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I wouldn't vote for the healthiest most able bodied man in the world who lived exclusively in a bulletproof fortress if there was a 0.00000000000000001% chance that a meteor could hit his fortress and kill him, thereby leaving the United States in the hands of Sarah Palin.

That's just a risk I'm not willing to take.

 
Saw John McCain on the Today show making some very well thought out points regardng healthcare.

Needless to say, he's still alive.

 
Just an FYI for those that were afraid McCain would croak and leave the Presidency in the (capable) hands of Sarah Palin, he's still alive.
Statorama (to himself) on November 5th:"I'll bide my time for 10 months, then I'll show 'em!!!"
 
This thread is going to get really tasteless really quickly if McCain does end up dieing in the next three years.

 
Would McCain have had his warts as a President? Sure. But nothing like this.
Maybe so, maybe not. :shrug: Interesting article

eta: It's a long article, one which I happened to see while waiting for a tire change. The stuff regarding military service and Nam which he is so proud of strikes home with me.

 
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Just an FYI for those that were afraid McCain would croak and leave the Presidency in the (capable) hands of Sarah Palin, he's still alive.If you voted for Obama for this reason, shame on you. You put some kind of imaginary "dead pool" ahead of the welfare of this country.Would McCain have had his warts as a President? Sure. But nothing like this.
For the record, I would've voted for Al Gore, John Edwards, my barber, my cat, a broken bowling pin, a deflated innertube, the integer 5, a ghost, every misspelling on the English version of Chinese restaurant's menu, or the scar on my ankle before I voted for a Republican in 2008. Sucks to be you, John McCain!
 
:lmao: 254 days McCain has managed to stay alive and it's seen as a victory for his supporters. Congrats guys. :lmao:
Just trying to stick it in the faces of people that were so scared that McCain would croak and this country would be *gasp* run by a strong willed woman.Can't have that. We'd rather have a self-avowed socialist who can't make a decision without a teleprompter telling him to do it....just because he has a wang.53% of the voting public is getting the crappy government they deserve...the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer for their mistake.
 
:lmao: 254 days McCain has managed to stay alive and it's seen as a victory for his supporters. Congrats guys.

:lmao:
Just trying to stick it in the faces of people that were so scared that McCain would croak and this country would be *gasp* run by a strong willed woman.Can't have that. We'd rather have a self-avowed socialist who can't make a decision without a teleprompter telling him to do it....just because he has a wang.

53% of the voting public is getting the crappy government they deserve...the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer for their mistake.
You really think that the problem people had with Palin was that she was a "strong willed woman"? Typically, the appearance of decisiveness and strong will are favorable for positions of leadership...
 
:yes: 254 days McCain has managed to stay alive and it's seen as a victory for his supporters. Congrats guys.

:shrug:
Just trying to stick it in the faces of people that were so scared that McCain would croak and this country would be *gasp* run by a strong willed woman.Can't have that. We'd rather have a self-avowed socialist who can't make a decision without a teleprompter telling him to do it....just because he has a wang.

53% of the voting public is getting the crappy government they deserve...the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer for their mistake.
You really think that the problem people had with Palin was that she was a "strong willed woman"? Typically, the appearance of decisiveness and strong will are favorable for positions of leadership...
True, but having a ###### is a liability.
 
I think McCain of 2000 would have made a pretty good president during rough times. He didn't really hold back on confronting people with decisions that needed to be made.

McCain 2008 wouldn't have been any more successfuly than Obama. At least with Obama we get the benefit of being reminded of what Carter was like so that we can avoid making that mistake again for at least a few decades.

 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.

But hey, we got Obama, right? yay

 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that people didn't vote for McCain because they were worried about Palin being president. But it's just as likely if not more likely that people didn't vote for McCain because choosing Palin as a VP candidate showed amazingly bad judgment. I know you hate Obama, but frankly, he could make a sex tape with one of Malia's classmates and it would still show better judgment than choosing the summer 2008 version of Sarah Palin to be a Vice-Presidential candidate.
 
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Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that people didn't vote for McCain because they were worried about Palin being president. But it's just as likely if not more likely that people didn't vote for McCain because choosing Palin as a VP candidate showed amazingly bad judgment. I know you hate Obama, but frankly, he could make a sex tape with one of Malia's classmates and it would still show better judgment than choosing the summer 2008 version of Sarah Palin to be a Vice-Presidential candidate.
She's smarter than Joe Biden dude.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
Still alive though :shrug:
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
Still alive though :goodposting:
And he has a cute daughter. I'm not made of stone.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that people didn't vote for McCain because they were worried about Palin being president. But it's just as likely if not more likely that people didn't vote for McCain because choosing Palin as a VP candidate showed amazingly bad judgment. I know you hate Obama, but frankly, he could make a sex tape with one of Malia's classmates and it would still show better judgment than choosing the summer 2008 version of Sarah Palin to be a Vice-Presidential candidate.
She's smarter than Joe Biden dude.
You may think that- heck, it might even be true- but I'm pretty sure that Joe Biden could have named a newspaper and a Supreme Court case if Katie Couric asked him to in the summer of 2008.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
Still alive though :goodposting:
And he has a cute daughter. I'm not made of stone.
I'm not sure if meghan mccain is "cute" or not, but she hates Sarah Palin so that bumps her up a point or two.
 
You may think that- heck, it might even be true- but I'm pretty sure that Joe Biden could have named a newspaper and a Supreme Court case if Katie Couric asked him to in the summer of 2008.
Joe Biden could plagiarize that newspaper or Supreme Court case.
 
Even if he croaked, for all of her flaws, I don't thik she would have been a worse President than Obama.

At least the Rs put their inexperienced amatuers at the bottom of the ticket...

 
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Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that people didn't vote for McCain because they were worried about Palin being president. But it's just as likely if not more likely that people didn't vote for McCain because choosing Palin as a VP candidate showed amazingly bad judgment. I know you hate Obama, but frankly, he could make a sex tape with one of Malia's classmates and it would still show better judgment than choosing the summer 2008 version of Sarah Palin to be a Vice-Presidential candidate.
Personally, I disliked the summer 2008 version of Palin less than the current incarnation.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
Still alive though :hophead:
And he has a cute daughter. I'm not made of stone.
I'm not sure if meghan mccain is "cute" or not, but she hates Sarah Palin so that bumps her up a point or two.
and she has nice cans.
 
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that people didn't vote for McCain because they were worried about Palin being president. But it's just as likely if not more likely that people didn't vote for McCain because choosing Palin as a VP candidate showed amazingly bad judgment. I know you hate Obama, but frankly, he could make a sex tape with one of Malia's classmates and it would still show better judgment than choosing the summer 2008 version of Sarah Palin to be a Vice-Presidential candidate.
Personally, I disliked the summer 2008 version of Palin less than the current incarnation.
Agreed, but the Summer 2008 version is a less defensible choice. The current version, while obviously negative, hateful and decisive, at least would probably bother to learn some basic facts about national government and read up on current events before kicking off a campaign for vice president of the United States. Or at least she's got people around to tell her to do so now.
 
scoobygang said:
Statorama said:
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
He does now. Up until he started campaigning for Prez he still did. If he hadn't turned into a spineless sounding board for Rush's GOP agenda and pick the biggest idiot in politics (since Quayle and before O'Donnel, but now back in front of the would be Wiccan) as his running mate I would've voted for him. My biggest disappointment in political history, in my life, was the about face of the "honest to goodness hero in an time in which they are sorely needed" as Letterman put it. And still amazingly after the campaign he had the most impressive political speech I've heard, again in my lifetime/ Unfortunately all the people that still put their faith in McCain in 08 just didn't listen to his plea of helping America in bipartisanship, especially the leaders of the GOP who immediately decreed that they would oppose Obama at every turn. I think McCain could've been a great President, but we'll never know and that's unfortunately entirely his fault and I hope his long legacy of heroism and straight shooting is his legacy and not his poor choices at the end of his career.
 
scoobygang said:
Statorama said:
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
He does now. Up until he started campaigning for Prez he still did. If he hadn't turned into a spineless sounding board for Rush's GOP agenda and pick the biggest idiot in politics (since Quayle and before O'Donnel, but now back in front of the would be Wiccan) as his running mate I would've voted for him. My biggest disappointment in political history, in my life, was the about face of the "honest to goodness hero in an time in which they are sorely needed" as Letterman put it. And still amazingly after the campaign he had the most impressive political speech I've heard, again in my lifetime/ Unfortunately all the people that still put their faith in McCain in 08 just didn't listen to his plea of helping America in bipartisanship, especially the leaders of the GOP who immediately decreed that they would oppose Obama at every turn. I think McCain could've been a great President, but we'll never know and that's unfortunately entirely his fault and I hope his long legacy of heroism and straight shooting is his legacy and not his poor choices at the end of his career.
Even in his "straight talk' schtick, you were being played....
 
scoobygang said:
Statorama said:
Chugging right along, in fact he just ran his second huge campaign in 2 years. Still fit as a fiddle. There's no stopping this dynamo.

But hey, we got Obama, right? yay
Captain Maverick shuffled himself to the right the second he heard what a tea partier was.I don't see how anyone could think that McCain's post-election behavior has cast him a good light. Whatever personal courage he showed to the Viet Cong, he has the political backbone of a turnip.
I think McCain could've been a great President, but we'll never know and that's unfortunately entirely his fault and I hope his long legacy of heroism and straight shooting is his legacy and not his poor choices at the end of his career.
In 2000
 
Why do you assume the 2000 McCain was genuine? John McCain was a reliable Reagan conservative coming into 2000. By all accounts, his record and policy proposals placed him to the right of George W. Bush. But he saw a craving for bipartisanship and built his reputation around campaign finance reform. The Bush campaign pulled it's dirty tricks and McCain then spent four years significantly farther to the left than he had ever been. When it became clear that Bush couldn't be challenged in 2004, he tacked back to the right to be in position for 08. He tacked further right in the primaries and then back to the center for the general election. Then he tacked further right than ever, including on an issue where his "moderate" stance was well documented in immigration once he was challenged on the right. The guy has always been a political opportunist. Political courage is a different animal than personal courage.
 
TobiasFunke said:
Rich Conway said:
Personally, I disliked the summer 2008 version of Palin less than the current incarnation.
Agreed, but the Summer 2008 version is a less defensible choice. The current version, while obviously negative, hateful and decisive, at least would probably bother to learn some basic facts about national government and read up on current events before kicking off a campaign for vice president of the United States. Or at least she's got people around to tell her to do so now.
I can't imagine what gives you the impression that she's learned any basic facts about national government. As far as people around her to tell her to learn that stuff (or teach her that stuff), I'd put that on McCain's campaign people moreso than Palin herself.
 
But fast forward to today, it's the republicans that have no policy or direction other than to vehemently and wildly denounce any and every speech, policy or decision coming from the White House or Congress (see Jim11). It's a ####### drag on this country for the republican "leadership" to simply denounce, denounce, denounce hoping the negativity starts to resonate with more Americans and they take it out on the incumbents (see the woman in Colorado crying about the Obama speech to schoolchildren). Obama was foolish to think that republicans would be open to any bi-partisanship on even one policy, because they know it has to be their strategy to never compromise. The republican party is a joke right now, devoid of any ideas or leadership of their own. It's too bad because it's the country that suffers as a result.
You literally could take this post, replace "Republican" with "Democrat" and "Bush" with "Obama" and it would have matched up perfectly with scores of posts from early 2005. I can never get over how short our memories are.
My memory isn't short. Replace the words all you want - I believe the statement no matter who's put in it right now.
 
What would McCain be working on if he were currently President? Outside of healthcare reform, what would be dramatically different?

 
What would McCain be working on if he were currently President? Outside of healthcare reform, what would be dramatically different?
DOW 25,000, S&P hits five digits, unemployment rate actually goes negative (more jobs available than people, we have to quickly legalize the underground immigrant population to meet demands), housing market roars back to life, income taxes slashed, and free public wi-fi for all would have been accomplished by now, so he'd probably just put his feet up on that big desk and coast through the rest of his term.
 
You could be better off today, but you elected Obama.
Maybe, maybe not. We will never know.However if you want to blame someone for me not voting republican in the last presidential election you should blame McCain for his ridiculous running mate pick. That move cost him a TON of votes from the millions of undecided voters like myself.
 
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You could be better off today, but you elected Obama.
Maybe, maybe not. We will never know.However if you want to blame someone for me not voting republican in the last presidential election you should blame McCain for his ridiculous running mate pick. That move cost him a TON of votes from the millions of undecided voters like myself.
How would she have been any different than Biden? Seriously.
 

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