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Josh Gordon - August 1, 2016 (1 Viewer)

Soulfly3 said:
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:lmao: :lmao:

He's making these twitter warriors so mad. I looooooove it
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While it may not be a big deal at all, as a Gordon owner I'd rather not see pictures of him hanging out with a disaster like Johnny Football.

 
DallasDMac said:
Can we please quit pretending like Manziel is "just a teammate"? Seriously, stop. He's facing assault charges, has serious addiction problems, has threatened to take his own life, and isn't long for the team.
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This is why I'm concerned - not because I think it will effect Gordon's reinstatement. I would rather that he not surround himself with people that make poor decisions. Let's be realistic here, it may mean absolutely nothing at all of course, but it's not a good look.

 
Taking a pic w Manziel, doesn't mean he was hanging with Manziel.

For a forum supposedly full of scholars, you guys sure do make some stupid assumptions. 

 
Soulfly3 said:
Taking a pic w Manziel, doesn't mean he was hanging with Manziel.

For a forum supposedly full of scholars, you guys sure do make some stupid assumptions. 
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Posting a pic of himself doing an MMA workout doesn't mean he's going to be a top NFL WR.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

 
Bayhawks said:
Posting a pic of himself doing an MMA workout doesn't mean he's going to be a top NFL WR.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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No, but posting a VIDEO of an MMA workout, does show that he is keeping himself in top shape.

Any more words you wanna shove in people's mouths?

 
Wow. a Headline, with the single photo that everyone has already seen. 

Where are they "hanging out"? Why wasn't Josh in the photo w Johnny and Von Miller? Mustve been taking a leak.

 
Soulfly3 said:
No, but posting a VIDEO of an MMA workout, does show that he is keeping himself in top shape.

Any more words you wanna shove in people's mouths?
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No, it doesn't, and that's the point that you refuse to see/acknowledge.

It shows that for 47 seconds, he was able to slap pads. 

He could be in great shape, and a video of him working out COULD be a sign that he is in great shape, but it isn't proof of anything.

Along the same line of logic (I know-that concept might be foreign to you with regards to Gordon), a pic of him in Vegas, with Manziel (a player who seems to have his own issues with substances) shows that he COULD have been in a bad situation.  It isn't proof of anything, though.

Funny how you are super-quick to make the leap from COULD to PROOF with regards to the MMA video, but ridicule those who make the same leap from COULD to PROOF in the other direction.

 
You can't look at Gordon, and all his training vids, and come to the conclusion that he is in great shape?

What constitutes "great shape" to you, because I honestly need to know. 

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cuz that, to me, and anyone who isnt stevie wonder... Is great shape.

 
Soulfly3 said:
You can't look at Gordon, and all his training vids, and come to the conclusion that he is in great shape?

What constitutes "great shape" to you, because I honestly need to know. 
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You can't look at Manziel, all the trouble he's had with Vegas, and alcohol, and possible drugs (rolled up $20 bill), and come to the conclusion that it's common sense that a guy who is trying to get re-instated to the NFL for a suspension that was the result of drugs & alcohol shouldn't associate with him?

What constitutes "common sense" to you, because I honestly need to know.

cuz to me, and anyone who isn't blinded by Gordon-love, being in Vegas with Manziel...is a bad decision.

 
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Suspended WR Josh Gordon attended UFC 196 with Johnny Manziel over the weekend.

There's obviously nothing wrong with Gordon attending the UFC fight, but Browns higher ups may gaze skeptically on his association with Manziel, whom they intend to release shortly. Manziel is a known substance abuser, and Gordon was suspended for the entire 2015 season over violations of the NFL's substance abuse policy. The NFL may also frown upon Gordon's Manziel association. Commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to rule on Gordon's potential reinstatement at some point later this month.
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seems to indicate that it wasn't just a picture
 
So, Gordon is explicitly banned by FBG police, from taking a photo with ANY nfl player who has ever been suspended. 

Poor guy is gonna be taking photos with a couple punters in his next post

 
Soulfly3 said:
So, Gordon is explicitly banned by FBG police, from taking a photo with ANY nfl player who has ever been suspended. 

Poor guy is gonna be taking photos with a couple punters in his next post
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We have no authority over Gordon. He can do whatever he wants. As an owner it concerns me that he's not showing better judgment. That's all.

 
Better judgement than a photo? A picture.

The proof is in the piss tests. Of which, he claims he has passed, each and every time, and will each and every time forward.

Proof is having not been busted, arrested, fined, charged, during this latest ordeal.

Sorry.... but help me understand how a photo with a guy who is STILL a member of the NFL, and may still be in the future, means Gordon is messing up and not going to get reinstated. Honestly, makes no sense to me

 
Soulfly3 said:
Better judgement than a photo? A picture.

The proof is in the piss tests. Of which, he claims he has passed, each and every time, and will each and every time forward.

Proof is having not been busted, arrested, fined, charged, during this latest ordeal.

Sorry.... but help me understand how a photo with a guy who is STILL a member of the NFL, and may still be in the future, means Gordon is messing up and not going to get reinstated. Honestly, makes no sense to me
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Sorry, you either can't or refuse to even try to understand - or like some one else said just trolling at this point.

 
I'm not trolling, whatsoever.

How did a photo, become "hanging out"? Is there video of the 2 hanging out, drinking, smoking, at a bar, club, anything besides a photo at an event they both attended?

I dont care if they snapped a photo together. If they are actually "hanging out" then, yes, I would concede to being more worried.

 
Gordon himself says they attended together
 

Suspended Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon confirmed on Twitter early Sunday morning he attended UFC 196 with troubled quarterback Johnny Manziel on Saturday night in Las Vegas.A photograph of the two surfaced online with the captain, "Johnny Manziel, Josh Gordon attend #UFC196 together," to which Gordon replied, "Yep."


Maybe the use of the word "attended...together" is ambiguous and it just means they were both in attendance at the event separately - but the common usage would mean they went together. If that's true it's poor judgment on Gordon's part no matter how you want to spin it.

And for the record no one said he will not get reinstated because of this or most of the other stuff you're claiming they are saying. Most not blinded by unconditional Gordon love have just expressed some concerns with this news. It's not a good look for some one that needs to turn their life around and looked like that he was doing so.

 
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They did attend together. Everyone in that building attended together.

Like I said, if they are "hanging out", I have reason to be worried. If they're snapping pics at a UFC event, where every name on the planet also was... I could not care less.

 
I'm not, but if it makes you feel better. 

You find me evidence beyond a photo of the 2 of them, at an event where TONS of athletes and stars were, showing that they are hanging out, and you'll see me write "now Im starting to worry"

 
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The concern level on "OMG GORDON IS HANGING WITH JOHNNY" shouldn't be more than a 2 of 10.  Soulfly wins this round.

 
Soulfly3 said:
I'm not trolling, whatsoever.

How did a photo, become "hanging out"? Is there video of the 2 hanging out, drinking, smoking, at a bar, club, anything besides a photo at an event they both attended?

I dont care if they snapped a photo together. If they are actually "hanging out" then, yes, I would concede to being more worried.
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You're both trolling. Please stop it now and both of you be way cooler if you want to keep posting here. Thanks.

J

 
You've got to be kidding me?

I'm taking a legitimate stance on a subject, and I'm trolling? Right. 

Forgive me for thinking an simple photo at a fight is proof of absolutely nothing. 

 
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Soulfly3 said:
You've got to be kidding me?

I'm taking a legitimate stance on a subject, and I'm trolling? Right. 

Forgive me for thinking an simple photo at a fight is proof of absolutely nothing. 
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Be way cooler. If you can't do that or don't understand that you're just arguing, please stop posting.

J

 
Soulfly3 said:
So, Gordon is explicitly banned by FBG police, from taking a photo with ANY nfl player who has ever been suspended. 

Poor guy is gonna be taking photos with a couple punters in his next post
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Ummm.. Not Mike Vanderjagt!

 
A night out with Johnny is perfect for him. That idiot probably did all he could to get Josh to down a bottle of champagne with him. For sure Josh was tested the next morning and if all is good then he's passed another test.

 
Sorry need to make 2 replies because this site really screws up on my phone. If Josh gets reinstated that means he has passed a lot of drug/alcohol tests. Even for a knucklehead as big as him, he's not going to be so close to a big payday and blow it. He knows he has a winning lottery ticket to cash in. He'll be fine this year, it's when he signs that big contract next year we could see the slippage. 

 
FreshiZ said:
Sorry need to make 2 replies because this site really screws up on my phone. If Josh gets reinstated that means he has passed a lot of drug/alcohol tests. Even for a knucklehead as big as him, he's not going to be so close to a big payday and blow it. He knows he has a winning lottery ticket to cash in. He'll be fine this year, it's when he signs that big contract next year we could see the slippage. 
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That may be true; but he was just as close before his last suspension.  The '14 season was over when he got popped.  He was 1 season away from a big payday, just as he is now (when he gets reinstated), and he blew it then (admittedly for having a beer, bit the point remains).

 
FreshiZ said:
Sorry need to make 2 replies because this site really screws up on my phone. If Josh gets reinstated that means he has passed a lot of drug/alcohol tests. Even for a knucklehead as big as him, he's not going to be so close to a big payday and blow it. He knows he has a winning lottery ticket to cash in. He'll be fine this year, it's when he signs that big contract next year we could see the slippage. 
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It depends whether he has an alcohol or drug use disorder or not.  If yes then all bets are off.  If no, then you are probably correct.  You know when we know he'll be fine this year? In 2017. There simply are no givens. Be happy if he is reinstated, stays out of trouble and plays. If this happens there is no reason he can't return to greatness. We are a long way from there though.

 
He's not gonna get a big payday after this year.

He'll get a potentially big payday, w an incentive laden mega contract, more than likely. Then again, desperate teams do things we dont expect.. but itll work out

 
Soulfly3 said:
He's not gonna get a big payday after this year.

He'll get a potentially big payday, w an incentive laden mega contract, more than likely. Then again, desperate teams do things we dont expect.. but itll work out
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This will be intriguing.  On the one hand, by that time he'll have a full year played and clean, plus a lot longer clean for the year/two since his last failed test, so assuming we're still talking about him next March that's over 2 years clean.  I think someone feels comfortable enough to throw out a pretty aggressive offer.  On the other hand though, Cleveland will almost certainly give him the highest tender, which gives them a 1st rounder if anyone signs Gordon away.  That's a hefty price to put a big contract and a 1st rounder on the line. 

 
I hope he stays in Cleveland.

God willing, they take Goff (or Wentz, if they must) and they'll form a real deadly duo.

 
Hankmoody said:
This will be intriguing.  On the one hand, by that time he'll have a full year played and clean, plus a lot longer clean for the year/two since his last failed test, so assuming we're still talking about him next March that's over 2 years clean.  I think someone feels comfortable enough to throw out a pretty aggressive offer.  On the other hand though, Cleveland will almost certainly give him the highest tender, which gives them a 1st rounder if anyone signs Gordon away.  That's a hefty price to put a big contract and a 1st rounder on the line. 
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I'm not here to debate his talent, anyone would be a fool to think he's anything other than an elite talent NFL WR.... but the bolded is what I often hear people say.  At this point, it doesn't really matter how long he's been clean it just matters that he doesn't 'get dirty' again.  Unfortunately for Josh, he's out of strikes.  Fantasy owners have to understand that there is absolutely risk in taking him knowing that any single minute slip up is ultimately the end.  What I'm seeing (and I don't blame people) is owners viewing the high reward possibilities of having a potential top 3-5 fantasy WR. 

 
SeanTaylor21 said:
I'm not here to debate his talent, anyone would be a fool to think he's anything other than an elite talent NFL WR.... but the bolded is what I often hear people say.  At this point, it doesn't really matter how long he's been clean it just matters that he doesn't 'get dirty' again.  Unfortunately for Josh, he's out of strikes.  Fantasy owners have to understand that there is absolutely risk in taking him knowing that any single minute slip up is ultimately the end.  What I'm seeing (and I don't blame people) is owners viewing the high reward possibilities of having a potential top 3-5 fantasy WR. 
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Did you even read my post?  I was speculating about what an NFL team would do 12 months from now if he's clean.  I've been the loudest one in here stating Gordon is an obnoxious risk/reward at prices being discussed.

 
Hankmoody said:
Did you even read my post?  I was speculating about what an NFL team would do 12 months from now if he's clean.  I've been the loudest one in here stating Gordon is an obnoxious risk/reward at prices being discussed.
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Wasn't a shot at you; hence why I said "what I often hear people say." Just a general statement man, not an attack at your post. 

 
Maybe I've just seen the light? After seeing Kim K post that selfie, I now understand what a photo can do to one's public perception 

 
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