Jerry Sandusky accused of child molestation (2 Viewers)

[Good Posting Judge]

The jury deliberated 9 hours yesterday, re-heard 2 hours of testimony today, and deliberated about 8 more hours today. Glad they paid attention to details and gave it some thought. Glad he got convicted, too.

It's not that that's quick for that many charges...but I think it speaks to the jury finding very, very little credence to Sandusky's defense.

 

[CrossEyed]

 

[Todd Andrews]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

 

[Ilov80s]

I hope all involved may now find whatever peace is left in this world and beyond.

 

[CrossEyed]

The mother of victim 6 sums it up well. "We've all lost."

 

[fatness]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

With a little bit of "hey, look over there!" mixed in.

 

[CrossEyed]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

With a little bit of "hey, look over there!" mixed in.

Don't forget the, "Hey, this is normal where I come from." defense.

 

[fatness]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

With a little bit of "hey, look over there!" mixed in.

Don't forget the, "Hey, this is normal where I come from." defense.

That was the weirdest part of the trial -- several defense witnesses talking about showering with kids being routine and normal.

 

[fatness]

While Joe Amendola says he'll appeal the verdicts, Sandusky has told him to drop the appeals if he's sentenced to a juvenile facility.

 

[CrossEyed]

While Joe Amendola says he'll appeal the verdicts, Sandusky has told him to drop the appeals if he's sentenced to a juvenile facility.

That's just wrong in so many ways.

 

[fatness]

Penn State wants to settle with victims

 

[fatness]

One bear's opinion.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Penn State wants to settle with victims

From the comments:

mspls1 June 22, 2012 at 11:28PM

I think Penn State needs to change their name to Pennetration State

 

[Good Posting Judge]

You guys are risking your accounts on jokes that aren't even good.

 

[moderated]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

With a little bit of "hey, look over there!" mixed in.

Don't forget the, "Hey, this is normal where I come from." defense.

That was the weirdest part of the trial -- several defense witnesses talking about showering with kids being routine and normal.

It's bizarre to me, but some people just don't look at being naked as weird. nudists don't walk around sexually aroused as far as I know.Of course Sandusky went way further and was sexual with kids, but as odd as it is old guys walk around naked in locker rooms and gyms. They probably did it when they were younger as well and just don't view it as sexual at all.The being naked in locker rooms is more of a generational thing that anyone under 40-50 likely can't comprehend, so while I can't understand that part of i dont think the naked shower guys that testified are weirdo Pedo's.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Penn State wants to settle with victims

Love the first quote

In honor of the victims and the criminal justice system, PSU officials also said Joe Paterno's statue will be looking the other way all season.

 

[Mario Kart]

No crap Penn State wants to settle. Sweep this under the rug with no more court proceedings. I wonder what Penn State is offering in these settlements.

Whatever they are attempting to settle for multiply by ten because that is what the civil suits will bring in.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Penn State wants to settle with victims

Love the first quote

In honor of the victims and the criminal justice system, PSU officials also said Joe Paterno's statue will be looking the other way all season.

 

[pantherclub]

How long before the NCAA make an appearance in Happy Valley now this is over?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

at the continued deliberations. I worry there is a stater who wont vote guilty no matter what an this jury ends up hung

ConstruxBoy on the jury?

Given the result, I'm proud of them so I wish I could say I was on the jury.

 

[pollardsvision]

How long before the NCAA make an appearance in Happy Valley now this is over?

They are too busy counting unpaid parking tickets in Chapel Hill.

 

[The Comedian]

Well, considering his defense amounted to "nuh uh", I am not surprised with the outcome.

With a little bit of "hey, look over there!" mixed in.

Don't forget the, "Hey, this is normal where I come from." defense.

That was the weirdest part of the trial -- several defense witnesses talking about showering with kids being routine and normal.

Sounds like a candidate for the the next "What's normal?" thread.

 

[newteech]

Has there ever been a guy who deserved to get raped in a prison shower more than this guy?

I don't think it will matter if he drops the soap or not.

 

[identikit]

Sandusky's booking photo from last night:

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/216520403181502464/photo/1/large

 

[Furious Styles]

As Victim #6 said after the verdict, this isn't a victory we all lost.

I'm glad the jury convicted him obviously but the damage is long done. I really hope the victims get themselves a bad ### lawyer who puts the screws to the University

 

[Jobber]

As Victim #6 said after the verdict, this isn't a victory we all lost.I'm glad the jury convicted him obviously but the damage is long done. I really hope the victims get themselves a bad ### lawyer who puts the screws to the University

One monster is now in prison, the other in a grave. Pay the victims and let's be done with it.

 

[Apple Jack]

Penn State wants to settle with victims

Love the first quote

In honor of the victims and the criminal justice system, PSU officials also said Joe Paterno's statue will be looking the other way all season.

GOLD

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Has there ever been a guy who deserved to get raped in a prison shower more than this guy?I don't think it will matter if he drops the soap or not.

It will never happen. They will keep him isolated and safe for the rest of his days just like the do for Michael Devlin.

 

[Premier]

Has there ever been a guy who deserved to get raped in a prison shower more than this guy?I don't think it will matter if he drops the soap or not.

It will never happen. They will keep him isolated and safe for the rest of his days just like the do for Michael Devlin.

Yea but that means solitary all day. Probably an even worse fate.

 

[timschochet]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

 

[timschochet]

As Victim #6 said after the verdict, this isn't a victory we all lost.I'm glad the jury convicted him obviously but the damage is long done. I really hope the victims get themselves a bad ### lawyer who puts the screws to the University

One monster is now in prison, the other in a grave. Pay the victims and let's be done with it.

Now Paterno is a "monster"?

 

[Apple Jack]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Yes. Sucks for them.

 

[BroadwayG]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Do you feel equally as bad about the employees and kids of the 2nd mile?

 

[fatness]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

You better back that one up. Smells like BS.

 

[timschochet]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Do you feel equally as bad about the employees and kids of the 2nd mile?

I would feel the same way about any innocent person who is hurt somehow in this affair. Punish Sandusky and his enablers. Sue them for every cent they have, including Paterno's estate, if he was at all legally culpable. But by suing the university you are taking money away from people who had nothing to with this. They will be forced, likely, to cut or reduce worthy programs, fire teachers and other employees, and raise tuitions. That seems very unfair to me.

 

[Insomniac]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

 

[NMYMND]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Yes. Sucks for them.

Since everything was done to protect the football program, maybe the just thing is to raise ticket prices until the university recovers the money it will end up paying out.

 

[identikit]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Do you feel equally as bad about the employees and kids of the 2nd mile?

I would feel the same way about any innocent person who is hurt somehow in this affair. Punish Sandusky and his enablers. Sue them for every cent they have, including Paterno's estate, if he was at all legally culpable. But by suing the university you are taking money away from people who had nothing to with this. They will be forced, likely, to cut or reduce worthy programs, fire teachers and other employees, and raise tuitions. That seems very unfair to me.

Some of the university's employees had a responsibility to do the right thing. They didn't.So the university itself has some deserved exposure here.

 

[timschochet]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

 

[identikit]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

By your logic, no company/organization should be sued for any negligence/wrongdoing because it would hurt lots of uninvolved people and customers.You're painting yourself into yet another corner, Tim.

 

[timschochet]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

By your logic, no company/organization should be sued for any negligence/wrongdoing because it would hurt lots of uninvolved people and customers.You're painting yourself into yet another corner, Tim.

I wouldn't make it illegal. I'm sure Penn State will be sued, and I wouldn't blame any of the victims for doing so. But I don't like that even more innocent people are going to be hurt by this affair. To me a university is not the same as a corporation. It exists, not to make a profit, but to educate and enrich its students.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

I am okay with jail time for the enablers.

 

[Furious Styles]

Regardless of your perception of a University relative to a corporation, the fact of the matter is either entity has to be responsible for their actions.

 

[Zegras11]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

By your logic, no company/organization should be sued for any negligence/wrongdoing because it would hurt lots of uninvolved people and customers.You're painting yourself into yet another corner, Tim.

I wouldn't make it illegal. I'm sure Penn State will be sued, and I wouldn't blame any of the victims for doing so. But I don't like that even more innocent people are going to be hurt by this affair. To me a university is not the same as a corporation. It exists, not to make a profit, but to educate and enrich its students.

and enable child molesters.Just stop already.

 

[Apple Jack]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

By your logic, no company/organization should be sued for any negligence/wrongdoing because it would hurt lots of uninvolved people and customers.You're painting yourself into yet another corner, Tim.

I wouldn't make it illegal. I'm sure Penn State will be sued, and I wouldn't blame any of the victims for doing so. But I don't like that even more innocent people are going to be hurt by this affair. To me a university is not the same as a corporation. It exists, not to make a profit, but to educate and enrich its students.

and enable child molesters.Just stop already.

Can you imagine being behind Tim at the counter of any store or restaurant that requires a decision be made?

 

[SacramentoBob]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

By your logic, no company/organization should be sued for any negligence/wrongdoing because it would hurt lots of uninvolved people and customers.You're painting yourself into yet another corner, Tim.

I wouldn't make it illegal. I'm sure Penn State will be sued, and I wouldn't blame any of the victims for doing so. But I don't like that even more innocent people are going to be hurt by this affair. To me a university is not the same as a corporation. It exists, not to make a profit, but to educate and enrich its students.

and enable child molesters.Just stop already.

Can you imagine being behind Tim at the counter of any store or restaurant that requires a decision be made?

In the movie Clerks, yeah.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

So the people who run the athletic department and the university spend years covering up and enabling a child rapist in order to protect their football program and the reputation of the coach and you think it's unjust for the victims to get monetary compensation from the organization they were acting for?

You're talking about a handful of people who enabled this crime. I'm talking about thousands of students, teachers, university employees, all of whom will be adversely affected as a result of these lawsuits. I just don't think that's right.

It is a shame. A lot of innocent people are going to pay for a crime they didn't have anything to do with.On the other hand an 8-figure penalty will go a long way to making sure that the next time a University has a serial child rapist on its staff they do more than look the other way and try to hush it up.

 

[Smack Tripper]

99.9 percent of the employees and students of Penn State University had nothing to do with this. Any lawsuit filed against Penn State will end up punishing them. Is that a just outcome?

Do you feel equally as bad about the employees and kids of the 2nd mile?

I would feel the same way about any innocent person who is hurt somehow in this affair. Punish Sandusky and his enablers. Sue them for every cent they have, including Paterno's estate, if he was at all legally culpable. But by suing the university you are taking money away from people who had nothing to with this. They will be forced, likely, to cut or reduce worthy programs, fire teachers and other employees, and raise tuitions. That seems very unfair to me.

99 POINT 9????? Hmm.... I might quibble with THAT high of a percentage. But lets face facts, this university and all major universities operate as great shams. They charge their students hundreds of thousands (out of state ) for a degree, shake down alumni and corporate donors and sit on huge endowments. Penn State's when I last checked, over 1.5 billion. I'm not remotely worried about the financial impact whatsoever. Double the price of Peachy Paterno at the Creamery if you need funds.I do agree with you though Tim, that the money is a bit hollow and you can't really get that life and legacy back and I'm seriously wondering what you would think of this. How about the death penalty for football for 2 years and the removal of any mentions of Paterno and his statue on campus?I know its incredibly harsh, but more than money, THAT would be a significant message to those affected that the University community would REALLY understand the magnitude and gravity of what they REALLY love and value and thats not money, but its the football program. The same program that was too big to fail so a systemic turning of heads occurred so that the machine would operate at all costs. Money will come and go and all the dollars in the world can't wipe the memory of Sandusky from your mind. But an acknowledgement in a very real way the system that probably contributed to your unintended seduction, the system that led to it being covered, to know that system IS NOT truly bigger than you or more important than YOUR soul, as a victim, well, maybe that would be a proper penalty.

 

[Furious Styles]

Tim also comes off as pretty naive thinking that a University doesn't think and act like a corporation. In many ways they are worse. A college is a business and how could anyone not conclude that money was the primary reason people at Penn State didn't do the right thing. The football program was their cash cow and nobody wanted to upset the gravy train.

 

[Apple Jack]

Tim also comes off as pretty naive thinking that a University doesn't think and act like a corporation. In many ways they are worse. A college is a business and how could anyone not conclude that money was the primary reason people at Penn State didn't do the right thing. The football program was their cash cow and nobody wanted to upset the gravy train.

But but but, Miles Winthorp DuPont, III from Georgetown Prep is already committed to playing lacrosse there next year. WHAT ABOUT MILES???