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I think he is talking about those who said it would be a 0-16 to 4-12 team guaranteed. Although it is true that even the most optimistic Broncos fans were predicting a 500 season.Was there anyone that predicted this team was actually going to be good? Looks like they are though, good for Broncos fans.
I agree.I have been doing FF for 21 years and I have been wrong about everything this year. I was a complete doomsayer when it came to my Broncos and I am currently 0-5 for the first time ever in my 20+ year old FF league.Dogs will mate with cats I tell ya....But if it takes being wrong for these results, I am happy to be a fool.
Hence the source of the "Orton is a winner" and "all he does is win football games" schtick.Orton is 26-12 as a starter in his career.
Not many, not me.Love the team, glad to see it.It is funny that there are some that still don't think they are for real. Best D they have had in 30 years.
Still too early for me to make that call. Denver's had some serious defenses since 1977. Like 1989. Or, more recently, 2005.Not many, not me.Love the team, glad to see it.It is funny that there are some that still don't think they are for real. Best D they have had in 30 years.
The 2005 defense was unreal. This one looks better but it's a long season and it is very early. Champ is playing just about as well as he did back then, minus the INTs, which is a great sign. That year, I could almost say, "C'MON CHAMP!" and it'd happen. This year I'm shouting "C'MON D!" and it's happening. So far. I'm worried that we are fragile, and only an injury or two away from being less than mediocre.SSOG you are right that this D got away with murder today, but I'll take the Broncos "Patriots'ing the Patriots" any day.Still too early for me to make that call. Denver's had some serious defenses since 1977. Like 1989. Or, more recently, 2005.Not many, not me.Love the team, glad to see it.Was there anyone that predicted this team was actually going to be good? Looks like they are though, good for Broncos fans.
It is funny that there are some that still don't think they are for real. Best D they have had in 30 years.
Apparently I was wrong about this team. I've picked against the Broncos every week, and been wrong every time. Now I realize the problem is that I intensely dislike Josh McDaniels and the Broncos. So I really want them to be bad. I can't let the emotions get in the way of good sense. I'll try to pick them against the Chargers. As much as it pains me to say it, they apparently are better than I have given them credit for.
Impressive, Josh.
I thought the Giants bash would give away the sarcasm. Maybe I should have gone with SSOG's if the Colts lose to the Broncos then Peyton Manning is washed up.
In addition to giving the Broncos and McDaniels a ton of credit for an amazing start, how about we give Orton a bit of credit around here as well. While he's not a supremely talented QB, there has to be something to this guy, seems like a great fit for McDaniels offense. In addition to his career record did anyone notice his lifetime stats in the red zone? After his 2 TD's today I believe it is up to 27 TD's and 2 INT's lifetime inside the 20. Go Broncos! And to quote Bill Parcells, "You are what your record says you are."Hence the source of the "Orton is a winner" and "all he does is win football games" schtick.Orton is 26-12 as a starter in his career.
Yes. Color me impressed. Another CotY candidate there.
Where do I sign up?I was one of the guys saying that 3-0 meant nothing because they hadn't played anyone. Well, not only have they beaten two above average opponents since, it looks like they beat an even better one in Cincinnati.Not knowing much about McDaniels, his hardball approach with Cutler and Marshall gave me teh impression that he was trying to be Bill Belichick Jr, a no-nonsense, no-fun, takes-himself-too-seriously, smug idiot.After watching the fist pumps yesterday, I actually am starting to like the guy. He acted like a kid out there, and it made him human, unlike his mentor.
One of the highlights of the season for me right there.JuniorNB said:<--click it
I think that fist pump was the cumulative result of him harnessing a ton of different emotions going all the back to the offseason drama. This win was about vindication for McD in so many ways, and I think in that moment, all of that harnessed emotion came flooding out. Up to that point, he had been so reserved and, I don't want to say smug, but something like it. I think it was awesome and a well deserved moment of finally letting loose.
I think Rex Ryan is 1a right now, with McDaniels being 1b. It is that close. Marvin Lewis is also in the discussion.
Is there a COTY for both the AFC and the NFC? I think until yesterday, Singletary was also in the discussion - and that's not to say he won't remain in the discussion, but he certainly took a big step backwards yesterday.
It looked to me like McDaniels and Belichick were looking for each other for the handshake, but couldn't find each other in the throng of reporters, and eventually Belichick just got impatient and went to the locker room.Nothing at all wrong with the fist pump, any more than it's wrong to celebrate and yell after scoring a game-winning TD. Football is an emotional game. That was a particularly emotional game, both because of how it played out on the field and because of all of the sub-text leading into it (both McDaniels' vindication and playing against his former team). I would rather have a coach for whom winning is an exciting and emotional experience than a coach for whom winning has lost its meaning and luster.
We'll see how Ryan does tonight, but I'd say that Denver has exceeded expectations more than New York has to this point. Denver's already got more wins through 5 weeks than many people were predicting they'd have for the season. Vegas had Denver's O/U at 6.5, and they're already at 5 wins (the Jets O/U was 7, and the Jets only have 3 so far).My pick so far would be McDaniels or Marvin Lewis, whose team had the same O/U (6.5 wins), and whose team has essentially done exactly as well (both teams are undefeated except against each other, and we all know how that game finished).
Me too, and I hate the Broncos. That was really awesome.One of the highlights of the season for me right there.JuniorNB said:<--click it
I'm pretty sure Belicheck had one of his assistants stay out and tell Josh Bill looked for him and they would talk later.As Josh was walking almost into the tunnel one NE coach grabbed Josh and the mics picked up Bill ......... and you could hear Josh say something like no problem catch him in there .... or something like that. It was tough to make out but you could hear bits and pieces.It looked like they couldn't find each otehr so Josh assumed Bill already left so he celebrated some....
And McDaniels is now the leader in the clubhouse.
THE BRONCOS HAVE NO CHANCE!!!Is Rex Ryan even in the coach of the year conversation anymore? I doubt it.
Nope. McDaniels has lapped the pack. Amazing.
He's a coach in New York, which means he's always in the conversation.
if **** Jauron outcoached a legit coach of the year candidate, I think people will want to change their votes in the "worst coach in the NFL" poll
you know as well as anyone that Buffalo doesn't count when people mention New York.
of course but that doesn't really have anything to do with my comment.
ryan < jauron < manginamangina could be coach of the year by transitivity.
Looks like Clifton saw this developing early in the season.
I honestly think McDaniels fleeced the Bears. Cutler is a bit of a headcase. So he had a very good season last year. He also had a ton of tools in Denver and a fantastic O-Line. He's not a superstar and he doesn't have the leadership fire. Bears overpaid BIGTIME.
Sometimes you have to listen to the sharks
I gotta think Payton is up there as well though....
Sometimes you have to listen to the sharksWas there anyone that predicted this team was actually going to be good? Looks like they are though, good for Broncos fans.
