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Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash - TMZ (2 Viewers)

-fish- said:
Fake.  Idiots trying to profit off old video of a crash in the UAE.
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That’s certainly a possibility. The story behind the video that i saw is that the helicopter went down basically in the backyard of a friend of one of the girls that I work with, and either he or one of his neighbors filmed it. However, I have no way of knowing if that’s legit or not.

At the end of the day, whether it was this crash or another, people died, and I wish I hadn’t seen that. I don’t even like the “kids get hurt” thread.

ETA- You’re right. It’s the UAE crash.

 
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The Camila Cabello performance on the Grammy's really got the water works flowing in my household.  It wasn't dedicated to Kobe or anything but really was a punch in the gut.  Worth seeking out.  Was a hell of a moment.

 
Tecumseh said:
The story behind the video that i saw is that the helicopter went down basically in the backyard of a friend of one of the girls that I work with, and either he or one of his neighbors filmed it.
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I doubt this.  The sheriff said that responders had to go off-road to reach the crash site.

 
GROOT said:
https://twitter.com/doglooo/status/1221575001389682690

OOF
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I dont wanna get a banning so ill take it easy but that guy is a awful person. I saw him 20+ years ago at a comedy show and he was awful. His entire act was just a stream of racist jokes, dropping the N word all night long. Never liked him.

Im all for dark, subversive humor but this is just an attention grab and classless thing to do. I mean, if it was funny that would be one thing and I would have laughed even though Im a Kobe fan but it simply wasn't funny. 

This will give you some insight on what a awful human he is.... The Time Ari Spiked Bert's Drink with Molly | JRE Sober October 2019

 
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Apple Jack said:
Had the same thought. Lose visibility, call to clear room above you and climb until you can see.

And for those saying planes are safer with an engine failure, that's not true. Helicopters are made to be able to land in an engine failure. You never hear of them just dropping out of the air.
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I don’t know why they crash, but it sure seems like helicopters do so more often than planes. Living in Hawaii, I can remember multiple helicopter crashes in the last decade, but only one plane. I always tell visitors to skip the heli-tours.

 
Following twitter and the video of him and his daughter at a game where he’s explaining the play and they’re both smiling is so heartbreaking. And there’s  another video of the two of them playing basketball where you can see how proud he is. And the fact that both were on that helicopter is ao guy wrenching. Just so friggin sad

 
Terminalxylem said:
I don’t know why they crash, but it sure seems like helicopters do so more often than planes. Living in Hawaii, I can remember multiple helicopter crashes in the last decade, but only one plane. I always tell visitors to skip the heli-tours.
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Part of this is confirmation bias, but planes are generally safer.  Part of the problem here is the lack of statistics about helicopter flights.  This article has some good info.

 
Heartfelt condolences to the families of all the passengers on board.  Especially tough to think of the players (GG and her friend) and the other children who perished.  Lots of tributes for Kobe, and rightly so... but those children won't get a chance to achieve their dreams in life.  Such a tragic day for all involved.  RIP

 
ghostguy123 said:
Sounds like a combination of poor decisions and bad luck with just how bad it got.  We have all made poor and/or reckless decisions, but when mixed with bad luck stuff like this happens.  
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I don't know the first thing about helicopter flight plans, but whomever cleared them for VFR needs to go under the microscope.  If that is pilot's discretion in a helicopter, then so be it.  Very avoidable tragedy.  

 
I wasn't a huge Kobe fan (or Laker fan for that matter) during his run but I love his work ethic.  He was relentless in his pursuit of greatness.   The stories of how he worked out and prepared his body to be able to play his way, all-out on both ends of the floor, were captivating.  I was a Hornet fan when he was drafted and was sad to see him traded away but I'm happy for him that he was able to carve out the HOF career he envisioned.  I wonder what type of legacy he would have left with Charlotte had he stayed.  But I digress.  

Always pulled hard for him during his Olympic years, though.  Kobe was an assassin.  RIP Mamba.  Unanimous HOF. 

 
And now his family is going to have to deal with an abundance of lawsuits.  Guaranteed that will happen.  Not saying those families shouldnt sue (cause they should), but that's really gonna add insult to injury for the wife and the rest of the family.

 
Mile High said:
 Until we know all the facts it's hard to say for sure and I'm no expert for sure. Seems like weather played a part in the crash.  Sometimes it's just better to punt. 
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We have ATC tracks and an eye witness(es) that lines up.  There's no real thought that there was a mechanical.  Guy got lost and went into a mountain in the fog.  

The only real question is who gave the special vfr clearance, or if that's just something you can take as a helicopter.

 
ghostguy123 said:
And now his family is going to have to deal with an abundance of lawsuits.  Guaranteed that will happen.  Not saying those families shouldnt sue (cause they should), but that's really gonna add insult to injury for the wife and the rest of the family.
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You are saying Kobe’s family will be sued??

 
ghostguy123 said:
And now his family is going to have to deal with an abundance of lawsuits.  Guaranteed that will happen.  Not saying those families shouldnt sue (cause they should), but that's really gonna add insult to injury for the wife and the rest of the family.
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why?  He made them get on the helicopter?

 
culdeus said:
We have ATC tracks and an eye witness(es) that lines up.  There's no real thought that there was a mechanical.  Guy got lost and went into a mountain in the fog.  

The only real question is who gave the special vfr clearance, or if that's just something you can take as a helicopter.
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My nephew said spatial disorientation is one of the worst things that can happen up there.  Very scary and the passengers would likely know something was wrong. 

 
culdeus said:
This been posted?  Seems a real clear account. 

https://youtu.be/28QYy8lrww8
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This, combined with flight communications and radar seems to relate to decisions on VFR/IFR and trying to a avoid the nearby airports’ traffic, resulting flying into the mountain at 150 knots. There doesn’t seem to be any reports of engine trouble except for how low they were flying.

 
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Capella said:
I am pretty familiar with how lawsuits work man.  Nobody is suing the man who didn’t own the plane and didn’t crash it. He has no liability. 
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I have heard he owned it and/or was flying it.  If neither is true then yeah, obviously no lawsuits.

If he paid for the rental ride and someone else was flying, then of course he isnt liable.  I hope that's the case for his family's sake.

 
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