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Yeah, I think Drew is the new villain, though I hope we still get Duffy thrown in there because he's my favorite character on the show.
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OK, thanks. But Drew hasn't done anything except fake his own death. Seems they would want to get to him to solve the crime about the dead fed from 30 years ago.And why did the FBI guy kill himself? If he was here under duress to try and find Drew, doesn't him offing himself mean his wife and kids are still in danger?
 
'Abraham said:
Yeah, I think Drew is the new villain, though I hope we still get Duffy thrown in there because he's my favorite character on the show.
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OK, thanks. But Drew hasn't done anything except fake his own death. Seems they would want to get to him to solve the crime about the dead fed from 30 years ago.And why did the FBI guy kill himself? If he was here under duress to try and find Drew, doesn't him offing himself mean his wife and kids are still in danger?
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I can't answer those questions and they make me think I need to rewatch the first couple episodes. I missed the latter half of the second episode, too.
 
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'cosjobs said:
The last two seasons I waited a few weeks and watched them together and would catch up once a month on the dvr. That worked a lot better for me than watching a single episode a week like I an doing this year. Show is not dense enough for me on single episodes. I think I'll take a month off.
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I do this for all one-hour dramas now. Hardest part is avoiding threads here and reviews online elsewhere. I find that I enjoy the shows a lot more this way.
 
'Abraham said:
A couple questions...

ANy chance Goggins milked the snake and the preacher will be fine? Or did the writers see the preacher angle was going nowhere and decided to kill him off and replace that storyline with the grifters and the missing Drew guy?Is Drew a new character? I think he is but wanted to make sure. So he saw some mob guy kill a fed thirty years ago? If the season turns to finding him, that would be fine. But doesn't that mean they are going to have to introduce the mob guy too? And are we thinking all of that leads back to the guy from Frankfurt whose name I can't remember?Why would Raylan go looking for the grifter chick? Yeah, he liked her and all but...Can someone fill me in on how/when Raylan's hot wife left the show and how he got hooked up with the bartender in the first place? I must have missed 3 or 4 episodes in the second half of last season where I'm guessing this was explained.
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Don't know about the first one, but an interview I read yesterday with the showrunner (ew.com, maybe?) said the preacher is done. I don't think the writers had any realization, but that it was the plan all along.The mob guy you refer to in your second question is Theo Tonin. He was played by Adam(?) Arkin last season and is the Detroit guy who had exiled Quarles.Raylan hooked up with the bartender last season after a pretty tense confrontation at the bar with Quarles. Great scene if you missed it.Here's the EW article I read. This might answer some of your questions better than I can:EW article
 
'Shrugs said:
Some of you are really bad at watching tv. Not Doc, he finally explained things right.
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In this case, guilty as charged. A lot of new characters + drunk the last few Tuesday nights + missed second half of important early episode = should have shut up about the season 4 questions until I filled in the gaps
 
What an episode. It's easy to take a show like Justified for granted. They bring it most every week and there's not a whole lot to complain about (well, except that we always need more Art).The whole season has built up nicely to this episode, and it was a big one.Finally got Raylan and Boyd on screen together hunting for the same man for very different reasons, but with same outcome (keeping Arlo locked up). Both held captive a bunch of "hill people" no less.Did they really just call on the bald idiot from the worst sitcom in history to be a hitman for the Detroit mob and pull it off beautifully? He was great in that scene. I hope he's around more.Then they bring in George Hearst as the apparent key to this whole thing, now with just one foot. They somehow find the time to set an upcoming war between Boyd and Jim Beaver.It's pretty remarkable how they throw all of this together for a coherent, enjoyable hour of TV.

 
Lots of Deadwood/FX appearances in this one. Hearst, the creepy county commissioner from Deadwood, and, of course, FILTHY PHIL!I watch too much TV.

 
'pollardsvision said:
'Brady Marino said:
Lots of Deadwood/FX appearances in this one. Hearst, the creepy county commissioner from Deadwood, and, of course, FILTHY PHIL!

I watch too much TV.
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I got the feeling he's going to get his hands on a loaded gun later in the season.
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I really, really don't understand why this guy gets acting gigs. He MUST be the big wig's son or he must have incriminating photos and/or classified cables.
 
I'd also like to apologize for failing to commend Jere Burns for another fine, fine performance. Wynn Duffy has become one of the funniest characters on TV.Loved the look on his face with FBI agent blood on his forehead and brains oozing out the wind of his RV. "No problem at all"

 
'pollardsvision said:
What an episode. It's easy to take a show like Justified for granted. They bring it most every week and there's not a whole lot to complain about (well, except that we always need more Art).The whole season has built up nicely to this episode, and it was a big one.Finally got Raylan and Boyd on screen together hunting for the same man for very different reasons, but with same outcome (keeping Arlo locked up). Both held captive a bunch of "hill people" no less.Did they really just call on the bald idiot from the worst sitcom in history to be a hitman for the Detroit mob and pull it off beautifully? He was great in that scene. I hope he's around more.Then they bring in George Hearst as the apparent key to this whole thing, now with just one foot. They somehow find the time to set an upcoming war between Boyd and Jim Beaver.It's pretty remarkable how they throw all of this together for a coherent, enjoyable hour of TV.
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Dont hate on yes dear
 
I love the show but I have to :rolleyes: at a lot of the ways Eastern Kentucky is portrayed. We have our white trash but no more than anyone else.I especially found the whole "cockfighting" thing hilarious. It was completely absurd. I know a lot about that particular subject having lived in this area most of my life.That said I really like the show. I just wish it was feasable to film "on location". Rednecks aside we have some really beautiful scenery.

 
'Charlie Frown said:
I love the show but I have to :rolleyes: at a lot of the ways Eastern Kentucky is portrayed. We have our white trash but no more than anyone else.I especially found the whole "cockfighting" thing hilarious. It was completely absurd. I know a lot about that particular subject having lived in this area most of my life.That said I really like the show. I just wish it was feasable to film "on location". Rednecks aside we have some really beautiful scenery.
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Have you been to Harlan County?
 
I need to :blackdot: this thread finally. Just watched last week's episode Wednesday and need to get to this week's episode - maybe tonight.

 
'Stoneys said:
I need to :blackdot: this thread finally. Just watched last week's episode Wednesday and need to get to this week's episode - maybe tonight.
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Come on in. This thread needs all the help it can get.The thread for FX's rookie drama that very well might not make it is scheduled to pass this one in about a week. (Though I do like The Americans more than most)What this thread ultimately needs, though, is for GPJ to brush up on his
 
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'pollardsvision said:
I'd also like to apologize for failing to commend Jere Burns for another fine, fine performance. Wynn Duffy has become one of the funniest characters on TV.Loved the look on his face with FBI agent blood on his forehead and brains oozing out the wind of his RV. "No problem at all"
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:lmao: :lmao: I agree, that was great.
 
'Tybeeman said:
'pollardsvision said:
I'd also like to apologize for failing to commend Jere Burns for another fine, fine performance. Wynn Duffy has become one of the funniest characters on TV.Loved the look on his face with FBI agent blood on his forehead and brains oozing out the wind of his RV. "No problem at all"
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:lmao: :lmao: I agree, that was great.
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"Do you see any cats?"
 
'Brady Marino said:
'pollardsvision said:
'Brady Marino said:
Lots of Deadwood/FX appearances in this one. Hearst, the creepy county commissioner from Deadwood, and, of course, FILTHY PHIL!

I watch too much TV.
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I got the feeling he's going to get his hands on a loaded gun later in the season.
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I really, really don't understand why this guy gets acting gigs. He MUST be the big wig's son or he must have incriminating photos and/or classified cables.
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He is playing a character that is 'touched' so he probably doesn't have to act all that much
 
'Shrugs said:
'Charlie Frown said:
I love the show but I have to :rolleyes: at a lot of the ways Eastern Kentucky is portrayed. We have our white trash but no more than anyone else.I especially found the whole "cockfighting" thing hilarious. It was completely absurd. I know a lot about that particular subject having lived in this area most of my life.That said I really like the show. I just wish it was feasible to film "on location". Rednecks aside we have some really beautiful scenery.
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Have you been to Harlan County?
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Yeah but it's been a few years. I lived most of my life in Floyd County though. I moved out of there in '97.
 
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.

 
'Abraham said:
'pollardsvision said:
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.

Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.
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Good episode. I like the introduction of the local string-pullers.
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It certainly sets up some good story going forward.I don't think there's any chance that Boyd actually does the murder. That eliminates his chance of ever getting out from under them.

I assume he'll end up working with Raylan to help break loose from these guys.

If nothing else, Raylan will get in the mix because these guys definitely know who Drew Thompson is and there's a good chance one of them actually is him.

 
'pollardsvision said:
'Abraham said:
'pollardsvision said:
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.

Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.
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Good episode. I like the introduction of the local string-pullers.
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It certainly sets up some good story going forward.I don't think there's any chance that Boyd actually does the murder. That eliminates his chance of ever getting out from under them.

I assume he'll end up working with Raylan to help break loose from these guys.

If nothing else, Raylan will get in the mix because these guys definitely know who Drew Thompson is and there's a good chance one of them actually is him.
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Nitpicking I guess but seems like a stretch that these power-brokers reveal themselves and their methods to back someone into a corner to get them to do a hit. Would think these type of dudes would have other options then Boyd to do their dirty work. They obviously have the muscle to threaten Boyd. It was still a really good episode and you have to suspend some disbelief but it is a bit ridiculous.
 
'Daywalker said:
'pollardsvision said:
'Abraham said:
'pollardsvision said:
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.

Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.
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Good episode. I like the introduction of the local string-pullers.
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It certainly sets up some good story going forward.I don't think there's any chance that Boyd actually does the murder. That eliminates his chance of ever getting out from under them.

I assume he'll end up working with Raylan to help break loose from these guys.

If nothing else, Raylan will get in the mix because these guys definitely know who Drew Thompson is and there's a good chance one of them actually is him.
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Nitpicking I guess but seems like a stretch that these power-brokers reveal themselves and their methods to back someone into a corner to get them to do a hit. Would think these type of dudes would have other options then Boyd to do their dirty work. They obviously have the muscle to threaten Boyd. It was still a really good episode and you have to suspend some disbelief but it is a bit ridiculous.
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This show requires suspension of disbelief every week. Don't see anything inconsistent with the extent to which it's required in this plot line. Plus, for all we know they have other motives for using him that we aren't privy to yet.
 
'Apple Jack said:
'Daywalker said:
'pollardsvision said:
'Abraham said:
'pollardsvision said:
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.

Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.
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Good episode. I like the introduction of the local string-pullers.
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It certainly sets up some good story going forward.I don't think there's any chance that Boyd actually does the murder. That eliminates his chance of ever getting out from under them.

I assume he'll end up working with Raylan to help break loose from these guys.

If nothing else, Raylan will get in the mix because these guys definitely know who Drew Thompson is and there's a good chance one of them actually is him.
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Nitpicking I guess but seems like a stretch that these power-brokers reveal themselves and their methods to back someone into a corner to get them to do a hit. Would think these type of dudes would have other options then Boyd to do their dirty work. They obviously have the muscle to threaten Boyd. It was still a really good episode and you have to suspend some disbelief but it is a bit ridiculous.
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This show requires suspension of disbelief every week. Don't see anything inconsistent with the extent to which it's required in this plot line. Plus, for all we know they have other motives for using him that we aren't privy to yet.
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Maybe this is Boyd's initiation into their inner circle. They all started somewhere.
 
'Charlie Frown said:
'Apple Jack said:
'Daywalker said:
'pollardsvision said:
'Abraham said:
'pollardsvision said:
Pretty excited to see where Boyd goes from here.

Of all the scoundrels he's ever dealt with, it was great to see him realize he's been under the thumb of the worst crooks of all this whole time.
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Good episode. I like the introduction of the local string-pullers.
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It certainly sets up some good story going forward.I don't think there's any chance that Boyd actually does the murder. That eliminates his chance of ever getting out from under them.

I assume he'll end up working with Raylan to help break loose from these guys.

If nothing else, Raylan will get in the mix because these guys definitely know who Drew Thompson is and there's a good chance one of them actually is him.
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Nitpicking I guess but seems like a stretch that these power-brokers reveal themselves and their methods to back someone into a corner to get them to do a hit. Would think these type of dudes would have other options then Boyd to do their dirty work. They obviously have the muscle to threaten Boyd. It was still a really good episode and you have to suspend some disbelief but it is a bit ridiculous.
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This show requires suspension of disbelief every week. Don't see anything inconsistent with the extent to which it's required in this plot line. Plus, for all we know they have other motives for using him that we aren't privy to yet.
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Maybe this is Boyd's initiation into their inner circle. They all started somewhere.
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I hope so. I just think it would have been smarter to have had those power-brokers come at Boyd "Godfather" style and say we need an outside guy to do this as to not arouse suspicion. Exposing themselves and threatening Boyd like they did was a bit weak. Just nitpicking. I do that with this show a lot because it is borderline great. A lot of silliness and lazy writing keeps it from being much more popular. People enjoy the show but don't exactly rave about it as required viewing like a handful of other shows.
 
Just finished season 1-3 in a marathon, bored at work on a night shift. Totally not what I thought it was, I always figured that Olyphant was a Mackey-esque bad cop. For the most part I loved it. Great one-off episodes, good story arcs for the most part. I think they frittered away Goggins, he was great as an avenging evangelical and as a beaten, repentant nihilist, but I don't think he's anywhere near as interesting, well written or acted in his end-of-season-3 incarnation. I also think they really dropped the ball on Winn Duffy, who could conceivably be one of the best TV villains of all time but they had him as second fiddle and therefore restrained too often. I haven't looked into the season 4 cast, but I hope he's back and in charge. The calm demeanor and arched eyebrows are perfect, and he does a great job making minor changes to his expression to fit the situation, particularly when he was in awe/shock of the albino psycho telling his story to the kid with the gun. I'm not a fan of Olyphant, other than this and Deadwood. Someone said in the thread that his wooden-ness fits a small number of characters, otherwise I think he's awful. However, when the character fits his particular skillset, he's knocked it out of the park. I'm pretty impressed with the guest stars and bit parts, especially in a show that's accent-specific. Overall the direction and casting has been well above average and the writing, dialogue most especially, is very good. Really looking forward to season 4.Funny how much Harlan County looks like Hazzard County (ie Southern California).

 
In no way are Goggins and the Wynn Duffy character being wasted. I can see how in Season 3 you would think Goggins wasn't being used enough as the focus was on the new villains. But Goggins was still acting the hell out of every scene he was in and he probably gets the best lines of any character on the show. Every time he speaks his wording is like art. And you'll be happy to know that Season 4 is probably the most Boyd-centric season. Duffy is also great in every scene. He's in Season 4 and is in charge, but he's still used sparingly. But that's the great thing about Justified -- that there's this large well of great characters. You're excited to see them when they show up, and every once in a while each will get a chance to be the focus. If he wasn't put with the albino psycho last season, we wouldn't have gotten all those great reaction shots.

 
Raylan getting the jump on the guy who has killed more people than malaria is bound to ruffle some feathers on Detroit. Love Goggins getting Duffy to take out his enemies. This show is the opposite of sons of anarchy - the longer it goes the more complex and interesting it gets.

 
This might be the best episode of anything FX has put out. Yes, that includes The Shield and Rescue Me (never watched the latter). So much great tension throughout, great scenes, great storytelling, and the sadness that comes with Arlo Givens dying. :(Also, damn there was a lot of death this episode.

 
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