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Kevin Smith ankle injury (1 Viewer)

Big John2

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In Saturdays FBG’s update (just sent out):

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Smith is unlikely to be a big factor until at least week 15 in the wake of this injury. He can be dropped in shallow leagues.

I thought I had read yesterday that he avoided serious injury and might even go this week, but then I hear this. Between Fred Jackson on IR and now this I am pretty screwed at RB in one of my leagues. Will Morris be the guy going forward?

Edited title: Joe Bryant

 
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Well, while it was sent in the FBG's daily e-mail, it wasnt FBGs that said it -- merely reporting what was said on SXM that was based on early indications. More recent reports suggest that it might not be a high ankle sprain. You need to be very careful taking the information in the daily e-mail too literally -- sometimes there are conflicting stories within the same e-mail. Just FBGs sending out all of the news, with their comment based on an early report. FBGs probably should have put a more recent news item on Smith in with this one.

It appears to be too soon to really know what his status is.

 
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I, too, found that update a bit outdated.

It's the Friday update, mailed Saturday morning, and links a tweet (not an article) from Thursday 11/24.

It seems there's more timely and counter-indicative information available regarding Kevin Smith injury, which would at least give cause for pause.

Though they only stated that he "can be dropped in shallow leagues," that qualification seems to be just that, a way to couch the advice against criticism.

IMO, Kevin Smith has performed well enough that he's worth a spot in most leagues. IF the more recent information is correct, he may play in week 13 or 14, which could be enough to let folks know if he's a good play in week 15 or week 16, which are kind of important weeks in this game.

For me, he's a HOLD. I'm not counting on him. But I'm certainly not bailing.

 
Here is the latest news sent to Footballguys Subscribers. "Kevin Smith suffered an injury to his right ankle in Week 12. Smith said after the game that an X-ray was negative. "It wasn't that bad, it's just a matter of I couldn't cut," Smith said. "My X-ray came back negative ... I think we've just got to do further tests." The early reports were that it was a high ankle sprain but there are reports now that the injury might be less serious. Stay tuned."

Caution is advised as there are conflicting reports on this as to how serious it is.

J

 
Here is the latest news sent to Footballguys Subscribers. "Kevin Smith suffered an injury to his right ankle in Week 12. Smith said after the game that an X-ray was negative. "It wasn't that bad, it's just a matter of I couldn't cut," Smith said. "My X-ray came back negative ... I think we've just got to do further tests." The early reports were that it was a high ankle sprain but there are reports now that the injury might be less serious. Stay tuned."Caution is advised as there are conflicting reports on this as to how serious it is.J
I'm a subscriber. I guess I didn't get that email yet.I got the one cited in the OP 90 minutes ago.
 
Here is the latest news sent to Footballguys Subscribers. "Kevin Smith suffered an injury to his right ankle in Week 12. Smith said after the game that an X-ray was negative. "It wasn't that bad, it's just a matter of I couldn't cut," Smith said. "My X-ray came back negative ... I think we've just got to do further tests." The early reports were that it was a high ankle sprain but there are reports now that the injury might be less serious. Stay tuned."Caution is advised as there are conflicting reports on this as to how serious it is.J
Hey Joe, I also did not receive that update and I am a subscriber. Am I not receiving some of the emails?
 
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Sounds like bad news here to me. I trust Will Carroll.

From Twitter Injury Expert Will Carroll

injuryexpert

Will Carroll

Just confirmed with not one, not two, not three, but five sources. Kevin smith has a high ankle sprain.

14 hours ago

 
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latest FBG top200 rankings for Detroit RBs: KSmith RB6, Keiland Will RB16, Morris RB59. The numerical rankings is debatable but the order has to be a mistake. Or am I missing something?

 
latest FBG top200 rankings for Detroit RBs: KSmith RB6, Keiland Will RB16, Morris RB59. The numerical rankings is debatable but the order has to be a mistake. Or am I missing something?
That's bizarre. Even if Smith didn't have a HAS, I wouldn't have put him in the top-10.Morris and Williams have been RB40 and RB60 in my league. I can't imagine their situations changing that much in the next 5 weeks.
 
Let's forget fbg's take for now. They're usually pretty good at some point but often a bit late to update things.

In ppr leagues - Maurice Morris or Keiland Williams?

In non ppr leagues - Maurice Morris or Keiland Williams?

Williams seems more likely to get goal line carries.

 
Sounds like bad news here to me. I trust Will Carroll.From Twitter Injury Expert Will Carroll injuryexpert Will CarrollJust confirmed with not one, not two, not three, but five sources. Kevin smith has a high ankle sprain.14 hours ago
Does this Will Carroll treat Kevin Smith? No, so he doesn't know.
 
I've been following this for a while as I owned Morris and now own smith... Seems that Morris will be the back for the next week or two. Smith may be back at that point but to what %?

Williams is lowest priority, given the workload. There's a ton of rookie and dynasty love around here. Like Taiwan or Bilau... I just don't see them getting touches at this point. If you have space to carry them, then it's a good reco. but for players to even consider an immediate start, it's not a good idea. Williams is different in that at least he will get you some PPR and maybe a goal-line love but I'd look at Marion Barber for a higher upside...

If Smith comes back healthy in one or two weeks and plays he should post serious numbers. they have their talent for next year in best and LeShoure - it's not likely smith. He needs to prove his durability and they'll run him into the ground which gives him a chance.

Morris is interesting. He should see this as a chance to ice some starting time. If he runs wild while smith is out he'll stretch his starting time by games or maybe just series' but he's had motivation this whole year... he's a good back but nothing like Kevin Smith.

Morris should be behind Shonn Green and ahead of Starks and par with Beanie next week. If Smith is starting and healthy I think he's a better start than Blount or CJ2FT

Overall I'd see Smith as a top 15 back if he's healthy. He's got some pretty good matchups and that has a lot to do with it.

 
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Why are people on these forums such cynical jerks? I was just trying to relay some worthy info and you have to make a snide comment. Don't you have better things to do today like maybe going out and kicking a little puppy?

Sounds like bad news here to me. I trust Will Carroll.From Twitter Injury Expert Will Carroll injuryexpert Will CarrollJust confirmed with not one, not two, not three, but five sources. Kevin smith has a high ankle sprain.14 hours ago
Does this Will Carroll treat Kevin Smith? No, so he doesn't know.
 
Just wait for the practice reports next week. Sheesh it's not that hard people. If he's active you play him, if he's not then you don't.

 
Not as simple as that for those making FA and playoff roster decisions. While I agree more patience needs be exercised here, this isn't simply a start/sit issue...

 
I've been following this for a while as I owned Morris and now own smith... Seems that Morris will be the back for the next week or two. Smith may be back at that point but to what %?

Williams is lowest priority, given the workload. There's a ton of rookie and dynasty love around here. Like Taiwan or Bilau... I just don't see them getting touches at this point. If you have space to carry them, then it's a good reco. but for players to even consider an immediate start, it's not a good idea. Williams is different in that at least he will get you some PPR and maybe a goal-line love but I'd look at Marion Barber for a higher upside...

If Smith comes back healthy in one or two weeks and plays he should post serious numbers. they have their talent for next year in best and LeShoure - it's not likely smith. He needs to prove his durability and they'll run him into the ground which gives him a chance.

Morris is interesting. He should see this as a chance to ice some starting time. If he runs wild while smith is out he'll stretch his starting time by games or maybe just series' but he's had motivation this whole year... he's a good back but nothing like Kevin Smith.

Morris should be behind Shonn Green and ahead of Starks and par with Beanie next week. If Smith is starting and healthy I think he's a better start than Blount or CJ2FT

Overall I'd see Smith as a top 15 back if he's healthy. He's got some pretty good matchups and that has a lot to do with it.
Not trying to be a jerk here and I understand your point and agree somewhat with what you are saying but the bolded comment just strikes me as a bit silly. Smith is not likely in Detroit's future because he's injury prone but the guy who was just put on IR for multiple concussions and a guy already on IR with a torn achilles are? I don't think we can count anyone out (including a rookie or a FA pick-up in the off-season) as the future of the Lions.

 
I've been following this for a while as I owned Morris and now own smith... Seems that Morris will be the back for the next week or two. Smith may be back at that point but to what %?

Williams is lowest priority, given the workload. There's a ton of rookie and dynasty love around here. Like Taiwan or Bilau... I just don't see them getting touches at this point. If you have space to carry them, then it's a good reco. but for players to even consider an immediate start, it's not a good idea. Williams is different in that at least he will get you some PPR and maybe a goal-line love but I'd look at Marion Barber for a higher upside...

If Smith comes back healthy in one or two weeks and plays he should post serious numbers. they have their talent for next year in best and LeShoure - it's not likely smith. He needs to prove his durability and they'll run him into the ground which gives him a chance.

Morris is interesting. He should see this as a chance to ice some starting time. If he runs wild while smith is out he'll stretch his starting time by games or maybe just series' but he's had motivation this whole year... he's a good back but nothing like Kevin Smith.

Morris should be behind Shonn Green and ahead of Starks and par with Beanie next week. If Smith is starting and healthy I think he's a better start than Blount or CJ2FT

Overall I'd see Smith as a top 15 back if he's healthy. He's got some pretty good matchups and that has a lot to do with it.
Not trying to be a jerk here and I understand your point and agree somewhat with what you are saying but the bolded comment just strikes me as a bit silly. Smith is not likely in Detroit's future because he's injury prone but the guy who was just put on IR for multiple concussions and a guy already on IR with a torn achilles are? I don't think we can count anyone out (including a rookie or a FA pick-up in the off-season) as the future of the Lions.
Guess I was trying to say that, given their RB corps, I expect DET to run with him asap, see if he's durable. Not that he wouldn't be their RB next year...
 
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Why are people on these forums such cynical jerks? I was just trying to relay some worthy info and you have to make a snide comment. Don't you have better things to do today like maybe going out and kicking a little puppy?

Sounds like bad news here to me. I trust Will Carroll.From Twitter Injury Expert Will Carroll injuryexpert Will CarrollJust confirmed with not one, not two, not three, but five sources. Kevin smith has a high ankle sprain.14 hours ago
Does this Will Carroll treat Kevin Smith? No, so he doesn't know.
Not being a cynical jerk. The "injury expert" did not provide any commentary on the injury other than confirming a high ankle sprain, which tells us nothing other than the injury could keep him out roughly anywhere from one week to five weeks. The whole "high ankle sprain" thing is pointless. I get it, they're more severe. But sometimes they're not. So they're just like any other injury. You take it on a case-by-case basis, and see what's going on with that particular player. Next week we'll find out how Smith feels and see if he's even close to practicing. It's been reported as a "mild ankle sprain" also. So it's likely very similar to what Adrian Peterson (Grade 1 ankle sprain) has as far as severity. Considering Peterson was trying to push it and run within 5 days, I'd say Smith at least has an outside chance to play by next week. More than likely, though, he'll miss one game and have a chance to be back the next week. That's how I'm interpreting it as of now anyway. Will Carroll's tweet really adds little to the way I am looking at it though. If you want to take his tweet as "bad news" — whatever that means — go ahead.
 
I've been following this for a while as I owned Morris and now own smith... Seems that Morris will be the back for the next week or two. Smith may be back at that point but to what %?

Williams is lowest priority, given the workload. There's a ton of rookie and dynasty love around here. Like Taiwan or Bilau... I just don't see them getting touches at this point. If you have space to carry them, then it's a good reco. but for players to even consider an immediate start, it's not a good idea. Williams is different in that at least he will get you some PPR and maybe a goal-line love but I'd look at Marion Barber for a higher upside...

If Smith comes back healthy in one or two weeks and plays he should post serious numbers. they have their talent for next year in best and LeShoure - it's not likely smith. He needs to prove his durability and they'll run him into the ground which gives him a chance.

Morris is interesting. He should see this as a chance to ice some starting time. If he runs wild while smith is out he'll stretch his starting time by games or maybe just series' but he's had motivation this whole year... he's a good back but nothing like Kevin Smith.

Morris should be behind Shonn Green and ahead of Starks and par with Beanie next week. If Smith is starting and healthy I think he's a better start than Blount or CJ2FT

Overall I'd see Smith as a top 15 back if he's healthy. He's got some pretty good matchups and that has a lot to do with it.
Not trying to be a jerk here and I understand your point and agree somewhat with what you are saying but the bolded comment just strikes me as a bit silly. Smith is not likely in Detroit's future because he's injury prone but the guy who was just put on IR for multiple concussions and a guy already on IR with a torn achilles are? I don't think we can count anyone out (including a rookie or a FA pick-up in the off-season) as the future of the Lions.
Exactly my point......Smith is not playing for Detroit"s future, he's playing for Kevin Smith's future....I would still start Blount on a week-2-week basis.
 
I've been following this for a while as I owned Morris and now own smith... Seems that Morris will be the back for the next week or two. Smith may be back at that point but to what %?

Williams is lowest priority, given the workload. There's a ton of rookie and dynasty love around here. Like Taiwan or Bilau... I just don't see them getting touches at this point. If you have space to carry them, then it's a good reco. but for players to even consider an immediate start, it's not a good idea. Williams is different in that at least he will get you some PPR and maybe a goal-line love but I'd look at Marion Barber for a higher upside...

If Smith comes back healthy in one or two weeks and plays he should post serious numbers. they have their talent for next year in best and LeShoure - it's not likely smith. He needs to prove his durability and they'll run him into the ground which gives him a chance.

Morris is interesting. He should see this as a chance to ice some starting time. If he runs wild while smith is out he'll stretch his starting time by games or maybe just series' but he's had motivation this whole year... he's a good back but nothing like Kevin Smith.

Morris should be behind Shonn Green and ahead of Starks and par with Beanie next week. If Smith is starting and healthy I think he's a better start than Blount or CJ2FT

Overall I'd see Smith as a top 15 back if he's healthy. He's got some pretty good matchups and that has a lot to do with it.
Not trying to be a jerk here and I understand your point and agree somewhat with what you are saying but the bolded comment just strikes me as a bit silly. Smith is not likely in Detroit's future because he's injury prone but the guy who was just put on IR for multiple concussions and a guy already on IR with a torn achilles are? I don't think we can count anyone out (including a rookie or a FA pick-up in the off-season) as the future of the Lions.
Exactly my point......Smith is not playing for Detroit"s future, he's playing for Kevin Smith's future....I would still start Blount on a week-2-week basis.
I would counter by saying Smith's future is best served by showing he can bounce back fast and more importantly, wants to bounce back, from this injury.
 
According to Dave Birkett on Twitter (Lions beat writer for Detroit Free Press), "Kevin Smith has a helmet at Lions practice today..." It sounds like he is either giving it a go in practice today, or that he got a sweet new helmet. I don't know what that means as to playing time this week, but it heightens the chances that it really was only a mild sprain. Just passing it along.

 
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Seems strange that a mild sprain would keep him out of a huge Thanksgiving Day game, but I'm hoping that he returns. In that one quarter of action last week, he netted me 8.7 points. He was in line for a second straight monster day.

I want him back against the Saints Sunday night, but I can handle it if the Lions decide to rest him. Would be great to have him ready to roll again for the fantasy playoffs.

 
Seems strange that a mild sprain would keep him out of a huge Thanksgiving Day game, but I'm hoping that he returns. In that one quarter of action last week, he netted me 8.7 points. He was in line for a second straight monster day.I want him back against the Saints Sunday night, but I can handle it if the Lions decide to rest him. Would be great to have him ready to roll again for the fantasy playoffs.
Strange? Have you ever sprained an ankle and then tried to run full speed, changing directions. Give the guy a break.
 
Well, it looks like he is " very limited" and "looks uncomfortable" according to Chris McCosky (The Detroit News). Birkett further tweeter that he "left practice after stretching." a few other retweets said he is working with trainers on the sidelines. Doesn't look great, but maybe he'll get into practice later this week.

 
Strange? Have you ever sprained an ankle and then tried to run full speed, changing directions. Give the guy a break.
I didn't mean it was strange that a sprained ankle took him out of the game. I meant that it probably wasn't "mild" as first described. Give ME a break.
 
Ok, one last tidbit I came across. It's from Kevin Smith, so it may just be a player being optimistic.

Detroit Lions RB Kevin Smith (ankle) is optimistic about his chances of playing against the New Orleans Saints in Week 13. "I feel pretty good for a Wednesday," Smith said. "After you guys (media) left, I got to do some stuff. I feel pretty good for a Wednesday. At this pace, I'm excited. I'm just rehabbing the heck out of it and just keep progressing. Still got a long way till game day." RB Maurice Morris will be the lead back if Smith can't play.

So it looks like he did practice a bit after the media portion of practice. Even if he doesn't go this week it bodes well for a healthy return week 14.

 
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?

Ok, one last tidbit I came across. It's from Kevin Smith, so it may just be a player being optimistic. Detroit Lions RB Kevin Smith (ankle) is optimistic about his chances of playing against the New Orleans Saints in Week 13. "I feel pretty good for a Wednesday," Smith said. "After you guys (media) left, I got to do some stuff. I feel pretty good for a Wednesday. At this pace, I'm excited. I'm just rehabbing the heck out of it and just keep progressing. Still got a long way till game day." RB Maurice Morris will be the lead back if Smith can't play.So it looks like he did practice a bit after the media portion of practice. Even if he doesn't go this week it bodes well for a healthy return week 14.
 
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?
:thumbup:
I tend to disagree with this line of thinking because I have to win this week or I miss the playoffs and I could REALLY use a healthy KSmith in my Flex... That said, I think even if he plays this week that Mo-Mo still gets the start. Can't see him getting healthy enough for a full load, so I'd lean towards just resting him and making sure he's good to go for weeks 14-16.
 
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?

Ok, one last tidbit I came across. It's from Kevin Smith, so it may just be a player being optimistic. Detroit Lions RB Kevin Smith (ankle) is optimistic about his chances of playing against the New Orleans Saints in Week 13. "I feel pretty good for a Wednesday," Smith said. "After you guys (media) left, I got to do some stuff. I feel pretty good for a Wednesday. At this pace, I'm excited. I'm just rehabbing the heck out of it and just keep progressing. Still got a long way till game day." RB Maurice Morris will be the lead back if Smith can't play.So it looks like he did practice a bit after the media portion of practice. Even if he doesn't go this week it bodes well for a healthy return week 14.
I'd much rather have him play this week and show he's healthy. It's never good to start a player his first game back after a multi-week injury.
 
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?
:thumbup:
I tend to disagree with this line of thinking because I have to win this week or I miss the playoffs and I could REALLY use a healthy KSmith in my Flex... That said, I think even if he plays this week that Mo-Mo still gets the start. Can't see him getting healthy enough for a full load, so I'd lean towards just resting him and making sure he's good to go for weeks 14-16.
I'm not sure if the Lions would agree facing a top offence and looking up at a wildcard spot.
 
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Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?
Kevin, please play this week and do what you did two weeks ago.
 
Always liked K-Slice. Unfortunately it seems he's made of glass. He comes back in possibly the best health of his life and in a little over 5 quarters he suffers another injury that cost him a little less that a game and 3 quarters, and maybe more. most FF playoffs are 3 games (weeks 14, 15 & 16), So can he stay healthy for 3 full straight games? I'm pessimistic. :shrug:

 
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'ScottyDog said:
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?
:thumbup:
:goodposting:
X3... A healthy Kevin Smith could spell championship...DET has a great playoff schedule
It's foolish to want him to sit out this week regardless of whether you need this week or not. If he sits out this week then it means it's a serious ankle injury and playing him week 14 would be a risk you shouldn't take in the playoffs. If he plays this week, you can see if he's healthy and be much more comfortable starting in the fantasy playoffs. Either way, him not playing this week can only be bad for your fantasy team.
 
'phillybirds said:
'ScottyDog said:
Kevin, please take this week off...maybe just stay home and play some Madden. Come back week 14, ok? Is that cool?
:thumbup:
:goodposting:
X3... A healthy Kevin Smith could spell championship...DET has a great playoff schedule
It's foolish to want him to sit out this week regardless of whether you need this week or not. If he sits out this week then it means it's a serious ankle injury and playing him week 14 would be a risk you shouldn't take in the playoffs. If he plays this week, you can see if he's healthy and be much more comfortable starting in the fantasy playoffs. Either way, him not playing this week can only be bad for your fantasy team.
I'm with this guy. I think it's better for him to play than not as long as doesn't do more damage.
 
From rotoworld

Kevin Smith (ankle) was participating in Lions practice Thursday.

Smith will likely end up as a "limited" participant, but he's trending in the right direction. Per beat writer Dave Birkett, Smith ran a cone and bag drill Thursday "without issue" and it "looks like he'll be a go barring a tweak." At this point, it's obvious Smith's Thanksgiving ankle sprain was of the mild variety. He was the No. 1 back in position drills today. Dec 1 - 11:54 AM

Source: Dave Birkett on Twitter

 
From rotoworld

Kevin Smith (ankle) was participating in Lions practice Thursday.

Smith will likely end up as a "limited" participant, but he's trending in the right direction. Per beat writer Dave Birkett, Smith ran a cone and bag drill Thursday "without issue" and it "looks like he'll be a go barring a tweak." At this point, it's obvious Smith's Thanksgiving ankle sprain was of the mild variety. He was the No. 1 back in position drills today. Dec 1 - 11:54 AM

Source: Dave Birkett on Twitter
:thumbup:

Lions' running back Kevin Smith practices today, taking step toward returning from ankle injury

By Dave Birkett

Detroit Lions running back Kevin Smith took a big step towards returning from his high ankle sprain for Sunday's game against the New Orleans Saints, practicing today and working first in the backfield rotation.

Smith, who injured his right ankle in the Lions' Thanksgiving loss to the Green Bay Packers, went through individual drills in front of reporters without issue. He's not 100 %, but was able to move crisply and cut through a cone and bag drill.
 
I'm glad that he's getting better, but I would prefer if he just sat this week and would come back strong for the last few weeks

 
Rotoworld...

"Kevin Smith (ankle) was a full participant in his return to practice Thursday.

"Every day it's getting better so at this pace I'm excited," Smith said. "... I was able to practice the full practice. I feel good, it's still an ankle sprain, but it's football." Smith is taking the first-team reps, so the Lions obviously believe he's on track to play against the Saints. If he puts in another full practice on Friday, there's RB2 value here in an enticing matchup."

 
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