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Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (1 Viewer)

'proninja said:
I think we should all get really outraged at one of the least offensive parts of this entire story and start calling each other names. Who's with me?
I think the reaction of many in that community, Sandusky aside, is the most offensive part of the story. The reaction of protecting PSU/Paterno is why we're here.
Yes, how crazy that Penn Staters would protect Paterno and Penn State. :rolleyes:
 
'Premier said:
Crosseyes has 272 posts in this thread.
:lmao:
Why do you find that so funny?It's increased since then, btw.
Because it IS. It's actually even funnier than when I first thought it was so funny.
Well that certainly clears it up.I happen to be pretty passionate about caring for and protecting kids who come from underprivileged backgrounds. That's why I've adopted one child out of the foster system and I'm working on number two.

What are you passionate about and what are you doing to pursue that passion?
I'm sorry Cross, I know that and I know you have an adopted child. I respect that. But there is no way you would have this many posts if this was any other school than Penn State. Unfortunately much of the history of this board has been pruned due to space concerns but anyone here can still run a search of your name and Penn State and find a large number of anti-Penn State posts. You were particularly gleeful with Paterno's car accident. So spare me the holier than thou crap. You're clearly a good person with a very healthy dislike of Penn State. Please don't pretend you aren't.
 
'Premier said:
Crosseyes has 272 posts in this thread.
:lmao:
Why do you find that so funny?It's increased since then, btw.
Because it IS. It's actually even funnier than when I first thought it was so funny.
Well that certainly clears it up.I happen to be pretty passionate about caring for and protecting kids who come from underprivileged backgrounds. That's why I've adopted one child out of the foster system and I'm working on number two.

What are you passionate about and what are you doing to pursue that passion?
I'm sorry Cross, I know that and I know you have an adopted child. I respect that. But there is no way you would have this many posts if this was any other school than Penn State. Unfortunately much of the history of this board has been pruned due to space concerns but anyone here can still run a search of your name and Penn State and find a large number of anti-Penn State posts. You were particularly gleeful with Paterno's car accident. So spare me the holier than thou crap. You're clearly a good person with a very healthy dislike of Penn State. Please don't pretend you aren't.
Burn.Crosseyes not only leading the thread, but more than #2 and #3 combined.

 
'Premier said:
Crosseyes has 272 posts in this thread.
:lmao:
Why do you find that so funny?It's increased since then, btw.
Because it IS. It's actually even funnier than when I first thought it was so funny.
Well that certainly clears it up.I happen to be pretty passionate about caring for and protecting kids who come from underprivileged backgrounds. That's why I've adopted one child out of the foster system and I'm working on number two.

What are you passionate about and what are you doing to pursue that passion?
I'm sorry Cross, I know that and I know you have an adopted child. I respect that. But there is no way you would have this many posts if this was any other school than Penn State. Unfortunately much of the history of this board has been pruned due to space concerns but anyone here can still run a search of your name and Penn State and find a large number of anti-Penn State posts. You were particularly gleeful with Paterno's car accident. So spare me the holier than thou crap. You're clearly a good person with a very healthy dislike of Penn State. Please don't pretend you aren't.
You're going to believe what you want to believe. I can't change that. But this has nothing to do with it being Penn State. I grew up a Pitt fan because we lived near Pittsburgh and my dad took me to Pitt Stadium almost every year for games. I went to a D2 school, so it's not like there's a real rivalry in play.As for the Paterno accident thread (I had to look it up, as I didn't even remember it), I made one joking post in a thread full of joking posts. That's considered gleeful now?

And I was also one of the people who started a thread when Haywood was arrested shortly after Pitt hired him. And I thought that Haywood and Pederson both needed to be fired.

So please don't paint me as some blind Pitt homer.

 
What's amazing that after JoePa (aka KRP) finds out about Sandusky ####### a boy in the shower he could work with him after that.

"Jerry, I was told you were raping a boy in the shower last week, but how do you think we're going to beat Iowa?"

 
'proninja said:
I think we should all get really outraged at one of the least offensive parts of this entire story and start calling each other names. Who's with me?
I think the reaction of many in that community, Sandusky aside, is the most offensive part of the story. The reaction of protecting PSU/Paterno is why we're here.
Yes, how crazy that Penn Staters would protect Paterno and Penn State. :rolleyes:
Protect PSU? I get that. Protect Paterno? At best the guy turned a blind eye to child rape. It might be worse when the facts come out.
 
What's amazing that after JoePa (aka KRP) finds out about Sandusky ####### a boy in the shower he could work with him after that.

"Jerry, I was told you were raping a boy in the shower last week, but how do you think we're going to beat Iowa?"
I am going to hell because I laughed, and I just spit beer all over my computer screen.
 
'proninja said:
I think we should all get really outraged at one of the least offensive parts of this entire story and start calling each other names. Who's with me?
I think the reaction of many in that community, Sandusky aside, is the most offensive part of the story. The reaction of protecting PSU/Paterno is why we're here.
Yes, how crazy that Penn Staters would protect Paterno and Penn State. :rolleyes:
Protect PSU? I get that. Protect Paterno? At best the guy turned a blind eye to child rape. It might be worse when the facts come out.
I don't think it's worth arguing.
 
'proninja said:
I think we should all get really outraged at one of the least offensive parts of this entire story and start calling each other names. Who's with me?
I think the reaction of many in that community, Sandusky aside, is the most offensive part of the story. The reaction of protecting PSU/Paterno is why we're here.
Yes, how crazy that Penn Staters would protect Paterno and Penn State. :rolleyes:
Protect PSU? I get that. Protect Paterno? At best the guy turned a blind eye to child rape. It might be worse when the facts come out.
I don't think it's worth arguing.
Then don't argue it. Paterno has already admitted he should have done more than he did.
 
'proninja said:
I think we should all get really outraged at one of the least offensive parts of this entire story and start calling each other names. Who's with me?
I think the reaction of many in that community, Sandusky aside, is the most offensive part of the story. The reaction of protecting PSU/Paterno is why we're here.
Yes, how crazy that Penn Staters would protect Paterno and Penn State. :rolleyes:
Protect PSU? I get that. Protect Paterno? At best the guy turned a blind eye to child rape. It might be worse when the facts come out.
I don't think it's worth arguing.
Then don't argue it. Paterno has already admitted he should have done more than he did.
To be fair, he said "With the benefit of hindsight".
 
What's amazing that after JoePa (aka KRP) finds out about Sandusky ####### a boy in the shower he could work with him after that.

"Jerry, I was told you were raping a boy in the shower last week, but how do you think we're going to beat Iowa?"
Touched.At 22.

In a a state-related to Colorado.

Hold a press conference.

Didn't read all the pages. What means this?
Most repeated lines in this 86-page thread.Touched = title of Jerry Sandusky's book

22 = not McQueary's age

Colorado = someone kept posting Colorado's law as if it related to Pennsylvania

Press conference = people kept posting that the press conference was canceled

****'s Sporting Goods = Sandusky was spotted there (WEARING PSU CLOTHING!)

Victim numbers = are in chronological order of when they were reported

Gerry = another guy named Sandusky

 
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What's amazing that after JoePa (aka KRP) finds out about Sandusky ####### a boy in the shower he could work with him after that.

"Jerry, I was told you were raping a boy in the shower last week, but how do you think we're going to beat Iowa?"
Touched.At 22.

In a a state-related to Colorado.

Hold a press conference.

Didn't read all the pages. What means this?
Most repeated lines in this 86-page thread.Touched = title of Jerry Sandusky's book

22 = not McQueary's age

Colorado = someone kept posting Colorado's law as if it related to Pennsylvania

Press conference = people kept posting that the press conference was canceled

****'s Sporting Goods = Sandusky was spotted there (WEARING PSU CLOTHING!)

Victim numbers = are in chronological order of when they were reported
ty
 
I don't think Chase was wondering why the victims are numbered that way. He's saying how could it be the 6th victim they learned about when there was a full investigation conducted back in 1998. Right?

 
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What's amazing that after JoePa (aka KRP) finds out about Sandusky ####### a boy in the shower he could work with him after that.

"Jerry, I was told you were raping a boy in the shower last week, but how do you think we're going to beat Iowa?"
Touched.At 22.

In a a state-related to Colorado.

Hold a press conference.

Didn't read all the pages. What means this?
Most repeated lines in this 86-page thread.Touched = title of Jerry Sandusky's book

22 = not McQueary's age

Colorado = someone kept posting Colorado's law as if it related to Pennsylvania

Press conference = people kept posting that the press conference was canceled

****'s Sporting Goods = Sandusky was spotted there (WEARING PSU CLOTHING!)

Victim numbers = are in chronological order of when they were reported
Full PSU attire. Let's be consistent here, OK guy?
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/penn-state-my-final-loss-of-faith/2011/11/11/gIQAwmiIDN_blog.html

Penn State, my final loss of faith

By Thomas L. Day

I’m 31, an Iraq war veteran, a Penn State graduate, a Catholic, a native of State College, acquaintance of Jerry Sandusky’s, and a product of his Second Mile foundation.

And I have fully lost faith in the leadership of my parents’ generation.

I was never harmed by Sandusky, but I could have been. When I was 15, my mother, then looking for a little direction for her teenage son, introduced me to the Second Mile’s Friend Fitness program. It was a program resembling Big Brother, Big Sister with a weekly exercise regimen.

Instead of Sandusky’s care, I was sent to a group of adults, many of whom were in their 20s. They took me from a C-student to the University of Chicago, where I’m a master’s student now. They took the football team’s waterboy and made a 101st Airborne Division soldier.

I was one of the lucky ones. My experience with Second Mile was a good one. I should feel fortunate, blessed even, that I was never harmed. Yet instead this week has left me deeply shaken, wondering what will come of the foundation, the university, and the community that made me into a man.

One thing I know for certain: A leader must emerge from Happy Valley to tie our community together again, and it won’t come from our parents’ generation.

They have failed us, over and over and over again.

I speak not specifically of our parents -- I have two loving ones -- but of the public leaders our parents’ generation has produced. With the demise of my own community’s two most revered leaders, Sandusky and Joe Paterno, I have decided to continue to respect my elders, but to politely tell them, “Out of my way.”

They have had their time to lead. Time’s up. I’m tired of waiting for them to live up to obligations.

Think of the world our parents’ generation inherited. They inherited a country of boundless economic prosperity and the highest admiration overseas, produced by the hands of their mothers and fathers. They were safe. For most, they were endowed opportunities to succeed, to prosper, and build on their parents’ work.

For those of us in our 20s and early 30s, this is not the world we are inheriting.

We looked to Washington to lead us after September 11th. I remember telling my college roommates, in a spate of emotion, that I was thinking of enlisting in the military in the days after the attacks. I expected legions of us -- at the orders of our leader -- to do the same. But nobody asked us. Instead we were told to go shopping.

The times following September 11th called for leadership, not reckless, gluttonous tax cuts. But our leaders then, as now, seemed more concerned with flattery. Then -House Majority Leader and now-convicted felon Tom Delay told us, “nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes.” Not exactly Churchillian stuff.

Those of us who did enlist were ordered into Iraq on the promise of being “greeted as liberators,” in the words of our then-vice president. Several thousand of us are dead from that false promise.

We looked for leadership from our churches, and were told to fight not poverty or injustice, but gay marriage. In the Catholic Church, we were told to blame the media, not the abusive priests, not the bishops, not the Vatican, for making us feel that our church has failed us in its sex abuse scandal and cover-up.

Our parents’ generation has balked at the tough decisions required to preserve our country’s sacred entitlements, leaving us to clean up the mess. They let the infrastructure built with their fathers’ hands crumble like a stale cookie. They downgraded our nation’s credit rating. They seem content to hand us a debt exceeding the size of our entire economy, rather than brave a fight against the fortunate and entrenched interests on K Street and Wall Street.

Now we are asking for jobs and are being told we aren’t good enough, to the tune of 3.3 million unemployed workers between the ages of 25 and 34.

This failure of a generation is as true in the halls of Congress as it is at Penn State.

Perhaps the most vivid illustration this week of our leaderless culture came with the riots in State College that followed Paterno’s dismissal. The display resembled Lord of the Flies. Without revered figures from the older generation to lead them, thousands of students at one of the country’s best state universities acted like children home alone.

This week the world found the very worst of human nature in my idyllic Central Pennsylvania home. I found that a man my community had anointed a teacher and nurturer of children, instead reportedly had them hiding in his basement. The anger and humiliation were more than I could bear. I can’t wait for my parents’ generation’s Joshua any longer. They’ve lost my faith.

Thomas Day is a graduate student at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago.
 
"Lord Of The Flies" is laying it on a bit thick, no?
yeah, unless the cameras missed it, that was not a riot. every kid I saw was laughing until they got maced.they tipped over a media fan and maybe broke some windows but it seemed pretty mild.I thought the article was interesting though.
 
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/penn-state-my-final-loss-of-faith/2011/11/11/gIQAwmiIDN_blog.html

Penn State, my final loss of faithBy Thomas L. DayI’m 31, an Iraq war veteran, a Penn State graduate, a Catholic, a native of State College, acquaintance of Jerry Sandusky’s, and a product of his Second Mile foundation.And I have fully lost faith in the leadership of my parents’ generation.I was never harmed by Sandusky, but I could have been. When I was 15, my mother, then looking for a little direction for her teenage son, introduced me to the Second Mile’s Friend Fitness program. It was a program resembling Big Brother, Big Sister with a weekly exercise regimen.Instead of Sandusky’s care, I was sent to a group of adults, many of whom were in their 20s. They took me from a C-student to the University of Chicago, where I’m a master’s student now. They took the football team’s waterboy and made a 101st Airborne Division soldier.I was one of the lucky ones. My experience with Second Mile was a good one. I should feel fortunate, blessed even, that I was never harmed. Yet instead this week has left me deeply shaken, wondering what will come of the foundation, the university, and the community that made me into a man.One thing I know for certain: A leader must emerge from Happy Valley to tie our community together again, and it won’t come from our parents’ generation.They have failed us, over and over and over again.I speak not specifically of our parents -- I have two loving ones -- but of the public leaders our parents’ generation has produced. With the demise of my own community’s two most revered leaders, Sandusky and Joe Paterno, I have decided to continue to respect my elders, but to politely tell them, “Out of my way.”They have had their time to lead. Time’s up. I’m tired of waiting for them to live up to obligations.Think of the world our parents’ generation inherited. They inherited a country of boundless economic prosperity and the highest admiration overseas, produced by the hands of their mothers and fathers. They were safe. For most, they were endowed opportunities to succeed, to prosper, and build on their parents’ work.For those of us in our 20s and early 30s, this is not the world we are inheriting.We looked to Washington to lead us after September 11th. I remember telling my college roommates, in a spate of emotion, that I was thinking of enlisting in the military in the days after the attacks. I expected legions of us -- at the orders of our leader -- to do the same. But nobody asked us. Instead we were told to go shopping.The times following September 11th called for leadership, not reckless, gluttonous tax cuts. But our leaders then, as now, seemed more concerned with flattery. Then -House Majority Leader and now-convicted felon Tom Delay told us, “nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes.” Not exactly Churchillian stuff.Those of us who did enlist were ordered into Iraq on the promise of being “greeted as liberators,” in the words of our then-vice president. Several thousand of us are dead from that false promise.We looked for leadership from our churches, and were told to fight not poverty or injustice, but gay marriage. In the Catholic Church, we were told to blame the media, not the abusive priests, not the bishops, not the Vatican, for making us feel that our church has failed us in its sex abuse scandal and cover-up.Our parents’ generation has balked at the tough decisions required to preserve our country’s sacred entitlements, leaving us to clean up the mess. They let the infrastructure built with their fathers’ hands crumble like a stale cookie. They downgraded our nation’s credit rating. They seem content to hand us a debt exceeding the size of our entire economy, rather than brave a fight against the fortunate and entrenched interests on K Street and Wall Street.Now we are asking for jobs and are being told we aren’t good enough, to the tune of 3.3 million unemployed workers between the ages of 25 and 34.This failure of a generation is as true in the halls of Congress as it is at Penn State.Perhaps the most vivid illustration this week of our leaderless culture came with the riots in State College that followed Paterno’s dismissal. The display resembled Lord of the Flies. Without revered figures from the older generation to lead them, thousands of students at one of the country’s best state universities acted like children home alone.This week the world found the very worst of human nature in my idyllic Central Pennsylvania home. I found that a man my community had anointed a teacher and nurturer of children, instead reportedly had them hiding in his basement. The anger and humiliation were more than I could bear. I can’t wait for my parents’ generation’s Joshua any longer. They’ve lost my faith.Thomas Day is a graduate student at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago.
:shrug:I'm not feeling it
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/penn-state-my-final-loss-of-faith/2011/11/11/gIQAwmiIDN_blog.html

Penn State, my final loss of faithBy Thomas L. DayI’m 31, an Iraq war veteran, a Penn State graduate, a Catholic, a native of State College, acquaintance of Jerry Sandusky’s, and a product of his Second Mile foundation.And I have fully lost faith in the leadership of my parents’ generation.I was never harmed by Sandusky, but I could have been. When I was 15, my mother, then looking for a little direction for her teenage son, introduced me to the Second Mile’s Friend Fitness program. It was a program resembling Big Brother, Big Sister with a weekly exercise regimen.Instead of Sandusky’s care, I was sent to a group of adults, many of whom were in their 20s. They took me from a C-student to the University of Chicago, where I’m a master’s student now. They took the football team’s waterboy and made a 101st Airborne Division soldier.I was one of the lucky ones. My experience with Second Mile was a good one. I should feel fortunate, blessed even, that I was never harmed. Yet instead this week has left me deeply shaken, wondering what will come of the foundation, the university, and the community that made me into a man.One thing I know for certain: A leader must emerge from Happy Valley to tie our community together again, and it won’t come from our parents’ generation.They have failed us, over and over and over again.I speak not specifically of our parents -- I have two loving ones -- but of the public leaders our parents’ generation has produced. With the demise of my own community’s two most revered leaders, Sandusky and Joe Paterno, I have decided to continue to respect my elders, but to politely tell them, “Out of my way.”They have had their time to lead. Time’s up. I’m tired of waiting for them to live up to obligations.Think of the world our parents’ generation inherited. They inherited a country of boundless economic prosperity and the highest admiration overseas, produced by the hands of their mothers and fathers. They were safe. For most, they were endowed opportunities to succeed, to prosper, and build on their parents’ work.For those of us in our 20s and early 30s, this is not the world we are inheriting.We looked to Washington to lead us after September 11th. I remember telling my college roommates, in a spate of emotion, that I was thinking of enlisting in the military in the days after the attacks. I expected legions of us -- at the orders of our leader -- to do the same. But nobody asked us. Instead we were told to go shopping.The times following September 11th called for leadership, not reckless, gluttonous tax cuts. But our leaders then, as now, seemed more concerned with flattery. Then -House Majority Leader and now-convicted felon Tom Delay told us, “nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes.” Not exactly Churchillian stuff.Those of us who did enlist were ordered into Iraq on the promise of being “greeted as liberators,” in the words of our then-vice president. Several thousand of us are dead from that false promise.We looked for leadership from our churches, and were told to fight not poverty or injustice, but gay marriage. In the Catholic Church, we were told to blame the media, not the abusive priests, not the bishops, not the Vatican, for making us feel that our church has failed us in its sex abuse scandal and cover-up.Our parents’ generation has balked at the tough decisions required to preserve our country’s sacred entitlements, leaving us to clean up the mess. They let the infrastructure built with their fathers’ hands crumble like a stale cookie. They downgraded our nation’s credit rating. They seem content to hand us a debt exceeding the size of our entire economy, rather than brave a fight against the fortunate and entrenched interests on K Street and Wall Street.Now we are asking for jobs and are being told we aren’t good enough, to the tune of 3.3 million unemployed workers between the ages of 25 and 34.This failure of a generation is as true in the halls of Congress as it is at Penn State.Perhaps the most vivid illustration this week of our leaderless culture came with the riots in State College that followed Paterno’s dismissal. The display resembled Lord of the Flies. Without revered figures from the older generation to lead them, thousands of students at one of the country’s best state universities acted like children home alone.This week the world found the very worst of human nature in my idyllic Central Pennsylvania home. I found that a man my community had anointed a teacher and nurturer of children, instead reportedly had them hiding in his basement. The anger and humiliation were more than I could bear. I can’t wait for my parents’ generation’s Joshua any longer. They’ve lost my faith.Thomas Day is a graduate student at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago.
Horribly over-dramatic. The riots stuff seals the deal. What about when it happened during a random Arts Festival at PSU 13 years ago? Was that a lack of leadership from your parents generation? Kids are dumb sometimes, yo. It happens.
 
There's been a few of your posts that seem to be overly combatative, imo.
That's putting it mildly, and some of his post have been deleted by mods.
Some dude came in here and called me a ##### out of the blue. Sorry I was combative about that one. :rolleyes:
:lmao: @ out of the blue. You said you'd throw beer at a guy for holding a sign.
Nice work genius. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about when IB came in here out of the blue and called me a #####. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Do I laugh at you now, or is that reserved for people who couldn't be more wrong in their posts?
 
There's been a few of your posts that seem to be overly combatative, imo.
That's putting it mildly, and some of his post have been deleted by mods.
Some dude came in here and called me a ##### out of the blue. Sorry I was combative about that one. :rolleyes:
:lmao: @ out of the blue. You said you'd throw beer at a guy for holding a sign.
Nice work genius. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about when IB came in here out of the blue and called me a #####. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Do I laugh at you now, or is that reserved for people who couldn't be more wrong in their posts?
So many people call you so many names it's hard to keep up.
 
This is a must listen to from the "Boomer and Carton" show on WFAN New York:

Carton just rips into this poor girl from PSU. He's incredibly rude, calls her doll right off the bat, but he does hit it out of the park.

 
This is a must listen to from the "Boomer and Carton" show on WFAN New York:

I never consider Carton must listen. Won't change that now. Lots of other folks have hit it out of the park on this situation.Anyhow, on a different note, Francesca gave this interesting quote from Paterno (with link to a source that has quote):

""I'd like to know, how could the President (Richard Nixon) know so little about Watergate in 1973, and so much about college football in 1969?"

On President Nixon declaring Texas national champion over unbeaten Penn State."

link

This site has a top-10 list of famous Joe Paterno quotes (many of which are also haunting now)

link

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

"Losing a game is heartbreaking. Losing your sense of excellence or worth is a tragedy."

"The minute you think you've got it made, disaster is just around the corner."

"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."

Francesca also brings up the point of pretty much everyone that knew anything needs to go (he applies it to the interim coach btw). He's right. Pretty much they need to clear everyone out and bring in folks without Penn State ties. Total fresh start.

-QG

 
Wonder if any of the Penn football players have considered transferring to another NCAA football program? Would the NCAA allow it to happen under these circumstances without having to sit out a year? I can't believe that the players are not in a uproar about having to be coached by men that hide behind a code of silence.

 
Horribly over-dramatic. The riots stuff seals the deal. What about when it happened during a random Arts Festival at PSU 13 years ago? Was that a lack of leadership from your parents generation? Kids are dumb sometimes, yo. It happens.
They do that #### at Maryland every time they play Duke.He's right though, I've been saying for years the boomers are gonna kill us all.
 
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