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It was going to be virtually impossible for "Justified" to top, or even equal, the enormous barrel of fun that was "Decoy," which featured every aspect of the show, and every character, operating at peak value. But if "Peace of Mind" couldn't hit that level, it did a fine job of moving the story forward, and wisely went for a different tone. "Decoy" was all smiles and joy (even when Constable Bob was being beaten half to death); "Peace of Mind" was contemplative and full of dread, and it worked quite well.

If anything, my biggest concern about "Peace of Mind" wasn't the episode itself, but what's to come. Even with certain threads dangling — notably Ava's freedom and what becomes of the Crowder gang — this felt an awful lot like a finale to me. Drew is in custody, Ellen May is safe, Tim gets justice for Mark's death, Raylan's on the verge of promotion... what's left?

Well, obviously we have to see if Boyd and Ava can get to Delroy's body in time. And now we have to see how Tonin's men will use Winona to get to Raylan, and from Raylan to Shelby.

Some or all of that could play out very interestingly. There's a high potential cheese factor for a Winona kidnapping story, though at this point, I think Yost and company have earned the benefit of the doubt. But it does feel like the story of the season is mostly done, and all that's left is an extended epilogue.

It'd be hard to ask for a better end than the one-two punch of "Decoy" and "Peace of Mind," though. In particular, the payoff to the Tim/Colton arc was far more satisfying than I could have expected when they first crossed paths. Colton was a sketchy character at times, but that moment when he takes an extra drag on his cigarette, knowing it'll be his final breath on this earth because he'd rather die than keep going, was a thing of beauty. And I loved that Tim pocketed Colt's trademark sunglasses as a measure of the unlikely respect he developed for this guy who also murdered his friend.

I also liked how Ava and Boyd's struggle to find a happy ending that they can both live with. Boyd has always been about self-preservation at all costs, but he loves and respects Ava, and she can't bring herself to kill Ellen May.(*) For all of Boyd's talk about how "you dictate the river of fate through your own actions," his future — at least, the one he had planned with Ava — is out of their control right now, unless they can get to Delroy's body with extreme haste. (Though if that was an option, why didn't they do it the moment Ellen May became a problem?)

(*) Though I thought the storytelling was a bit muddled on what exactly Ellen May was meant to do there. Obviously, it's better for Ava if Ellen May is dead, but for Theo Tonin — and for Boyd's tenuous alliance with the Tonin gang — doesn't Ellen May need to live so her fate can be used to keep Shelby quiet? Once she's dead, there's nothing to prevent him from testifying.

The one thing that the finale could definitely use is some more Raylan. He hasn't been absent these last few weeks, but other characters like Tim and Bob and Ava and Shelby have taken greater prominence. If nothing else, Winona being targeted by Nicky and his guys should put the focus back on the guy in the big hat.

Some other thoughts:

* Winona's having a daughter, which is what Raylan wanted. Assuming he doesn't have another kid, the Givens line ends with him, even if the genes continue.

* Though this was a darker episode than last week, it was good to see Mike O'Malley continuing to enjoy himself enormously as Nicky Augustine. His delivery of "Wow, that sounded fantastic" after Johnny got off the phone with Limehouse was a thing of beauty.

* Art Mullen, not a fan of Julia Roberts: "Looks too much like Eric."

* Art's impending departure hasn't been brought up in a while. Will the events of the finale delay those plans, or will the show's timeline (remember, this season has covered only about two weeks of time for the characters) mean we can spend several seasons of Art counting down the days to retirement?
 
I just hope that at some point in my life, in conversation, I'm as cool as Raylan or Boyd.
Don't we all. A little off track but I think the key to good argumentative banter is to not get overly emotional and barely pay attention to what the other person has to say. Hear just enough to have "canned" witty retorts where you insert their own words against them. The second I let someone push my buttons about all I can come up with is something like "ya...uhh...well... that's stupid and so are you"
 
Some great lines by Art last night.
"First thing we are gonna do is acknowledge that this guy is awesome. I mean, he shoots Theo Tonin, fakes his own death In a spectacular fashion, pushes a guy out of an airplane while he's flying it, parachutes into Harlan County with enough coke and cash to jump start the economy of a small country, and then he has the balls to get a job in law enforcement not once but two times. Spends a couple days riding around with you while your looking for him and now he runs off with a hooker that's half his age. That's some bad-### ####!
Fantastic lines. Given that the Drew Thompson thing was kind of easily called, could it be that Ellie Mae is his daughter, or that she at least reminds him of her (in a retrospective guilt kind of way)?

Either way, I enjoy this show.
No
You sound sure. What did I miss?
Ok, I'm on board. :banned:
 
My favorite line of the show was in the bar when the kid was talking back to Raylan....

The kid: "Why you gotta be such a ####?"

Raylan: " My job, being a ####; it'd be weird if you liked me."

 
My favorite line of the show was in the bar when the kid was talking back to Raylan....The kid: "Why you gotta be such a ####?"Raylan: " My job, being a ####; it'd be weird if you liked me."
I loved Nicky telling Boyd that he needed Google Translate in order to have a conversation with him.
 
I have no idea what's going on. Who is Delroy and why has hiding his body suddebnly taken on such importance? Why is raylans wife back in the picture? Whose kid is she having ? If it is raylans, does he know about it? Was the delivery man someone I should recognize?
Are you sure you're watching justified?
 
I have no idea what's going on. Who is Delroy and why has hiding his body suddebnly taken on such importance? Why is raylans wife back in the picture? Whose kid is she having ? If it is raylans, does he know about it? Was the delivery man someone I should recognize?
Are you sure you're watching justified?
I had this problem earlier in the season when I was finding myself drunk at 10:00 on Tuesdays a bunch of weeks in a row.
 
oh and to answer your questions

delroy owned the brothel and abused ellie may when she couldnt get oxy, after the clinic was shot up and they tried to go to another. he threated raylan at one point but long story short hes the guy eva shot after ellue may escaped when they were dumping bodies in the pond after the one girl git shot during the robbery attempt

yes raylan k.ows its his kid, has known the whole time and they were even talking about it when he walks into rheoffice

the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...

 
'belljr said:
oh and to answer your questionsdelroy owned the brothel and abused ellie may when she couldnt get oxy, after the clinic was shot up and they tried to go to another. he threated raylan at one point but long story short hes the guy eva shot after ellue may escaped when they were dumping bodies in the pond after the one girl git shot during the robbery attemptyes raylan k.ows its his kid, has known the whole time and they were even talking about it when he walks into rheofficethe delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
If you are going to explain Picker, at least, give him credit for being the janitor in the Breakfast Club.
 
'Apple Jack said:
'DA RAIDERS said:
'Abraham said:
I have no idea what's going on. Who is Delroy and why has hiding his body suddebnly taken on such importance? Why is raylans wife back in the picture? Whose kid is she having ? If it is raylans, does he know about it? Was the delivery man someone I should recognize?
Are you sure you're watching justified?
I had this problem earlier in the season when I was finding myself drunk at 10:00 on Tuesdays a bunch of weeks in a row.
Funny, I had the same problem. I just started waiting to watch it on Wednesdays.
 
I gotta say, I was a little disappointed in this week's episode. Pretty anticlimactic. And the whole thing set up at the end seemed forced and just, frankly, dumb.

 
Agreed - but it was tough to match last week.

Whatever happens next week, this is the end of Raylan's old lady's story. She's gone - Raylan probably lets her run far away to be safe with his daughter.

And Ava is going to croak.

 
Good episode, wrapped things up neatly - I am more of a cliffhanger guy and those were minor.

What was the purpose of showing the church lady at the scene where Ava was being arrested? I didn't see how she played into it at all.

 
Now that the body has been found isn't Boyd still in hot water?

Great episode. The tarmac scene was perfect.

Thought it was weak that the chief didn't think Raylan had anything to do with the death of the guy in the limo. Can't keep track with all the names of the Detroit guys.

Also the guy running the cop who caught Ava. Wouldn't you want Boyd on your side as opposed to having him free and wanting to kill you?

Would have preferred Boyd and Ava dispose of the body and we gear up for a Duffy season. A Duffy season and then the final season of Raylan vs. Boyd. Likely going to be that anyway.

 
Good episode, wrapped things up neatly - I am more of a cliffhanger guy and those were minor. What was the purpose of showing the church lady at the scene where Ava was being arrested? I didn't see how she played into it at all.
She might have told the cops about the body in the mine in the first place, and im guessing she wanted to come see the fruits of her efforts. Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
 
Good episode, wrapped things up neatly - I am more of a cliffhanger guy and those were minor. What was the purpose of showing the church lady at the scene where Ava was being arrested? I didn't see how she played into it at all.
She might have told the cops about the body in the mine in the first place, and im guessing she wanted to come see the fruits of her efforts.Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
Still doesn't fit. Even if she did tell the cops Delroy was in the hole, the whole set up at the end was completely independent of that act.

Also, regarding the tarmac scene, a little questionable that Raylan could have arranged that on what appeared to be very short notice.

 
Good episode, wrapped things up neatly - I am more of a cliffhanger guy and those were minor. What was the purpose of showing the church lady at the scene where Ava was being arrested? I didn't see how she played into it at all.
She might have told the cops about the body in the mine in the first place, and im guessing she wanted to come see the fruits of her efforts.Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
Still doesn't fit. Even if she did tell the cops Delroy was in the hole, the whole set up at the end was completely independent of that act. Also, regarding the tarmac scene, a little questionable that Raylan could have arranged that on what appeared to be very short notice.
Agree it wasn't clean from a plot perspective. Maybe one of the cops she was working with have her the heads up about the bust. Either way, that scene was worth it because it brought the church storyline to a close in an emotionally satisfying way. Flight from Detroit to Kentucky would not be long.
 
Good episode, wrapped things up neatly - I am more of a cliffhanger guy and those were minor. What was the purpose of showing the church lady at the scene where Ava was being arrested? I didn't see how she played into it at all.
She might have told the cops about the body in the mine in the first place, and im guessing she wanted to come see the fruits of her efforts.Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
Still doesn't fit. Even if she did tell the cops Delroy was in the hole, the whole set up at the end was completely independent of that act.

Also, regarding the tarmac scene, a little questionable that Raylan could have arranged that on what appeared to be very short notice.
What do you mean it doesn't fit? Why else would she be shown there?

Lil' Tonin has access to a jet plane.

It was the season finale, Abe.

 
From Graham Yost's weekly recap with EW.com:

So at what point exactly did Raylan call Sammy?He would’ve called Sammy on the drive up with Boyd.

He had to fly in.Right. But, I mean, the drive from Harlan to Lexington takes two hours. So somewhere in there. Or, perhaps he did call him beforehand.

And it was Cassie (Lindsay Pulsipher), who Boyd saw there when he was on the ground, who gave police the tip about the body?Yes. This is her revenge for the death of her brother. That’s the chicken that comes home to roost. Something that started in the first act of the season pays off in the third.

 
From Graham Yost's weekly recap with EW.com:

So at what point exactly did Raylan call Sammy?He would’ve called Sammy on the drive up with Boyd.

He had to fly in.Right. But, I mean, the drive from Harlan to Lexington takes two hours. So somewhere in there. Or, perhaps he did call him beforehand.

And it was Cassie (Lindsay Pulsipher), who Boyd saw there when he was on the ground, who gave police the tip about the body?Yes. This is her revenge for the death of her brother. That’s the chicken that comes home to roost. Something that started in the first act of the season pays off in the third.
Thansk for that info. I still think Cassie is an odd fit in that scene as she may have rattted out Ava - but how did she end up at the scene where Ava was attempting to dispose of the body?

Ratting on Ava was completely independent of Boyd's attempted cover up and Ava getting arrested. Only Paxton and the bad cops would have been in on busting Ava - and hopefully Boyd - in a cover up. So how does Cassie get the inside scoop? Cassie's revenge was done when she ratted out Ava.

 
From Graham Yost's weekly recap with EW.com:

So at what point exactly did Raylan call Sammy?He would’ve called Sammy on the drive up with Boyd.

He had to fly in.Right. But, I mean, the drive from Harlan to Lexington takes two hours. So somewhere in there. Or, perhaps he did call him beforehand.

And it was Cassie (Lindsay Pulsipher), who Boyd saw there when he was on the ground, who gave police the tip about the body?Yes. This is her revenge for the death of her brother. That’s the chicken that comes home to roost. Something that started in the first act of the season pays off in the third.
And I have to guess those questions are being asked as they are "loose" ends. It's not even answered when Raylan called Sammy.

 
From Graham Yost's weekly recap with EW.com:

So at what point exactly did Raylan call Sammy?He would’ve called Sammy on the drive up with Boyd.

He had to fly in.Right. But, I mean, the drive from Harlan to Lexington takes two hours. So somewhere in there. Or, perhaps he did call him beforehand.

And it was Cassie (Lindsay Pulsipher), who Boyd saw there when he was on the ground, who gave police the tip about the body?Yes. This is her revenge for the death of her brother. That’s the chicken that comes home to roost. Something that started in the first act of the season pays off in the third.
Thansk for that info. I still think Cassie is an odd fit in that scene as she may have rattted out Ava - but how did she end up at the scene where Ava was attempting to dispose of the body?

Ratting on Ava was completely independent of Boyd's attempted cover up and Ava getting arrested. Only Paxton and the bad cops would have been in on busting Ava - and hopefully Boyd - in a cover up. So how does Cassie get the inside scoop? Cassie's revenge was done when she ratted out Ava.
Makes sense if you consider that with Cassie's tip, the Harlan Illuminati has the upper hand and can retake control from Boyd. Without, it's just a power struggle between 2 evil parties. Relying on Cassie's info they can be the good guys and take down Boyd. So no, they didn't need her in order to show up at the time of the body dump but it gives them a valid excuse to be there.

 
Did Sammy have enough time to get to the meet on the tarmac? How does that even make the list of improbable things on basically every episode of this show?

I mean Ava did pull a gun out on Ellie Mae and contemplate killing her. Ava's partner Cole was about to kill Ellie Mae before he was put down. So Ava just walks away at that point? Was that not a good time to crowbar in the Cassie's "revenge."

 
oh and to answer your questions...the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
I don't think Picker went to school with Boyd, you're confusing that with Raylan

Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
I assumed it was because he was a witness to Colt's murder of the drug dealer in the house.

And I have to guess those questions are being asked as they are "loose" ends. It's not even answered when Raylan called Sammy.
Raylan found out that Theo Tonin had fled the country and Sammy is in charge outside Winona's house after the morning shootout. He talked to her in the ambulance and said he is going to meet Nicky and take care of the situation. Theoretically he hatched his plan after exiting the ambulance, and has placed the call to Sammy well before he even went to Boyd that evening to setup the meet with Nicky. Convenient? perhaps, but I'd say there was plenty of time for it to happen.

 
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Sorry, I meant the sniper from Detroit (during that scene where the block the road the decoy convey was taking with car bombs).

 
Sorry, I meant the sniper from Detroit (during that scene where the block the road the decoy convey was taking with car bombs).
Oh, my bad. Good question, and one they kinda glossed over. Maybe it was part of Boyd's plan to even to odds if things went south with Nicky. Although I fail to see how that makes sense. If you start knocking off Tonin's men, he's just going to send more, and I assume someone was going to wonder where sniper dude ran off to. Blame it in the Marshalls?? Maybe Colt made the call on his own.

Either way, never explained and it just seems like a throwaway.

 
Sorry, I meant the sniper from Detroit (during that scene where the block the road the decoy convey was taking with car bombs).
Oh, my bad. Good question, and one they kinda glossed over. Maybe it was part of Boyd's plan to even to odds if things went south with Nicky. Although I fail to see how that makes sense. If you start knocking off Tonin's men, he's just going to send more, and I assume someone was going to wonder where sniper dude ran off to. Blame it in the Marshalls?? Maybe Colt made the call on his own. Either way, never explained and it just seems like a throwaway.
Yeah, it stuck out to me because it looked like the beginning of a power play by Boyd, but then they never followed up and Boyd continued to be a lapdog for the Detroit guys for the duration of the season. Maybe it was just supposed to show how off the rails colt was.
 
oh and to answer your questions...the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
I don't think Picker went to school with Boyd, you're confusing that with Raylan

>Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?
I assumed it was because he was a witness to Colt's murder of the drug dealer in the house.

And I have to guess those questions are being asked as they are "loose" ends. It's not even answered when Raylan called Sammy.
Raylan found out that Theo Tonin had fled the country and Sammy is in charge outside Winona's house after the morning shootout. He talked to her in the ambulance and said he is going to meet Nicky and take care of the situation. Theoretically he hatched his plan after exiting the ambulance, and has placed the call to Sammy well before he even went to Boyd that evening to setup the meet with Nicky. Convenient? perhaps, but I'd say there was plenty of time for it to happen.
Not to bicker but you are assuming that he knew when and where he would meet Augustyne before he even went to Boyd. I don't think Raylan could have known at that point that Aug would be waiting for a plane.

 
oh and to answer your questions...the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
I don't think Picker went to school with Boyd, you're confusing that with Raylan
huh? the guy that delivered the chair was the same guy that went with boyd to the school and had the standoff with bob and raylanthey even mention in the finale how he should have finished raylan off at the school and he says the cops showed up:shrug:
 
Jessica Christmas the post quoting is ####ed. I'm done trying to mess with it so, The Dude - I agree with your last post, and belljr, my bad I misread your post. Thought you were saying Picker went to school with Boyd (as in childhood buddies) not that he went to THE school with Boyd to get Shelby. Ooops

 
The Dude said:
coyote5 said:
oh and to answer your questions...the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
I don't think Picker went to school with Boyd, you're confusing that with Raylan

>>Was it ever explained why colt killed that other sniper from Detroit?

lockquote>I assumed it was because he was a witness to Colt's murder of the drug dealer in the house.

>And I have to guess those questions are being asked as they are "loose" ends. It's not even answered when Raylan called Sammy.
Raylan found out that Theo Tonin had fled the country and Sammy is in charge outside Winona's house after the morning shootout. He talked to her in the ambulance and said he is going to meet Nicky and take care of the situation. Theoretically he hatched his plan after exiting the ambulance, and has placed the call to Sammy well before he even went to Boyd that evening to setup the meet with Nicky. Convenient? perhaps, but I'd say there was plenty of time for it to happen.
Not to bicker but you are assuming that he knew when and where he would meet Augustyne before he even went to Boyd. I don't think Raylan could have known at that point that Aug would be waiting for a plane.
Doesn't matter where the meet would be, anyone coming in quick from Detroit would do so by plane.
 
Raylan calls Sammy. Sammy, not being unacquainted with his father's network, arranges to be on the plane that Nicky is waiting for. He then calls Rayan back and tells him where and when the plane is getting in. The Dude is making this way more difficult than it needs to be.

 
belljr said:
coyote5 said:
oh and to answer your questions...the delivery guy is the detroit right hand man, went to the school with boyd...
I don't think Picker went to school with Boyd, you're confusing that with Raylan
huh? the guy that delivered the chair was the same guy that went with boyd to the school and had the standoff with bob and raylanthey even mention in the finale how he should have finished raylan off at the school and he says the cops showed up :shrug:
I think the confusion is "went to the school" and" went to school"

 
Raylan calls Sammy. Sammy, not being unacquainted with his father's network, arranges to be on the plane that Nicky is waiting for. He then calls Rayan back and tells him where and when the plane is getting in. The Dude is making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
No offense, AJ, but you are missing the mark by a mile. Sammy thanked Raylan for calling him.

 
Raylan calls Sammy. Sammy, not being unacquainted with his father's network, arranges to be on the plane that Nicky is waiting for. He then calls Rayan back and tells him where and when the plane is getting in. The Dude is making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
No offense, AJ, but you are missing the mark by a mile. Sammy thanked Raylan for calling him.
None taken.

 
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Raylan calls Sammy. Sammy, not being unacquainted with his father's network, arranges to be on the plane that Nicky is waiting for. He then calls Rayan back and tells him where and when the plane is getting in. The Dude is making this way more difficult than it needs to be.
No offense, AJ, but you are missing the mark by a mile. Sammy thanked Raylan for calling him.
Yes, Raylan called Sammy.
Sorry, I missed the mark on your post.

I don't think your idea holds up logically - under your scenario, Raylan doesn't need Boyd

 

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