Justin Blackmon Suspended Indefinitely (2 Viewers)

[KellysHeroes]

gave up:
Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.09

gave up:
Decker, Eric DEN WR

not me

 

[ghostguy123]

gave up:

Blackmon, Justin JAC WR

Year 2014 Draft Pick 1.09

gave up:

Decker, Eric DEN WR

not me

I will pretty easily take Blackmon and pick 9 even if Decker stays in Denver

 

[Faust]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

 

[ghostguy123]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

 

[ghostguy123]

I suppose I just don't care what coaches and GMs say in the media since 99.9% of it proves to be fruitless anyway. Especially around draft time. They trying to make people think they will go with a WR?

You know damn well Blackmon is going to be reinstated.

 

[ghostguy123]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

Yeah, and all that. They guy can't even really say anything about him even if he wants to.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

they can't get reports on his health?

You know what funny, every player that gets suspended indef is deemed finished.... but Blackmon is going to comeback a stud. Yeah, ok

 

[False Start]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

they can't get reports on his health?

You know what funny, every player that gets suspended indef is deemed finished.... but Blackmon is going to comeback a stud. Yeah, ok

He gets suspended because he likes the Corona bottle too much, but all of a sudden he lost his god given talent too?

 

[ghostguy123]

Who else has been suspended indefinitely, and why?

 

[cusefan115]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

they can't get reports on his health?

You know what funny, every player that gets suspended indef is deemed finished.... but Blackmon is going to comeback a stud. Yeah, ok

He gets suspended because he likes the Corona bottle too much, but all of a sudden he lost his god given talent too?

Yeah. I see Blackmon as a pretty binary proposition. He is either suspended and gone from the league or he keeps himself clean and is a stud. Just my opinion.

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah. I see Blackmon as a pretty binary proposition. He is either suspended and gone from the league or he keeps himself clean and is a stud. Just my opinion.

I see it the same way, which is why I value his about the same as a pick in the top part of the rookie draft. Those guys may or may not be good players. We already know Blackmon is a good player.

I think his chances of staying clean are better than all but a few of the rookies chances of being good.

 

[cusefan115]

Yeah. I see Blackmon as a pretty binary proposition. He is either suspended and gone from the league or he keeps himself clean and is a stud. Just my opinion.

I see it the same way, which is why I value his about the same as a pick in the top part of the rookie draft. Those guys may or may not be good players. We already know Blackmon is a good player.

I think his chances of staying clean are better than all but a few of the rookies chances of being good.

Agree 100%. I've got him in one league and really don't mind holding him. There's just so much talent there.

 

[Phenix]

League rules help here. I don't mind holding because a player who is suspended can go on our IR. Looked at the same way as an injury, beyond owners control.

Just traded for him giving up a scrub an early second this year and a first next year. I love his elite upside.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Who else has been suspended indefinitely, and why?

April 10, 2007 Entire 2007 season Adam "Pacman" Jones CB Tennessee Titans Attacking a stripper and threatening a security guard's life August 13, 2009 Entire 2009 season Donte Stallworth WR Cleveland Browns Crashed into and killed a pedestrian while DUI October 23, 1995 Indefinite Bernard Williams LT Philadelphia Eagles [108] September 22, 2010 IndefinitefTanard Jackson FS Tampa Bay Buccaneers August 31, 2012 IndefinitefTanard Jackson FS Washington Redskins November 1, 2013

Indefinite Justin Blackmon WR Jacksonville Jaguars [157] December 18, 2013 Indefinite Brandon Browner CB Seattle Seahawks [160] February 19, 2014 Indefinite Fred Davis TE Washington Redskins [161]

 

[KellysHeroes]

League rules help here. I don't mind holding because a player who is suspended can go on our IR. Looked at the same way as an injury, beyond owners control.

Just traded for him giving up a scrub an early second this year and a first next year. I love his elite upside.

I disagree, hes suspended and its his own fault. My league rules are a player can only be placed on FF IR if the player is on real IR. If the player is suspended then the FF owner has to suck it up.

 

[False Start]

Jags GM: Justin Blackmon's return would be 'luxury'

I am not sure what people will read into this, but I don't get anything from it. At least no more than we already know, which is that he probably misses a chunk of this season.

it says a lot IMO, instead of saying "hes doing well and we expect him to be a Jaguar again", their mindset is "if he comes back, great, if not thats ok we've moved on."

Heh. What do you expect them to say? They can't contact him so saying hes doing really well, or anything that suggest contact would be an infraction.They called him a "luxury" due to his very friendly contract.

You are on a mission to bash this guy. You either sold short, your fault, or just don't like him. Either way I look forward to seeing how this plays out. I'm cautiously optimistic here.

they can't get reports on his health?

You know what funny, every player that gets suspended indef is deemed finished.... but Blackmon is going to comeback a stud. Yeah, ok

He gets suspended because he likes the Corona bottle too much, but all of a sudden he lost his god given talent too?

Yeah. I see Blackmon as a pretty binary proposition. He is either suspended and gone from the league or he keeps himself clean and is a stud. Just my opinion.

His upside is pretty high, what would his value be if he wasn't a risk? Good player and two firsts or something like that. That is a good reason to acquire guys like this since all of fantasy is a risk anyways.

 

[Faust]

Bradley misses talks with Blackmon

By Michael DiRocco | ESPN.com

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Jaguars coach Gus Bradley would like to be able to sit down with suspended receiver Justin Blackmon and have a conversation the way they did during Blackmon's early-season suspension in 2013.

But the two have had only minimal contact via text messages because NFL rules prohibit Blackmon from visiting the team's facility while serving an indefinite suspension for his third violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

"I wish I could have a more extended conversation with him," Bradley said Tuesday. "My feelings toward him haven't changed. I still care about him.

"To be able to sit down and visit with him, that part I miss."

That used to be a regular occurrence. They would sit down each week during the season and have conversations that sometimes lasted more than an hour. Most of those talks had nothing to do with football. But Bradley hasn't had any contact with Blackmon for several weeks.

Bradley had heard that Blackmon was back in Jacksonville and that was confirmed when he heard about Blackmon's early-morning, one-car accident on March 15.

The Jaguars are still unsure of Blackmon's availability for the 2014 season -- he will be able to petition NFL commissioner Roger Goodell for reinstatement before the season begins -- and the team is planning on being without him.

The Jaguars already added receiver Tandon Doss in free agency and Bradley said the team will likely draft at least one more receiver.

"It's something that we will address," Bradley said. "We looked at [Emmanuel] Sanders and didn't get him. Somewhere in those 11 picks, yeah, you'll probably see us take a wide receiver. We'll see. We've got to take best available."

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

GM Dave Caldwell said suspended WR Justin Blackmon playing in 2014 is "not something we're counting on."
Caldwell added he would be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon played this season. Blackmon is in the midst of an indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. Caldwell has already said that the team is treating Blackmon as a "luxury" but will welcome him back when the ban is over.

Source: Ryan O'Halloran on Twitter

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

GM Dave Caldwell said suspended WR Justin Blackmon playing in 2014 is "not something we're counting on."
Caldwell added he would be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon played this season. Blackmon is in the midst of an indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. Caldwell has already said that the team is treating Blackmon as a "luxury" but will welcome him back when the ban is over.

Source: Ryan O'Halloran on Twitter

Are we not getting the full story with Blackmon?

If his rehab went well and he is clean then there's no real to be "relatively surprised" if he plays this year. Seems like he has a bigger problem than we are being led to believe.

 

[cdubz]

Rotoworld:

GM Dave Caldwell said suspended WR Justin Blackmon playing in 2014 is "not something we're counting on."
Caldwell added he would be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon played this season. Blackmon is in the midst of an indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. Caldwell has already said that the team is treating Blackmon as a "luxury" but will welcome him back when the ban is over.

Source: Ryan O'Halloran on Twitter

Are we not getting the full story with Blackmon?

If his rehab went well and he is clean then there's no real to be "relatively surprised" if he plays this year. Seems like he has a bigger problem than we are being led to believe.

Possible. Also possible that Caldwell is setting the expectation bar really low. If you say you weren't counting on him and he screws up again - no biggie, but if he screws up once you expect him back then players could take a motivational hit.

 

[Faust]

Jaguars GM: Justin Blackmon playing in '14 unlikelyBy Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

At February's combine, Jaguars general manager David Caldwell called the potential return of wide receiver Justin Blackmon "a luxury" for Jacksonville if it happened.

The odds don't sound promising.

"It's not something we're counting on," Caldwell told reporters Friday, per Ryan O'Halloran of The Florida Times-Union, adding that he'd be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon suited up in 2014 after being suspended indefinitely without pay for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

Caldwell said in February that the Jaguars haven't been in regular contact with Blackmon, the fifth-overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, citing "certain rules that we have to abide by" from the NFL Players Association and the league office. The third-year wideout would need to be reinstated by the league first, something NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport on Friday called no guarantee, per sources informed of the situation.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for a promising young Jaguars team with Cecil Shorts and Ace Sanders penciled in at the position alongside Mike Brown. Last season, Blackmon lit up the field with his post-catch playmaking ability and an outrageous 19 catches for 326 yards in his first two games back from suspension.

The Jaguars can release him without owing another cent, so there's no harm in keeping his rights heading into the season. From another angle, an especially daring club could, in theory, attempt to secure Blackmon in a trade. That would be surprising, but the current regime didn't cause this headache -- they inherited it.

The latest "Around The League Podcast" runs through the latest NFL draft headlines and takes a look at which coaches and GMs are lying about their intentions.

 

[JaxBill]

Rotoworld:

GM Dave Caldwell said suspended WR Justin Blackmon playing in 2014 is "not something we're counting on."
Caldwell added he would be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon played this season. Blackmon is in the midst of an indefinite suspension for multiple violations of the league's substance-abuse policy. Caldwell has already said that the team is treating Blackmon as a "luxury" but will welcome him back when the ban is over.

Source: Ryan O'Halloran on Twitter

Are we not getting the full story with Blackmon?

If his rehab went well and he is clean then there's no real to be "relatively surprised" if he plays this year. Seems like he has a bigger problem than we are being led to believe.

In a word: yes.

He was suspended indefinitely. There is no set time for his return.

It's not like they suspended him for a year.

The team isn't sure when he can even APPLY for reinstatement.

And when he applies, he might find out how long his suspension really is.

We have no idea how many failed tests there have been (although it would appear the minimum is at least four over his career).

Team has had no contact with him and I'm not sure if he's even in town right now.

 

[JaxBill]

Jaguars GM: Justin Blackmon playing in '14 unlikely

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

At February's combine, Jaguars general manager David Caldwell called the potential return of wide receiver Justin Blackmon "a luxury" for Jacksonville if it happened.

The odds don't sound promising.

"It's not something we're counting on," Caldwell told reporters Friday, per Ryan O'Halloran of The Florida Times-Union, adding that he'd be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon suited up in 2014 after being suspended indefinitely without pay for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

Caldwell said in February that the Jaguars haven't been in regular contact with Blackmon, the fifth-overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, citing "certain rules that we have to abide by" from the NFL Players Association and the league office. The third-year wideout would need to be reinstated by the league first, something NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport on Friday called no guarantee, per sources informed of the situation.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for a promising young Jaguars team with Cecil Shorts and Ace Sanders penciled in at the position alongside Mike Brown. Last season, Blackmon lit up the field with his post-catch playmaking ability and an outrageous 19 catches for 326 yards in his first two games back from suspension.

The Jaguars can release him without owing another cent, so there's no harm in keeping his rights heading into the season. From another angle, an especially daring club could, in theory, attempt to secure Blackmon in a trade. That would be surprising, but the current regime didn't cause this headache -- they inherited it.

The latest "Around The League Podcast" runs through the latest NFL draft headlines and takes a look at which coaches and GMs are lying about their intentions.

I'm not sure this is 100 percent true. Unless they changed the rule, I thought the team could not cut him while he was suspended.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

 

[msommer]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Responsibly?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8298b223/article/justin-blackmons-blood-alcohol-was-three-times-limit

 

[JaxBill]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Those are the terms for any NFL suspension. He doesn't like it, complain to the union rep.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Responsibly?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8298b223/article/justin-blackmons-blood-alcohol-was-three-times-limit

I know what he did wasn't being responsible, I was referring to when he does pay his dept he should be able to drink just like every other player in the NFL. I'm pretty sure other players get drunk and are way over the legal limit.

 

[domvin]

I hate seeing this thread get bumped....heart jumps in throat.

Post 369. So, he can petition to Goodell to be reinstated but there are no guarantees he will be reinstated, thus you cant count on him.

Caldwell and Bradley cant say they are counting on him, if they do, then they are assuming the reinstatement is a given, thus influencing or drawing the ire of commish goodell. Its all lip service, we dont want to force goodells hand. Play their cards right, blackmon keeps his nose clean, and it will happen.

 

[KellysHeroes]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Those are the terms for any NFL suspension. He doesn't like it, complain to the union rep.

thats what I been pointing out in this thread for months, the deck is really stacked against him considering the substance their testing him for is available at every corner store on the street. If he wants to come back to the NFL hes gotta stay sober.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Jaguars GM: Justin Blackmon playing in '14 unlikely

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

At February's combine, Jaguars general manager David Caldwell called the potential return of wide receiver Justin Blackmon "a luxury" for Jacksonville if it happened.

The odds don't sound promising.

"It's not something we're counting on," Caldwell told reporters Friday, per Ryan O'Halloran of The Florida Times-Union, adding that he'd be "relatively surprised" if Blackmon suited up in 2014 after being suspended indefinitely without pay for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

Caldwell said in February that the Jaguars haven't been in regular contact with Blackmon, the fifth-overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, citing "certain rules that we have to abide by" from the NFL Players Association and the league office. The third-year wideout would need to be reinstated by the league first, something NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport on Friday called no guarantee, per sources informed of the situation.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for a promising young Jaguars team with Cecil Shorts and Ace Sanders penciled in at the position alongside Mike Brown. Last season, Blackmon lit up the field with his post-catch playmaking ability and an outrageous 19 catches for 326 yards in his first two games back from suspension.

The Jaguars can release him without owing another cent, so there's no harm in keeping his rights heading into the season. From another angle, an especially daring club could, in theory, attempt to secure Blackmon in a trade. That would be surprising, but the current regime didn't cause this headache -- they inherited it.

The latest "Around The League Podcast" runs through the latest NFL draft headlines and takes a look at which coaches and GMs are lying about their intentions.

I'm not sure this is 100 percent true. Unless they changed the rule, I thought the team could not cut him while he was suspended.

They can cut him 1 yr from when his suspension began, I think. Or maybe part of the terms of being suspended indef is that u can be cut anytime.

 

[RBM]

Man what a shame. Incredible waste of talent.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Those are the terms for any NFL suspension. He doesn't like it, complain to the union rep.

thats what I been pointing out in this thread for months, the deck is really stacked against him considering the substance their testing him for is available at every corner store on the street. If he wants to come back to the NFL hes gotta stay sober.

Again, there are many NFL players who don't stay sober, so why should Blackmon have to stay clean once he has paid his fines / suspensions? I know, it's in the NFL bargaining agreement. It is legal to drink for crying out loud, so I don't believe such harsh restrictions should be applied to Blackmon once he's paid his debt. They are setting him up for 100% failure. He should be able to drink socially once his suspension is over and fines are paid. Do they make Joe Smoe quit drinking after he pays his fines for a DUI? Why should the NFL be any different?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

When you're governed by the NFL's CBA, and you have multiple DUIs this is how it goes. Not passing judgment -- it's just how it is.

 

[EBF]

Everything is speculation at this point.

In FF I'd treat him the same way the Jags are treating him. Don't assume that he'll give you anything, but he's a nice luxury to have in your back pocket.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Everything is speculation at this point.

In FF I'd treat him the same way the Jags are treating him. Don't assume that he'll give you anything, but he's a nice luxury to have in your back pocket.

that's the way ya gotta look at it.

He's one of the few guys who can become a difference maker so he has value, but there is a good shot he ends up worthless. He's an all or nothing gamble.

 

[Sabertooth]

Everything is speculation at this point.

In FF I'd treat him the same way the Jags are treating him. Don't assume that he'll give you anything, but he's a nice luxury to have in your back pocket.

This is what I did. I sent the other guy Trent Richardson for him....so basically swapped wildcards. At least when Blackmon is on the field he performs.

 

[cstu]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Those are the terms for any NFL suspension. He doesn't like it, complain to the union rep.

thats what I been pointing out in this thread for months, the deck is really stacked against him considering the substance their testing him for is available at every corner store on the street. If he wants to come back to the NFL hes gotta stay sober.

Again, there are many NFL players who don't stay sober, so why should Blackmon have to stay clean once he has paid his fines / suspensions? I know, it's in the NFL bargaining agreement. It is legal to drink for crying out loud, so I don't believe such harsh restrictions should be applied to Blackmon once he's paid his debt. They are setting him up for 100% failure. He should be able to drink socially once his suspension is over and fines are paid. Do they make Joe Smoe quit drinking after he pays his fines for a DUI? Why should the NFL be any different?

It's stupid and unfair, but it's in the CBA.

 

[Milkman]

Everything is speculation at this point.

In FF I'd treat him the same way the Jags are treating him. Don't assume that he'll give you anything, but he's a nice luxury to have in your back pocket.

that's the way ya gotta look at it.

He's one of the few guys who can become a difference maker so he has value, but there is a good shot he ends up worthless. He's an all or nothing gamble.

I'd put it at close to 70% he becomes worthless. Sucks. He killed my team last year. I can't trade him for anything either.

 

[KellysHeroes]

It's completely possible (probable?) that Blackmon, (who couldn't stay clean for four weeks after his last suspension) has failed additional testing since being suspended. We wouldn't hear about it since there's no change to his NFL status but it would prevent him from being reinstated for a lengthy period.

Isn't all this about booze? I thought booze was legal? If he has paid the penalties for past transgressions, how can they deny him something that is legal to everyone else in the NFL, especially if he drinks responsibly?

Those are the terms for any NFL suspension. He doesn't like it, complain to the union rep.

thats what I been pointing out in this thread for months, the deck is really stacked against him considering the substance their testing him for is available at every corner store on the street. If he wants to come back to the NFL hes gotta stay sober.

Again, there are many NFL players who don't stay sober, so why should Blackmon have to stay clean once he has paid his fines / suspensions? I know, it's in the NFL bargaining agreement. It is legal to drink for crying out loud, so I don't believe such harsh restrictions should be applied to Blackmon once he's paid his debt. They are setting him up for 100% failure. He should be able to drink socially once his suspension is over and fines are paid. Do they make Joe Smoe quit drinking after he pays his fines for a DUI? Why should the NFL be any different?

It's stupid and unfair, but it's in the CBA.

How many get multiple DUIs in a short period of time like Justin did, believe it or not this is for the kids' own good. He was on a crash course to destruction and probably had no intention of seeking help until his job got taken away. Yes booze is legal but there should be a lot more restrictions on it... like if you get arrested for being intoxicated you shouldn't be allowed to purchase or consume it for 6 months.

The NFL and players agreed to these rules to clean up their image, playing for the NFL is a privilage not a right.

 

[Zyphros]

I hate seeing this thread get bumped....heart jumps in throat.

As a new Blackmon owner, mine does the same. Beginning to regret my decision.

 

[Brewtown]

They are playing their situation to try and trade down. Threatening to take Watkins....

Smart move....

 

[bonesman]

I hate seeing this thread get bumped....heart jumps in throat.

As a new Blackmon owner, mine does the same. Beginning to regret my decision.

Why? No news is bad news with Blackmon. I'm waiting to see the day this thread is bumped with a news item talking about how Blackmon has a meeting scheduled with Goodell or how he's filed for reinstatement. We're gonna want to see a string of (positive) news blurbs on Blackmon over the next few months. If he has another bad incident (like if he was drinking in that accident he had a few weeks ago), he's basically droppable.

 

[ghostguy123]

I will have to buy him up wherever I can if people are going to lower his value a lot (leagues with non-small rosters)

This is though for the FFPC though. I have him on a team and it really is rough to carry a wasted roster spot all year.

 

[Sabertooth]

I hate seeing this thread get bumped....heart jumps in throat.

As a new Blackmon owner, mine does the same. Beginning to regret my decision.

dont panic now. Hold him. If he comes back he will start for you. He's got tremendous talent. He's only 24 years old. Barring another incident with alcohol, he will play again in the NFL. Lots could happen but I a 100% certain he hasn't played his last down. I can't see Goodell doing any type of permanent ban unless Blackmon has another incident. I think he will mature and have a career like Brandon Marshall. It isn't going to come down to Goodell, it's going to come down to Blackmon. I think he rights the ship.

 

[identikit]

Zero alcohol will be very tough for him, IMO.

 

[Milkman]

Yeah close to impossible.

I'd trade him right now for a 2nd pick in this draft and be happy about it. He was fantastic when he played too. The odds are so stacked against him though.

 

[jurb26]

I don't know they could get a 2 for him at this point. There is just too much risk involved. I think they get a 3 at best.