Walker again is the question.
 
Update from RotoWorld:

Javon Walker's shoulder injury is reportedly "mild," although it may force him to be limited in practice this week.

Walker's ailment is being called a first-degree separation but the Broncos' local papers aren't making a big issue of it. If he were to sit out Week 16, rookie Brandon Marshall would likely pick up a start.

Source: Denver Post

 
From RotoWorld:

Javon Walker (mild shoulder separation) is listed as probable on Wednesday's injury report.

Rookie QB Jay Cutler finally flashed some of his down-field potential with Walker in Week 15, and it looks like the latter will be ready to face the Bengals. Walker should be in all fantasy lineups unless he suffers a setback.

Source: Rocky Mountain News

 
packersfan said:
From RotoWorld:Javon Walker (mild shoulder separation) is listed as probable on Wednesday's injury report.Rookie QB Jay Cutler finally flashed some of his down-field potential with Walker in Week 15, and it looks like the latter will be ready to face the Bengals. Walker should be in all fantasy lineups unless he suffers a setback.Source: Rocky Mountain News
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Well, that is good news. Thanks for the update.
 
Javon Walker (probable, shoulder) practiced without limits for the second straight day Thursday, according to the NFL's official injury report.

Walker is set to start in a prime matchup with the Bengals in Week 16.

 
diesel7982 said:
Its a FIRST-DEGREE seperation.Thats little more than a bruise. He'll be fine.
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You are obviously not an athlete & never had a separated shoulder. I had a 1dt degree spearation last year, it was hard to lift my arm over my head without pain for 6 weeks. I wouldn't be so sure Walker isn't affected.
 
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Resident A-Hole said:
diesel7982 said:
Its a FIRST-DEGREE seperation.Thats little more than a bruise. He'll be fine.
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You are obviously not an athlete & never had a separated shoulder. I had a 1dt degree spearation last year, it was hard to lift my arm over my head without pain for 6 weeks. I wouldn't be so sure Walker isn't affected.
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I'll take my chances. The report said he practiced without limits. That's good enough for me.
 
Numbers speak louder than words, and Walker did have a catch since he got hurt.

I would expect the trend to continue this week, as well.

Denver will win with Tatum and defense this week, but Walker will be lucky to last a series.

 
H.K. said:
Numbers speak louder than words, and Walker did have a catch since he got hurt.I would expect the trend to continue this week, as well. Denver will win with Tatum and defense this week, but Walker will be lucky to last a series.
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Its becoming quite obvious that fishing season is just about over and you're casting every line you have available.
 
Walker practicing fully

Published Thu Dec 21 7:11:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) Javon Walker (probable, shoulder) practiced without limits for the second straight day Thursday, according to the NFL's official injury report.

Impact: Walker is set to start in a fine matchup with the Bengals in Week 16.

 
Resident A-Hole said:
diesel7982 said:
Its a FIRST-DEGREE seperation.Thats little more than a bruise. He'll be fine.
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You are obviously not an athlete & never had a separated shoulder. I had a 1dt degree spearation last year, it was hard to lift my arm over my head without pain for 6 weeks. I wouldn't be so sure Walker isn't affected.
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This is very true. However, cortizone injections work great.
 
The only concern I have here is Shanahan has played fast and loose with the injury report before - i.e. Tatum Bell being listed as probable and not playing in two games. So I'd suggest keeping a close eye on the inactives and having a backup plan ready just in case something goofy happens here. I'd suggest picking up Brandon Marshall if you can. Cutler seems to like throwing to him and he could step into Walker's role and do well against the Bengals. But if he practices all week and remains probable it's hard to sit him if he's a guy you normally start. The matchup is good and he's obviously talented. Then it comes down to Cutler doing his part.

 
packersfan said:
The only concern I have here is Shanahan has played fast and loose with the injury report before - i.e. Tatum Bell being listed as probable and not playing in two games. So I'd suggest keeping a close eye on the inactives and having a backup plan ready just in case something goofy happens here. I'd suggest picking up Brandon Marshall if you can. Cutler seems to like throwing to him and he could step into Walker's role and do well against the Bengals. But if he practices all week and remains probable it's hard to sit him if he's a guy you normally start. The matchup is good and he's obviously talented. Then it comes down to Cutler doing his part.
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Excellent post. Regardless of Walker starting, the big question will be how long he can go, too. Discretion is the better part of valor here given all the negativity involved in this situation. Consider the following:1) Walker is badly hurt2) No receptions since the injury3) In three games with Cutler at QB, he's seen a decline in his FF PPG averageVirtually no upside to Walker this week, but a ton of downside. Its statisitically impossible to start him this week and get an FF win.
 
H.K. said:
packersfan said:
The only concern I have here is Shanahan has played fast and loose with the injury report before - i.e. Tatum Bell being listed as probable and not playing in two games. So I'd suggest keeping a close eye on the inactives and having a backup plan ready just in case something goofy happens here. I'd suggest picking up Brandon Marshall if you can. Cutler seems to like throwing to him and he could step into Walker's role and do well against the Bengals. But if he practices all week and remains probable it's hard to sit him if he's a guy you normally start. The matchup is good and he's obviously talented. Then it comes down to Cutler doing his part.
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Excellent post. Regardless of Walker starting, the big question will be how long he can go, too. Discretion is the better part of valor here given all the negativity involved in this situation. Consider the following:1) Walker is badly hurt

2) No receptions since the injury

3) In three games with Cutler at QB, he's seen a decline in his FF PPG average

Virtually no upside to Walker this week, but a ton of downside. Its statisitically impossible to start him this week and get an FF win.
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From all reports it doesn't appear that Walker is "hurt badly". He's practiced all week without limits. I don't know about you, but the term "without limits" doesn't seem to coincide with the term "hurt badly". I agree that all Walker owners should keep a close eye on the game time inactive list, because you never know if Shanahan will do something goofy. As far as your comments about Walker's decline since Cutler became the starter, I agree with you, but with an asterisk. Walker was well on his way to a big game with Cutler in the last game he played before he hurt his shoulder, and I love his matchup this week.
 
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H.K. said:
packersfan said:
The only concern I have here is Shanahan has played fast and loose with the injury report before - i.e. Tatum Bell being listed as probable and not playing in two games. So I'd suggest keeping a close eye on the inactives and having a backup plan ready just in case something goofy happens here. I'd suggest picking up Brandon Marshall if you can. Cutler seems to like throwing to him and he could step into Walker's role and do well against the Bengals. But if he practices all week and remains probable it's hard to sit him if he's a guy you normally start. The matchup is good and he's obviously talented. Then it comes down to Cutler doing his part.
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Excellent post. Regardless of Walker starting, the big question will be how long he can go, too. Discretion is the better part of valor here given all the negativity involved in this situation. Consider the following:1) Walker is badly hurt

2) No receptions since the injury

3) In three games with Cutler at QB, he's seen a decline in his FF PPG average

Virtually no upside to Walker this week, but a ton of downside. Its statisitically impossible to start him this week and get an FF win.
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:no:
 
For those of you who don't look at FFMastemind, here is snippet from their free content from someone who follows the team that is always dead on the money:

CINCINNATI @ DENVER

FANTASY OUTLOOK

JAY CUTLER-225/2/1

M BELL-65/1; 1/5/0

T BELL- 60/1; 2/15/0

MARSHALL-4/50/1*

SMITH-4/55/0

SCHEFFLER-4/40/1

WALKER-decoy*

ELAM –1 field goal; 4 extra points

CINCINNATI 20 DENVER 31

I believe that the Broncos will make the playoffs. I don’t think they will go very far, but at least they will be there. A little playoff seasoning for the “Man from Santa Claus!”

I hope everyone has a great, healthy and safe holiday season!
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H.K. said:
For those of you who don't look at FFMastemind, here is snippet from their free content from someone who follows the team that is always dead on the money:

CINCINNATI @ DENVER

FANTASY OUTLOOK

JAY CUTLER-225/2/1

M BELL-65/1; 1/5/0

T BELL- 60/1; 2/15/0

MARSHALL-4/50/1*

SMITH-4/55/0

SCHEFFLER-4/40/1

WALKER-decoy*

ELAM –1 field goal; 4 extra points

CINCINNATI 20 DENVER 31

I believe that the Broncos will make the playoffs. I don’t think they will go very far, but at least they will be there. A little playoff seasoning for the “Man from Santa Claus!”

I hope everyone has a great, healthy and safe holiday season!
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Speculation from a friggin' fantasy football website, lol. I'll base my decisions on what insiders are saying about how he is practicing thank you very much.
 
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JohnnyU said:
Speculation from a friggin' fantasy football website, lol. I'll base my decisions on what insiders are saying about how he is practicing thank you very much.
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Charles Rives is THE source for Broncos information, ignore it if you want to, but this guy's predictions are gold in html format.
 
H.K. said:
JohnnyU said:
Speculation from a friggin' fantasy football website, lol. I'll base my decisions on what insiders are saying about how he is practicing thank you very much.
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Charles Rives is THE source for Broncos information, ignore it if you want to, but this guy's predictions are gold in html format.
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He's not "THE source", because he's not an "Inside Source", so Charles Rives saying Denver will use Walker as a decoy is nothing but pure speculation on his part. Hell, he admitted that he is speculating on that. Let's not forgot the fact that Charles Rives is writing for a Fantasy Football site, and no disrespect to those who do, but it in no way gives credence to that type of speculation.
 
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JohnnyU said:
He's not "THE source", because he's not an "Inside Source", so Charles Rives saying Denver will use Walker as a decoy is nothing but pure speculation on his part. Hell, he admitted that he is speculating on that. Let's not forgot the fact that Charles Rives is writing for a Fantasy Football site, and no disrespect to those who do, but it in no way gives credence to that type of speculation.
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I dig your stuff, Johnny, you're usually money. However, how do you know where Charles gets his information? Whether he knows someone or not doesn't change the fact that he's been amazing this season.
 
H.K. said:
JohnnyU said:
He's not "THE source", because he's not an "Inside Source", so Charles Rives saying Denver will use Walker as a decoy is nothing but pure speculation on his part. Hell, he admitted that he is speculating on that. Let's not forgot the fact that Charles Rives is writing for a Fantasy Football site, and no disrespect to those who do, but it in no way gives credence to that type of speculation.
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I dig your stuff, Johnny, you're usually money. However, how do you know where Charles gets his information? Whether he knows someone or not doesn't change the fact that he's been amazing this season.
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Just curious - what were his other predictions for Walker this season? Also, what have been his predictions for the Denver RB situation? Do you have all that? If so, I'd be interested in seeing them to see how well he really has matched up with what has actually transpired.
 
packersfan said:
Just curious - what were his other predictions for Walker this season? Also, what have been his predictions for the Denver RB situation? Do you have all that? If so, I'd be interested in seeing them to see how well he really has matched up with what has actually transpired.
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No, I don't have it. There is no archive of that information on the site (at least that I could find). Sorry.
 
H.K. said:
JohnnyU said:
He's not "THE source", because he's not an "Inside Source", so Charles Rives saying Denver will use Walker as a decoy is nothing but pure speculation on his part. Hell, he admitted that he is speculating on that. Let's not forgot the fact that Charles Rives is writing for a Fantasy Football site, and no disrespect to those who do, but it in no way gives credence to that type of speculation.
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I dig your stuff, Johnny, you're usually money. However, how do you know where Charles gets his information? Whether he knows someone or not doesn't change the fact that he's been amazing this season.
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Hell, Rives could be right, I don't know. One thing I do know, and that is I'll be watching for last minute updates on Walker's availability. I have Walker in 2 Super Bowls, and I could start Reggie Bush over Walker in one of them (non-PPR). My options in the other SB are not good, so I'll roll the dice with Walker in that one unless he's inactive.
 
H.K. said:
packersfan said:
Just curious - what were his other predictions for Walker this season? Also, what have been his predictions for the Denver RB situation? Do you have all that? If so, I'd be interested in seeing them to see how well he really has matched up with what has actually transpired.
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No, I don't have it. There is no archive of that information on the site (at least that I could find). Sorry.
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So what has he predicted that's come true? I'm interested in knowing. Maybe he does have a good source within the Broncos so if he has nailed a number of other predictions this info about Walker at least is worth factoring into the decision-making process.
 
packersfan said:
H.K. said:
packersfan said:
Just curious - what were his other predictions for Walker this season? Also, what have been his predictions for the Denver RB situation? Do you have all that? If so, I'd be interested in seeing them to see how well he really has matched up with what has actually transpired.
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No, I don't have it. There is no archive of that information on the site (at least that I could find). Sorry.
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So what has he predicted that's come true? I'm interested in knowing. Maybe he does have a good source within the Broncos so if he has nailed a number of other predictions this info about Walker at least is worth factoring into the decision-making process.
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He predicted that I would hook up with a couple of Dallas Cheerleaders as well as the Texans upsetting the Patriots last week. Neither happened, so take his predictions with a grain of salt.
 
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